Ash of War: Poison Moth Flight | Elden Ring Wiki

The description of this ash is misleading, it's a single-strike attack that poisons the target. If you hit an already-poisoned enemy with the attack, it deals higher damage.

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Gets screwed over big time by phantom hits in pvp. still clears the poison, but does no damage

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seems to occasionally double hit for big damage, i have no idea what causes it

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as long as it can get eaten by rolls its trash for pvp, don't bother unless you're fighting an overencumbered player

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i just wanna put this on the flamberge :(

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this needs a serious buff, such a cool ash and mechanic, but without lots of hyperarmor and a major animation speed boost, its worthless still :S

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was anyone else afk in caelid and just got this randomly

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The fact that this doesn’t have a built in follow up has to be an oversight. The description literally mentions a follow up strike and the thumbnail has 2 obvious slashes with a poison effect. Either it’s been overlooked or the follow up strike was removed for balance purposes before release. Considering how broken rivers and moonveil was on release im more leaning towards oversight.

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Why my man cheeked up in the icon tho

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turns a poison build into a bleed build, actually incredible weapon art.

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This ash of war badly needs hyper armor to work. It's so close to being awesome, but without that hyper armor it's just not viable.

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Why can chilling mist be used on UGS but not Poison Moth Flight?

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I started the game (at the dragon cathedral of dragon communion site of grace. . . And went ADHD and started shopping succulents and planters on Etsy. I would say, sadly, I lost a half hour to an hour to that void and what took me out of it was the all caps notification: ENEMY FELLED. 8kish runes popped up and this ash of war. So. . . Something killed the knight's calvary (the nearby death bird?). . . But either way,extremely long winded and lazy way to get the ash of war.

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Great option for PvE, however it suffers in PvP because its generally kinda slow and leaves you exposed.

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This ash slaps. People need to consider this is a bleed pro on command whenever your opponent is poisoned

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this ash is really mismatched to the weapon classes allowed for it IMO, in its current state (ie: no hyperarmour at all, deals very little poise damage), it would be much more useful (read: actually worth using) on heavy thrusting swords, greatswords, harlberds, reapers - ie: weapons that already have decent poise damage and limited status AOWs.

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Had to look this up because if you idle at Caelid Catacombs grace this boss just kills himself after a while.

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I think giving it more dash travel distance, a little bit less than piercing fang, would really make this viable

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I didn't know a AoW this cool exists. It like it turns the poison into a bleed proc. Too bad the burst doesn't proc rot talisman.

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Honestly, Poison Moth Flight still needs a bit of a buff for it to make it half-way decent.
I feel like giving the ash some hyper armor and making a little faster would probably do the trick, as the two biggest problems is it's lack of any hyper armor and slow speed.

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I was sitting at the Caelid Catacombs bonfire, went to make a sandwich, came back and I had gotten this ash. The Night's Cavalry that drops this isn't too far from this little dungeon, though I have no idea how he would have died.

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Says at the bottom it can apply poison in two ways, either from the mist or the blade itself landing a hit. But I put this on a warhawk talon a little while ago and there was no mist like you see with the 'poison mist' AoW. I only used it a short while but it only ever coated the blade with poison then did a forward lunging attack.

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For all you out there doing some low-mid level co op this ash is very underrated. I put it on serpent god sword, and have that offnand. If you’re making a low level like RL21 weapons +5/2, youll want to make use of this as well as frost/cold and bleed. I build up characters naturally with no droping items for me, you can get four talisman slots and the best talismans for a low level character pretty easily as well as the flasks and physics. When making a low level character build for pvp matchmaking when fighting the later game pve it is necessary to use everything poison,bleed,frost even with base arcane of 7. Use pots, get the good ones, and use this ash.

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The fact it cannot be placed on Greatswords is a bit of a bummer. FFOM was likely concerned the burst damage would be too high.

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It's such a shame this can't be used on more weapon types.

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Someone asked the same on 5th October with no replies but I tried this for the first time and have the exact same question. What is the follow up attack? Because if the description means the forward momentum and the left to right downward slash immediately after the blade is coated with the poison to be the follow up attack it's a poor choice of words.
In the context of every other AoW "follow up attack" means that particular weapon art has more than one attack available if needed like the queen's black flame on godslayer's or cursed-blood slice on Morgott's cursed sword, but when you cast poison moth there is no follow up attack with neither light or heavy attack.

