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After some testing, it seems that weapon arts with lingering damage (such as the lava from eruption) can build stacks of bleed

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"guys its just tech, its not an exploit they would have patched it already if it was"

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I don't see the point of innate bleed on great-stars in the first place. It kills any enemy I use it on long before it can proc the status effect so I stopped casting this on it and switched to electrify armament.

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This incantation seems to build up the bleed bar over time, kind of like how the black flame incantations do damage over time (not indefinitely). When I used it against an NPC invader, I sometimes would get a bleed proc about one half second after the hit landed.

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The wiki page for Hoarah Loux's earthshaker that has the video clip of it being used says it "triggers bloodflame blade's bleed debuff effect" can anyone explain exactly what that means and how it works? I thought it would be similar to FDS but so far I haven't been able to trigger the effect on the dragons near fort faroth, with bloodflame blade cast on a vulgar militia saw I didn't see the damage burst I'd expect from an enemy that had been successfully bled out, HLE does actually kill the dragons when its cast repeatedly near them but it looks to me like the value of it is breaking the dragons stance in one cast and its follow up then doing the really big damage while its vulnerable. So I'm either doing something wrong or the AoW wasn't intended to do that and has been patched since the page was last updated.

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Combined this w/ Fire's Deadly Sin, Spiked Caestus and BHS for my 8th gate Might Guy cosplay.. \m/

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Shines the best when used with the lighter bleed weapons i.e. Nagakiba or lighter. Heavier bleed weapons (Flamberge and up) can still work fine sure but are a little slow to get the max benefit out of this spell since the bleed effect stacks w/ successive attacks. Twinblades are really the only non-bleed weapons you can *sort of* get by using this with for their fast multi-hit two-handed attack chains.

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You can just throw on Fire's Deadly Sin and then slap it on whatever tf you want 'cause then it won't even matter LOL

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Too bad it can't be used on a weapon with innate infusion, would use it on Eleo's Twins otherwise.

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Really good with claws, solo'd radahn with +8 raptor talons. Its more appealing than blood infusion for claws, since bleed is not that great for them. Also, the bleed buildup instead of straight up bleed is really good in practice as even with my relentless playstyle, there were always some downtime to regain stamina, and this mf makes sure i don't lose any buildup in that time. 9/10 only weakness is bleed immune enemies

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This on an Occult Uchigatana + Fire's Deadly Sin + the BHS or Blood Tax AoW + Lord of Blood's Exultation turns this game into literal easy mode for a high Arcane build. Especially now that RoB got its (much needed) nerf.

Let the blood, tears and salt flow.

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Is this still worth using at base requirements? Or is stat investment required for it to be worth it alongside Strengthen Me, O Flame and Golden Vow?

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if putting bleed on the ash of war is faster and stronger, why does anyone use buffs? not like they appreciate showmanship in pvp....

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Does arcane affect the bleed build up value or it has absolutely no effect whether you use this spell with 20 or 60 arcane?

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Excuse my lack of intelligence


Let's say I have a Buffable Weapon, specifically, the Great Stars (which I can now have two of, thx 1.06)
If I give it Bleed Infusion, I believe it makes it unbuffable, as would giving a Poison Infusion. But if I gave it an Occult infusion, does that make it unbuffable?

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Best incantation, sharing it's place Ekzykes's Decay, Erdtree Heal and Swarm of Flies.

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This absolutely shreds in pvp with golden land and incantations with good tracking spam like elden stars, pest threads, swarm and dragon breathes.

Have a good defense build and you will out trade even bleed burst

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For a neat combo trick, apply this to a weapon then cast Fire's Deadly Sin. So long as your equipped weapon has bloodflame active on it, the AOE fire bubble surrounding you will also apply bleed to enemies. For some good fun, get all the enemies at Gatefront to attack you while this is active while you hold up a great shield.
I have tested this on weapons with and without innate bleed, and have observed no difference in the fire aura's bleed buildup.

