Boc the Seamster

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Location Limgrave
Role Garments Adjuster and
Quest NPC
Voiced by Calvin A. Dean

Boc the Seamster is an NPC in Elden RingBoc is a Demi-Human who is capable of advanced communication. Boc is initially met by the player in the form of a small tree.

Once you have completed Boc's questline, he appears at Graces in the Altus Plateau, and allows you to Alter equipment without paying the standard 500 rune fee. Boc does not provide any new or different alterations. 

 

Boc the Seamster, at your service.
Ready to make adjustments to your garments.

Boc the Seamster Location in Elden Ring

Boc the Seamster can be found in multiple locations:

  1. Boc the Seamster is first encountered east of the telescope that is south of Agheel Lake North Site of Grace in Limgrave. He is disguised as a small tree and will call out to you upon approaching. [Map Link]
  2. After meeting him the first time, Boc will move to the Coastal Cave in western Limgrave. You will find him on the ground right next to the Site of Grace. [Map Link]
    • After giving Boc the Seamster the Sewing Needle at this second location, he will be able to appear at the following remaining four locations, depending on furthest Site of Grace that the player has rested at. Resting at any of the Site of Graces listed below will make him appear there, in ascending order. 
  3. He can be found kneeling by the Lake-Facing Cliffs Site of Grace, north of Stormveil Castle in Liurnia of the Lakes.  You have to rest at the Lake-Facing Cliffs Site of Grace for him to appear. [Map Link]
  4. He can be found kneeling by the East Raya Lucaria Gate Site of Grace (southwest most point of the Bellum Road). You have to rest at the East Raya Lucaria Gate Site of Grace for him to appear. Map Link
  5. He can be found kneeling by the Altus Highway Junction Site of Grace in Altus Plateau. You have to rest at the Altus Highway Junction Site of Grace for him to appear. [Map Link]
  6. He can be found kneeling by the East Capital Rampart Site of Grace in Leyndell Royal Capital. You have to rest at the East Capital Rampart Site of Grace for him to appear. Map Link
  7. The questline now branches in one of three ways. You can either:
  8. After choosing the "You're Beautiful" branch, telling him he's beautiful when he asks and making progress in Leyndell, Boc relocates to the East Capital Rampart Site of Grace.

 

Boc the Seamster Questline: How to complete Boc the Seamster's Quest

First Encounter

Upon first encounter,  northwest of the Murkwater Bridge, Boc is disguised as a tree and calling for help. If you perform an attack on the tree, the spell breaks and Boc returns to its original form. He will then narrate how he was expelled from his cave and had everything he owned taken, humbly rewarding you with x10 Mushrooms, which is everything he currently has. However, he states that if you wait, he could sneak back into the cave and retrieve some of his belongings, which could make him useful to you.

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Second Encounter

The second encounter with Boc is at Coastal Cave, within a few steps into the entrance tunnel, right besides the Coastal Cave Site of Grace. [Map Link] He is lying on the floor as he's been beaten up when trying to recover his belongings. In order to help him you must venture inside the cave. But beware, however, as there are many Demi-Humans ahead, and these creatures tend to attack in groups.
At one point in Coastal Cave you'll reach the Demi-Humans' settlement, where you will encounter even more enemies and two Demi-Human Chief bosses. Upon defeat, these Bosses will drop Boc's belongings:

Go back to Boc The Seamster at Coastal Cave's entrance and deliver the tools to him. He will thank you and after you move, he'll no longer be at that location.

NOTE: It is also fine to defeat the Demi-Human Chiefs first and then encounter Boc by the Murkwater Bridge afterwards. Exhaust his dialogue and then return to the cave to give him the sewing materials.

 

Third Encounter

You can later find Boc The Seamster at the Lake-Facing Cliffs Site of Grace in Liurnia of the Lakes. He is glad to see you and offers to make adjustments to your garments. 

  • From now on, he will be able to alter the garments of the player.
  • Some armor pieces can be changed to an alternative design. This service is free of charge. This will lower the stats of the affected armor piece, but for the most part is cosmetic as the stat drop is generally very minor. (This function basically removes the cape from armor pieces.)