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I've been testing this ash of war against the big dragon in dragonbarrows and these are my findings (It might not be 100% accurate but it is what I had observed):

1) If you apply poison with the ash of war itself (not a regular attack) it actually applies deadly poison with 30 seconds duration instead of the base poison with 90 seconds.
2) The ash of war has quite high poison buildup. It seems to be about 4 times the weapon's poison build up. This makes it easy to apply the deadly poison.
3) The poison burst's damage consists of percentage damage and flat damage. The percentage damage seems to be about 5.7% max hp (which corresponds to maximum hp damage dealt by regular poison applied for 90% of its duration). The flat damage doesn't seem to be based on the poison's flat damage and is more likely based on the weapon's damage instead.
4) Damage of the burst is the same for both regular poison and deadly poison. I haven't tried the poison perfume but I assume it will be the same as well.
5) Damage of the burst does not depend on the remaining poison duration. Whether you proc the burst immediately after poison is applied or when only 1 second remains before poison expires, the burst damage is the same.

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PvE: Decent range. Easily poisons common enemies in 1 hit and can be immediately used again to proc the burst damage.

PvP: Activation time is too long and the attack lunge speed is slower than Bloody Slash and Draw ashes, so opponent's often are able to dodge it due to its massive telegraphing. Because it can only be used on small/medium weapons, this ash has no hyper armor making it easy to get hit out of the attack, and trading is not worth it unless the target is already poisoned.

Decent ash for the game, but I find it often under performs compared to other ashes in PvP.

Small personal nitpick, but the animation for this ash doesn't fit the grand name of the attack. Would've been faster & flashier if they instead had the player leap a medium distance towards the enemy while simultaneously infusing poison midair, and then slashing horizontally or diagonally at the end. Unlike Lion's Claw which is a vertical cut aimed to knockdown enemies and deal heavy poise break, this idea would still focus on applying a cut over a larger area to increase the chance of hitting the opponent to inflict poison or proc the burst damage.

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Received a buff in Patch 1.07


Poison Moth Flight

Increased poison status buildup and its power against poisoned enemies.
Increased the duration and damage of poison.
Reduced the delay between the end of various actions (such as using items or attack animations) and being able to perform the skill.

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didnt know this existed

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Whats the follow up input? A heavy attack, of addition LB? Can’t figure it out

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Fun to use SPECIFICALLY on a Poison Antspur. Since the poison will scale with upgrades and arcane, but the rot will not, you can apply poison, moth it off for a big chunk of damage, and reapply it in time for the rot to kick in.

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Had to look this one up because I was standing in the Caelid Catacombs and randomly got this ash. Not sure if I aggroed him and he ran off a cliff or something /shrug

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Apparently the Nagakiba is a "small sword," you learn something new every day!

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Unbelievably troll that this can't be put on the serpent claws

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fun ash, but you better have a million poise or you're gonna have a hard time landing it

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Ok so ive been doing some minimal testing with this and trying to do some kind of poison build. I dont have exact numbers or anything like that but i can give a honest opinion on this ash.

Its not supposed to be used in its own, for example a good build ive found for this is powerstanced double poison uchi, one with PMF one with seppuku. With high arcane levels and proper buffs you can reliably apply poison to most bosses in a few hits, at 70 arc uchi has around 133 poison build each. I can poison Godfrey in about 4-5 power stances hits. After about 4-5 hits with a seppu buffed uchi most enemies have bled at least once for a 10% or 7% chunk and some bleed after the first hit depending if its a boss, and will still have poison applied which helps keep the pressure on your terget, allows you time to step away and heal while still chipping away...then you can use PMF for an additional HP based chunk,around 5-10%, unaffected by the rising resistance to your bleed attacks after several hemorrhage procs. If you use this properly you can consistently remove 10% to at most around 20% of an enemies health bar in a matter of a seconds. The biggest thing ive found useful about this ash is it allows you to keep chunking bosses with different statuses and bypass the fact the resistance rises after each trigger, because you You can literally kill almost anything in the game with this set up properly in a very short amount of time. Its not a "bleed"build with extra steps its a bleed build with bonus damage in essence...ive tried with a occult uchi and a poison one and it did more raw damage but the status procs were less. The small amount of damage you give up in scaling is worth the procs. Im sure theres a better setup for this but this has worked for me and maybe someone else can take this and run with it for a fun build thats not so vanilla.

