Boc the Seamster

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Location Limgrave
Role Garments Adjuster and
Quest NPC
Voiced by Calvin A. Dean

Boc the Seamster is an NPC in Elden RingBoc is a Demi-Human who is capable of advanced communication. Boc is initially met by the player in the form of a small tree.

Once you have completed Boc's questline, he appears at Graces in the Altus Plateau, and allows you to Alter equipment without paying the standard 500 rune fee. Boc does not provide any new or different alterations. 


Boc the Seamster, at your service.
Ready to make adjustments to your garments.


Boc the Seamster Location in Elden Ring

Boc the Seamster can be found in multiple locations:

  1. Boc the Seamster is first encountered east of the telescope that is south of Agheel Lake North Site of Grace in Limgrave. He is disguised as a small tree and will call out to you upon approaching. [Map Link]
  2. After meeting him the first time, Boc will move to the Coastal Cave in western Limgrave. You will find him on the ground right next to the Site of Grace. [Map Link]
    • After giving Boc the Seamster the Sewing Needle at this second location, he will be able to appear at the following remaining four locations, depending on furthest Site of Grace that the player has rested at. Resting at any of the Site of Graces listed below, will make him appear there, in ascending order. 
      • At all the following locations, he will now offer his service of altering garments.
      • At all the following locations except Lake-Facing Cliffs, Boc can be given the Gold Sewing Needle, if you're carrying alterable boss armor (e.g. Radahn's Lion Armor).
  3. He can be found kneeling by the Lake-Facing Cliffs Site of Grace, north of Stormveil Castle in Liurnia of the Lakes.  You have to rest at the Lake-Facing Cliffs Site of Grace for him to appear. [Map Link]
  4. He can be found kneeling by the East Raya Lucaria Gate Site of Grace (southwest most point of the Bellum Road). You have to rest at the East Raya Lucaria Gate Site of Grace for him to appear. Map Link
  5. He can be found kneeling by the Altus Highway Junction Site of Grace in Altus Plateau. You have to rest at the Altus Highway Junction Site of Grace for him to appear. [Map Link]
  6. He can be found kneeling by the East Capital Rampart Site of Grace in Leyndell Royal Capital. You have to rest at the East Capital Rampart Site of Grace for him to appear. Map Link
  7. The questline now branches in one of three ways. You can either:
  8. After choosing the "You're Beautiful" branch, telling him he's beautiful when he asks and making progress in Leyndell, Boc relocates to the East Capital Rampart Site of Grace.


Boc the Seamster Questline: How to complete Boc the Seamster's Quest

First Encounter

Upon first encounter,  northwest of the Murkwater Bridge, Boc is disguised as a tree and calling for help. If you perform an attack on the tree, the spell breaks and Boc returns to its original form. He will then narrate how he was expelled from his cave and had everything he owned taken, humbly rewarding you with x10 Mushrooms, which is everything he currently has. However, he states that if you wait, he could sneak back into the cave and retrieve some of his belongings, which could make him useful to you.

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Second Encounter

The second encounter with Boc is at Coastal Cave, within a few steps into the entrance tunnel, right besides the Coastal Cave Site of Grace. [Map Link] He is lying on the floor as he's been beaten up when trying to recover his belongings. In order to help him you must venture inside the cave. But beware, however, as there are many Demi-Humans ahead, and these creatures tend to attack in groups.
At one point in Coastal Cave you'll reach the Demi-Humans' settlement, where you will encounter even more enemies and two Demi-Human Chief bosses. Upon defeat, these Bosses will drop Boc's belongings:

Go back to Boc The Seamster at Coastal Cave's entrance and deliver the tools to him. He will thank you and after you move, he'll no longer be at that location.

NOTE: It is also fine to defeat the Demi-Human Chiefs first and then encounter Boc by the Murkwater Bridge afterwards. Exhaust his dialogue and then return to the cave to give him the sewing materials.


Third Encounter

You can later find Boc The Seamster at the Lake-Facing Cliffs Site of Grace in Liurnia of the Lakes. He is glad to see you and offers to make adjustments to your garments. 

  • From now on, he will be able to alter the garments of the player.
  • Some armor pieces can be changed to an alternative design. This service is free of charge. This will lower the stats of the affected armor piece, but for the most part is cosmetic as the stat drop is generally very minor. (This function basically removes the cape from armor pieces.)