His quest can be continued if these three conditions are met:

  1. Retrieve the Gold Sewing Needle from the Church of Vows on the east side of Liurnia of the Lakes.
  2. Buy at least one piece of legendary boss armor that can be altered from Finger Reader Enia at the Roundtable Hold. Note that only demigod armor counts as "legendary", so armor such as Briar Armor won't work despite being alterable and sold by Enia. 
  3. You have spoken to Melina about Boc at the East Raya Lucaria Gate Site of Grace.

This enables the option to give him the Gold Sewing Needle, which makes it possible to alter legendary armor as well. If you do not have the option to give him the gold sewing needle then, either:

  1. You do not have the Gold Sewing Needle in your inventory
  2. You do not have legendary armor that can be altered in your inventory. Remember, like all the other (non-boss) armor found in the game, not all of it can be altered. Same rule applies to Boc and the gold needle. In addition, only armor worn by demigods is considered legendary.

NOTE: You can skip seeing him here and still find him at later at different locations, depending on progress.

 

Fourth Encounter

Boc will leave the Lake-Facing Site of Grace after Accessing Raya Lucaria Academy and move to the East Raya Lucaria Gate Site of Grace. After speaking with him here and resting at the Site of Grace, you will then have the option to speak with Melina, who will remark on Boc.

NOTE: You can skip seeing him here and still find him at later at different locations, depending on progress.

 

Fifth Encounter

He can be found at Altus Plateau at the Altus Highway Junction Site of Grace.

NOTE: You can skip seeing him here and still find him at later at different locations, depending on progress.

 

Sixth Encounter

He can be found at Altus Plateau next to the East Capital Ramparts Site of Grace.

If not done at this point, this is the last location Boc the Seamster will appear and stay at, until giving him the Gold Sewing Needle.

If he now (or at any other possible location before) received the Gold Sewing Needle, his quest will continue and he will remark about his ugly appearance and asks your opinion on it. He will imply his desire to be rebirthed by Rennala.

You have different choices how to proceed:

  • You can give him a Larval Tear, and upon resting, he will move next to Rennala. He will be reborn into a human form, and he will not respond when talked to. If you rest again, he will die.
  • Alternatively, you can perform the "You're Beautiful" Prattling Pate in front of him (found in Hermit Village at Mt.Gelmir), then discuss it.
  • Using the Prattling Pate in front of him removes the option to give him a Larval Tear. Choose either to give him a Larval Tear OR use the Prattling Pate.

Dialogue in Elden Ring: Boc The Seamster

Introduction

  • "Oi! You there! Could you help us out, cully?
    You, yeah, you there! Stop pretending you can't see me".
  • "Why won't anyone look me in the eye?
    I'm not that ugly".

If attacking the tree in which Boc was turned into

  • "Ow! What'd you go and do that for!
    Hm? Oh, yes, I remember. Some clod turned me into a tree.
    You were just breaking the spell, weren't you.
    Thank you. The name's Boc.
    I was pushed out of the cave. Told not to come back, not ever.
    Then I ended up as a tree.
    Lucky you came along, really.
    Boc the seamster, at your service, Master".
  • "Oh, what a shame.
    When they threw me out of the cave, they took everything I owned, and so this is all I have to express my thanks.
    I hope you can forgive me".
    [Hands over x10 Mushroom]
  • "Or, if you can afford to wait for a while, I could sneak back into the cave, and bring back something of actual value.
    Then I'd be of some real use to you, I reckon".
  • "Right, but I'll need a moment.
    I-I'm frightened of them... So I have to gather myself.
    My knees start knockin'...just thinking bout that god-awful cave on the shore".

At Coastal Cave

  • "Oh... It...hurts..."
  • "Oh, what are you doing here?
    You must leave this place at once. They'll rush in and beat you to a pulp.
    You'll end up just like me".

Visit

  • "Boc the Seamster, at your service.
    Ready to make adjustments to your garments".

Giving the Sewing Needle

  • "Wait, is that what I think it is? You got it back for me? My sewing needle!
    What made you go and do a thing like that....
    My mum was a seamstress...and that sewing kit was all I had to remember her by.
    I always wanted to be just like sweet old Mum.  Then, I suppose I-I can't just curl up and die, can I?"

After receiving the Sewing Needle

  • "Thank you. You're very kind".