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If you want something unique from the strictly bleed builds this is your guy. Its not insanely powerful on its own but if you use this on something with innate bleed build you can stack hemorrhage+PMF's burst strike for like a 15%-20% chunk of hp on meaty bosses. I feel like this was kinda designed to use as auxiliary with bleed procs.. on its own PMF is very underwhelming but if you know your targets resistances to bleed etc you can time the PMF strike with bleed and absolutely wreck. It takes some skill and patience but its fun. It WILL get you killed alot because of how tricky it is....and its useless in PVP unless youre god tier strategist.but like i said its different, its fun, and it looks cool when the green bubble pops. Dont knock it before you try it.
6/10 for functionality
10/10 for a fun challenge

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If you use this on something with innate bleed build up you can proc bleed and the poison burst simultaneously
for huge damage, like 9k+ with all buffs. Its hard to get both to trigger at the same time but if they do its beautiful to see a red-green burst and a huge chunk of hp melt away

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So they conceptualized a balanced version of bleed but then put it in as an inferior skill instead of a mechanic. Makes sense.

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Did testing on the big dragon in Caelid. It seems to do about 75% of the TOTAL damage the poisons proc would of done + some damage based on the weapon's AR. I focus on total, since I would let the poison go on for about 50 sec (right before it would end) and it would still do the 75% damage on top of what it already did from poison.

Testing with a level 35 character with a +4 poisoned short sword and 20 arcane:
-About 4.8K if I use it right after I proc poison
-If I let the poison run its course without using the skill, total poison does about 6.4k damage
-if I wait about 50 sec (the poisons damage reaching about 5.8k), the total damage was just over 10k damage! (4,8k + 5.8k)
-testing with deadly poison (with poop jars), and the damage was the same. This is most likely due to deadly poison doing 2x damage but is 1/2 the duration, so the total damage is the same

This CAN do some serious DPS in PvE situations in boss fights or large health poop enemies since its mostly based on a % of the target's HP, but its clunkiness is its main downfall.

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Testing it against one of the trolls, my little Antspur deals 547 when the troll is unpoisoned, and about double (a hair over 1k) when the troll was poisoned which also ends the poison effect -- a poison-infuse does not increase the damage, in fact it was reduced to a little over 800 from Keen, so it's scaling off pure AR. Such a strange Ash of War -- inflicts poison, but also ends the poison effect, and claims to have a "followup strike" which is not activated by R1, R2, or additional L2 presses. I even tried to make sure the 'follow up strike' wasn't something that was tied to the ability actually hitting, but no luck, it's really just a single-strike. I suppose as a niche use, it lets you proc and reproc Kindred of Rot Exultation by allowing you to reapply poisons, but at that point you're just a bleed build with extra steps.

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Here's the build I'm using right now with this Aow, experimental, but surprisingly good. But this one is a rare-used tool.


2 twinblades, RH - bleed with poison mist, LH - frostbite.
RH second weapon - antspur rapier with Poison Moth Flight.
Kindred of Rot talisman.


Start with poison mist, it often staggers, so you have an openning and proc posion (+20% dmg) at once.
Jump attack - procs bleed and frostbite (+20% dmg) with 1-2 such attacks. And poison, since the RH weapon is still infused with poison after mist.


Then switch to rapier and use Moth (need a good timing and positioning). Moth also often providers stagger and an opening, during which you can continue with rapier r1 attacks to proc scarlett rot, triggering the talisman again.


If that's not enough, take dragon seal and cast some madness incantations, so the enemy could gloriously suffer from 5 different statuses during 10-15 seconds at once.

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All it would need is for the burst damage to scale with Arcane, and suddenly poison builds might be viable.

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I am pretty sure I found the original animation intended for this and it's absolutely hilarious. The frost fire flying bird attack from the reanimating skeletons outside the capital (in between the fake Morgot who jumps you on the open battlefield and the warped dragon tree sentinel who guards the entrance).

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I wonder what is the lore of this ash of war - it has very intresting name

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Is the burst a percentage of enemy max HP, or based on your weapon AR?

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This needs to be heavily buffed, otherwise you are better off using unsheathe, bloody slash or whatever.

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I ported into Cathedral of Dragon Communion and after about 30 seconds the Night's Cavalry somehow died on its own and I got the ash....

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I find it hilarious that both weapons that get Deadly Poison can't use this for two different reasons. This would work pretty well with Deadly Poison and the Crown and/or Talisman. But the way this works now you have to have a dedicated second weapon just to use this which is impractical especially in PVE.

