Colossal Swords | Elden Ring Wiki

cool, had to spend a few minutes narrowing down which one the admins had for zero reason renamed, that wasn’t at all annoying

seriously, not all of us read Japanese comics from the 80s… just use the in-game name, please

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I'm disappointed that the Astora Greatsword from Dark Souls 3 didn't return in some way (obviously without any ties to Astora or Dark Souls), that thing was honestly the best Ultra Greatsword in that game for it's weight and how it still hit like a truck despite weighing LESS than the Claymore.

I know that it wouldn't have the same absurdly low weight that it did given that the Zweihander went from 10.00 units to 15.5 (so probably 13.5 units, which ngl would still be great), could have probably given the Guardian's Swordspear or the Bloodhound's Fang some competition for best Dexterity weapon.

Can always hope that it's successor comes in the DLC.

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For all people wondering: GUGS is referring to the regular "Greatsword"

It totally looks like the sword straight out from the manga Berserk, which Miyazaki loves and refers to in many FromSoft Games, where it belongs to a charakter called Guts hence the name Guts Ultra Great Sword = GUGS

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GUGS my beloved

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Change the "GUGS" thing.

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WHY CANT I FIND GUGS IN THE GAME? AM I MISSING SOMETHING

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The overhead R1 light attack from DS3 is now an R2 heavy attack on all Colossal Swords, with exception of Zweihander (R2 is a stab), Troll Knight's Sword (R2 is a stab) and Greatsword (R2 is a sweep).

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Remember Kids, colossal weapons wouldnt exist without the Zweihänder existing.

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i have every weapon in the game i think but im confused what is gugs, its not showing in game

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No fume Ultra Greatsword

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80 Str -Heavy
-GUGS 875 AR (917 AR with 99 str)
-Zwei 755 AR (around 20 less AR with 80 dex)

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Lets make a class thats 5x heavier. Slower then most. Uses enormous stamina. Do the same damage as a small weapon while having no hyper armour and being highly susceptible to a aim punch.

Fromsoft

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Just fix the aim punch bug instead of more buffs for god sake.

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It does feel like a weird that there are so many Intelligence based UGS.

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Someone must explain me why they removed the vertical R1 slam from DS2/3 and why the only UGSs with pokes are the Zwei (good) and the Troll Knight (bad).

Seriously From, don't always make step forwards in some areas of your game design while backpedalling in others.

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What is gugs. It's not in the game

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Why do we only get speed and poise buffs. WE NEED DAMAGE BUFF. WHY IS THE IDIOT WITH 2 SMALL SWORD AND 2 TINY SPEARS OUTDAMAGING ME??!??!?!?

Thank you for coming to my ted talk.

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GUGS = Ultra great sword.
Admins for this page are just shoving their shitty anime references down people's throats.

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These honestly are in such a weird place i think. Just referring to gugs and zwei and mostly using ds3 for comparison. Gugs needs too much str (i think 28 or at least 30 would make it easier for alot of ppl to incorporate it) also it weighs just a bit too much, 23 makes you gotta compromise alot of your other gear and/or stats. Zweis wielding stats are fine, but it weighs way 2 dang much considering its pretty much only as strong as great weapons (ghammers CGS gaxes) zwei should weigh about 12 at the most honestly, otherwise you may as well just use a dismounter or something. Gugs is strong, but still fairly close to zwei and Gweapons because for some reason they decided to just keep making them faster and faster instead of stronger and stronger. If they made em a bit slower, lighter, less str req for gugs, and increased their damage by a good amount, i think it would make them alot more interesting in pvp and alot funner for pve! Also add flame strike AoW!

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Guts Ultra Great Sword = GUGS

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what the **** is GUGS? some people are saying is just the Ultra Great Sword so then why is it called GUGS? is this some shitty anime thing Im too normal to understand?

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It’s far from un-react-able in its current state. And what videos are you referencing, guy below me? Stop whining and git gud. It’s plenty balanced now compared to plenty of other things that could use your whining about.

