Colossal Swords are a type of Weapon in Elden Ring (not to be confused with Colossal Weapons). Colossal Swords replace Ultra Greatswords from the Souls series. As their name implies, Colossal Swords are oversized swords, with lengths often exceeding the height of the Tarnished themselves. While they are extremely heavy and swing much slower than other swords, they make up for it with a long reach and massive damage output. Colossal Swords typically require very high Strength to wield properly- if the player falls a few points short of the requirements, wielding them two-handed can compensate for this. 

Colossal Swords are compatible with a range of different Ashes of War, allowing you to mix and match for whatever your needs may be.

Note: As of Patch 1.08, the Speed of Crouching and Rolling Attack has been slightly increased

Note: As of Patch 1.09attribute scaling and the speed of guard counters for colossal swords has increased

 

Elden Ring Colossal Sword Range Comparison

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Weapon Range Data for Colossal Swords in Elden Ring. Credits to user Kaj. Note: "Gugs" = Greatsword

 

Elden Ring Colossal Swords

 

 

Colossal Swords Showcase

 

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Elden Ring Colossal Swords Base Values

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Name
Phy Mag Fire Ligh Holy Crit
Boost
Str Dex Int Fai Arc Wgt Skill
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Zweihander

141

67

-

40

-

40

-

40

-

40

100

45

19

D

11

D

-

-

-

-

-

-

15.5

 5 (- 8)

Stamp (Upward Cut)

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Greatsword

164

84

-

50

-

50

-

50

-

50

100

56

31

C

12

E

-

-

-

-

-

-

23

5 (- 8)

Stamp (Upward Cut)

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Watchdog's Greatsword

142

82

-

49

-

49

-

49

-

49

100

55

30

C

10

E

-

-

-

-

-

-

22

5 (- 8)

Stamp (Upward Cut)

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Troll's Golden Sword

155

76

-

46

-

46

-

46

-

46

100

51

29

D

10

D

-

-

-

-

-

-

19

22

Troll's Roar

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Troll Knight's Sword

124

70

80

55

-

43

-

43

-

43

100

50

20

D

14

D

18

-

-

-

-

18

22

Troll's Roar

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Royal Greatsword

112

71

134

63

-

44

-

44

-

44

100

52

26

D

18

E

22

D

-

-

-

-

20

20

Wolf's Assault

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Grafted Blade Greatsword

162

80

-

48

-

48

-

48

-

48

100

53

40

C

14

E

-

-

-

-

-

-

21

20

Oath of Vengeance

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Ruins Greatsword

 124

82

 37

56

-

50

-

50

-

50

100

56

50

B

-

-

16

E

-

-

-

-

23

25

Wave of Destruction

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Starscourge Greatsword

129

65

83

47

-

34

-

34

-

34

100

52

38

D

12

D

15

E

-

-

-

-

20

20 (- 20)

Starcaller Cry

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Godslayer's Greatsword

119

63

-

38

77

49

-

38

-

38

100

45

20

D

22

D

-

-

20

D

-

 17.5

15 (- 15)