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for anyone else who struggled with the cavalry, it seems the AI can be broken. there is a branch you can climb with torrent just behind the nomadic merchant leading toward the castle. attacking the cavalry from here can cause him to respawn on the highway and become passive. the cavalry is invulnerable here but killing the horse causes him to fall off, allowing for a visceral attack and causing him to continually respawn falling from the air. he can be damaged while spawning in and this can be repeated to finish him off

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Was this finished? There's nothing mothlike, no flight, and it ends the poison condition more often than it causes it. It's like someone had a cool idea for a poison AoE attack where you fwoosh over the enemy, leaving a trail of poison in your wake.

But they didn't have time to do any of that so it's a sword slash but green and it does damage sometimes.

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Just started an arcane build and got this. Well.. It's a bit underwhelming. Just looking at the picture made me hope for it to hit at least two times buuuut no... It's a single hit with pretty long wind up.. I hope we can get better poison ashes in a dlc or something... There will be dlc, right? Right? :x

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Can be OK but requires very specific conditions - it appears chiefly to be a bossing tool for dedicated poison builds:

You need a reliable method of quickly poisoning to get any use from this.
The long windup means it can only punish boss/enemy attacks when safety is guaranteed.
Proccing the effect removes the poison status from an enemy and deals a percent HP chunk, notably allowing you to poison them again to proc the Kindred of Rot talisman and Mushroom crown damage buffs multiple times throughout an encounter.
The damage appears to be 5% enemy max HP, so it's not useful against regular enemies for damage but can chunk bosses a little.
The description mentions a "follow-up strike" but in my experience just landing the Ash of War attack is all that is needed. I think they poorly translated it and are just referring to the 'follow-up' strike that happens after the short dash when using the skill.

So, it's situational but not entirely useless for dedicated poisoners using the poison proc items.

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i feel like for its speed it should have some sort of extended range like bloody slash but shorter

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they really gotta completely revamp this ash. poison is already the worst status effect and "poison moth flight" is way too badass of a name for this underwhelming ash. it doesnt even have to be good, i just want it to be something super flashy at the very least

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What follow up slash? Theres only one!

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Even with the attack speed and lunge distance buffs, the damage just isn't worth using this skill. Like just apply poison and use pretty much any other damage skill for better results.

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Damage is partially from weapon damage and ignores the type of poison (deadly vs normal) and whether or not the weapon with the ash of war has poison on it. Tested on the small dragons near Dragonbarrow West with a +0 Mantis Blade, with poison from an infused weapon and a venomous fang. Standard infusion was used for the higher AR of 135, poison infusion for the lower AR of 114 and 67 poison buildup

AR 135 vs unpoisoned dragon - 59 damage - 4 to 5 successive hits to poison
AR 114 (67 PSN) vs unpoisoned dragon - 44 damage - 4 to 5 successive hits to poison

AR 135 vs poisoned target - 499 damage - same for deadly poison
AR 114 (67 PSN) vs poisoned target - 484 damage - same for deadly poison

All tests were without any spells or effects - with kindred of rot exultation and mushroom crown damage would be higher since you can do this attack right after poison kicks in.

For comparison,
Bleed (58 buildup) - 1122 damage
Frostbite (66 buildup) - 712 damage

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If I understand correctly how this works, it compiles the DoT left on target and applies it all at once and removes the poison status?

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despite not being as gud as bleed, i think the burst of damage from this can be useful against bosses that cant be bled but can be poisoned (Erdtree Avatars, Astel for example). Its like a discount bleed made for unbleedable enemies

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I wonder if this is stronger with deadly poison from The 2 poison weapons in the game. Funny enough neither of them can equip this art

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After some testing, it seems the damage is about the same as frostbite, but the fact your losing an ash of war for occasional damage proc thats already beaten out by both bleed and frostbite means theres no real reason to use this no matter how much I want to, needs a buff badly to even be remotely useful in PVE or PVP

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Doesn't look like this can be used with twinblades anymore.

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You can use this with the talisman Kindred of Rot Exultation to keep the bonus damage from the talisman active since this Ash of war takes out the poison when you use it so you can re-apply the poison again in rapid succession

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That ghetto booty needs a major nerf GODDAMN

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If you put poison shield charge on spiked palisade, with blood loss and poison talismans, and use a nagakiba , you can proc both off one charge and poison moth will basically be like a second mini blood loss. Then you can refresh the poison. Pretty good just not nearly as OP as some weapons.

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0-0 Dat ass look at the picture got damn boy

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buddy got his little dumptruck out in the icon

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It got buffed a little bit on today's patch but it still sucks.

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Tested this as of patch 1.04, the cast speed on this is vastly improved, still a tiny bit on the slow side, but it's manageable.