His quest can be continued if these three conditions are met:

  1. Retrieve the Gold Sewing Needle from the Church of Vows on the east side of Liurnia of the Lakes.
  2. Buy at least one piece of legendary boss armor that can be altered from Finger Reader Enia at the Roundtable Hold. Note that only demigod armor counts as "legendary", so armor such as Briar Armor won't work despite being alterable and sold by Enia. 
  3. You have spoken to Melina about Boc at the East Raya Lucaria Gate Site of Grace.

This enables the option to give him the Gold Sewing Needle, which makes it possible to alter legendary armor as well. If you do not have the option to give him the gold sewing needle then, either:

  1. You do not have the Gold Sewing Needle in your inventory
  2. You do not have legendary armor that can be altered in your inventory. Remember, like all the other (non-boss) armor found in the game, not all of it can be altered. Same rule applies to Boc and the gold needle. In addition, only armor worn by demigods is considered legendary.

NOTE: You can skip seeing him here and still find him at later at different locations, depending on progress.


Fourth Encounter

Boc will leave the Lake-Facing Site of Grace after Accessing Raya Lucaria Academy and move to the East Raya Lucaria Gate Site of Grace. After speaking with him here and resting at the Site of Grace, you will then have the option to speak with Melina, who will remark on Boc.

NOTE: You can skip seeing him here and still find him at later at different locations, depending on progress.


Fifth Encounter

He can be found at Altus Plateau at the Altus Highway Junction Site of Grace.

NOTE: You can skip seeing him here and still find him at later at different locations, depending on progress.


Sixth Encounter

He can be found at Altus Plateau next to the East Capital Ramparts Site of Grace.

If not done at this point, this is the last location Boc the Seamster will appear and stay at, until giving him the Gold Sewing Needle.

If he now (or at any other possible location before) received the Gold Sewing Needle, his quest will continue and he will remark about his ugly appeareance and asks your opinion on it. He will imply his desire to be rebirthed by Rennala.

You have different choices how to proceed:

  • You can give him a Larval Tear, and upon resting, he will move next to Rennala. He will be reborn into a human form, and he will not respond when talked to. If you rest again, he will die.
  • Alternatively, you can perform the "You're Beautiful" Prattling Pate in front of him (found in Hermit Village at Mt.Gelmir), then discuss it.
  • Using the Prattling Pate in front of him removes the option to give him a Larval Tear. Choose either to give him a Larval Tear OR use the Prattling Pate.

Dialogue in Elden Ring: Boc The Seamster


  • "Oi! You there! Could you help us out, cully?
    You, yeah, you there! Stop pretending you can't see me".
  • "Why won't anyone look me in the eye?
    I'm not that ugly".

If attacking the tree in which Boc was turned into

  • "Ow! What'd you go and do that for!
    Hm? Oh, yes, I remember. Some clod turned me into a tree.
    You were just breaking the spell, weren't you.
    Thank you. The name's Boc.
    I was pushed out of the cave. Told not to come back, not ever.
    Then I ended up as a tree.
    Lucky you came along, really.
    Boc the seamster, at your service, Master".
  • "Oh, what a shame.
    When they threw me out of the cave, they took everything I owned, and so this is all I have to express my thanks.
    I hope you can forgive me".
    [Hands over x10 Mushroom]
  • "Or, if you can afford to wait for a while, I could sneak back into the cave, and bring back something of actual value.
    Then I'd be of some real use to you, I reckon".
  • "Right, but I'll need a moment.
    I-I'm frightened of them... So I have to gather myself.
    My knees start knockin'...just thinking bout that god-awful cave on the shore".

At Coastal Cave

  • "Oh... It...hurts..."
  • "Oh, what are you doing here?
    You must leave this place at once. They'll rush in and beat you to a pulp.
    You'll end up just like me".


  • "Boc the Seamster, at your service.
    Ready to make adjustments to your garments".

Giving the Sewing Needle

  • "Wait, is that what I think it is? You got it back for me? My sewing needle!
    What made you go and do a thing like that....
    My mum was a seamstress...and that sewing kit was all I had to remember her by.
    I always wanted to be just like sweet old Mum.  Then, I suppose I-I can't just curl up and die, can I?"

After receiving the Sewing Needle

  • "Thank you. You're very kind".