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WHY would they bring back crouch poke? It was still good even after the nerf but now it’s unreactable and too fast to punish with a prediction jump. And it still combos into offhand halberd. Oh and the rest of the move set is really good now so it’s just overkill and my collosal sword is already easy mode if my opponent doesn’t mirror. I can’t even have fun with my zwei now without someone assuming I’m a dirt bag and switching to their own zwei to only cr1 and can crouch running attack. I don’t even understand why they allow crouch attacking at all. Roll attack animations are all supposed to be balanced out by having the warning of a roll. And the Telegraph is what balances out cr1 being the fastest,highest poise damage attacks of a move set with the shortest recoveries that can’t be punished. Without the roll there is no Telegraph and spamming crouch is enough to make even G9 panic roll in his videos. G9, one of the best, panic rolls like a noob when twerking starts and can only counter it with his own cr1. Oh and why is crouch sprinting even a thing? You can’t even punish the twerking with distance since they can sprint right up while bobbing during crouch. Endure into erdtree heal with ritual shield+scale talisman/heavy armor is the cheese I use to make these people miserable. If I dragged it out for 3 minutes and forced them to switch to royal remains/quickstep, then I’ve given them what they deserve.

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They’re back baby.

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If they don't add a colossal sword with a verticle r1 in the DLC imma cry. I just wanna be able to roll catch again mister miyazaki

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sweaties when athe weapon doesnt have a broken unreactable poke attack (it sucks)

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war cry r2 true combos into r1 now, its absolutely brutal

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Guts Ultra Great Sword

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what is GUGS?

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new r1s are super fast, was able to outtrade a thrusting sword guy with it. feels good

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where in the HECK is the Black Knight™ Ultra Greatsword

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now i just gonna use the serpent hunter poke, its not a big deal tbh

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crouch poking is not dead but takes actuall skill now to roll catch

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Really all they needed to do was lower the motion value on the poke and make it parriable like it was in 3, then it wouldn't be so oppressive on everything. Having a single fast attack among all the slow ones was what made them compete with other weapons, now they have nothing. The only ultra worth using for its r1s is godslayer, and that was true even before 1.07.

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wish the mods on this page would change the Greatsword from GUGS in the weapon range picture. Not all of us watch anime and we don't need you shoving this **** down our throats when we came here to get information on the game.

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Aaand I wasted stones on this for nothing. 2 moves now at half refresh rate slow-mo. Breaks the rythm. I can roll back on Axes and Maces, just would like mt mats back, that stuff doesn't grow on trees, From.

Having PVE messed by whiny maiden less PVPers...never change From. It's lovely to commit 50 stat point for no reward.

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wtf is GUGS, none of the listed weapons match the acronym.

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Crouch poke is nerfed but the colossal swords aren't fast enough to compensate. They are much much more usable and with the poise buff, they're exceedingly viable in PvE but against players who suck up to meta, these are too slow to roll catch and will quickly lose to 2h thrusting swords. Worst yet is that poise is now neuthered for PvP so good luck fighting against rolling stabs.

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Thank god they balanced this weapon class but the rolling/crouching attack is completely useless. I'd say switch the animation to something similar or just like the rolling attack of the Astora greatsword from ds3 but make it parryable just like ds3 so it cant be spammed.

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ahhh... all the crouch poker tears... glorious

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Cruching nerfed !!!!!

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So regular greatswords got abysmal hammer-like ground slam on roll and croutch attacks, but colossal swords get a lightning fast poke? Just...why?

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Just switch animation of rolling/crouching light attack between colossal swords and claymore to balance this out.

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Yes I never skip leg days, how did you notice?

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Say what you will about the Colossal greatsword class, but I for one am glad it exists. I was born with a disability that means I only have 1 finger on each hand. Fromsoft was extremely considerate to provide a weapon class I can win with even with this disability, very inclusive. Oh also my disability left me blind and with only 3 brain cells but the colossal weapon class allows me to consistently be within the top 5 on the Elden ring pvp ladder. Thank you Fromsoft for caring for the disabled like me.

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Look how they massacred my boy

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crouch poking reminds me of murky a little bit

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Crouch poke is literally just a brain check. If you have one, you can play around someone using it. If not, oh well.

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The crouch poke reminds me of the unpatched version of ds3’s Astora greatsword rolling attack—which was an unparryable, extremely fast slamming move that somehow did counter thrusting damage.

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Remember when ultra greatswords used to be powerful without you having to basically just spam 2 moves over and over for them to be viable late game and in pvp? I miss those times.

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Crouch poke is fun to me but not for you

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What kinda weapons do you guys want from up coming DLCs? I want ugs' that doesn't look like garbage, in DS3 they were so elegant. Even more viceral looking ones like FUME UGS was a thing of beauty. This game lacks anything similar to Cathedral UGS, Astora UGS or Lothric UGS. GUGS looks like garbage, its weirdly circlular shaped, it looked so much better in previous games. the only actually great looking UGS is Blaidds and thats a str/int weapon, not suitable for every build. Zweihander looks great as always but thats about it.

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To the 99% of this comment section, we get it. You're salty about the crouch pokes of these, can you please say something other than complaining? Not meaning to complain about complaining, but Jesus.

