Carian Slicer | Elden Ring Wiki

On the one hand, I'm still salty that we only get one real weapon catalyst.


On the other, we get some of the most fun melee magic spells I've played with in souls games.


So, six in one, half a dozen in another

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I wasn't a believer in this until Fire Giant. This goes so hard there. Also, part of the reason I didn't like it is the delay when you start casting, but you can use a running attack to bypass the delay.

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What do you think it's like to lick it

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Why tf do you have cancer like pata that does 120 poise damage when this costs fp & does absolute fk all.

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Not sure if it's intentional or a bug, but carian slicer seems to consume extra FP when performed as a running jump attack after running for a certain period of time. Tested on version 1.15, after running for a second or two, a single jumping attack would spend 8 FP instead of 4.

tested using the carian glinstone staff, with no talismans/effects that will affect FP cost on

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Nice to use until you get Moonlight Greatsword or Moonveil at +8

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Used this to kill Promised Consort Radahn.

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close enough. welcome back dark moon blade buffed raw +10 dagger.

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Cuts through shields like a hot knife through butter

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Tired of that nasty delay when casting from neutral? Just crouch right before you cast!

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Is the model used for the visual effect an available weapon? What about for the glintblade sorceries?

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The Carian Slicer. One of the sorceries of the Carian royal family. Not as clumsy or random as a Comet. An elegant sorcery, for a more... civilized age.

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hmmm how good is this on Carian Sorcery sword? Cause I'm wondering if the blade and the magic blade is hitting at the same time.

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best int melee kek

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They need to reduce the damage of this by 50% at least.

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Does Slicer proc Wiinged sword insignia or millicents prosthesis?

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I tested using rotten wing sword insignia with carian slicer it takes 5 hits to activate 6% buff and 10 hits to activate 13% buff. Interestingly I didnt see any 8% buff inbetween.

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Anons when talking about melee weapons: "Just use the fun one bro, ignore what's OP"
Anons when talking about spells: "Why would I wanna use any spell when this OP **** exists?"

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Wish this was more expensive to incentivize using literally any other sorceries.

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I really don't get the infatuation people have with this spell. In terms of efficiency, it's objectively worse than just using a weapon. In terms of dps and safety, it's objectively worse than spamming ranged projectiles like comet.
If I really want to melee as a mage, why wouldn't I just use a normal weapon, enchant it with sacred blade or whatever and hit with that? More damage, less mana used, might even have some other benefit like bleed. Same exact situation otherwise.

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can't believe that DLC didn't even add any melee spells

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WHAT WERE THEY THINKING?????!!!!!
what were they THINKING?!
I dunno what they were thinking
THE **** WERE THEY THINKING?!!!!

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This spell is great and all, but I cant really bring myself to use it. I'm replaying with int/faith after a pure strength build to get the ranged mage experience, and this kinda defeats that purpose. Especially when my SoNaF costs zero FP to swing.

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This is the most fp efficient sorcery, but not the most efficient spell as the article says.
This has an MV of 180 for 4 fp, giving a dmg/fp ratio of 45. Discus of light has an MV of 150 for 3 fp, giving a dmg/fp ratio of 50, or 100 if it hits on the way back.

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From my testing it takes 6 consecutive hits to proc JUST the first level of sword insigna (or milli's prosthesis) buff. Is it even worth it? Most mobs won't let you land that many hits in a row, not consistently at least.

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With this, you get the length of a straightsword (some greatswords too), with the speed of a dagger, and it ignores shields. Not to mention, it is very cheap to cast, with impeccable damage.

This has got to be one of the most effective spells in the game.

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Mind you this spell has a *moveset*. It has a roll attack, backstep attack, sprinting attack, and can be used while jumping.

I've used this for an entire 5 minutes and I'm already in love with it.

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Gold tracer ahh spell

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Costs as much as a chunk of sht and melts everything like butter

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I can imagine something like this being insanely fun with a dagger-like moveset. Not even as an AoW, just as an alternate 2-handed move set (the way DS3 handled its paired weapons).

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This, and all other melee spells, proc the Winged Sword Insignia buff.
And i do mean ALL of them, even Gavel of Haima, the giant hammer, procs the buff if you land consecutive hits

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radagon deleter

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Is this considered Slash Attack,?

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I know this spell is already ridiculous, but I would love if it got a guard counter. Rocking a magic knight build with magic shield and a right-handed staff would be fun. I know it won't happen, but a man can dream.

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Wish we had this as an ash of war. I would love going full aquamarine dagger mode.