At Lake-Facing Cliffs Site of Grace

  • "Good to see you! Master. Do you remember me? Boc, the demi-human. You helped me before, and retrieved my sewing needle.
    Please, master. Allow me to serve you, as your seamster. I can't make nothing from scratch, but...
    I'm happy to make adjustments to your garments".
    • [Don't tell me...]
      • "Master, I was wondering... Do you ever...make adjustments to your garb yourself? I would, well, rather you let me do the job when possible, please. I don't ask anything in return, you know, and, well... I am your personal seamster, after all!".

Did you see it? At East Capital Rampart

  • "Master, did  you see it? Th-the Erdtree? I, oh, I don't really have the words for this...But I was so dazzled, I felt something stir, in my breast. The Erdtree is waiting for you, Master. I know it, I do. I feel it in my bones". 


  • "Oh, going so soon? Please, do be safe on your journey".

I'm sorry...

  • "Your wardrobe includes the garb of old demigods, and I'm afraid I can't make adjustments to them.
    My mum told me once. That a royal seamster would do them up in a jiffy.
    Just wait, master. Before long, I'll be that good, too!"

After receiving the Gold Sewing Needle

  • "Thank you kindly. But what on earth could it... Oh!
    Amazing! I've never seen a golden needle, not in all my life! With a spectacular royal crest, to boot...

    Are you certain that this is for me? Oh, I can hardly believe it.
    Have faith in me, Master! I'll polish my craft enough that I deserve this golden gift!
    I'll be the golden seamster, Boc! Now I'll be able to sew anything, even the threads of the demigods!"

I have a favor to ask

  • "Would you mind if I called you lord? I heard that you and the other Tarnished seek the throne of the Elden Lord.
    Well, I know that you will be the one, and you'd make just the manner of kind hearted lord that I'd wish for.
    So, please, if you would. Allow me to call you lord."
  • (If you say yes): "M'lord, m'lord, m'lord! Please become Elden Lord.
    And please, let I, Boc the seamster, remain at your side."
    [You receive the "My Lord" Gesture]

Surely she'd be happy for you?

  • "That I'm as good as any royal seamster, now. Oh, it's still not enough.
    I need to learn how to sew from scratch, like her."

Have you ever thought so?

  • "Well, they say that Rennala of Raya Lucaria has the power to help people be reborn.
    Oh? Me? Reborn? Oh, look at me. When you're this ugly... well being reborn? It would hardly make a difference, I'm afraid."

What do you really think?

  • "In all honesty, what do you think of me? Am I fit to serve a lord such as you, in all my ugliness?
    Must I be reborn, no matter what ill fate awaits me?
    Oh, I'm such a fool. I don't even have answers to the simplest of questions"

After receiving a Larval Tear

  • "Oh! Oh! It can't be... For my rebirth? But these are precious, are you certain that it's for me?
    Oh... M'lord how did you know? It was my only wish, that I might honour you with a decent appearance."

Please wait

  • "I'm off to see Rennala of Raya Lucaria. I'll be reborn, fresh and new."

After hearing the Prattling Pate "You're Beautiful"

  • "Thank you very much. Mum was always the only one who said I was beautiful.
    And now, my dear lord let me hear her voice. Please, if I may dream, just once...
    Do you feel the same way my mum did m'lord? Do you think I'm beautiful, despite these looks?"
  • (If you say yes): "M'lord, my dear lord...
    I, Boc the seamster, am forever in your service. May the throne of Elden Lord be yours."
  • (If you say no): "No, why on earth would you? It was silly of me to ask. Please, forget that I did. But I beg, don't renounce me for my appearance. One day, I'll look every bit the servant."
    • [The voice was mine.]
      • "Master... kind Master... I, Boc the Seamster, am forever in your service."

When attacked

  • (Before starting his quest) "Mum... I've... I've let you down"
  • (Warning) "Ow! M-m'lord? Is something wrong? It's me! Boc, the seamster!"
  • (Combat) "Oh, my... M'lord, is that the truth, your heart of hearts? My, oh my... Ah... aaah!"
  • (On player kill) "M'lord... What have I done?"

Upon defeat

  • "M'lord... I've failed you... please, forgive me."


