Colossal Swords are a type of Weapon in Elden Ring (not to be confused with Colossal Weapons). Colossal Swords replace Ultra Greatswords from the Souls series. As their name implies, Colossal Swords are oversized swords, with lengths often exceeding the height of the Tarnished themselves. While they are extremely heavy and swing much slower than other swords, they make up for it with a long reach and massive damage output. Colossal Swords typically require very high Strength to wield properly- if the player falls a few points short of the requirements, wielding them two-handed can compensate for this. 

Colossal Swords are compatible with a range of different Ashes of War, allowing you to mix and match for whatever your needs may be.

 

Note: As of Patch 1.08, the Speed of Crouching and Rolling Attack has been slightly increased.

 

Elden Ring Colossal Sword Range Comparison

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Weapon Range Data for Colossal Swords in Elden Ring. Credits to user Kaj.

 

Elden Ring Colossal Swords

 

 

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Elden Ring Colossal Swords Base Values

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Name
Phy Mag Fire Ligh Holy Crit
Boost
Str Dex Int Fai Arc Wgt Skill
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Zweihander

141

67

-

40

-

40

-

40

-

40

100

45

19

D

11

D

-

-

-

-

-

-

15.5

 5 (- 8)

Stamp (Upward Cut)

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Greatsword

164

84

-

50

-

50

-

50

-

50

100

56

31

C

12

E

-

-

-

-

-

-

23

5 (- 8)

Stamp (Upward Cut)

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Watchdog's Greatsword

142

82

-

49

-

49

-

49

-

49

100

55

30

C

10

E

-

-

-

-

-

-

22

5 (- 8)

Stamp (Upward Cut)

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Troll's Golden Sword

155

76

-

46

-

46

-

46

-

46

100

51

29

D

10

D

-

-

-

-

-

-

19

22

Troll's Roar

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Troll Knight's Sword

124

70

80

55

-

43

-

43

-

43

100

50

20

D

14

D

18

-

-

-

-

18

22

Troll's Roar

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Royal Greatsword

112

71

134

63

-

44

-

44

-

44

100

52

26

D

18

E

22

D

-

-

-

-

20

20

Wolf's Assault

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Grafted Blade Greatsword

162

80

-

48

-

48

-

48

-

48

100

53

40

C

14

E

-

-

-

-

-

-

21

20

Oath of Vengeance

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Ruins Greatsword

 124

82

 37

56

-

50

-

50

-

50

100

56

50

B

-

-

16

E

-

-

-

-

23

25

Wave of Destruction

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Starscourge Greatsword

129

65

83

47

-

34

-

34

-

34

100

52

38

D

12

D

15

E

-

-

-

-

20

20 (- 20)

Starcaller Cry

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Godslayer's Greatsword

119

63

-

38

77

49

-

38

-

38

100

45

20

D

22

D

-

-

20

D

-

 17.5

15 (- 15)

The Queen's Black Flame

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Maliketh's Black Blade

127

68

-

36

-

36

-

36

82

49

100

55

34

D

12

E

-

-

20

D

-

-

22

40

Destined Death

Elden Ring Colossal Swords Max Standard Values

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Name Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Cri Sta Str Dex Int Fai Arc Any Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Bst Rst Wgt Upgrade
Godslayer's Greatsword 291 - 188 - - 100 120 D B - C - - 63 38 49 38 38 49 22 17.5 Somber Smithing Stones
Grafted Blade Greatsword 396 - - - - 100 160 B D - - - - 80 48 48 48 48 58 26 21 Somber Smithing Stones
Greatsword 401 - - - - 100 156 B D - - - - 84 50 50 50 50 67 28 23 Smithing Stones
Maliketh's Black Blade 311 - - - 200 100 156 B D - B - - 68 36 36 36 49 60 27 22 Somber Smithing Stones
Royal Greatsword 274 328 - - - 100 150 C D C - - - 71 63 44 44 44 57 26 20 Somber Smithing Stones
Ruins Greatsword 303 90 - - - 100 168 S - D - - - 82 56 50 50 50 61 28 23 Somber Smithing Stones
Starscourge Greatsword 316 203 - - - 100 156 B D D - - - 65 47 34 34 34 57 26 20 Somber Smithing Stones
Troll Knight's Sword 303 196 - - - 100 150 C C D - - - 70 55 43 43 43 55 25 18 Somber Smithing Stones
Troll's Golden Sword 379 - - - - 100 152 C D - - - - 76 46 46 46 46 61 25 19 Smithing Stones
Watchdog's Greatsword 347 - - - - 100 164 B E - - - - 82 49 49 49 49 66 27 22 Smithing Stones
Zweihander 345 - - - - 100 126 D C - - - - 67 40 40 40 40 54 22 15.5 Smithing Stones