The Queen's Black Flame

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Maliketh's Black Blade

127

68

-

36

-

36

-

36

82

49

100

55

34

D

12

E

-

-

20

D

-

-

22

40

Destined Death

Elden Ring Colossal Swords Max  Standard Values

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Name Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Cri Sta Str Dex Int Fai Arc Any Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Bst Rst Wgt
Godslayer's Greatsword 291 - 188 - - 100 120 D B - C - - 63 38 49 38 38 49.5 22 17.5
Grafted Blade Greatsword 396 - - - - 100 160 B D - - - - 80 48 48 48 48 58.3 26 21
Greatsword 401 - - - - 100 156 B D - - - - 84 50 50 50 50 67.2 28 23
Maliketh's Black Blade 311 - - - 200 100 156 B D - B - - 68 36 36 36 49 60.5 27 22
Royal Greatsword 274 328 - - - 100 150 C D C - - - 71 63 44 44 44 57.2 26 20
Ruins Greatsword 303 90 - - - 100 168 S - D - - - 82 56 50 50 50 61.6 28 23
Starscourge Greatsword 316 203 - - - 100 156 B D D - - - 65 47 34 34 34 57.2 26 20
Troll Knight's Sword 303 196 - - - 100 150 C C D - - - 70 55 43 43 43 55 25 18
Troll's Golden Sword 379 - - - - 100 152 C D - - - - 76 46 46 46 46 61.2 25 19
Watchdog's Greatsword 347 - - - - 100 164 B E - - - - 82 49 49 49 49 66 27 22
Zweihander 345 - - - - 100 126 D C - - - - 67 40 40 40 40 54 22 15.5

Elden Ring Colossal Swords Max Heavy Upgrades

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Name Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Cri Sta Str Dex Int Fai Arc Any Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Bst Rst Wgt
Greatsword 349 - - - - 100 171 A - - - - - 84 50 50 50 50 61.6 28 23
Troll's Golden Sword 352 - - - - 100 152 B - - - - - 76 46 46 46 46 56.1 25 19
Watchdog's Greatsword 301 - - - - 100 180 S - - - - - 82 49 49 49 49 60.5 27 22
Zweihander 319 - - - - 100 126 A - - - - - 67 40 40 40 40 49.5 22 15.5

 

Elden Ring Colossal Swords Max Keen Upgrades

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Name Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Cri Sta Str Dex Int Fai Arc Any Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Bst Rst Wgt
Greatsword 373 - - - - 100 156 D B - - - - 84 50 50 50 50 61.6 28 23
Troll's Golden Sword 352 - - - - 100 152 E B - - - - 76 46 46 46 46 56.1 25 19
Watchdog's Greatsword 321 - - - - 100 164 D A - - - - 82 49 49 49 49 60.5 27 22
Zweihander 319 - - - - 100 126 E A - - - - 67 40 40 40 40 49.5 22 15.5

 

Elden Ring Colossal Swords Max Quality Upgrades

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Name Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Cri Sta Str Dex Int Fai Arc Any Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Bst Rst Wgt
Greatsword 325 - - - - 100 156 B B - - - - 84 50 50 50 50 61.6 28 23
Troll's Golden Sword 307 - - - - 100 152 B B - - - - 76 46 46 46 46 56.1 25 19
Watchdog's Greatsword 280 - - - - 100 164 B B - - - - 82 49 49 49 49 60.5 27 22
Zweihander 278 - - - - 100 126 B B - - - - 67 40 40 40 40 49.5 22 15.5

 

Elden Ring Colossal Swords Max Fire Upgrades

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Name Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Cri Sta Str Dex Int Fai Arc Any Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Bst Rst Wgt
Greatsword 270 - 270 - - 100 156 C E - - - - 79.8 47.5 62.5 57.5 47.5 56 26.6 23
Troll's Golden Sword 255 - 255 - - 100 152 C E - - - - 72.2 43.7 57.5 52.9 43.7 51 23.75 19
Watchdog's Greatsword 232 - 232 - - 100 164 B E - - - - 77.9 46.55 61.25 56.35 46.55 55 25.65 22
Zweihander 231 - 231 - - 100 126 C E - - - - 63.65 38 50 46 38 45 20.9 15.5

 

Elden Ring Colossal Swords Max Flame Upgrades

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Name Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Cri Sta Str Dex Int Fai Arc Any Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Bst Rst Wgt
Greatsword 318 - 318 - - 100 156 D E - D - - 79.8 47.5 62.5 57.5 47.5 56 26.6 23
Troll's Golden Sword 300 - 300 - - 100 152 D E - C - - 72.2 43.7 57.5 52.9 43.7 51 23.75 19
Watchdog's Greatsword 274 - 274 - - 100 164 C E - B - - 77.9 46.55 61.25 56.35 46.55 55 25.65 22
Zweihander 272 - 272 - - 100 126 D D - C - - 63.65 38 50 46 38 45 20.9 15.5