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Does it works with sword insignia and millicent's prosthesis?

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good for a vergil cosplay

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This spell feels almost l

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proof leveling mind is a psyop invented by miyazaki to keep mage damage in check. DONT GIVE IN TO THE LIES! THE ONLY STATS YOU NEED ARE VIGOR AND INTELLIGENCE

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"TrAsH SpELL siNcE tHe NeRf" -somebody who clearly has not used the spell since the nerf

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Cheap, fast and strong. One of my favs and one of the best spells, I love it

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Knights will see thou cast carian slicer and sayeth: He is too frail to wield a real sword

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Carian blender

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who cares about the nerf, I honestly think it was a bit necessary. I still use it and it's still very viable in a sorcery build, just not broken like it was before

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They should have increased recovery in-between attacks or increased FP cost by a few points. If I'm spending FP on essentially a standard longsword attack, it should hit harder then an actual longsword

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why do pve-only players complain about pvp-only nerfs? i stg none of yall can read

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offhand rapier spam but magic

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why do pve-only players complain about pvp-only nerfs? i stg none of yall can read

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offhand rapier spam but magic

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10 Aug 2023
I think what people are trying to say is that this spell is easily overtaken by Catch Flame, since Catch Flame does way more damage and poise damage than Carian Slicer at the same speed.
Carian Slicer already got a 20% damage nerf in 1.08 which is way too much, I agree it was OP, but it didn't have to be nerfed that much while Catch Flame remains the same, now the only way to make this spell viable is to use Lusat/Regal staff with Carian Glinstone staff off-hand since it boosts melee sorceries damage, but otherwise the damage of that spell isn't that good. And losing direct trades against fast thrusting weapons isn't what I would call a fair change, especially for battle mages.

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Well, they indirectly nerfed this spell. Not that anything changed besides a slight poise damage increase, but now that all other weapons do significantly more poise damage, you'll often find you're losing direct trades. This is probably a fair change, and besides, you could always follow up your slice with a Gavel. It's become a pretty good mix-up. Slicer then either Piercer to roll-catch or Gavel to hyperamor through if they commit.

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Trash spell since the nerf

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Did they buffed the poise damage of this spell?

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Silver Mirrorshield is a decent counter for this.

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I don't care about the nerf. I am the storm that is approaching

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"Has the highest magic damage per FP ratio out of all spells."

That would be discus of light, unless we're talking about sorceries only.

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Wanted to do a melee mage build using the carian glintstone staff and all the sword spells. Currently lvl 90, int 37, cgs level 22, graven school talisman, scorpion charm and a level 9 carian knight sword is stronger. Disappointing build.

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True mages don't need no stinky moonveil! We got a slicer to teach those melee users a lesson!

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First the whining brutes complain that mages refuse to stand still and fight fair, then they complain when mages stand still and fight fair.

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insanely fp efficient, slap on the fp recovery talisman and slice your way through all the trash mobs

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insanely fp efficient, slap on the fp recovery talisman and slice your way through all the trash mobs

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Im always curios why there is no staff damage detection part spamming this spell, the staff always seems to be hitting the enemy.

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Im blown away by the number of complaints about low damage.
...are you just not upgrading your staffs or something?

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I love people complaining about Slicer being nerfed in PvP but not Catch Flame

Sorry mages, but faith is and will always be better than magic, even From acknowledges it that's why they didn't nerf us, go cry more while I cast Barrier of Gold and roll catch you with Catch Flame :)

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swing swing swing
why does thing go so FAST and deal so much damage??? My "mage" so far has just been the same as my dex build, but with int instead of dex, and A LOT more damage.

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Look how they massacred my boy

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How much poise to poise 1 slicer and/or 1 swift pebble? I want to prophet cosplay but swift pebble and slicer are worse than thrust sword.

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Better than moonveil

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Can't believe this got nerfed and meanwhile Catch Flame is still able to do over 700 damage despite doing way more poise damage than Carian Slicer lol

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if only this was an Ash of War… so to speak, praise this message !

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Never really used this, still won’t. Although, it’s kinda upsetting that “Carina Slicer” is the best INT dps move

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Virgins use Moonveil
Chads use Carian slicer

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Even it was nerfed, are people discovering that they can run up roll-catch with this spell in PVP?

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A lot of people complain about the nerf in PvP (I agree it was a bit too much) but I still think it's a very powerful spell!

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The damage on this should be buffed

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Kinda useless in PvP unless you are using lusat glinstone staff and carian glinstone staff off-hand to boost melee sorceries damage by 15%, and even then, it just feels okay.
You are better grabbing a moonveil, does more damage, doesn't cost FP, has a great ash of war, and does actually stun people.

