Colossal Swords | Elden Ring Wiki

The worst UGS lineup in all of fromsoft games

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I want to start a war. Zwei > guts.

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clang

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yapping level today: catastrophic

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basement dweller weapon class indeed. One comment was enough to get all these weebs butthurt

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Holy hell these are so dull in comparsion to the previous games

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Ruins Greatsword is truly legendary.

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The Godslayer Greatsword is by far the ultimate weapon in the game, just practice on landing the AoW and nothing can stand in its way.

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Most of them look too cartoony/anime for me. I love zweihander and I love Goslayer. I'd love to have some thin colossal swords in the DLC, something closer to Faron GS, or Astora GS than gugs

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"Clown weapon class"
I'm sorry for the stomp buddy i know the R1's can be mean to your bleed build

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"Clown weapons; you can easily counter it." I annihilate people with colossal swords. Bet he's one of the people I 1v3rd. 

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clown weapon class, pick a real weapon (literally anything else) whenever i see someone using one of these things i just pull one out too and screw with them. when they can't get carried by hyper armor they just fall apart, it's so funny

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Give us the spine of a fire giant as a UGS kind of like if we got a UGS combo of Sword of Milos/Blasphemous Blade, make it a STR/FTH weapon, and then give it a skill that buffs the wepons so every time you swing or thrust it a wave of fire comes out of it

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It’s funny how half the colossal swords have the word greatsword in it, even though greatswords are different weapon classes entirely.

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All I see here is the Greatsword and then a whole bunch of trash

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The 4567th rolling r1 was the mixup

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The 4567th rolling r1 was the mixup

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They need their recovery time made less just a bit because currently this problem alone makes them rather unusable in a lot of places. PvE, you can line up a perfect punish and attack once but an enemy that cant be staggered with this will hit you before you can recover out of your attack. PvP, you can simply dodge in and backstab the poor chap before he can recover out of his attack.

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The true colossal sword experience: somehow your attack misses for the 94758686th time in a row but it doesn't really matter because when it hits it will destroys your foe's health bar. Who cares if using a colossal it's as slow as a slug? Stance breaking everything in your path and seeing the big damage number on the screen comes to save the day once again.

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bring back RKPGS from, not those fugly radahan swords but a real paired ugs to make the gs crowd seethe

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IDK why this isn't mentioned anywhere, but this weapon class has, at least in my experience, a physical damage negation increase when swinging regular attacks. You can see this in PVP, as attacks do substantially less damage if they're swinging compared to if they aren't.

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I would casually jump onto fextra every few weeks and drop a "what is GUGs?" just to stir the pot. Now that it's gone, "what happened to GUGs?" causes just as much strife.

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RIP GUGS the 2nd best fextralife meme (first is on ds2 elite knight set xomments)

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Are these weapons parryable?

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The only thing someone needs to do to entirely invalidate these weapons in PvP is to use a Dagger, the recovery times are so short you can bait any attack so they miss, hit them once, then roll away before they can even attack again, completely unpunishable. Every attack from a Colossal Sword is reactable, so the only way they would be able to hit you is if you let them or they predicted when you would try to attack, they attack in anticipation as a read, then your brain doesn't catch up to your hands and you make a mistake and trade on accident. Lights Bows are just as bad if not worse, just roll away any time they try hitting you and perform a rolling shot, they literally can't do anything to stop you other than literally changing to a faster weapon. This is why every user of these weapons is spamming the crouch and rolling attacks, they are the only attacks in the move set that are barely fast enough to be usable in a setting where the opponent is of equal skill and kind of know how to fight Colossal Swords, and even still they are too slow to the point where they get bullied by Daggers and Light Bows. You can still beat 99% of players you encounter online who aren't aware of the counters, but it's still completely disheartening to occasionally watch my character get shanked to death for trying to do anything with a Colossal Sword.

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why did they change GUGS?

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Hope DLC has a colossal sword with a vertical moveset

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Is every UGS R1 in this game that dragging sweep?

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i have all of them

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big sword go brrrrrrr

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I sorely miss elegant and deadly Black Knight Greatsword. Landing a first hit of R2 on your opponent and comboing it into burger flip was something else.