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When I did something like this I found it was worth it to use an uchigatana in the secondary as well but equip it with flame of the redmanes because the stagger is unmatched. Because your biggest defense is dodging it allows you more defensive options in a lot of fights.

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Prelates charge will still apply the bleed even in patch 1.05. I tested this on July 31st with all updates on PS4 using a Heavy Great Stars.

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I'm running pure STR build with Flamberge, which has innate bleed. Is this thing worth using over blood grease while only meeting minimal requirements?

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Irrelevant for bleed builds due to Occult Seppuku. Fire damage is negligible at best.

Cool spell, but outclassed by nearly everything.

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It's just a shame you also can't apply this on staff's. I had a very specific int/faith build in mind using the Staff of the guilty. Blood flame blade+plus spinning weapon is a pretty good option, I used it on the Nightriders Flail as my secondary weapon for my Pyromancer build and it would proc bleed just about every time you used the skill.

Maybe not as OP as everyone else's favorite options but it gets the job done. And would be nice for when something gets in your face when all you have equiped is a staff and a seal.

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Any other ashes/weapons that are op with this other than eruption?

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Yeah lets have it not have additional scaling with arcane or any other secondary incant scaling stat that TOTALLY makes sense. Seriously. Its a blood incantation, it should have arcane in the scaling formula when used with the Dragon Communion seal.

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If you equip Ruler's Mask and Commoner's Garb it's possible to cast this on a level 1 Wretch without having to use any talisman slots.

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does it work when you apply seppuku and this incantation on a keen uchigatana

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Have a heck of a time trying to get this to cast. It's greyed out for me and I've used a variety of staff's to case and swords/daggers for it to be applied. I'm mostly a glass cannon build but have the min Arcane 10 and Faith 12 to build. When I "memorize" the spell it shows like it could be actively cast but I exit the grace point it's still grayed out in my casting list. Any ideas?

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sad I can't cast it on the left hand weapon with a right hand catalyst

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Does bloodflame Blade work with any kind of incantations, e.g. elden Stars or just limited on flame incantations?

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Putting it on a whip looks cool as heck.

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Can confirm it still works on offhand shields, so the shield crash combo is still strong.

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Nagakiba+bloodflame blade+double slash= poor mans Rivers of Blood

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By the way, since it add fire damage, you can stack this on a bleed weapon with a powerstanced cold weapon to reset the frost status and proc it again, its quite strong.

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Does the buildup stack if used with fast weapons?

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I believe the purpose of this is to give faith builds with the tiniest of arcane dips a way to use bleed. The damage scales with faith, and arcane builds have access to infusions that allow for far superior inherent bleed that acts instantly rather than the 40 over time bleed build up from this. It also synergizes well with another faith incantation: flame, grant me strength.

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A deceptively strong, easy-to-use spell that can make quick work of every boss that isn't immune to Bleed. Put it on a weapon that already has innate bleed buildup, like an Uchigatana or Morning Star, and Godfrey's your uncle. — Courh the Explorer

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How is the buff calculated when applied to paired weapons like fists and claws? Since the DoT is stackable, does 2-handing paired weapons get a complete buff on each hand?

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Can anyone confirm if the most recent patch removed the Pulley Crossbow trick? 1.05 notes say it should no longer apply

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Apparently, people are reporting evidence that this weapon buff also applies to your offhand weapon while it is active in your right, notably even after you swap your offhand seal. This is especially noteworthy as the buff applies to the offhand weapon even if that weapon, or shield, cannot be buffed normally. This is confusing because there is nothing that would visually indicate any this is happening, but it can be confirmed via the offhand weapons damage output. Two-handing your offhand weapon removes the buff, so the buffed righthand weapon needs to be out and active, in order for this buff to apply to your offhand. This probably happens with other buffs too, and requires testing.

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So...
*This is a bleed buff that doesn't scale on arcane...
*It also adds fire damage which is only boosted from 40% magic adjust
*it scales off faith

How useful!