 

Elden Ring Colossal Swords Max Heavy Upgrades

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Name Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Cri Sta Str Dex Int Fai Arc Any Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Bst Rst Wgt
Greatsword 349 - - - - 100 171 A - - - - - 84 50 50 50 50 61 28 23
Troll's Golden Sword 352 - - - - 100 152 B - - - - - 76 46 46 46 46 56 25 19
Watchdog's Greatsword 301 - - - - 100 180 S - - - - - 82 49 49 49 49 60 27 22
Zweihander 319 - - - - 100 126 B - - - - - 67 40 40 40 40 49 22 15.5

Elden Ring Colossal Swords Max Keen Upgrades

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Name Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Cri Sta Str Dex Int Fai Arc Any Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Bst Rst Wgt
Greatsword 373 - - - - 100 156 D B - - - - 84 50 50 50 50 61 28 23
Troll's Golden Sword 352 - - - - 100 152 E B - - - - 76 46 46 46 46 56 25 19
Watchdog's Greatsword 321 - - - - 100 164 D B - - - - 82 49 49 49 49 60 27 22
Zweihander 319 - - - - 100 126 E B - - - - 67 40 40 40 40 49 22 15.5

Elden Ring Colossal Swords Max Quality Upgrades

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Name Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Cri Sta Str Dex Int Fai Arc Any Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Bst Rst Wgt
Greatsword 325 - - - - 100 156 B B - - - - 84 50 50 50 50 61 28 23
Troll's Golden Sword 307 - - - - 100 152 B B - - - - 76 46 46 46 46 56 25 19
Watchdog's Greatsword 280 - - - - 100 164 B B - - - - 82 49 49 49 49 60 27 22
Zweihander 278 - - - - 100 126 B B - - - - 67 40 40 40 40 49 22 15.5

Elden Ring Colossal Swords Max Fire Upgrades

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Name Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Cri Sta Str Dex Int Fai Arc Any Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Bst Rst Wgt
Greatsword 270 - 270 - - 100 156 C E - - - - 79.8 47.5 62.5 57.5 47.5 56 26.6 23
Troll's Golden Sword 255 - 255 - - 100 152 C E - - - - 72.2 43.7 57.5 52.9 43.7 51 23.75 19
Watchdog's Greatsword 232 - 232 - - 100 164 B E - - - - 77.9 46.55 61.25 56.35 46.55 55 25.65 22
Zweihander 231 - 231 - - 100 126 C E - - - - 63.65 38 50 46 38 45 20.9 15.5

Elden Ring Colossal Swords Max Flame Upgrades

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Name Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Cri Sta Str Dex Int Fai Arc Any Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Bst Rst Wgt
Greatsword 310 - 310 - - 100 156 D E - D - - 79.8 47.5 62.5 57.5 47.5 56 26.6 23
Troll's Golden Sword 292 - 292 - - 100 152 D E - C - - 72.2 43.7 57.5 52.9 43.7 51 23.75 19
Watchdog's Greatsword 267 - 267 - - 100 164 C E - C - - 77.9 46.55 61.25 56.35 46.55 55 25.65 22
Zweihander 265 - 265 - - 100 126 D D - C - - 63.65 38 50 46 38 45 20.9 15.5

Elden Ring Colossal Swords Max Lightning Upgrades

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Name Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Cri Sta Str Dex Int Fai Arc Any Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Bst Rst Wgt
Greatsword 270 - - 270 - 100 156 E C - - - - 79.8 47.5 57.5 62.5 47.5 56 26.6 23
Troll's Golden Sword 255 - - 255 - 100 152 E C - - - - 72.2 43.7 52.9 57.5 43.7 51 23.75 19
Watchdog's Greatsword 232 - - 232 - 100 164 E B - - - - 77.9 46.55 56.35 61.25 46.55 55 25.65 22
Zweihander 231 - - 231 - 100 126 E C - - - - 63.65 38 46 50 38 45 20.9 15.5