At Lake-Facing Cliffs Site of Grace

  • "Good to see you! Master. Do you remember me? Boc, the demi-human. You helped me before, and retrieved my sewing needle.
    Please, master. Allow me to serve you, as your seamster. I can't make nothing from scratch, but...
    I'm happy to make adjustments to your garments".
    • [Don't tell me...]
      • "Master, I was wondering... Do you ever...make adjustments to your garb yourself? I would, well, rather you let me do the job when possible, please. I don't ask anything in return, you know, and, well... I am your personal seamster, after all!".

Did you see it? At East Capital Rampart

  • "Master, did  you see it? Th-the Erdtree? I, oh, I don't really have the words for this...But I was so dazzled, I felt something stir, in my breast. The Erdtree is waiting for you, Master. I know it, I do. I feel it in my bones". 

Leaving

  • "Oh, going so soon? Please, do be safe on your journey".

I'm sorry...

  • "Your wardrobe includes the garb of old demigods, and I'm afraid I can't make adjustments to them.
    My mum told me once. That a royal seamster would do them up in a jiffy.
    Just wait, master. Before long, I'll be that good, too!"

After receiving the Gold Sewing Needle

  • "Thank you kindly. But what on earth could it... Oh!
    Amazing! I've never seen a golden needle, not in all my life! With a spectacular royal crest, to boot...

    Are you certain that this is for me? Oh, I can hardly believe it.
    Have faith in me, Master! I'll polish my craft enough that I deserve this golden gift!
    I'll be the golden seamster, Boc! Now I'll be able to sew anything, even the threads of the demigods!"

I have a favor to ask

  • "Would you mind if I called you lord? I heard that you and the other Tarnished seek the throne of the Elden Lord.
    Well, I know that you will be the one, and you'd make just the manner of kind hearted lord that I'd wish for.
    So, please, if you would. Allow me to call you lord."
  • (If you say yes): "M'lord, m'lord, m'lord! Please become Elden Lord.
    And please, let I, Boc the seamster, remain at your side."
    [You receive the "My Lord" Gesture]

Surely she'd be happy for you?

  • "That I'm as good as any royal seamster, now. Oh, it's still not enough.
    I need to learn how to sew from scratch, like her."

Have you ever thought so?

  • "Well, they say that Rennala of Raya Lucaria has the power to help people be reborn.
    Oh? Me? Reborn? Oh, look at me. When you're this ugly... well being reborn? It would hardly make a difference, I'm afraid."

What do you really think?

  • "In all honesty, what do you think of me? Am I fit to serve a lord such as you, in all my ugliness?
    Must I be reborn, no matter what ill fate awaits me?
    Oh, I'm such a fool. I don't even have answers to the simplest of questions"

After receiving a Larval Tear

  • "Oh! Oh! It can't be... For my rebirth? But these are precious, are you certain that it's for me?
    Oh... M'lord how did you know? It was my only wish, that I might honour you with a decent appearance."

Please wait

  • "I'm off to see Rennala of Raya Lucaria. I'll be reborn, fresh and new."

After hearing the Prattling Pate "You're Beautiful"

  • "Thank you very much. Mum was always the only one who said I was beautiful.
    And now, my dear lord let me hear her voice. Please, if I may dream, just once...
    Do you feel the same way my mum did m'lord? Do you think I'm beautiful, despite these looks?"
  • (If you say yes): "M'lord, my dear lord...
    I, Boc the seamster, am forever in your service. May the throne of Elden Lord be yours."
  • (If you say no): "No, why on earth would you? It was silly of me to ask. Please, forget that I did. But I beg, don't renounce me for my appearance. One day, I'll look every bit the servant."
    • [The voice was mine.]
      • "Master... kind Master... I, Boc the Seamster, am forever in your service."

When attacked

  • (Before starting his quest) "Mum... I've... I've let you down"
  • (Warning) "Ow! M-m'lord? Is something wrong? It's me! Boc, the seamster!"
  • (Combat) "Oh, my... M'lord, is that the truth, your heart of hearts? My, oh my... Ah... aaah!"
  • (On player kill) "M'lord... What have I done?"

Upon defeat

  • "M'lord... I've failed you... please, forgive me."