To make the most of it I'd need:
*High Dex for innate bleed weapon with Keen infusion (for buffing)
*That weapon which also has Seppuku Ash of War (also have arcane for more bleed?)
*Need to remember it gives next to useless flame damage bonus
*Have faith to optimise damage buff (really tho?)

What a mess.

Keen Uchi with Seppuku Ash of war.
80 Dex and whatever amount of Fai. Use Flame Grant me Strength.

Like, it could be good, but the complexity!

F.

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So it scales off both faith and arcane?

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What is the fuking point of having the only arcane based buff strictly avoid scaling with arcane? Fromsoft back at it again with this weird ****, smh

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Okay so this page says 40. The incantations page says 35. There's comments below saying 30. The question is how much bleed build up does this actually add?

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Will a ranged skill like flame of the redmanes carry the blood buildup while this is active?

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I swear neither flame grant me strength nor flame-shrouding cracked tear improves its damage.

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Should work with any ash of war that doesn't provide a weapon enchantment, ex sacred blade ash of war. I only tested glintblade phalanx, but I put that AoW on on a plain broadsword, which doesn't have any bleed buildup. Fighting the troll outside of godricks boss door, while buffed with blood flame blade, glintblade phalanx proc'ed bleed in two casts. As a control, I took the same weapon, and it took 7 light attacks to proc bleed, while using this incantation. It seems, if you put an ash of war that has many attacks or projectiles, you'll get much more milage out of this spell.

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For whatever reason, this doesn't work on the Staff of the Guilty, and that's a little sad.

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Why can’t I use this with the winged scythe?

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I like putting this on my Keen Rotten Greataxe with Prelates charge equipped as well! Does Rot & Bleed & fire damage (also keep lightning buff equipped incase that don’t work) finally a decent bleed weapon that scales with a faith dex build

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raises the coolness of your weapon by atleast 40%

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ah yes, the darth maul build

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Looks cool. Gonna use this

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This incant only does 30 Bleed per hit, so it isn’t that great of a buff. Still, 30 bleed can be a lot on the fast attacking weapons.

Overall for PvE Blackflame Blade is better due to percent health damage up front, but lower up time.

Electrify Armaments is still the best scaling buff spell in the game, so if you have high faith, use it instead.

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how much bleed does this incantation add?

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Does this overwrite seppuku? Say I have an uchi with seppuku on keen affinity, I use seppuku, then cast bloodflame blade? Is this even possible and does it give a stacking effect?

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This buff + pulley crossbow + burred bolts = PvP pain. This buff + pulley crossbow + explosive bolts = Hawkeye from Marvel. You double the stacks of bleed (once for the initial hit and again with the explosion). It probably wasn't meant to act like this but it does. That's 6 bleed stacks if all 3 bolts hit. Add on the Lord of Blood's Exultation tailsman and you've got the ultimate PvP weapon. Just lock on and fire away. Very difficult to dodge all 3 bolts. A shielded player would have an easier time however.

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THERE WILL BE BLOOD.SHED.

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Tested this on Prelate's Charge on the giant land octopi in Liurnia near where you obtain the incantation. With FGMS, you can deal around 5500 damage (the entirety of the the octopuses health bar) in just a couple of seconds. I didn't time it, but I'd wager around 1000 dps without the initial swing/end of the attack animation.

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Does It work with seppuku on a natural bleed weapon for example uchigatana but with a dex infusion ?

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So if it’s 40% of faith portion? like in golden order seal?

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this + keen double slash uchigatana, i can already understand why RoB is so feared in PvP...

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Why can't I use this on my Occult Twinblades? Occult doesn't even add an affinity to the weapon.

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this + curved sword = quelaags furysword 2.0

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what if

I put it

on the ice axe

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This is best for weapons that already have bloodloss to keep the build up from expiring as fast. Like all weapon enchants, the elemental damage it adds isn’t great compared to just changing the ash on a weapon to the affinity you want, or using a unique weapon with high base elemental damage. The whole thing going around about “split damage” hurting your AR isn’t true. Enchants just suck for raw damage output compared to setting an affinity.