 

Elden Ring Colossal Swords Max Lightning Upgrades

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Name Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Cri Sta Str Dex Int Fai Arc Any Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Bst Rst Wgt
Greatsword 276 - - 276 - 100 156 E C - - - - 79.8 47.5 57.5 62.5 47.5 56 26.6 23
Troll's Golden Sword 261 - - 261 - 100 152 E C - - - - 72.2 43.7 52.9 57.5 43.7 51 23.75 19
Watchdog's Greatsword 238 - - 238 - 100 164 E B - - - - 77.9 46.55 56.35 61.25 46.55 55 25.65 22
Zweihander 236 - - 236 - 100 126 E C - - - - 63.65 38 46 50 38 45 20.9 15.5

 

Elden Ring Colossal Swords Max Sacred Upgrades

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Name Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Cri Sta Str Dex Int Fai Arc Any Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Bst Rst Wgt
Greatsword 318 - - - 318 100 156 D E - C - - 79.8 57.5 47.5 47.5 62.5 56 26.6 23
Troll's Golden Sword 300 - - - 300 100 152 D E - C - - 72.2 52.9 43.7 43.7 57.5 51 23.75 19
Watchdog's Greatsword 274 - - - 274 100 164 C E - B - - 77.9 56.35 46.55 46.55 61.25 55 25.65 22
Zweihander 272 - - - 272 100 126 D D - C - - 63.65 46 38 38 50 45 20.9 15.5

 

Elden Ring Colossal Swords Max Magic Upgrades

Quick Search of All Weapons

Name Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Cri Sta Str Dex Int Fai Arc Any Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Bst Rst Wgt
Greatsword 318 318 - - - 100 156 E E C - - - 79.8 62.5 47.5 47.5 57.5 56 26.6 23
Troll's Golden Sword 300 300 - - - 100 152 E E C - - - 72.2 57.5 43.7 43.7 52.9 51 23.75 19
Watchdog's Greatsword 274 274 - - - 100 164 D E B - - - 77.9 61.25 46.55 46.55 56.35 55 25.65 22
Zweihander 272 272 - - - 100 126 E E B - - - 63.65 50 38 38 46 45 20.9 15.5

 

Elden Ring Colossal Swords Max Cold Upgrades

Quick Search of All Weapons

Name Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Cri Sta Str Dex Int Fai Arc Any Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Bst Rst Wgt
Greatsword 286 214 - - - 100 156 B D D - - frostbite status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(153) 79.8 57.5 47.5 47.5 47.5 56 26.6 23
Troll's Golden Sword 270 203 - - - 100 152 C D C - - frostbite status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(153) 72.2 52.9 43.7 43.7 43.7 51 23.75 19
Watchdog's Greatsword 246 185 - - - 100 164 A E C - - frostbite status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(153) 77.9 56.35 46.55 46.55 46.55 55 25.65 22
Zweihander 244 183 - - - 100 126 C C C - - frostbite status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(153) 63.65 46 38 38 38 45 20.9 15.5

 

Elden Ring Colossal Swords Max Poison Upgrades

Quick Search of All Weapons

Name Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Cri Sta Str Dex Int Fai Arc Any Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Bst Rst Wgt
Greatsword 341 - - - - 100 156 B D - - D poison status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(138) 79.8 47.5 47.5 47.5 47.5 56 28 23
Troll's Golden Sword 322 - - - - 100 152 B D - - D poison status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(138) 72.2 43.7 43.7 43.7 43.7 51 25 19
Watchdog's Greatsword 294 - - - - 100 164 A E - - D poison status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(138) 77.9 46.55 46.55 46.55 46.55 55 27 22
Zweihander 292 - - - - 100 126 C B - - D poison status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(138) 63.65 38 38 38 38 45 22 15.5

 