 

Elden Ring Notes & Trivia for Boc

  • Voiced by Actor Calvin A. Dean
  • Boc was featured in the Elden Ring Network Test at the same location.
  • Boc wears the Aristocrat Hat and uses the Great Knife during combat.
  • Boc can be killed with one hit. Once killed, Boc will not respawn, even after using Celestial Dew.
  • Despite Boc's questline involving you turning over the Sewing Needle and Tailoring Tools, you are still able to perform alterations at any Site of Grace, as the Tailoring Tools will stay in your inventory. Boc will offer the same services, simply as an alternative.
    • The advantage of alterations done by Boc over a Site of Grace is that Boc will not charge you for altering clothing. Using the Tailoring Tools at a site of grace will cost Runes each time an alteration is made.
  • Once you obtain a demi-god armor set, you can ask Boc why he does not offer altering demi-god's garments with the "I'm sorry..." option. He will then provide input as to why he doesn't alter those garments due to what his mother used to tell him, and that maybe he may become good enough to do so someday.
  • Thanks to the latest Patch, he is easier to find in Limgrave, now that his voice triggers from a farther distance from before. An Arteria Leaf was also placed near him to lure players to hear him.

What Garments can you Alter in Elden Ring?

Specific Helmets and Body Armor pieces in Elden Ring can be altered when have the required Items for altering. You will need a Sewing Needle and Tailoring Tools to be able to perform alterations to your basic garments. The Gold Sewing Needle is required in order to be able to alter demigod armor pieces.

Both Sewing Needle and Tailoring Tools items can be obtained from the Demi-Human Chief, located in Coastal Cave, western LimgraveMap Link. This is a boss encounter. Defeat the Demi-Human Chief and it will drop these items. With these tools you can now rest at any Site of Grace to access your options and you should have the option to Alter Garments. This should display your Armor pieces before and after Alterations. Select which garment to alter. Altering will also cost runes, so make sure you are happy with the alterations before confirming. Altering your garments with Boc, however, will be free, but you will need to progress through his questline before this action is available. 

To gain access to Boc's altering services, go through his questline until he moves to the Lake Facing Cliffs Site of Grace. You will first need to locate him northwest of the Murkwater Bridge, Boc is disguised as a tree and calling for help. If you perform an attack on the tree, the spell breaks and Boc returns to its original form. You will then need to give him the Sewing Needle and Tailoring Tools. He will be at the Coastal Cave. After giving him his supplies he will then move to Liurnia of the Lakes where the Lake-Facing Cliffs Site of Grace is. He will now offer his seamster services to you for free.

 

Boc the Seamster Lore

 

 

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    • I wish they put this good dog in ranni's ending. Imagine ranni with 4 arms pet this boy and 3 of us going to thousand year journey to the dark moon. That would have been a great ending.

      • Anonymous

        Fascinatingly repulsive. A semi truck chock full of Larval Tears would amount to about 1% of the required effort to make this creature 1% less spit-in-the-face-able.

        • Anonymous

          I love this lil guy so much, ugh. I wanna hug him and kiss him and tell him he's beautiful every single time I see him. He deserves all the love in the world.

          • Anonymous

            Souls games need a crafting system for armour sets, and this guy would be the perfect test subject for it IMO.

            Imagine regular enemies dropping their armour pieces just like normal, but they also had a much greater chance to drop generic themed 'scraps' (Radahn soldiers / knights would drop Redmane armour scraps, for instance). Tie this to Witcher-style armour set diagrams you can find in the world and give to Boc. Handing over a diagram unlocks the ability for Boc to make the pieces of the set out of the relevant scraps - all you'd need is enough scraps for the piece you want.

            In addition to giving Boc a proper use, this would solve the much bigger and longer-standing problem of trying to farm for a set and ending up with several copies of everything except the one piece you actually want. Diagram + scraps also dropped while farming = you'll get the piece you want / the whole set one way or another eventually.

            • Anonymous

              hate this filth so much, the neediness, the patheticness the fact he wants to call you 'lord' ****ing die you disgusting parasite

              • Anonymous

                thing is he's a bit useless, his whole thing can be done by the player once tailoring tools are found, which can be instantly obtained mind you. I doubt the hate would be half as bad if he'd actually do something unique/useful. For example, have him go off to forage things like dragonflys and cavemoss, he seems adept at finding mushrooms and traveling, it'll certainly save me some busywork. His tailoring system should've more fleshed out too, changing fabric colors, adding/removing armor segments, make it so he can do more than cloak removal. I like the little rat fella, but he's a useless rat fella.

