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Who better Catch Flame or Carian Slicer?

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In pvp, Carian Slicer does 51 poise dmg.
This does 189 meaning if you got stagger, you can do nothing but roll away or eat another one that likely another stagger, with even more damage and casting it doesn't make a sound that can be heard from across the map. To add salt in the wound, incantations have EVERYTHING from healing to buffs to damage, and chain casting from jump is much more deadlier. Not to mention insane projectile speed from certain incantation(lightning spear) for long range heal punish and a delayed, force to dodge roll(Fire serpent). Have physical, lightning, holy, fire damage and some status buildup and great combo spells if you level arcane and all of them are viable while sorcery stuck with mostly magic damage with handful of usable spells.
Also, did you know that using seal with azur staff offhand does increase casting speed but with no increase fp cost? Crazy!
Sorcery bros, we got shafted hard.

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Actually does x2.25 your scaling, at 80 Faith with an Erdtree Seal +10 it should deal ~795 Fire damage prior to any damage boosts or mitigation calculations. If Fire Defense didn't scale with Vigor, this would be kind of stupidly strong, but instead it's just really really strong.

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I love people who lagging spam this in PvP with no punish windows!

Joke aside, for how fast it is, its stagger and damage should really be toned down. So many slower spells (like Thorn Sorceries) do so little poise damage but this thing can bypass some hyper armored attacks. Definitely overtuned at the moment

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This actually deals 2.25x incantation scaling, not 1.67x, tested just now (patch 1.13.2)

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best incantation in the game. almost as good as an R1 from a weapon. Incredible.

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Man I love this spell so much. I use it with my offhand seal to have a quick attack in my flame build, and it's very effective and cheap. Amazing spell from start to end.

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Wheres Envy at

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Wdym "similar" to combustion it literally is but with a different name

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One of the all time great staple incants/spells, esp early game & PvP. Don’t be fooled by how easy it is to get or how anticlimactic the cast is, it remains viable through endgame. I missed this spell for my first 7 or 8 NG’s , now with the new dlc talisman it casts near instant & has found a permanent home on my faith builds.

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I cannot believe I took this long to use this spell consistently, it's absolutely busted once you get to max cast speed. And to top it off the incantation has roll and running attacks. Basically carian slicer on steroids.

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So... Carian slicer is way better, while being the exact same thing as catch flame. CS does 1.8x damage instead of 1.67x, costs 4 FP instead of 10, but its literally the exact same. What is this fromsoftware?

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The Goat

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Turns out this incantation is connected to Melina and Messmer. Its us seeing the same prophecy they did. Cool

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i desperately want a black flame variant

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I really wish they increase the speed of the cast after performing a attack with the main hand in the patch that will come with the DLC, so it can combo after a halberd poke and be viable alongside haldag and halstoc (totally not coping btw)

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O Erdtree, you shall burn.

Burn for the sake of the new Lord

Thank you. For guiding me here

The one who walks alongside flame,

Shall one day meet the road of Destined Death.

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carian slicer but incantation

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You can cast this spell on your horse while sprinting at full speed as this spell does not slow you down, nor come to a complete stop to cast like other spells.
Very good for drive by or in-and-out attacks on targets like dragons or giants where you have to be highly mobile to avoid large AOE attacks.

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I hope the dlc brings DS3's blackflame combustion

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Catch Flame, Flame Sling and Fire's Deadly Sin really need to be given their own moniker in the incantations list. They all lack the Fire Monk logo on their spell icon, and they are also not buffed by the Fire Monk's Talisman.

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Posting this comment on Catch Flame and O Flame page.
I did some testing too see how purely DPS wise it compared to each other.

-My charcater has 12 dex, so the lowest casting speed. By using the radagon icon, theoricaly, O flame would benefit more from it by the simple fact that it's slower.
-I have the giant seal in my off hand, important to note because Catch Flame is NOT boosted by it, and O Flame is boosted by it. (+20%)
-I am buffing myself with, fire cracked tear, golden vow (the incantation), flame grant me strengh. And i have the fire scorpion charm (i will talk about the godfrey icon later, you'll see why)
-I am using the value by an anaware albinauric, with a erdtree seal and 81 faith

The last two point are not really important, still im putting them here for those who want them.