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Ok since it seems not many people dig this ash and haven't done much testing (that has been posted here at least) I figured I'd put my findings here.

First thing to note - It doesn't have to be the ash itself that causes mobs to be poisoned in order for the ash of war to do extra damage. It does the extra damage as long as they are poisoned with regular or deadly poison. Does not proc the extra damage from rot, nor does it remove the rot status effect.

How it seems to work is when hitting a poisoned enemy with the ash, you'll see a bleed-like (definitely not as much as bleed obviously) burst of damage and a green explosion similar to the red one for bleed proc. and removes the poison status from the mob, requiring you to poison them again. This works very well with poison pots as you can poison mobs from a distance and the poison lasts longer. Also works great with rot even though it doesn't proc the damage, its free extra DoT, and if you're using this ash you're probably doing a status effect/poison/DoT build anyway so why not.

Despite what people have said about it being very weak, when I used it (+5 Lordsworns straight sword) against tree sentinel it would do about 400 damage on the extra damage hit. Regular R1's were doing about 120, so it's not bad at all. Granted it's not a LOT of damage, but it was chunking Tree Sentinel at First Steps, level 30 with 16 Str/Dex and 10 Arcane (if Arcane matters in this situation). It's not bleed obviously, but if you're tired of bleed and want something different, this is definitely worth checking out.

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Too slow, Small Range, Predictable, easy punishable, i love poison builds but this sucks, if it at leas dealt more damage or have more range

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Poison moth flight just got a speed and recovery buff!

go little rockstar

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Let the poison tick for a minute or so? proc with this then reapply and repeat = big damage??

I'm assuming the Poison proc does not have anything to do with the remaining duration of poison

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Useful if you want to re-apply poison every 20 seconds to keep the Kindred of Rot's Exultation buff active, I guess. Disappointing damage and can only go on swords makes it a hard sell

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I hate to say it but I think this is working as intended and is just weak. I submitted a ticket to BandaiNamco regarding the discrepancy in the icon and description vs the (very weak) single slash and this is what I got back "the Poison Moth Flight will properly work if you have slashed the enemy a second time. This will ensure that the poison inflicted will deal significant damage."

Sad day

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This ash does not appear to applie poison instantly, instead it just does around 5% of enemies maxHP in additon to the hit itself if the enemie was poisoned. It will cancel the poison so its best to use it at the end of poison duration. This weapon art is just not worth it as normal poison would run 630 + 6,3% maxHP damage on its own. Basicly you will use poison as an extremly weak manual bleed proc.

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I've been testing this ash for so long and it always seems so terrible. I discovered that it actually does proc the tic damage over time as instant damage on Greyoll in Caelid. Letting it tick on her does about 6000 damage whiles proccing the poison with poison moth flight does 5000. Greyoll is considered a boss.

On a Limgrave soldier the poison tick damage would kill him flat out. But the ash of war attack would only do 250 dmg. Normal enemy, tested with un-upgraded dagger

Driving me insane. it's so close to being good but wtf is this inconsistency?! is it bugged???

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Poison proc attack boost gear in normal poison proccing environment: unviable, underwhelming.

Poison proc attack boost gear with poison moth flight (the only real reason I see for this war to exist at all): Becomes a super duper niche way to play the game. Can't at all compete with bleed and other meta things but at the same time isn't a complete waste of time only salvageable with roleplaying in mind (like death sorcery). Patience and a drive to be unique is required to make this work.

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the ash of war attacks once, if it hits an already poisoned enemy it removes the poison and deals double the damage

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the ash of war attacks once, if it hits an already poisoned enemy it removes the poison and deals double the damage

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Poison Moth Flight sounds like a lot of amazing things in what is actually a confusing package. From the description and image alone it implies that you'll be doing a special poison attack that swings twice (or perhaps like arts such a sword dance, you can follow up with) and on the second attack, hurts a lot more if the enemy is poisoned.
This is not the case.

You in fact do a single swing that will apply poison if the enemy is not poisoned OR remove the poison status effect and do extra damage on that hit.
The windup to this attack is fairly long. So long in fact you can parry an enemy, start this attack and it'll be up and recovered to stagger you before you even have a chance to swing.

between the two poison based ashes of war Poisonous mist would be the pick. Otherwise just go bleed.

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"Poison Moth Flight: Slash with a poison-infused blade. If the follow-up strike lands on a poisoned foe, it will deal significant damage."