Elden Ring Colossal Swords Max Sacred Upgrades

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Name Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Cri Sta Str Dex Int Fai Arc Any Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Bst Rst Wgt
Greatsword 310 - - - 310 100 156 D E - C - - 79.8 57.5 47.5 47.5 62.5 56 26.6 23
Troll's Golden Sword 292 - - - 292 100 152 D E - C - - 72.2 52.9 43.7 43.7 57.5 51 23.75 19
Watchdog's Greatsword 267 - - - 267 100 164 C E - C - - 77.9 56.35 46.55 46.55 61.25 55 25.65 22
Zweihander 265 - - - 265 100 126 D D - C - - 63.65 46 38 38 50 45 20.9 15.5

Elden Ring Colossal Swords Max Magic Upgrades

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Name Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Cri Sta Str Dex Int Fai Arc Any Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Bst Rst Wgt
Greatsword 310 310 - - - 100 156 E E C - - - 79.8 62.5 47.5 47.5 57.5 56 26.6 23
Troll's Golden Sword 292 292 - - - 100 152 E E C - - - 72.2 57.5 43.7 43.7 52.9 51 23.75 19
Watchdog's Greatsword 267 267 - - - 100 164 D E B - - - 77.9 61.25 46.55 46.55 56.35 55 25.65 22
Zweihander 265 265 - - - 100 126 E E B - - - 63.65 50 38 38 46 45 20.9 15.5

Elden Ring Colossal Swords Max Cold Upgrades

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Name Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Cri Sta Str Dex Int Fai Arc Any Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Bst Rst Wgt
Greatsword 286 214 - - - 100 156 B D D - - frostbite status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(153) 79.8 57.5 47.5 47.5 47.5 56 26.6 23
Troll's Golden Sword 270 203 - - - 100 152 C D C - - frostbite status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(153) 72.2 52.9 43.7 43.7 43.7 51 23.75 19
Watchdog's Greatsword 246 185 - - - 100 164 B E C - - frostbite status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(153) 77.9 56.35 46.55 46.55 46.55 55 25.65 22
Zweihander 244 183 - - - 100 126 C C C - - frostbite status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(153) 63.65 46 38 38 38 45 20.9 15.5

Elden Ring Colossal Swords Max Poison Upgrades

Quick Search of All Weapons

Name Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Cri Sta Str Dex Int Fai Arc Any Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Bst Rst Wgt
Greatsword 341 - - - - 100 156 B D - - D poison status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(138) 79.8 47.5 47.5 47.5 47.5 56 28 23
Troll's Golden Sword 322 - - - - 100 152 C D - - D poison status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(138) 72.2 43.7 43.7 43.7 43.7 51 25 19
Watchdog's Greatsword 294 - - - - 100 164 B E - - D poison status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(138) 77.9 46.55 46.55 46.55 46.55 55 27 22
Zweihander 292 - - - - 100 126 C C - - D poison status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(138) 63.65 38 38 38 38 45 22 15.5

Elden Ring Colossal Swords Max Blood Upgrades

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Name Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Cri Sta Str Dex Int Fai Arc Any Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Bst Rst Wgt
Greatsword 341 - - - - 100 156 B D - - D
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79.8 47.5 47.5 47.5 47.5 56 26.6 23
Troll's Golden Sword 322 - - - - 100 152 C D - - D
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72.2 43.7 43.7 43.7 43.7 51 23.75 19
Watchdog's Greatsword 294 - - - - 100 164 B E - - D
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77.9 46.55 46.55 46.55 46.55 55 25.65 22
Zweihander 292 - - - - 100 126 C C - - D
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63.65 38 38 38 38 45 20.9 15.5

Elden Ring Colossal Swords Max Occult Upgradces

Quick Search of All Weapons

Name Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Cri Sta Str Dex Int Fai Arc Any Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Bst Rst Wgt
Greatsword 357 - - - - 100 156 D E - - B - 84 50 50 50 50 61 28 23
Troll's Golden Sword 337 - - - - 100 152 D E - - B - 76 46 46 46 46 56 25 19
Watchdog's Greatsword 308 - - - - 100 164 D E - - B - 82 49 49 49 49 60 27 22
Zweihander 306 - - - - 100 126 E D - - B - 67 40 40 40 40 49 22 15.5