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Using this with Keen Bloodhound's Claws with Flame, Grant Me Strength.
Very satisfying play-through so far. Seemingly everything in this game is weak to either Bleed or Fire.

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- Acquire Prelate's hammer
- Apply Bloodflame to the weapon
- Mow through gankers

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Us this with a flamberg. Thinking about only doing mid level pvp with it.

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This incantation works with Fire's Deadly Sin the exact way Death build-up used to (tested in 1.04). Cast both incants on yourself and you will apply bloodflame to everything around you every tick. It sucks and it's terrible (at least compared to the death one-shots FDS used to do) but it's worth noting that From have the most low-effort approach to patching exploits that you can imagine. Well, enjoy!

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Just tried this at 38 faith on some colossal weapons. It turns out the only one that dealt significantly more damage was the one that already had innate fire damage. With any other weapons, the AR in the menu significantly went up, but the actual damage when I attacked was negligible.

That said, it does proc bleed with Prelate's Charge, so it's not entirely useless if that's what you're going for. Just remember if it seems like the buff is garbage, it's because the weapon lacks fire damage to begin with.

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I am trying to figure this out on my own, and I am failing. I have a Strength Faith Build. (35 Str, 21 Faith) currently. Using Great Stars with Flame of the Redmanes. If I put Heavy Affinity on it, I can buff it with Bloodflame for extra bleed proc and Fire Damage. Or can put Fire Affinity on it for extra fire damage, but then I cannot use Bloodflame on it. Ignoring the extra bleed proc, do I get more damage from Bloodflame/Heavy, or Fire Affinity? Offhanding a Beastclaw Seal.

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combine with Fire's Deadly sin get AOE bleed proc , Is it a glitch or feature ?
if it as intend I will use this combo in low SL PVP

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Might as well treat it like a flat bleed buff rather than a badly scaling fire buff if you're not running high faith.

And if you're doing high arcane, you've got better sources of bleed, like occult sudoku katana.

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This + double slash + L O O O O N G katana is discount RoB

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This + double slash + L O O O O N G katana is discount RoB

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Might as well treat it like a flat bleed buff rather than a badly scaling fire buff if you're not running high faith.

And if you're doing high arcane, you've got better sources of bleed, like occult sudoku katana.

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This + double slash + L O O O O N G katana is discount RoB

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Might as well treat it like a flat bleed buff rather than a badly scaling fire buff if you're not running high faith.

And if you're doing high arcane, you've got better sources of bleed, like occult sudoku katana.

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why do people hate this incantation so much. it is really good on katanas that it can buff and cuts down on the amount of hits you need to bleed by the same amount as drawstring blood grease on blood abernacks (i just tested it 2 hits on both) and adds some fire damage as well. they also compare it to Seppuku despite needing to get thru most of the game to get seppuku when you can get this before any boss. i know its scaling is bad but thats not the point. its a great incantation for pure dex/str builds that can spare some levels for fai/arc so they can bleed better. (side note using this on a no bleed regular dagger it takes 6 hits to bleed normal enemys. the same as drawstring blood grease however early game enemys die too fast to bleed using either)

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Does it get buffed by flame grant me strength?

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Cast this with Clawmark Seal and use Heavy infused Great Stars with Prelate's Charge. Sheeeeeesh. Talk about mowing the gr-ass. Stunlock, bleed, burn, heal, and damage. What more could you want?

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There is like one weapon in the entire game with an innate bloodloss proc that you can use for a pure faith build unless you dump a decent amount of points into dex or str. Even with the op helm equipped and the talisman with 60 faith this buff only brought it up to 370 as compared to 577 when sacred. Even with split stats my sacred scimitar did like 200 more damage against opponents with a single hit. The bleed proc is by no means as quick as anything else with a higher bleed and seppuku for that matter. This is a toss away ability honestly unless you're like level 250

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For a fire build is this worth only leveling faith to do fire damage and not really worry about bleed or is it too weak to do that?