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I miss the vertical moveset from Dark Souls 3

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The true EZ mode of Elden Ring = colossal swords

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Wowowwowo big sword

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Grafted Blade > Greatsword

Higher maximum damage, easier to upgrade.

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All of the great weapon classes have ballooned into straight up final fantasy sized nonsense. Demons and DS1 are the only games to have decently sized massive weapons. It all went downhill design wise with ds2.

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**** you from, give me astora already.
kind regards,
tarnished

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Really wish they had a Konda-style sword in this game like the Fume greatsword from DS2 and 3

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Why did they change GUGS?

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The PKCS is light, manageable and offers relatively high points in casul slaying.
-PKCS Pope

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PKCS is astonishingly better u are all casuls
-PKCS Pope

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Zweihander my beloved, you look as beautiful as ever. It's a perfect colossal sword for someone who just wants to cosplay as a simple medieval knight. Royal Greatsword is also a great option if you're trying to look more fancy.

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what happened to gugs

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DS3 ultra greatswords: Zweihander was your baseline, great moveset, thrust attacks, low stamina costs, does fine with basically any infusion, relatively low weight and requirements. Astora greatsword was incredibly light and uniquely good in dex, int, fth, and luck infusions, and had Charge on L2, making it drastically different from the other UGs. Greatsword was your classic heavy infuse high damage high range smacker, no thrust attacks, none needed. Fume did Strike damage so despite its lower AR would often hit harder than Greatsword, blocks like a shield during Stomp, and has thrusts. Similarly Cathedral GS also did strike and thrust, albeit with lower damage, but had less insane requirements than FUGS and could be infused, doing quite well on a Refined or elemental gem. Profaned had such low requirements that it could be wielded at level 1, and could buff itself, making it the best for low levels but still quite viable at high level quality. Farron had a completely unique playstyle and moveset, then RKPG came along and was similar in some respects, but still markedly different, with a unique L2, different L1s, and innate fire damage. Lothric GS had massive innate lightning and was incredible on heavy, sharp, and lightning infusions, doing absurd damage if you managed to hit that full charged thrust. Black Knight was a compelling reason to play quality, with its rocket launch 2HR2 and tricky-timing thrust 1HR2, not to mention the bonus damage to demons for PvE. And Lorian's was the only truly redundant thing there was, it was quite similar to the Profaned GS, but a bit stronger and with higher requirements.


And in Elden Ring we have four infusible options, which should really be considered just two. Zweihander is lighter and has lower requirements, Greatsword is bigger and does more damage. Watchdog's is just worse than Greatsword in just about every way and Troll's is worse than all of them. Troll Knight's is an embarrassing disappointment, it looks so cool but a Cold or Magic Zweihander will lap it all day, and it is locked to a pretty bad L2, unlike Zwei, which can use the same L2 among countless others. Royal is decent, though it REALLY should always deal frost buildup, but co-op guys, I'm telling ya, you are not gonna hit the invader with that L2. Unless you're Blaidd cosplaying, try just using a cold zwei with a better ash. Grafted is a magic wand that casts Endure+Godrick'sGreatRune and then goes back in the backpack, because Greatsword is just better. Ruins is a magic wand that casts LegallyDistinctFromBlasphemousBladeL2. Starscourge also tends to devolve into an L2 machine because its dual wield moveset is tragically disappointing. Godslayer's does less damage, both physical and fire, than Blasphemous, despite being a colossal, and its L2 is unusable as of 1.10, a butterfly could blink in Taiwan and it will stagger you. Maliketh's is okay for PvP as colossals go, though again being locked to a slow L2 is a tough sell, but positively insulting as a super-lategame reward right before all that is left in the playthrough is a gauntlet of bosses that massively resist Holy. So basically the somber ones are cool but most of them are pretty terrible. The infusible options are Zweihander and Greatsword. The ash of war system was the worst thing to happen to a Fromsoft game.

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Unsure if it's because of the recent update but how the hell am I getting staggered out of my attacks from a damn whip at 100 poise?