 




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    • Anonymous

      cool, had to spend a few minutes narrowing down which one the admins had for zero reason renamed, that wasn’t at all annoying

      seriously, not all of us read Japanese comics from the 80s… just use the in-game name, please

      • Anonymous

        I'm disappointed that the Astora Greatsword from Dark Souls 3 didn't return in some way (obviously without any ties to Astora or Dark Souls), that thing was honestly the best Ultra Greatsword in that game for it's weight and how it still hit like a truck despite weighing LESS than the Claymore.

        I know that it wouldn't have the same absurdly low weight that it did given that the Zweihander went from 10.00 units to 15.5 (so probably 13.5 units, which ngl would still be great), could have probably given the Guardian's Swordspear or the Bloodhound's Fang some competition for best Dexterity weapon.

        Can always hope that it's successor comes in the DLC.

        • Anonymous

          For all people wondering: GUGS is referring to the regular "Greatsword"

          It totally looks like the sword straight out from the manga Berserk, which Miyazaki loves and refers to in many FromSoft Games, where it belongs to a charakter called Guts hence the name Guts Ultra Great Sword = GUGS

          • Anonymous

            The overhead R1 light attack from DS3 is now an R2 heavy attack on all Colossal Swords, with exception of Zweihander (R2 is a stab), Troll Knight's Sword (R2 is a stab) and Greatsword (R2 is a sweep).

            • Anonymous

              Lets make a class thats 5x heavier. Slower then most. Uses enormous stamina. Do the same damage as a small weapon while having no hyper armour and being highly susceptible to a aim punch.

              Fromsoft

              • Anonymous

                Someone must explain me why they removed the vertical R1 slam from DS2/3 and why the only UGSs with pokes are the Zwei (good) and the Troll Knight (bad).

                Seriously From, don't always make step forwards in some areas of your game design while backpedalling in others.

                • Anonymous

                  Why do we only get speed and poise buffs. WE NEED DAMAGE BUFF. WHY IS THE IDIOT WITH 2 SMALL SWORD AND 2 TINY SPEARS OUTDAMAGING ME??!??!?!?

                  Thank you for coming to my ted talk.

                  • Anonymous

                    GUGS = Ultra great sword.
                    Admins for this page are just shoving their shitty anime references down people's throats.

                    • Anonymous

                      These honestly are in such a weird place i think. Just referring to gugs and zwei and mostly using ds3 for comparison. Gugs needs too much str (i think 28 or at least 30 would make it easier for alot of ppl to incorporate it) also it weighs just a bit too much, 23 makes you gotta compromise alot of your other gear and/or stats. Zweis wielding stats are fine, but it weighs way 2 dang much considering its pretty much only as strong as great weapons (ghammers CGS gaxes) zwei should weigh about 12 at the most honestly, otherwise you may as well just use a dismounter or something. Gugs is strong, but still fairly close to zwei and Gweapons because for some reason they decided to just keep making them faster and faster instead of stronger and stronger. If they made em a bit slower, lighter, less str req for gugs, and increased their damage by a good amount, i think it would make them alot more interesting in pvp and alot funner for pve! Also add flame strike AoW!

                      • Anonymous

                        what the **** is GUGS? some people are saying is just the Ultra Great Sword so then why is it called GUGS? is this some shitty anime thing Im too normal to understand?

                        • Anonymous

                          It’s far from un-react-able in its current state. And what videos are you referencing, guy below me? Stop whining and git gud. It’s plenty balanced now compared to plenty of other things that could use your whining about.