Elden Ring Notes & Trivia for Boc

  • Voiced by Actor Calvin A. Dean
  • Boc was featured in the Elden Ring Network Test at the same location.
  • Boc wears the Aristocrat Hat and uses the Great Knife during combat.
  • Boc can be killed with one hit. Once killed, Boc will not respawn, even after using Celestial Dew.
  • Despite Boc's questline involving you turning over the Sewing Needle and Tailoring Tools, you are still able to perform alterations at any Site of Grace, as the Tailoring Tools will stay in your inventory. Boc will offer the same services, simply as an alternative.
    • The advantage of alterations done by Boc over a Site of Grace is that Boc will not charge you for altering clothing. Using the Tailoring Tools at a site of grace will cost Runes each time an alteration is made.
  • Once you obtain a demi-god armor set, you can ask Boc why he does not offer altering demi-god's garments with the "I'm sorry..." option. He will then provide input as to why he doesn't alter those garments due to what his mother used to tell him, and that maybe he may become good enough to do so someday.
  • Thanks to the latest Patch, he is easier to find in Limgrave, now that his voice triggers from a farther distance from before. An Arteria Leaf was also placed near him to lure players to hear him.

What Garments can you Alter in Elden Ring?

Specific Helmets and Body Armor pieces in Elden Ring can be altered when have the required Items for altering. You will need a Sewing Needle and Tailoring Tools to be able to perform alterations to your basic garments. The Gold Sewing Needle is required in order to be able to alter demigod armor pieces.

Both Sewing Needle and Tailoring Tools items can be obtained from the Demi-Human Chief, located in Coastal Cave, western LimgraveMap Link. This is a boss encounter. Defeat the Demi-Human Chief and it will drop these items. With these tools you can now rest at any Site of Grace to access your options and you should have the option to Alter Garments. This should display your Armor pieces before and after Alterations. Select which garment to alter. Altering will also cost runes, so make sure you are happy with the alterations before confirming. Altering your garments with Boc, however, will be free, but you will need to progress through his questline before this action is available. 

To gain access to Boc's altering services, go through his questline until he moves to the Lake Facing Cliffs Site of Grace. You will first need to locate him northwest of the Murkwater Bridge, Boc is disguised as a tree and calling for help. If you perform an attack on the tree, the spell breaks and Boc returns to its original form. You will then need to give him the Sewing Needle and Tailoring Tools. He will be at the  Coastal Cave. After giving him his supplies he will then move to Liurnia of the Lakes where the Lake-Facing Cliffs Site of Grace is. He will now offer his seamster services to you for free.


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    • Anonymous

      I tried to get him to ask me if he's beautiful after I had him alter the Demi god armor but I'm stuck after I let him call me Lord. Any tips?

      • Anonymous

        I don’t tell him that he is beautiful, since for the people i truly care about, I don’t lie, boc is ugly, but idc if he is, I like him all the same.

        • Anonymous

          Lmao this is the most cringe comment section in gaming history. The only character who doesn’t betray you in any way and genuinely cares for the PC and people hate on him.

          • Anonymous

            so he does the bare minimum of armor alteration for free and that's cool, but who're you paying 500 runes to when you do the altering yourself???

            • Anonymous

              Well I saw him as a human, realized he was going to die, and told him he was beautiful. Whether he interprets that as he was always beautiful, or he succeeded in becoming beautiful before he died from his own (and my) mistake, there's a sort of sad symmetry there, and I am bittersweet satisfied.

              • Anonymous

                I saved him while hes a tree, and thats it, i'm not gonna go to the cave murder his entire family and return his needle and call myself a hero, if he want to make something of himself, he gotta do it himself or just curl up and die.

                • Anonymous

                  What people seem to not understand with this game's overall design is that every quest (with a few exceptions of poorly designed quests such as D's), fulfills it's purpose by teaching you something despite if it's the hard way. It doesn't matter if the player can keep boc alive (by visiting the wiki lmfao), you learn nothing if you do that. But, should you follow the quest's canonical progression and give him the larval tear, there's a chance that you'll learn there's nothing to gain by striving to be someone you could never be.

                  • Anonymous

                    Why do I get the impression that Boc wants me to lightly slap him around and gobble me up? "Oh master you're so powerful, yes!" He creeps me out.

                    • Anonymous

                      Offer beating to a pulp required ahead!, O, Offer beating to a pulp required ahead...!