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They need to bring astora gs back in the dlc :(

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Hey, can we change the Troll Knight in the range diagram because I'm stupid and don't realize that it's clearly the Troll Knights Sword. Also I hate anime references

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What's the point of trading if we do the same damage as most of the other weapons, you always tie the trade or lose. older games had combo to hyper armour -> combo. with combos gone trades need to be worth it. good luck trading with someone with dual spears with thrust dmg boosted. Give this bad boy and other collasal the well-deserved damage boost that is not just hinged on crazy weapon skills.

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Why tf is everyone on about “thank da lawd dat the schtewpidt gugs thing is gone!”
Like, what about it was stupid? It’s a clear reference to berserk, it would be confused with the great sword class if it was called it’s actual name, and a metric buck-ton of dark souls players play elden ring as well, so they’re probably used to the colossal swords being called Ultra Greatswords. Hell, I’ve played dark souls III for about thirty minutes, maybe an hour, and even then I don’t say “go touch the grace” I say “light the bonfire”.
So, would anyone kindly give me context as to why someone would see it as stupid? Do ya’ll just detest and loath berserk?

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Yeah that Gugs meme was stupid but was it really so important that you lot need to keep bringing it up nearly a year after it's been removed?

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i too am happy that the stupid gugs thing has been removed

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i too am happy that the stupid gugs thing has been removed

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YES!, the silly GUGs meme is gone.

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The Greatsword is a some what mix up of the swords of guts b4 dragonslayer, it's sord of too thicc thou
Not like it be Lothric knight greatsword thin but it can be a 20% flatter
So it retains the feels of chunk of a iron
wish could cook on it like a pan

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Recently watched some Berserk video and the GS is really simular to one of Guts sword.
Considering Elden ring have many inspiration from the manga, the graph does checks out.
Its a fun little easter egg to be had.

Shame thay removed it though, missing a chance of learn a great manga but it does helps with new comers that cant understand the relation of two franchise.

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glad they got rid of the stupid 'GUGS' in the weapon range infographic. that was annoying.

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I miss Astora ultragreatsword dearly

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It has physical damage that will always be lower than Guts' Greatsword even at 99 STR, but it has a bigger ramp for infusions; so it's great for hybrid STR builds.

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Weapon Range Data changed the Guts UGS to normal GS? **** this Berserk hater.

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crouch poke is really good vs quicksteppers, doesnt do anything against bloodhound step though

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Having lots of fun dual welding colossal swords, even with suboptimal stats, just having the minimum requirements to use and not fat roll, I'm destroying everything in my path in high level areas like Dragonbarrow.

That said, the power stance rolling attack kinda sucks. Not only does it has pretty bad range but also bad tracking too.

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The crouch attack looks so stupid.
That is not what a proper attack looks like, you just flop the sword forward without any power behind it.
It is also faster than the crouch attack of greatswords, which makes no sense considering these are the heavy slow versions.

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There always be type of people who use Zweihander or GUGS and repeatedly press guarding whenever they're going to attack or when they defeated the opponent like as if they're a pro player. Surely, it's not disrespectful, but it's kinda cringe, like why can't you just be normal? Why do you need to always act cool and edgy even though you're really not?

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Ytf do a third of these scale with intelligence? It’s like the most annoying nonsensical stat combination especially when most spells that synergize well with colossal swords use faith

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Playing a bit of DS3 makes me miss the vertical slams a lot for colossal swords in Elden Ring. I (hope) the DLC adds one with that moveset two handed.

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so i can put seppuku on a halberd and a LANCE, but not a big sword?

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yay the dumb stupid dumb 'GUGS' obscure anime reference has been removed it

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Why dont these have innate hyper armour on most attacks? Fix your game

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Good critical hit weapon on a blood build in pvp, since it hits twice it will usually trigger bleed in a single backstab or riposte

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There's like only 2 non boss enemies that wield a colossal sword, odd since in ds3 there were like 4 or 5. I imagine we'll get a group of knights in the dlc that use only heavy stuff like Greataxe/sword black knights

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i used cheat engine to put unsheathe on the greatsword and it did like 4k damage

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I believe crouching and jumping should both leave you open to instability dmg. Crouch/jump spam need risk/reward rebalancing and I don’t think crouching attacks should have hyper armor either… unless you think spears should do double damage and get the same speed/hyper armor as collosal pokes?

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Not too bad of a farming spot in Giant-Conquering Hero's Grave. I had 212 Discovery while farming and I got it on the 10th Watchdog. Just keep at it everyone!