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This scales off Faith because it is the Fire weapon buff. There is no pure fire weapon buff, just this. To all those wishing it scaled with Arcane for your blood build, you have other options to buff - Seppuku, etc.

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Would it be better to just use a blood infused Nagakiba with Seppuku or a standard, keen or heavy Nagakiba with bloodflame blade. I also have a dragon communion seal at +7 currently if that helps.

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Darth Maul

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So if im building Arcane is it just more worth to use occult ashes?

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The wiki is wrong on that you can put it on bleed infused weapons. you cant.

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TLDR it looks like its actually 60 bleed buildup not 40.
From looking at the data in yapped: every time you attack it is applying a +3 point bleed build up every 0.1 seconds over the course of 2 seconds 3*(2/0.1) = 60. To test this go, change the Bloodflame blade [cycle] in SpEffectParam from 3-->15 and attack 1 time with a non-bleed weapon. It will add 300 bleed buildup which should be enough to proc the bleed effect on most enemies.

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Baller

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The highlight function of this spell is to improve bleed profs in a faith-focused build with low arcane.

It’s damage scales only from incant scaling granted by faith (hence poor damage from dragon communion seal.)

Here’s the thing: Arcane build have arcane weapons and this will use seppuku, elanora’s, etc. They already have better bleed options.

This spell adds to a Faith build’s options (Order’s Blade, Lightning Armament, Bloodflame, Blackflame, and even Poison). You can quickly apply bloodloss, roll and cast poison, apply poison, roll and cast your preferred damage (holy, lightning, or blackflame). This gives you an active play style of cycling through multiple weapon buffs all scaled purely by faith.

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I use this on my +20 Heavy Brick Hammer with Prelate's Charge.... Low Risk-Very High Reward.

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I have an occult scaled weapon and my character is unable to use this spell with it equipped. Is there a restriction on scaling?

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This is simultaneously a great spell and a disappointing spell. I don't see why it should only scale it's damage with faith, but it does. And if you're an arcane bleed build you have better options.

Since it's damage only scales with faith I can only really see two uses for it:
1) In faith builds that also want to proc a lot of bleed through their weapon specifically
2) Strength/dex builds that want a better version of blood grease

If you want to build around this spell, I would recommend using star fists/spiked caestus and punching the hell out of things

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does the 40 bleed over 2 seconds effect stack or reset if you hit a target more than once in 2 seconds?

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What's the damage difference between blood Grease, fire grease, the "blood flame blade" incantation and "seppuku" ash of war?
when should I use which thing?

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This page has been updated with misinformation. It previously and correctly stated "Grants .4x of Incant Scaling as Added Fire Damage. Note that as of 1.03 weapon buff scaling only takes Faith into account on split-scaling seals." and the page's revision history even mentions this.
This has been changed to "Grants .2x Incant Scaling as Added Fire Damage. This damage scales with your Incant Scaling NOT your stats. Tested with all seals fully upgraded and all damage stats at 80." which is misleading and verifiably false information. I tested this myself and can confirm the original description as being true.
Incantation Scaling scales with stats. A sacred seal like the Dragon Communion Seal scales with both Faith and Arcane, but the weapon buffs like Bloodflame Blade and Electrify Armament scale EXCLUSIVELY with Faith. My Finger Seal and Frenzied Flame Seal's have the same incantation scaling value, yet the Finger Seal gives a bigger buff to Fire Damage because again, it scales exclusively with Faith!

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So with this added to a weapon, how many times do you need to hit the target before bleed actually procs?

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slap this on a colossal weapon with praetor's charge and laugh as you scoop up enemies into a flaming, bleeding pain-train

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I don't if the fire scorpion charme could be use with this incantation ?_?

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