                      Srsly though, you've roamed the lands between and you're fine butchering everything that moves, but here comes one annoying fella that by calling you "Master" and "Lord" (if you let him call you that, you're as pathetic sort as he is) makes you act as his bodyguard for free and you're fine with it. Why? Because you are a maidenless hypocrite.

                      As far as I'm concerned, lil guy has my wholehearted permission to run to Raya Lucaria. With or without a larval tear, preferably without.

                      • Anonymous

                        You can tell him he's beautiful preemptively, before he ever starts talking crazy **** about wanting to be reborn. This means you'll never even *see* the option to give him a tear, which I prefer. I've done it as early as when I meet him at Altus Highway Junction Site of Grace. (I also use one of the other Pates to tell him "thank you". Poor little bugger works for free and gets glum if I don't let him call me 'lord'...)

                        • Anonymous

                          Another horribly designed quest. A game that teaches you reloading areas does progress, and then kills of the character if you don't think to use a stupid prattle plate or larval tear which you may not have. Both of these could've just been simple dialogue options without an inevitable failstate if you have neither of those items.

                          • Anonymous

                            I savor the ceremonial slaughtering of Boc until the end game. There's killing him then there's what I do. It goes beyond the definition of murder.

                            • Anonymous

                              See him naked on the ground, decides to wait at the nearby grace to see if the quest progresses, and he... dies? What the actual **** that's so annoying!

                              • Anonymous

                                He does as a human because his attributes were reset and he didn't know how to relearn all the skills he had once before.

                                • Anonymous

                                  For some reason after launching the game after month, Boc is not at the usual site of grace (after doing all his quest). And i can't find him. How the **** did he died ?

                                  • Anonymous

                                    The absolute urge to punch the fck out of the guy I feel whenever I see his ugly face.
                                    However I never let my intrusive thoughts win so we're good, he's a nice guy, deserves the best

                                    • Anonymous

                                      I wanna pet him so goddamn bad I unironically think he's adorable like the messengers in bloodborne he's just my emotional support silly guy

                                      • Anonymous

                                        do you.. get like.. anything worth it out of his questline? I mean.. I've never done it cause I could never find that tree.. but.. it seems to me that altering clothing with a few runes that are almost nothing and take no time to farm (like kill a single enemy) is a lot less trouble than going through an entire quest for free clothing altering.

                                        • Anonymous

                                          I didn't know you could still alter garments at a site of grace so I've been killing him on every playthrough. Whoops....

                                          • Anonymous

                                            This comment section is a riot, in one moment you'll see a declaration of love for Boc like he's the second coming of Jesus and in the next you'll see a comment that might as well have been written by the Dung Eater

                                            • Anonymous

                                              I told him he's beautiful. Tarnished never talks, but those few words carry power for the weakest. The real world is cruel enough. I got your back, Boc. Now go & dream good things about your mother as you live.

                                              • Anonymous

                                                I was genuinely sad about the deaths in the DS series. This is a bad joke from someone who's running out of ideas.

                                                • Anonymous

                                                  I have the Greatsword but my game has a glitch where no matter what, I do the fully charged R2 at this little rat and he dies? Like I can't do his quest because he just dies all the time, really weird glitch

                                                  • Build idea. Name a character "Boc reborn", duplicate his human face and poke people with godskin stitcher while wearing nothing but Aristocrat hat

                                                    • Anonymous

                                                      People who hate Boc aren't downvoting positive comments, people who like Boc are downvoting negative comments. Conclusion: People who like Boc are unhinged while people who don't like him seem mostly indifferent to people that do.

                                                      • Anonymous

                                                        boc, my boi... i should've read the wiki before sending you to raya academy ;~;
                                                        i just thought it was what he wanted...

                                                        • Anonymous

                                                          People say this guy isn't trying to manipulate us haven't met someone like this irl.
                                                          Constantly talking about how pathetic, ugly, helpless he is. It's emotional manipulation that's so draining to deal with.
                                                          I don't kill him, but when I get manipulated in this game I would much rather it be some political lore powerplay and not real world bs.

                                                          • Anonymous

                                                            My god, just saying that you are a small tree that stand apart from the bushes, you are not only ugly my man

                                                            • Anonymous

                                                              The Hermit Village (where you get the "You're beautiful" prattling pate is a celebrant Village.

                                                              I think his mother adopted him and the sewing she did was for the Godskin Apostles and Nobles.