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It's worth noting that the horseback heavy attacks of these weapons are amazing, they do great damage, simply charging them does good damage, they flip most average sized enemies like pancakes in a frying pan and many that aren't flipped atleast get knocked back/heavily staggered, and they are great against Dragons if you hit their heads, the light attack on horse though is just straight worse tho, it's the same speed, it does not combo, it's awkward to hit enemies with, and does much less damage than a heavy attack.

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They should call these colossal thrusting swords instead

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why does the weapon range data picture say GUGS for the standard greatsword? needlessly complicates things.

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just make the move parriable from, im beggin ya.

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I think this wiki got this wrong, this is actually the spear section, Fromsoft just decided to delete Colossal Swords from the game.

But seriously though, there are some very good reasons why people love to abuse the crouch poke and how it's busted as hell lol:
- Comes out extremely quickly
- Has really good tracking while locked on
- The poke does a lot of stun damage, meaning you can hit someone, crouch while they are stil in their stun animation, and then roll-catch them into oblivion
- The hitbox is chunky as hell, and it's a lot wider than it looks
- The hyper armor start up is exremely quick, meaning you can poise through enemy attacks with little risk of being poise broken

Obviously, a nerf to the crouch pokes is pretty necessary for the sake of balance. But I would like to counter with some buffs I'd love to see:
- Fix the Manual Attack Aiming option (which for some reason literally does nothing atm)
- Increase the attack speed

Something I would also love to see is the return of the vertical 2-handed R1s from DS2/DS3 on some weapons like the Greatsword and the Ruins Greatsword (and maybe others). Sure, you'd lose the broad sweeps, but it feels pretty neat imo and the 2nd R1 can hit people behind you. But at this point it's just wishful thinking if From ever goes that far (though modders have proven that they can alter movesets, so maybe they're just stubborn).

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Ds2 & 3 had the best movesets, they're even a bit faster.

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yet another weapon class where the only attack that does thrust damage is also the best one

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Someone add to all these pages the stagger dmg, or an unified page where all weapon classes are showing their stagger dmg potential, of course +25 can get much higher with heavy ash of war.

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It doesn't matter what weapon class a weapon is; if it has a fast poke attack, 90% of the playerbase will rely entirely of that single move. Colossal swords are no different.

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WARNING: WALL OF TEXT INCOMING!

Moveset:

Not only do these moveset look like someone who cannot wield the weapon itself, but it also looks like our characters are about to drop the weapon at anytime cause of the lack of strength. Do you feel like you have inhumane strength when you use these weapons? Cause I sure don't. It lacks power, speed and colossal weapons and generally do not have many ash of wars.

Compare these badly designed weapon movesets with Fume Ultra Greatsword from dark souls 3 and you will see the difference in the moveset speed and damage. It was an easy to avoid weapon moveset, but the enemy who used it could swing and miss still have a chance to avoid your counter attack, so the enemy and you had to actually play mind games and other abilities to win.

Balancing:

Also what the hell is the damage balancing between these and greatswords? The Iron Greatsword (Greatsword Class) will outperform the Watchdog's Greatsword (Colossal Sword) in almost every category DESPITE weighing 22 in weight while Iron Greatsword weighs only 12. So Fromsoftware want you to spend more strength points and endurance just to be able to do less damage?
Watchdog's Greatsword also deal less damage than "Greatsword (Guts' weapon) and if it's because of the lore which I quote "Though decorated with the watchman's eye, the pupil was taken by graverobbers and is now hollow, leaving this sword a mere lump of stone."

Lets compare this to another balancing they've done, spears. The pike is the longest weapon in the game and the standard damage is 115 without upgrades and weighing 7.5. Partizan another spear that is shorter deals 123 and weighs 6.5. You know why I compare these? Because they are exacly like Greatsword vs Watchdog's Greatsword, identitcal. The Greatsword representing the Pike while the Watchdog's Greatsword representing the Partizan.

Watchdog's Greatsword SHOULD deal more damage based on the spear balancing, fix this.

Build variety?:

Also why is there no arcane Colossal Sword OR Colossal weapon? You'd think it would be Ruins Greatsword since Hero (The most optimized class for it) would use arcane instead since it's lowest stat is literally intelligence, but no. There's no bleed/poison OR eochaid (arcane based magic) colossal weapon. Give me an Eochaid Colossal Sword or something else.

Oh another note, counter attacks after blocking sucks balls, try to get that on someone.