So first of all let's compare Catch Flame with uncharged O Flame :
-Catch Flame do 1277 per cast
-Uncharged O Flame do 1907 per cast
Speed wise 5x Catch Flame = 3x uncharged O Flame (it can be off from 10-15ms, about 5% in my calculation). And so :
-Catch Flame do 6386
-Uncharged O Flame do 5721 in the same amount of time

When charged (without godfrey icon), O Flame will do 2623 per cast
Speed wise 4x Catch Flame = 2x charged O Flame (it can be off from 10-15ms, about 6% in my calculation). And so :
-Catch Flame do 5108
-Charged O Flame do 5246 in the same amount of time

With godfrey icon, charged O Flame do 3016 per cast and 6032 in the same amount of time.

I think in end game with high dex you would have a very intersting result, because the charged O Flame goes out VERY fast when you use the radagon icon. Anyways, hope this is useful to someone.

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combustion, o combustion

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I love this spell. Cheap and fast, how I like them

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Just did my quickest playthrough to date by only using this spell.
It really is like a shotgun, thus making it one of the best spells in the game

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Basically carian slicer for faith users, and it gives a lot of enemies the finger from how powerful it is

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Very glad the toxic pvp losers and sweatlord whiners never succeeded in getting this nerfed I'm sick of the pvp whiners a very very small but loud minority ruining everyone else's fun. Go away please nobody likes you.

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Nearly got melted in the span of 1.4 seconds when Chief Guardian Arghanthy casted this a couple times, literally only survived because I took a Vigor level up 5 minutes prior.

I now know to keep a dedicated Catch Flame slot in my Unga Paladin build.

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Anyone who knows anything knows how fking strong this spell is. Massive dmg, fast as fk, super buffable and more of an endgame weapon then the katana. Such a powerhouse of a spell and you get it level 1! Crazy! Watch some speedrunners with it if you need to confirm it lol xD

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I see twin spears i spam this .

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sucks absolute ass

the range is pitiful, it doesn't stagger enough and being a melee range completely defeats the purpose of using spells instead of weapons. it can even miss if you cast it inside the enemy's body, i kid you not

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Pocket fire!

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Want to roleplay as Mustang from Full Metal Alchemist? This is your incantation then.

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Prophet is the best starting class. You got your short spear (best spear in the game) and you get this underrated slap machine of an incantation. It's fast, it opens up combo potentials and the damage is pretty solid.

Prophet OP

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Spicy Sneeze

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>Comes out fast af
>Can be cast repeatedly/immediately after maneuvering
>Insane damage scaling
>Absurdly cheap to use
>Available very early game
>All but two classes can use it at base level

This spell is SSS tier

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if you think an 8 faith starter incantation is "too OP" and "needs a nerf", that's literally your skill issue. Learn to play.

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Does this combo with any weapon aside from UGS Crouch Poke?

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"Parry/poisetank this you ****ing casul."

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Combos:
Catch Flame into Stone of Gurranq
Catch Flame into Magma Breath
Catch Flame into Theodorix's Breath

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Need a nerf.

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You can parry Carian Slicer pretty easily, so everyone saying Carian Slicer is better in PvP should just git gud at parries or use Golden Parry so that the parries hit themselves.

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“This may reference why giant’s seal “doesn’t boosts” the spell”average faith player trying to make a coherent sentence

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why does this deal so much poise damage tho

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I really like the running L1 running L1 running L1 running L1 mix-up.

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not a fire monk incant

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How would I fix it? Remove the running attack, but keep the backstep and rolling attacks. Now it’s a tricky, surprise spell with absurd damage but can’t be used as the main driver of momentum. Still annoying but no more one spell pvpers.

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Can easily get to 900 dmg per cast (before enemy resistances) WITH 103 poise WITH max cast speed on a 150 RL build in invasions. Very fun 2 or 3 shotting people in a second.

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Apparently, you can (backstep + cast) (jump + cast) or (dash + cast) with Catch Flame.
This Incantation is a hidden gem.

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30 Mar 2023 05:24 Lol I was invading someone's world (my character has 60 vigor and erdtree favor +2, so I have almost 2000 HP), then a phantom kills me with just 3 catch flame hits, I'm sorry but I call this bullshit, there is no way a spell like that should do over 650 damage. It needs the same PvP nerf that Carian Slicer got in 1.08, I'm surprised this didn't get nerfed too, people can just spam this and win.