                • Anonymous

                  I can't accept the fact I'm not able to give Boc the Seluvis' potion. I wanna have a Boc puppet. Imagine he being summoned at cost of 1 FP and dealing 90 of standard damage per hit, 35 of poison buildup per hit, 900 HP at +10 and keep running away from the boss 75% of the time, laying down on the ground in fetal pose when hit to avoid attention. When at 20% of HP or less, he should be on his knees and plead for mercy; at 10% HP or less, he should keep quiet in fetal pose on the ground being invisible to the boss, perfect for you to heal him and put him back into combat. He would be the most durable spirit ashes of all if not oneshoted at low HP.

                  • Anonymous

                    In my native language boc (written with a k instead of c, but read the same) means ****. Such a fitting name for this character.

                    • Anonymous

                      Boc gets excited when you order him to alter some equipment for you because that way he can sniff his lord's wearings remains. But he does not like it when you order him to give you your clothes back. He long to make a great colection for his personal Elden Lord Gallery. He plans to open a museum in the future with pieces of equipment used by the Lord during his journey. Boc does his services for "free" because his payment is your smell and the items he will use to sell entrances to his Elden Lord Gallery in Bocland, his own province, given to him by his lord and friend.

                      • Anonymous

                        what are these anti-boc comments bro. He does not deserve this. just let him make your armour slightly worse and be happy

                        • Anonymous

                          I'm just saying, if he was so harmless and pathetic then he shouldn't fight back when the playable character attacks. It just cements the fact that it is a disgusting wild rabid monkey that deserves nothin' but a cullin'

                          • Anonymous

                            The voice acting doesnt do him any justice. The actor himself isn't bad, but the tone comes off as if Boc is always sarcastic.

                            • Anonymous

                              Completely gentle, helpful, and kind. He does what he can and never asks for anything in return. A role model of sorts. If everyone in the world was as decent as Boc there wouldn't be any need for any lords, Elden or otherwise.

                              • Anonymous

                                What an annoying character! I still remember running around to find something hidden as a bush talking to you with that pretensional, british accent. Awful.

                                • Anonymous

                                  i still remember that i never found him in my first playthrough as he was hidden so well amongst the bushes and trees.

                                  Nowadays me, him and the Pope Turtle Miriel are besties everytime i play a new game.

                                  • Anonymous

                                    I feel really smart now as I actually noticed how different his bush looked compared to the other trees in the area. I found him without having to look it up.

                                    • Anonymous

                                      I enjoy fromsoft and their games, but the questlines are way too vague an obscure. I mean who the F would think to use you're beautiful pate on the dude? I mean wtf over. This and every other quest....vague. It's how they do things i know, but I think it's crap.

                                      • Anonymous

                                        It would be interesting if Boc hangged himself and let a letter for us near his corpse saying he don't wanna live anymore as a demi-human. In the same drop you should find a Boc's spirit ashes. His ashes would attack with low AR and lay down on the ground at every hit to avoid Boss attention.

                                        • Anonymous

                                          I'm actually quite upset. I didn't realize that i had to use the pate. Gotta hurry up my run and become a better lord for him in NG+

                                          • Anonymous

                                            I didn't use the Prattling Pate neither gave him a Larval Tear and he appeared dead outside Rennala's arena by the elevator.

                                            • Anonymous

                                              When I see him I like say his name like a chicken Boc Boc Boc. He hates it but it's all in good fun I told him, don't get so upset I say.

                                              • Anonymous

                                                In this new playthrough, I swear upon my name I shall not leave Boc the hamster alive. I shall kick him down a cliff without showing any trace of compassion or regret; for Boc is a hornsent in disguise.

                                                • Anonymous

                                                  Stupid game. I did the "youre beautiful" thing when Melina told me he wanted to hear it. Apparently thats one step too early and didnt register. So he just fekking died for nothing and I lost a larval tear

                                                  • Anonymous

                                                    Boc, wait a second that’s the initials for the Bed of Chaos. They tricked us all by thinking they are lovable but in reality they are a garbage boss.

                                                    • Anonymous

                                                      Okay how was I supposed to guess that this would be the only quest where I don't get a dialogue option to lift his spirits but need to use a pate.