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They just keep buffing these, which don't need a buff at all, and then nerf weird stuff that 3 people use. I just don't get it.

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If you are somewhat semi-decent at the game (pve), these are a lot more powerful than any bleed build.

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These are a lot better than any dex weapon in PvE. Don't know why you would use anything else.

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Crouch poke, crouch poke, crouch poke, roll, crouch poke... points down.

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I miss the dark souls weapons in this game... where is the fume greatsword? or artorias greatsword? This game made greatswords be so usless and made dex so op...

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Not saying these weapons are bad, but in terms of PVE they're nowhere near as good as the Ultra Greatswords in the previous games, particularly back in Ds 1 and 2 where they were some of the strongest weapons in the game if you could get used to the timing, Their movesets and damage in this game is so nerfed compared to Ds1 and 2

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Nice, they fixed the naming on the range infographic. Glad people still understand what exactly a wiki is supposed to be.

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Fun fact: In 1.09, the Ruins Greatsword surpassed the Heavy GUGS for pure Physical damage at high strength values, and that's not even mentioning its additional bit of magic damage. The scaling on the Ruins Greatsword is just bananas. In exchange, of course, it has the second worst length while the GUGS has the best length, although the Ruins Greatsword has a powerful ranged unique weapon art. Both weapons can be acquired very early (although the GUGS is just a grab while the Ruins Greatsword requires beating the Misbegotten Warrior x Crucible Knight duo boss.)

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Now every time I see a big sword In PVP I get flashbacks of the Estoc.

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Holy ****, it's hard to understate how much Colossal Swords trivalize 99% of the open world.

Your most accurate swing on Torrent is also the one that knocks up light/medium sized enemies its comedic and sad at the same time.

It'd be more impressive if you could find a way to lose if actually trying.

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They could fix crouch poke hitboxes on these, now its time to balance pokes on greatspears and rapiers

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They could fix crouch poke hitboxes on these, now its time to balance pokes on greatspears and rapiers

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Plenty of chads missing in this page. 80% of this comment section is full of whiny complaints about forgettable stuff.

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I have a sneaking suspicion that none of these have the vertical slam light attack from ds2/3 because they were unable to fix aimpunch properly, so they just had to scrap the moveset.

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what is gugs its not in the game am I missing something

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change gugs to greatsword. thats what its called in game, no reason to have it named differently here

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is that le epicc wholesome heccin reference to the GODLY manga Berserk(TM) by the GOD Kendo Muira (pbuh)? EPIC!

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I do think they over-weight the weapons in these games. a real life historical zweihander (yes they actually exist) only weighed between 4.4 and 8.8 pounds. Any that weighed more than 8.8 were confined to ceremonial use. Yes I understand it is a game and realism isn't the point. I can be stun-locked by rats while using bull-goat armor and 2-handing a colossal weapon. realism doesn't exist in this game lol. Just something to think about for those that like to think about realism in games.

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I love the sound the running attack makes with these weapons. Just so satifying.

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why didnt you use the in game name its just confusing for people who dont get that its a reference, just call it “Greatsword,” this is a wiki page not fanfic

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If pvp is so broken why do you all continue to do it?

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change the gugs name its so dumb

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change gugs name to greatsword. is not the name in game.

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completely outclass colossal weapons for pvp, similar damage, without the plagued moveset and aimpunch

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not everyone watches anime, why is a sword named after it

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cool, had to spend a few minutes narrowing down which one the admins had for zero reason renamed, that wasn’t at all annoying

seriously, not all of us read Japanese comics from the 80s… just use the in-game name, please

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I'm disappointed that the Astora Greatsword from Dark Souls 3 didn't return in some way (obviously without any ties to Astora or Dark Souls), that thing was honestly the best Ultra Greatsword in that game for it's weight and how it still hit like a truck despite weighing LESS than the Claymore.

I know that it wouldn't have the same absurdly low weight that it did given that the Zweihander went from 10.00 units to 15.5 (so probably 13.5 units, which ngl would still be great), could have probably given the Guardian's Swordspear or the Bloodhound's Fang some competition for best Dexterity weapon.

Can always hope that it's successor comes in the DLC.

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