                                                              • Anonymous

                                                                I've never killed him, and in fact never sent him to Rennala either, but I do think he's creepy and very likely unhinged. He seems like he's overly attached to the player character. In my experience, people like that can snap at any moment so it makes me very uncomfortable being around him.

                                                                • Anonymous

                                                                  I wished altering garments did a bit more. I’d love to change the colour of my Ranni set or Rya Dress and I always feel so bad never seeing him because I don’t have many alterable garments.

                                                                  • Anonymous

                                                                    Fascinating study in trying so hard to make a character likeable and sympathetic that he just becomes really annoying and pointless.

                                                                    • Anonymous

                                                                      pretty powerful and overlevelled at this point. could quite easy cut boc haters in half. i got your back little mate, thanks for the sick tailoring.

                                                                      • Anonymous

                                                                        Hope he gets new mechanics whe the dlc drops, like changing color of garments, selling a few things and the best would be if he could make some unique clothing, maybe light armor that you need to gather some materials for.

                                                                        • Anonymous

                                                                          Boc haters are the same kind of people like the indian people in comments on monkey videos saying like "Kill it, torture it" like dude, it's just a little guy calm down

                                                                          • Anonymous

                                                                            Hate people to constantly prostrate. What a bum. As a bridge between two species, he should have had a good ending questline where he becomes the king of demi-humans.

                                                                            • Anonymous

                                                                              There is another conversation with Melina that happened at the Highway Junction after you've given Boc the Golden Sewing Needle. She'll say that Boc was crying about his mother in his sleep, and that he just needs someone to say that he's beautiful - literally feeding you the clue you need to get the better outcome. I think this is the only place that can trigger it, since going into the Capital loses any interaction for Melina til Morgott. She might say it earlier in Liurna if you've given him the Golden Needle there, but I gave him the needle at the Junction so someone else can confirm it.

                                                                              • Anonymous

                                                                                Boc: “I wish I could be reborn so I can be a tru pro seamstress!”
                                                                                Me: “ O wait, I know a lady who can do that, I go to her regularly! Here have this” hands larval tear.
                                                                                Boc: you’re the best! A tru boss.
                                                                                Me: goes to Rennala , expecting to see Boc. Spots an underdressed pale man, mute and blank expression but still holding that pos almost out instinct. At that moment remembered that only I had the perfect rebirth rune and the lore of Rennala.

                                                                                “Well Sh!t”

                                                                                • Anonymous

                                                                                  I discovered you can advance to the ending of his quest by using the Prattling Pate “You’re beautiful” in his presence without first having had all the conversation about his wanting to meet with Rennala. I did this because I misunderstood some of the directions here.

                                                                                  • Anonymous

                                                                                    Aww, I wish we could take him to the Roundtable after performing the "You're Beautiful" pate. Give him a nice warm roof over his head.

                                                                                    Yeah, it's gonna need lots of TLC after we burn the Erdtree, but it's better than the Ashen Capital, right?

                                                                                    • Anonymous

                                                                                      aww he´s just like me. Short, ugly, anxious, gets beaten up, 1 friend who he talks to once a month whenever they remember he exists and a not that useful set of skills. I hate him.

                                                                                      • Anonymous

                                                                                        I gave him the tear and then he shows up as human looking near Rennala. He no longer talks though and you can see no interaction, he looks like he's praying to Rennala.

                                                                                        • Anonymous

                                                                                          Worst npc in the game, leave him as a tree for both your sakes. Not even worth engaging with , I can sort my own clothes out thanks.

                                                                                          • Anonymous

                                                                                            I never gave him the Larval Tear because I figured that wasn't the way I wanted to progress his quest, but I didn't really know what else to do. Eventually while exploring Gelmir, I found the prattling pate and immediately went "Wait that's it! I gotta find Boc!" But I couldn't find him anywhere. I eventually just found him dead outside of Rennala's room while doing Sellen's sidequest. I'm sorry I failed you buddy, I really wanted you to be happy.

                                                                                            • Anonymous

                                                                                              I was stuck unable to give him the gold needle because I had already altered Radahn's chest piece myself. I had to UNALTER it and then speak to him again to progress.

                                                                                              • Anonymous

                                                                                                “Ranni dearest, I need to do something before we depart.”

                                                                                                *Goes to collect Boc & Zoraya*

                                                                                                I could never leave them two behind.