                                                      RIP Boc, you deserved a better lord

                                                      • Anonymous

                                                        Pour another flask for another accidental Larval Tear branch. Boc, your innocence knew no bounds, and my stupidity told me to put away all of the prattling pates (so also knows no bounds). I threw myself at Malenia's Hand as punishment.

                                                        • Anonymous

                                                          Chat I just curb stomped lil bro. He never had a chance. Nor had front teeth for that matter. Rip lil bro, rip.

                                                          • Anonymous

                                                            No, friend. It is I who will be forever in your service. A Lord is there to serve his subjects after all.

                                                            • Anonymous

                                                              "I was kicked out of the cave. Told not to come back, not ever."

                                                              Wait wait wait, TOLD "not to come back"? The only way Boc could honestly tell you this is if he can speak to both demi-humans and regular humans. He's literally the translator / mediator Kenneth Haight wants to be, and doesn't even seem to realise how important that is - it's essentially Haight's main selling point as a noble worth serving, if only he could figure out how to do it, and here's Boc just casually mentioning he's capable of exactly that.

                                                              What does Boc get for his talents? Made homeless and then a tree. The Lands Between make negative sense even by videogame logic standards.

                                                              • Anonymous

                                                                For all the people like me that got confused. Giving him a larval tear and then calling him beatiful once he transformed, does not work, he will just die anyway. Just use the prate in front of him and do not give him the larval tear.
                                                                You were too precious Boc, sorry i dissappointed you yet again, you deserve a better Lord.

                                                                • Anonymous

                                                                  Find him disguised as a tree then say he is beautiful. Don't hit the tree, let him there for ever. He will call for help but let him in that way. He is a demi-human, they can disguise as trees and transform back, Boc may be able to do it too. Let him find out how to comr back to demi-human form. I think Kenneth should encounter Boc, a civilized demi-human and make him a lord, the lord of demi-humans, and give him a piece of lend to rule, a place for the demi-humans to call home.

                                                                  • Anonymous

                                                                    I honestly think it’s sad how people don’t recognize the actual point of Boc’s quest. It’s hardly about the garment alterations in my opinion. It’s more narratively important.This is a person who lives life as one of the discriminated in the lands between. This is a chance to learn narratively that not all the Demi humans and, indeed, not all spurned by grace are monsters. It’s a chance to learn how to become more human and to remember that your goal of becoming Elden lord should be a noble one. His purpose is to learn more about the moral ambiguity of the game. It saddens me to see people wanting to kill him because he mechanically is simple. When narratively he actually serves quite an important role.

                                                                    • Anonymous

                                                                      The funniest thing about Boc is that the mere memory of him is enough to agitate edgelords. It's hilarious that they're so bothered by his very existence that they NEED to brag about killing him.

                                                                      • Anonymous

                                                                        I wish it was possible to ask him to collect crafting items for me. It would be MUCH more useful than altering clothes while saving a measly 500 runes. When we met him he gives you some mushrooms and I was like: oh my please give me more buddy

                                                                        • Anonymous

                                                                          "This quest is worthless!"

                                                                          OK, let's look at it another way. If he handed you, say, a Lands Between Rune at the end of it, would you say it's worthless? Probably less likely that you would IMO. And here's the thing: that's worth only 6 clothing alterations. How many times have you changed something yourself, decided you don't like it (or got to the point where it needn't be as light as possible any more) and changed it back?

                                                                          It might be 'only 500 runes', but the small amount per alteration is exactly why it can add up to quite a lot over the course of a playthrough without it being noticed. Getting the ability to do it for free so early in the game is especially useful since, while not a lot, 500 runes isn't an amount you want to throw away for no reason at the very beginning.

                                                                          • Anonymous

                                                                            i just wanna take my god given hands and give him the largest warmest most loving bear hug known to the lands between

                                                                            • I feel like they made this entire quest and then at the last minute said "Wait, altering armor isn't THAT cool" and just shoved the Golden Tailoring Tools in the game. Unfortunate really. Poor Boc

                                                                              • Anonymous

                                                                                You don't need to talk to him even once in order to be able to alter garments with the gold sewing needle.

                                                                                • Anonymous

                                                                                  He was my best friend in my head canon. And I just wanted to help by giving him the Larval Tear.