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absolutely ****ing destroyed gideon with this 10/10

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It should't deal so much damage considering how fast it is. At least in PVP.

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Everyone complaining about how it needs to be nerfed don't take into consideration that this is not a fighting game, it is not an Esports game...it's an rpg with a multiplayer function. Do you just want them to nerf everything that kills you to your disliking? I fight A LOT of players who know how to dodge my Catch Flame. It's not broken, you just need to come up with a personal strategy for yourself or a counter plan.

I shouldn't have to say this, but...Git Gud.

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Where do you get that this is a fire monk incantation? It doesn't say in the description, doesn't get the bonus and fire monks don't cast this right? They cast O Flame.

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i think it got nerfed in 1.09 because it feels slower

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This should not deal over 600 damage and stun my character that has 88 poise. I agree it needs a nerf.

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This spell deals way too much poise damage and damage at the same time, it shouldn't do both considering how fast it is.
From nerfed Bestial Sling and Carian Slicer so I expect Catch Flame to be next.

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I forgot to mention something. This spell is currently bugged. It can hit twice if you do a jumping catch flame. It's rare to happen and not sure what exactly causes it. I suspect it's from using it frame perfect during the jump so the game thinks you used another one when you touch grass which also means if you get good at timing it you can make it consistent. It'll probably be fixed

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Pretty sure it does 94-95 poise damage. It's one of those spells you can make a min maxed build for with low mind, high poise and flame grant me strength physick etc to hit for (probably) 800 a pop to even strength builds with their high fire resist. It's just that it needs those buffs active to do insane damage.

If you have a way to true combo it you can deal with high poise but otherwise it gets shut down by good players if you don't have buffs because of low single hit damage. Does around 350-410 damage against strength builds with decent armor on 45/45 int faith setup. Easy to outtrade by itself unless you time it badly and get hit by 2. You can also jump it to counter and probably more.

I think it's just right balance-wise without the edge cases of buff stacking but that's just an issue with buffs. If you nerfed this like slicer it would just get run over by strength builds especially. It is pretty powerful when you don't have 95 poise though.

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It's as effortless as rapier's light attack spamming, but with higher damage.

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Why we didn’t get a black flame version of this is beyond me

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Carian slicer is and will always be better
Stay made faith boys

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Burned Malenia's butt with it to crisp. Then went on to H.Loux, Radagon and E.Beast - all destroyed by this tiny monster

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catch flame into Flaming strike is a garunteed combo if you arnt facing someone with high poise plus itll most likley one shot most of the time if youre running the right build.Made this my main build and i have had nothing but fun watching all mages and all other builds burn to a crisp :) i think catch flame should be buffed though,more in range than damage

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This is unironically the best spell in the game. Sure the range is bad, but it comes out super fast, deals a ton of damage and costs little FP so it can be chained for as long as your stamina pool allows. Really good in PvP as well if you pay close attention to the spacing between your opponent, if you get it off at the right time you can easily staggerlock almost any build.

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I love using this after hitting with a heavy weapon. Simple combo you can do with nearly any if not all builds hence the faith requirement

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I want a black flame version of this. I wouldn't even care if the burn effect is halved for it. This one looks out of place in my black flame witch build. We all just want to look badass from tip to toe in pvp, don't we?

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Crutch flame.

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Carian slicer is 4 fp but this is 10. They should lower the fp cost of this spell.

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Basically the faith version of Carian Slicer. Powerful and reliable as hell.

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I have not seen any comments on the fact that this incantation has a running and jumping attack which makes it absolut top tier in terms of utility!

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storm stomp 2: flamin hot edition

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Rollcatch Flame

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Is this the new Meta? This thing can cast 4 times before a straight sword swing can land a hit and when combined with that flaming stike WA bullshit it’s almost damn near invincible.

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Way too good for a starter spells. It's fast, it's cheap, and it hits hard. Can't really go wrong in most situations.