                          • Anonymous

                            WHY would they bring back crouch poke? It was still good even after the nerf but now it’s unreactable and too fast to punish with a prediction jump. And it still combos into offhand halberd. Oh and the rest of the move set is really good now so it’s just overkill and my collosal sword is already easy mode if my opponent doesn’t mirror. I can’t even have fun with my zwei now without someone assuming I’m a dirt bag and switching to their own zwei to only cr1 and can crouch running attack. I don’t even understand why they allow crouch attacking at all. Roll attack animations are all supposed to be balanced out by having the warning of a roll. And the Telegraph is what balances out cr1 being the fastest,highest poise damage attacks of a move set with the shortest recoveries that can’t be punished. Without the roll there is no Telegraph and spamming crouch is enough to make even G9 panic roll in his videos. G9, one of the best, panic rolls like a noob when twerking starts and can only counter it with his own cr1. Oh and why is crouch sprinting even a thing? You can’t even punish the twerking with distance since they can sprint right up while bobbing during crouch. Endure into erdtree heal with ritual shield+scale talisman/heavy armor is the cheese I use to make these people miserable. If I dragged it out for 3 minutes and forced them to switch to royal remains/quickstep, then I’ve given them what they deserve.

                            • Anonymous

                              If they don't add a colossal sword with a verticle r1 in the DLC imma cry. I just wanna be able to roll catch again mister miyazaki

                              • Anonymous

                                Really all they needed to do was lower the motion value on the poke and make it parriable like it was in 3, then it wouldn't be so oppressive on everything. Having a single fast attack among all the slow ones was what made them compete with other weapons, now they have nothing. The only ultra worth using for its r1s is godslayer, and that was true even before 1.07.

                                • Anonymous

                                  wish the mods on this page would change the Greatsword from GUGS in the weapon range picture. Not all of us watch anime and we don't need you shoving this **** down our throats when we came here to get information on the game.

                                  • Anonymous

                                    Aaand I wasted stones on this for nothing. 2 moves now at half refresh rate slow-mo. Breaks the rythm. I can roll back on Axes and Maces, just would like mt mats back, that stuff doesn't grow on trees, From.

                                    Having PVE messed by whiny maiden less PVPers...never change From. It's lovely to commit 50 stat point for no reward.

                                    • Anonymous

                                      Crouch poke is nerfed but the colossal swords aren't fast enough to compensate. They are much much more usable and with the poise buff, they're exceedingly viable in PvE but against players who suck up to meta, these are too slow to roll catch and will quickly lose to 2h thrusting swords. Worst yet is that poise is now neuthered for PvP so good luck fighting against rolling stabs.

                                      • Anonymous

                                        Thank god they balanced this weapon class but the rolling/crouching attack is completely useless. I'd say switch the animation to something similar or just like the rolling attack of the Astora greatsword from ds3 but make it parryable just like ds3 so it cant be spammed.

                                        • Anonymous

                                          So regular greatswords got abysmal hammer-like ground slam on roll and croutch attacks, but colossal swords get a lightning fast poke? Just...why?

                                          • Anonymous

                                            Just switch animation of rolling/crouching light attack between colossal swords and claymore to balance this out.

                                            • Anonymous

                                              Say what you will about the Colossal greatsword class, but I for one am glad it exists. I was born with a disability that means I only have 1 finger on each hand. Fromsoft was extremely considerate to provide a weapon class I can win with even with this disability, very inclusive. Oh also my disability left me blind and with only 3 brain cells but the colossal weapon class allows me to consistently be within the top 5 on the Elden ring pvp ladder. Thank you Fromsoft for caring for the disabled like me.

                                              • Anonymous

                                                Crouch poke is literally just a brain check. If you have one, you can play around someone using it. If not, oh well.

                                                • Anonymous

                                                  The crouch poke reminds me of the unpatched version of ds3’s Astora greatsword rolling attack—which was an unparryable, extremely fast slamming move that somehow did counter thrusting damage.

                                                  • Anonymous

                                                    Remember when ultra greatswords used to be powerful without you having to basically just spam 2 moves over and over for them to be viable late game and in pvp? I miss those times.

                                                    • Anonymous

                                                      What kinda weapons do you guys want from up coming DLCs? I want ugs' that doesn't look like garbage, in DS3 they were so elegant. Even more viceral looking ones like FUME UGS was a thing of beauty. This game lacks anything similar to Cathedral UGS, Astora UGS or Lothric UGS. GUGS looks like garbage, its weirdly circlular shaped, it looked so much better in previous games. the only actually great looking UGS is Blaidds and thats a str/int weapon, not suitable for every build. Zweihander looks great as always but thats about it.

                                                      • Anonymous

                                                        To the 99% of this comment section, we get it. You're salty about the crouch pokes of these, can you please say something other than complaining? Not meaning to complain about complaining, but Jesus.