                                                                                  Why would Michael Zaki do this to me?!?

                                                                                  • Anonymous

                                                                                    In order to enter the capital, you need two great runes: Boc enters the capital before the player as their location appears before the player gets to that area.
                                                                                    So that means, boc has slain at least 2 demigods or has 2 or more greatrunes.

                                                                                    • Anonymous

                                                                                      but why does he die if you dont use the prattle!? was yhe transformation that rough that he cant handle it unless you call him beautiful?

                                                                                      • Anonymous

                                                                                        If you talk to Boc in the Capital without having Prattling Pate's "You're Beautiful", you are NOT screwed! As long as you do not use a Grace at all and can make the journey around Mount Gelmir to Hermit Village, you can grab "You're Beautiful" and ride all the way back then use it successfully to save Boc's life. He will not go away or die unless you use a Grace (or die while trying to loop through the Hermit Village). I just did this on my game it worked.

                                                                                        • Anonymous

                                                                                          This little guys quest is bugged. I've followed all the steps, and even all the troubleshooting steps.
                                                                                          I've told this guy he's beautiful more than I've told my wife of 13 years. Sorry little guy, but hopefully someone else will come along and you'll believe THEM, but I have to find someone who appreciates me

                                                                                          • Anonymous

                                                                                            there is no benefit for having him live... roleplaying singleplayer game is redditor worthy of cringe and he actually does nothing useful imho

                                                                                            • Anonymous

                                                                                              Don't worry little buddy, once I become Lord of Frenzy I will incinerate all that divides and distinguishes, then It won't matter if you're beautiful or not.

                                                                                              • Anonymous

                                                                                                You are really beautiful, my friend, but too sad that im remember bout you only on my frenzied flame ending playthroughs, im really sorry lil bro.

                                                                                                • Anonymous

                                                                                                  I always make sure to tell Boc he's beautiful, because everyone deserves the chance to find some happiness before CHAOS TAKES THE WORLD!!!!!! Just saying.

                                                                                                  • Anonymous

                                                                                                    I first got in to elden ring through r/yiff where I was finding a lot of how steamy wet work incorporating sir boc. I now aim to pole arm boc every play through!

                                                                                                    • Anonymous

                                                                                                      I... accidentally made Boc die. Right as I was going to finally use the prattling pate after getting the "What do you really think" dialogue, I noticed that he was gone.
                                                                                                      ****, I'm so sorry little guy.

                                                                                                      • Anonymous

                                                                                                        Ahh a fresh new playthough, today I shall kill Boc by kicking it until it staggers and then use throwing knives to chip away at it until it cries out for mama. Love this game!

                                                                                                        • Anonymous

                                                                                                          first playthru i gave Boc a larval tear so every playthru since ive made sure to tell him hes beautiful. I do it all for Boc, I am one of Bocs champions

                                                                                                          • Anonymous

                                                                                                            Boc is criminally underrated, he is probably my favourite souls character and needs to be protected at all cost. i dont understand why more people dont talk about him.

                                                                                                            • Anonymous

                                                                                                              I used to think he was voiced over by Rex from Xenoblade Chronicles 2's voice actor. Their voices are so similar!

                                                                                                              • Anonymous

                                                                                                                I tried to get him to ask me if he's beautiful after I had him alter the Demi god armor but I'm stuck after I let him call me Lord. Any tips?

                                                                                                                • Anonymous

                                                                                                                  I don’t tell him that he is beautiful, since for the people i truly care about, I don’t lie, boc is ugly, but idc if he is, I like him all the same.

                                                                                                                  • Anonymous

                                                                                                                    Lmao this is the most cringe comment section in gaming history. The only character who doesn’t betray you in any way and genuinely cares for the PC and people hate on him.

                                                                                                                    • Anonymous

                                                                                                                      so he does the bare minimum of armor alteration for free and that's cool, but who're you paying 500 runes to when you do the altering yourself???

                                                                                                                      • Anonymous

                                                                                                                        Well I saw him as a human, realized he was going to die, and told him he was beautiful. Whether he interprets that as he was always beautiful, or he succeeded in becoming beautiful before he died from his own (and my) mistake, there's a sort of sad symmetry there, and I am bittersweet satisfied.

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