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Suprisingly reliable and carried my prophet run well past stormveil. I was able to beat margit first try at level 15 by just popping him 5 times in a row then running away, rinse and repeat till dead :p

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Literally hits harder than every sword in the game and casts 10x faster, incantations op

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Why is it always the starting spells that are the best?

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Little lore speculation, but I throughout the souls franchise, when you're casting a spell, you're manifesting someone elses idea or power. What I find cool about these spells is that, if you start as a prophet, this spell and flame sling are actually made by yourself after having had a vision of the erdtree burning.

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There might a mechanic I'm not understanding, but while it requires 8 faith to learn the incantation the lowest faith requirement seal is 10 faith, except a very late game one. Is there a way to cast it at 8 faith?

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I do think the stun on this should be slightly nerfed because sometimes you can land a 2 hit combo with 2 catch flames if you have fast enough cast speed.

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Dear FROM,


Where is Catch Black Flame? Did you remove it? Are you holding is back for DLC? Why would you do that? How cool would’ve it been if you used Catch Flame with Godslayer’s Seal it automatically made it Black Flames? Oh well, I guess.

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This spell along with Beastial swing can glitch out (and exploit) any spell with a secondary spammable animation (like honed bolt, dragon claw, magma, lightning strike etc) because the game treats that cast as if it were the secondary animation, thus removing a good 1 second from cast times of said above skills.

Wouldnt recommend doing it tho, not only will im sure it will get patched, its just a ***** move for the most part

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"Parry this you filthy casual"

Seriously though, this thing is incredible to use along with something long and pokey. Something like a Banished Knight Halberd. It has range and poke attacks, but can't quite catch someone who rolls all around you. That's when this spell comes to rescue. Or when somebody pulls out the buckler, you unleash flame ball right into their face.

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As of patch 1.04.1, Fromsoft secretly buffed this spell's damage by about 10% damage. But, the charged version by a crazy 30% increase. And yes Fromsoft is trying to gaslight us!!! Make us thinking we over look some ordinary spell by slowly buffing them!!!

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As of patch 1.04.1, Fromsoft secretly buffed this spell's damage by about 10% damage. But, the charged version by a crazy 30% increase. And yes Fromsoft is trying to gaslight us!!! Make us thinking we over look some ordinary spell by slowly buffing them!!!

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Catch this flame how bout dat

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I can’t tell if it’s a true combo, but casting this from the left hand flows very quickly and smoothly after 2 curved sword swings.

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I was thinking that catch flame and surge o, flame should be one incantation. Like the flame vent from Sekiro, specifically okinaga’s flame vent. “Surging catch flame” has a nice tone

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Found a glitch comboing this spell and Dragonclaw, it performs the same animation as comboing Magma Breath and deals full Dragonclaw damage but there's no visuals or sound to go with it

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Where tf is the Godslayer version of this spell and O Flame in this game? Given the sheer volume of even the game's most obscure contents already being discovered either From straight up neglected to add it for no reason or it's so absurdly well-hidden somewhere in the game nobody will probably find it. Sorta dumb to think it's in upcoming dlc considering everything else that's already available and there's enemies that already use it

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It's good but it looks so lame, actual fire fart spell

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Does the giant seal not buff catch flame? Why?

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It's a bit sad that so many of the Incantations are so weak, I wish I could use more than four spells

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this can be used to exploit not having to cast as quickly for a few spells, my favorite are the magma spew and blackflame blade (it skips the first vertical animation and does the horizontal swing instead which is so much more useful to me.) That combined with having so much damage in the long run for bosses is really nice

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The only downside is that I have to French kiss every enemy I wish to ignite due to it's range. Apart from that, good spell, very potent, just make sure to brush your teeth after each use. Also best to avoid using this on animals, it's very hard to explain should someone see you.

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Unfortunately the best incantation in the game right here. This, lightning spear, and Ekzyke's Decay are all you need for 100% of situations. They really screwed faith in this game. I'm still trying to piece together a pvp bishop but it's very difficult. I hope they buff incantation speed. They buffed sorcories for basically no reason.

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Using flaming strikes full combi following into this is a very powerful combo I've come to find out. I wonder how efficient it would be with pvp

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It's pretty clear this is a subtle wink and a nod to Super Mario on the NES where you could also shoot fireballs.

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So apparently spamming this will stun lock you to death in pvp. Fun =/

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