                                                        • Anonymous

                                                          It's worth noting that the horseback heavy attacks of these weapons are amazing, they do great damage, simply charging them does good damage, they flip most average sized enemies like pancakes in a frying pan and many that aren't flipped atleast get knocked back/heavily staggered, and they are great against Dragons if you hit their heads, the light attack on horse though is just straight worse tho, it's the same speed, it does not combo, it's awkward to hit enemies with, and does much less damage than a heavy attack.

                                                          • Anonymous

                                                            why does the weapon range data picture say GUGS for the standard greatsword? needlessly complicates things.

                                                            • I think this wiki got this wrong, this is actually the spear section, Fromsoft just decided to delete Colossal Swords from the game.

                                                              But seriously though, there are some very good reasons why people love to abuse the crouch poke and how it's busted as hell lol:
                                                              - Comes out extremely quickly
                                                              - Has really good tracking while locked on
                                                              - The poke does a lot of stun damage, meaning you can hit someone, crouch while they are stil in their stun animation, and then roll-catch them into oblivion
                                                              - The hitbox is chunky as hell, and it's a lot wider than it looks
                                                              - The hyper armor start up is exremely quick, meaning you can poise through enemy attacks with little risk of being poise broken

                                                              Obviously, a nerf to the crouch pokes is pretty necessary for the sake of balance. But I would like to counter with some buffs I'd love to see:
                                                              - Fix the Manual Attack Aiming option (which for some reason literally does nothing atm)
                                                              - Increase the attack speed

                                                              Something I would also love to see is the return of the vertical 2-handed R1s from DS2/DS3 on some weapons like the Greatsword and the Ruins Greatsword (and maybe others). Sure, you'd lose the broad sweeps, but it feels pretty neat imo and the 2nd R1 can hit people behind you. But at this point it's just wishful thinking if From ever goes that far (though modders have proven that they can alter movesets, so maybe they're just stubborn).

                                                              • Someone add to all these pages the stagger dmg, or an unified page where all weapon classes are showing their stagger dmg potential, of course +25 can get much higher with heavy ash of war.

                                                                • Anonymous

                                                                  It doesn't matter what weapon class a weapon is; if it has a fast poke attack, 90% of the playerbase will rely entirely of that single move. Colossal swords are no different.

                                                                  • Anonymous

                                                                    WARNING: WALL OF TEXT INCOMING!

                                                                    Moveset:

                                                                    Not only do these moveset look like someone who cannot wield the weapon itself, but it also looks like our characters are about to drop the weapon at anytime cause of the lack of strength. Do you feel like you have inhumane strength when you use these weapons? Cause I sure don't. It lacks power, speed and colossal weapons and generally do not have many ash of wars.

                                                                    Compare these badly designed weapon movesets with Fume Ultra Greatsword from dark souls 3 and you will see the difference in the moveset speed and damage. It was an easy to avoid weapon moveset, but the enemy who used it could swing and miss still have a chance to avoid your counter attack, so the enemy and you had to actually play mind games and other abilities to win.

                                                                    Balancing:

                                                                    Also what the hell is the damage balancing between these and greatswords? The Iron Greatsword (Greatsword Class) will outperform the Watchdog's Greatsword (Colossal Sword) in almost every category DESPITE weighing 22 in weight while Iron Greatsword weighs only 12. So Fromsoftware want you to spend more strength points and endurance just to be able to do less damage?
                                                                    Watchdog's Greatsword also deal less damage than "Greatsword (Guts' weapon) and if it's because of the lore which I quote "Though decorated with the watchman's eye, the pupil was taken by graverobbers and is now hollow, leaving this sword a mere lump of stone."

                                                                    Lets compare this to another balancing they've done, spears. The pike is the longest weapon in the game and the standard damage is 115 without upgrades and weighing 7.5. Partizan another spear that is shorter deals 123 and weighs 6.5. You know why I compare these? Because they are exacly like Greatsword vs Watchdog's Greatsword, identitcal. The Greatsword representing the Pike while the Watchdog's Greatsword representing the Partizan.

                                                                    Watchdog's Greatsword SHOULD deal more damage based on the spear balancing, fix this.