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The range on this should be nerfed

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I didn't even know it was possible to have a stat spread bad bad enough to make carian slicer bad, but the comments on this page have showed me that it must be possible

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Needs to be made into an AoW that you can put on staffs. The worst thing about this spell is FromSoftware's continuing obsession with their item rings, which really hampers the use of this on mage builds - you're firing away, something gets up close to you, you then have to whirl the ring around to Carian Slicer to switch to melee mode, and then back again once the thing in question either backs off or dies. If you have a lot of spells equipped (which, if you're a mage, you usually will), that ring HUD is more of a pain than it's worth in the heat of battle.

AoW on the staff = R1 is caster mode, L2 is melee mode. Add to that the one staff AoW we have (Spinning Weapon) is supposed to be for exactly this but it barely works at all (too slow to activate, weak damage, not the easiest thing to properly aim, leaves you wide open for several frames between the spin finishing and the animation-lock ending), and IMO there's a good case for this being added as an AoW for staffs.

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Good spell, but could be better if it was slightly buffed, just like another person said, Catch Flame is better, more damage and more poise damage.

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Farron Flashsword but worse
Terrible damage and terrible poise damage too
Tried this in duel and invasions and it was so bad

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Lmao this spell is bad in pvp, deal little to no poise damage and easily dodgable, just use a magic infused sword, it is more viable and does more damage

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Need a buff, damage is a bit low, catch flame is better.

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Why am I forced to use both lusat and carian glinstone staff to make this weapon viable?
It needs a damage buff because it's quite trash, only 300 damage per hit

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still better than any melee weapon, why bother lmao

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Does anyone know if millicent prostesics and Rotten winged Insignia boost the damage?

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For anybody that is playing caster for 1st time and is not a souls vet ,from my experience this is still one of the best spells in game.
1.you get in the starting area can be literally on level 1
2.Very low FP / STA consumption
3.has insane base damage - early game magic resistance is not a big issue (For Renala i used a sword as higher upgraded as i got )
4.goes out very quick - great against slow early game boses

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Thank God it was nerfed

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lightsaber vwoom vwoom hehe

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I'm good at PvP. I'm totally not carried by this spell, with minor help from Piercer, Regression, Swift Pebble, Adoula's, and Comet.

Joking aside, this spell is insanely good. With the Glintstone staff in the offhand I can out-trade anyone except fist users. Fist users are the hard counter to this.

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the "i want a sword but i dont want to invest stat points to wield one" spell.

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Do people really think Carian Slicer is bad now? Even with a 20% damage nerf is still find it pretty good for pvp, you just need one hit more to kill but that's it, slicer is as fast as a dagger and does more damage than all straight swords, even with the nerf
I'm myself a mage btw

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From just hate mages... it didnt need a nerf

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This can true combo with a Colossal Sword's crouch poke, but so can Catch Flame, which has much higher MV (225 vs the 180 of this spell) while also not having its damage reduced in PvP by 20%. While it's true that at its most optimal, this spell was too strong, as it is now it's useless to someone who isn't trying to maximize their spell damage and want to use spells as utility with <80 Int and an Azur's Glintstone Staff. Despite not having a cast-speed increasing catalyst and lower spell buff on the account of needing to put points into Dex for maximum cast speed, Catch Flame will deal more damage than this spell in 99% of situations, even in situations where your opponent isn't using Barrier of Gold, and despite that fact that it deals Fire Damage, and everyone has higher innate Fire Defense than Magic Defense. Maybe for dedicated mages it's still usable, but for hybrid casters you'd be better off respecting to use Incantations if you want to combo with a Colossal Sword.

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it does 0.005% less damage now, clearly bad and unusable

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Why do ppl complain this spell has a shorter range than a dagger and is slower...

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Over 1200 hosts vanquished and game beaten all below level 20. Thanks carian slicer I hate them too

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I feel like this should bounce off of large shields, I mean you're probably already so close to the enemy you're hitting them with the staff part so it's not that outrageous to think you can't one hand it against a big hulking shield.

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People whining about the nerf on this have no idea how much damage it does on an optimal setup. Worst case scenario is takes one more swing to kill now, but most of the time it is still going to kill in the same number of hits as it had that high of damage prior. It requiring you to stack passive poise is also a good tradeoff for using it as it can be that devastating.

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Lmao mages crying in comments, it was nerfed ONLY for pvp not pve. Get rekt.

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