                                                                                                • Anonymous

                                                                                                  Bro literally became the perfect twink and then died. He lived the dream of like 1/3 of Twitter's userbase.

                                                                                                  • So, I got into the Ashen Capital, made my way to the grace where Boc usually is, forget to finish his quest (didn't give him the larval tear/ use the prattling pate) and explored the zone. After a while I teleported to Rennala for a quick respec and found him dead at the entrance... Don't be like me, spend a minute with the goodest boy in the game and tell him he's beautiful :(

                                                                                                    • Anonymous

                                                                                                      Ah man. I gave him the tear, I knew it wasn't perfect but I didn't think he would *die*.

                                                                                                      I know I was stupid, but man, every time I get a character I like killed it makes me want to keep playing a little less... Just wanted to help my man out :(

                                                                                                      • Anonymous

                                                                                                        The biggest tragedy of his quest is how useless the modify garments feature is, still, I keep him alive because I'm not a monster.

                                                                                                        • Anonymous

                                                                                                          So if you accidentally take the trapped door to the capitol after giving him the needle in coastal cave, he doesn't appear in liurnia? That's a whack bug.

                                                                                                          • Anonymous

                                                                                                            Tell him he's beautiful then hit this sycophantic hamster with the Giant-Crusher charged R2 for maximum funny.

                                                                                                            • Anonymous

                                                                                                              Boc can not be killed with one hit. He will fight and attack the player.

                                                                                                              Also, Boc is the same height as the Tarnished. He just looks small because he is always hunched over and on his knees. If you kneel down next to him, sit with him, lay next to him in the Coastal Cave, or even get him to attack you; you can see he’s the same height.

                                                                                                              • Anonymous

                                                                                                                If you accidentally give him Larva Tear, you could still use "You're Beautiful" Prattling Pate to make him stay before resting at the grace

                                                                                                                • Tried this quest end game. The capital is already ash. Can’t find him anywhere after i gave him the needle at coastal cave. Too late to finish or am I missing something?

                                                                                                                  • Anonymous

                                                                                                                    even though his behaviour might seem pathetic, this is one of the very few trustsome NPCs who actually treat you decently from the start without the need of licking someone else's boots, along only with Roderika, Rya & Alexander, also being the very first one to acknowledge you as a lord even before you actually procceed to become one, he shows concern for your wellbeing from the very start as he intended to "save you" from the demi-human cave, and then shows immense gratitude after you succeed, despite his rather pitiful-sounding behaviour, which me and most people just shrug off because, much like Alexander, Roderika & Rya, the guy is a real one, unlike most NPCs which are all either male simps (i.e Seluvis & Blaidd), female simps (i.e Fia & Tanith), untrustsome sneaky bastards (i.e Gostoc, Patches & Ensha), generally unlikeable unethical outlaws who also treat you terribly and act cocky (i.e Blackguard Big Boggart), bipolar weirdos who decide to attack you for seemingly no reason, out of nowhere and all of a sudden (i.e Bernahl, Diallos & Edgar), egocentric fools who expect you to "earn" their "respect" after not having completely underestimated, disregarded, mistreated and not trusted you at all, on top of ALSO acting cocky (i.e "great" Kenneth Height & Hewg) or people who blatantly manipulate you from the very start for their own selfish goals or to lick someone else's boots instead (i.e Varre, Corhyn, Sellen, Shabribi, Melina, Rann, Gideon Ofnir, etc), and the other ones are EXTREMELY forgettable, plain blank characters with not much to them (i.e Diallos, Iji, Irina, Nepheli Loux, D Hunter of the Dead, Yura, Latenna, etc).

                                                                                                                    so ngl, it actually boggles my mind that so many people seem to dislike Boc this much only because of his "please mother forgive me for existing" behaviour when he is one of the very few characters that treat you decently just for the sake of doing it, unconditionably, while manipulating, smug, egocentric, cocky bastards like Melina, Ranni, Blaidd and even Patches get the praises.

                                                                                                                    • Anonymous

                                                                                                                      It was my intention thst he's be the most likable npc in the game. He is based roughly on someone I used to know - the best possible version - and that is why everyone else is as bad as they are. I've never based a personality on anything in rl apart from him, so I guess he is the most realistic character in all of literature, and Elden Ring the most realistic setting. The theme tune for Elden Ring is 'Sleeping On Trains'.

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