                                                                    Build variety?:

                                                                    Also why is there no arcane Colossal Sword OR Colossal weapon? You'd think it would be Ruins Greatsword since Hero (The most optimized class for it) would use arcane instead since it's lowest stat is literally intelligence, but no. There's no bleed/poison OR eochaid (arcane based magic) colossal weapon. Give me an Eochaid Colossal Sword or something else.

                                                                    Oh another note, counter attacks after blocking sucks balls, try to get that on someone.

                                                                    Ending:

                                                                    I'm going to stick with my Knight's Greatsword since it feels more balanced and since I like to to pretend I'm actually a Kenneth Haight Knight. Anyways, thanks for reading and have a good day :)









                                                                    • Anonymous

                                                                      (Speaking of PvP not PvE) CS users really basing their entire playstyle on a single move and seriously considering it fun

                                                                      • Anonymous

                                                                        Using crouch poke with standard level of poise p- dubious but ok.
                                                                        Using crouch poke with max poise... BRING OUT THE INSTA BLEED/MADNESS BLOOD INFUSED FINGERPRINT SHIELD WITH SHIELD CRASH AND ROYAL KNIGHTS RESOLVE.

                                                                        • These weapons are awesome, but paired with ultra high poise they can be kinda problematic in PvP--hence poise higher than 45 being banned while wielding an UGS atm--so capping max poise while in PvP down to at least under Storm Stomp's 110 poise damage could be a good idea.

                                                                          • Anonymous

                                                                            I feel it was kind of a missed opportunity to put in the vertical r1s from DS2 and DS3 in Elden Ring because literally every weapon in this class has horizontal r1s

                                                                            The only CS with a unique r1 is the Godslayer's Greatsword, and even then they're still horizontal swings

                                                                            The weapons i'd definitely give that moveset to would be the ones with a big emphasis in Strength scaling like the Greatsword and the Ruins Greatsword

                                                                            • Anonymous

                                                                              Make sure to carry soap with you if you run into one of these in PvP, you'll have to clean the **** off of you after they finish crouch poking.

                                                                              • Anonymous

                                                                                Dissapointed there is no naturally Dexterity scaling Colossal Sword like the Astora Greatsword from Dark Souls 3.

                                                                                • Anonymous

                                                                                  They absolutely ruined colossal swords in this game. I always loved supersized chunky swords to slam foes with pure strength into the ground, but this weapon class sucks as a whole, except for crouch poke. I tried dueling without crouch pokes, and 3 matches in a row, I could not land even ONE hit. The swings redefine clunky and it’s impossible to hit a skilled player who will easily outspace everything giving them free damage. The crouch poke makes it at least a little viable, but even then it’s very predictable and easy to dodge on reaction. Unsheathe or transient moonlight can also out-trade basically every attack. They aren’t going to re-work the entire moveset, and with every panic rolling scrub complaining about it, colossals will likely get their pokes nerfed soon.

                                                                                  • Anonymous

                                                                                    11 different colossal swords means 11 different ways you can get owned by quick-paced pro VWS dual wielders, don't even bother tards you'll end up eating dust

                                                                                    • Anonymous

                                                                                      It’s very important to remember that if your weapon had the crouch-poke move to do no other attacks.
                                                                                      It’s faster than most weapons and stronger and unparryable. Combine it with giants poke for a real skill driven build.

                                                                                      • Anonymous

                                                                                        Hear me out: Crouch Poke *by itself* is fine.

                                                                                        In PvE, and as long as no lag is involved.

                                                                                        If you can clearly see when the opponent is attacking and when said attack is going to hit you, proper spacing is fairly easy and the entire weapon class would be almost unplayable as always unless you really know what you're doing. With this game having even worse lag that DS3 somehow, you're dealing with high damage pokes that are sometimes practically unpunishable since the hit comes out before the animation plays, and the opponent is gone by the time you'd have your window of opportunity to punish.

                                                                                        I'd rather have them make PvP more bearable by fixing the atrocious connection issues before they nerf the one move that makes Colossal Swords even halfway viable.

                                                                                        • Anonymous

                                                                                          Fromsoft finally found a new word that describes straight/broad swords that are bigger than greatswords, you know, other than "ULTRA" greatswords.

                                                                                          • Anonymous

                                                                                            r1 crouch is easy to dodge. It's just annoying when the duelist keeps spamming it like they have no skill or something.

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