It says 'follow-up strike ' does it means it does 2 strikes so it is bugged?
or do I understand it wrong?

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This Ash of War, while not optimal, is still great. However, you need a basic understanding of math and not think this skill exists in a vacuum where nothing synergizes with it. If you don't know how to make this work somewhat decently, feel free to stick with simple unga bunga.

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This Ash of War, while not optimal, is still great. However, you need a basic understanding of math and not think this skill exists in a vacuum where nothing synergizes with it. If you don't know how to make this work somewhat decently, feel free to stick with simple unga bunga.

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Okay, I've been doing some testing to see how good this could actually be.

Main Hand [+19 Occult Wakizashi with Poison Moth Flight]
Offhand [Un-upgraded Occult Venomous Fang (I used Lifesteal Fist for the WoA to get Occult)]
Mushroom Crown Helmet
Talismans - Shard of Alexander / Kindred of Rots Exultation

80 Arcane
19 Dex

I tested on the Giant to the west of the Third Church of Marika.
Poison procs after 3 hits to the giant. I got a consistent 807 damage from Poison Moth Flight.
[Including the hits from the un-upgraded fang, and the poison ticks afterwards were around 1100-1300 damage total]
You can increase that amount a little if you use the Rotten Winged Sword Insignia. I was able to hit for around 860 with the AR bonus. You could probably get to 900 if you fully stacked the talisman first.)

I then went to test this on the Giant South of the Giants' Gravepost. I was able to get a consistent 1138 on them.
[Including the hits from the un-upgraded fang, and the poison ticks afterwards it was around 1700-1800 damage total]

So honestly, not terrible.

The last test I did was the whole reason I used the Wakizashi. It has Innate Bleed. Put on Lord of Bloods Exultation. So once again, on the Giant south of the Giants' Gravepost.
3 hits to proc Poison, 4 hits to proc Bleed, and with both buffs from the Talismans Poison Moths Flight hit for 1280.
This could increase with the Rotten Winged Sword Insignia, and a fully upgraded Wakizashi. I think you could probably get to ~1500 per proc.

For reference, Poison Moth Flight on the un-upgraded Wakizashi was only hitting for ~300 per proc.

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Bloody slash could take half my health and this would still be worse.

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congratulations, you've found the worst ash of war

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Only upside to this is to you can proc mushroom crown / talisman of rot to keep the bonus damage going from those items

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not that it makes this skill particularly good. but i've been enjoying it on the blood stained dagger, quality, or poison is fine. with an alternate weapon that has white shadows lure, and poison buildup. i can get a quick back stab then switch and apply poison, then white shadows lure, and witch to my dagger again, using the moth flight skill for ok damage. it's nothing major. but at least i'm able to get the skill to activate, before staggering. i hope to see other fun builds with this ash of war too

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The damage burst from removing the poison happens even when you have no FP. But if there is no poison the damage seems to be one normal light at 0 FP.

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The very first few frames make you crouch down heavily and during this any sideways slashes someone might do to you could go over your head. Not important with katanas/greatswords or any strike weapons but its a small upside ive found.

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Letting the poison tic till it expires does more damage than this war with all its gimmics met. A colossal failure balance wise. It's utterly useless. Unusable. Poison builds really got the shortest stick out of all of them.

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The weapons this can be put on are : Katanas, Straight Swords, Daggers, Thrusting Swords (Rapiers) and Curved Swords. If the damage happens to be a multiplier from the weapons AR or the non explosive WA damage gets multiplied you can also use the Kindred of Rot exultation Talisman to get another damage boost, the damage boost sticks for 20 seconds.
From my testing it looked like it worked, i am assuming it is not just applying the damage from the poison instantly which would be ludicrously strong if it did. (Normal poison does upwards of 600 damage and deadly poison does upwards of 400 very quickly.) If it does "explode the poison" like one might assume it only does it as deadly poison or not at all.

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Letting the poison tic till it expires does more damage than this war with all its gimmics met. A colossal failure balance wise. It's utterly useless. Unusable. Poison builds really got the shortest stick out of all of them.

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how can u do the followup ?

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I tried this with scarlet rot. Was just curious. It does not work with scarlet rot.

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I noticed that after this ash of war lands, you do get the extra damage like the description says but the poison effect is removed. My thought is that it deals all of the poison damage instantly. It's not much extra damage though. Poison really doesn't do much to begin with.

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Added this and poison to my Antspur, combined with the Kindred of Rot talisman. Inflicts poison, get a damage buff, then rot, then get another damage buff. Very nice.

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