Ending:

I'm going to stick with my Knight's Greatsword since it feels more balanced and since I like to to pretend I'm actually a Kenneth Haight Knight. Anyways, thanks for reading and have a good day :)

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Somehow From managed to make even UGS spammable and toxic

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I like to thrust using my large straight sword, it's pretty effective

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(Speaking of PvP not PvE) CS users really basing their entire playstyle on a single move and seriously considering it fun

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Using crouch poke with standard level of poise p- dubious but ok.
Using crouch poke with max poise... BRING OUT THE INSTA BLEED/MADNESS BLOOD INFUSED FINGERPRINT SHIELD WITH SHIELD CRASH AND ROYAL KNIGHTS RESOLVE.

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Welcome to Saltville! Enjoy your stay!

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I think they put too much salt on my popcorn

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gugs users must have back problems from all that crouching

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Put your GUGS on,
nothing will be wrong...

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Colossal Swords are the best spears in Elden Ring

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GUGS = Guts Ultra Great Sword, btw.

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GUGS

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So Zweihander is the second longest
actually surprised

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These weapons are awesome, but paired with ultra high poise they can be kinda problematic in PvP--hence poise higher than 45 being banned while wielding an UGS atm--so capping max poise while in PvP down to at least under Storm Stomp's 110 poise damage could be a good idea.

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What does Gugs stand for? It's annoying when you google that and still can't find an answer.

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the standard R1 spam is perfectly tuned to catch your ass when you roll in.

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98% of this comment section is nothing but pure salt

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I feel it was kind of a missed opportunity to put in the vertical r1s from DS2 and DS3 in Elden Ring because literally every weapon in this class has horizontal r1s

The only CS with a unique r1 is the Godslayer's Greatsword, and even then they're still horizontal swings

The weapons i'd definitely give that moveset to would be the ones with a big emphasis in Strength scaling like the Greatsword and the Ruins Greatsword

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Odd that there's almost double the amount of somber stone weapons in this class than basic ones.

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Make sure to carry soap with you if you run into one of these in PvP, you'll have to clean the **** off of you after they finish crouch poking.

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4 int greatswords and not one of them scales well with dex
2 faith greatswords and one scales with dex

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Dissapointed there is no naturally Dexterity scaling Colossal Sword like the Astora Greatsword from Dark Souls 3.

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They absolutely ruined colossal swords in this game. I always loved supersized chunky swords to slam foes with pure strength into the ground, but this weapon class sucks as a whole, except for crouch poke. I tried dueling without crouch pokes, and 3 matches in a row, I could not land even ONE hit. The swings redefine clunky and it’s impossible to hit a skilled player who will easily outspace everything giving them free damage. The crouch poke makes it at least a little viable, but even then it’s very predictable and easy to dodge on reaction. Unsheathe or transient moonlight can also out-trade basically every attack. They aren’t going to re-work the entire moveset, and with every panic rolling scrub complaining about it, colossals will likely get their pokes nerfed soon.

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11 different colossal swords means 11 different ways you can get owned by quick-paced pro VWS dual wielders, don't even bother tards you'll end up eating dust

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Crouch poke once is fine. CROUCH POKE SPAM NOT FINE!

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These need q buff des0eeately to be viable

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Smh these weapons are obviously halberds, considering how much poking and how little of slashing happens

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It’s very important to remember that if your weapon had the crouch-poke move to do no other attacks.
It’s faster than most weapons and stronger and unparryable. Combine it with giants poke for a real skill driven build.

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Hear me out: Crouch Poke *by itself* is fine.

In PvE, and as long as no lag is involved.

If you can clearly see when the opponent is attacking and when said attack is going to hit you, proper spacing is fairly easy and the entire weapon class would be almost unplayable as always unless you really know what you're doing. With this game having even worse lag that DS3 somehow, you're dealing with high damage pokes that are sometimes practically unpunishable since the hit comes out before the animation plays, and the opponent is gone by the time you'd have your window of opportunity to punish.

I'd rather have them make PvP more bearable by fixing the atrocious connection issues before they nerf the one move that makes Colossal Swords even halfway viable.

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Crouch poke is the epitome of sht game design

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Fromsoft finally found a new word that describes straight/broad swords that are bigger than greatswords, you know, other than "ULTRA" greatswords.

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The great club should be here no?

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lol the scaling for the black blade is DED

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Removing combos was a mistake

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You know that the fugs in ds3 had the same r1 roll attack right?

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r1 crouch is easy to dodge. It's just annoying when the duelist keeps spamming it like they have no skill or something.

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i miss my slab of deformed iron from souls... where Fume UGS FromSoft

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