Elden Ring Colossal Swords Max Blood Upgrades

Quick Search of All Weapons

Name Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Cri Sta Str Dex Int Fai Arc Any Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Bst Rst Wgt
Greatsword 341 - - - - 100 156 B D - - D hemorrhage status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(120) 79.8 47.5 47.5 47.5 47.5 56 26.6 23
Troll's Golden Sword 322 - - - - 100 152 B D - - D hemorrhage status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(120) 72.2 43.7 43.7 43.7 43.7 51 23.75 19
Watchdog's Greatsword 294 - - - - 100 164 A E - - D hemorrhage status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(120) 77.9 46.55 46.55 46.55 46.55 55 25.65 22
Zweihander 292 - - - - 100 126 C B - - D hemorrhage status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(120) 63.65 38 38 38 38 45 20.9 15.5

 

Elden Ring Colossal Swords Max Occult Upgrades

Quick Search of All Weapons

Name Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Cri Sta Str Dex Int Fai Arc Any Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Bst Rst Wgt
Greatsword 357 - - - - 100 156 D E - - B - 84 50 50 50 50 61.6 28 23
Troll's Golden Sword 337 - - - - 100 152 D E - - B - 76 46 46 46 46 56.1 25 19
Watchdog's Greatsword 308 - - - - 100 164 D E - - B - 82 49 49 49 49 60.5 27 22
Zweihander 306 - - - - 100 126 E D - - B - 67 40 40 40 40 49.5 22 15.5

 

 




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    • Anonymous

      Having lots of fun dual welding colossal swords, even with suboptimal stats, just having the minimum requirements to use and not fat roll, I'm destroying everything in my path in high level areas like Dragonbarrow.

      That said, the power stance rolling attack kinda sucks. Not only does it has pretty bad range but also bad tracking too.

      • Anonymous

        The crouch attack looks so stupid.
        That is not what a proper attack looks like, you just flop the sword forward without any power behind it.
        It is also faster than the crouch attack of greatswords, which makes no sense considering these are the heavy slow versions.

        • Anonymous

          There always be type of people who use Zweihander or GUGS and repeatedly press guarding whenever they're going to attack or when they defeated the opponent like as if they're a pro player. Surely, it's not disrespectful, but it's kinda cringe, like why can't you just be normal? Why do you need to always act cool and edgy even though you're really not?

          • Anonymous

            Ytf do a third of these scale with intelligence? It’s like the most annoying nonsensical stat combination especially when most spells that synergize well with colossal swords use faith

            • Anonymous

              Playing a bit of DS3 makes me miss the vertical slams a lot for colossal swords in Elden Ring. I (hope) the DLC adds one with that moveset two handed.

              • Anonymous

                Good critical hit weapon on a blood build in pvp, since it hits twice it will usually trigger bleed in a single backstab or riposte

                • There's like only 2 non boss enemies that wield a colossal sword, odd since in ds3 there were like 4 or 5. I imagine we'll get a group of knights in the dlc that use only heavy stuff like Greataxe/sword black knights

                  • Anonymous

                    I believe crouching and jumping should both leave you open to instability dmg. Crouch/jump spam need risk/reward rebalancing and I don’t think crouching attacks should have hyper armor either… unless you think spears should do double damage and get the same speed/hyper armor as collosal pokes?

                    • Anonymous

                      They just keep buffing these, which don't need a buff at all, and then nerf weird stuff that 3 people use. I just don't get it.

                      • Anonymous

                        I miss the dark souls weapons in this game... where is the fume greatsword? or artorias greatsword? This game made greatswords be so usless and made dex so op...

                        • Anonymous

                          Not saying these weapons are bad, but in terms of PVE they're nowhere near as good as the Ultra Greatswords in the previous games, particularly back in Ds 1 and 2 where they were some of the strongest weapons in the game if you could get used to the timing, Their movesets and damage in this game is so nerfed compared to Ds1 and 2

                          • Anonymous

                            Nice, they fixed the naming on the range infographic. Glad people still understand what exactly a wiki is supposed to be.

                            • Anonymous

                              Fun fact: In 1.09, the Ruins Greatsword surpassed the Heavy GUGS for pure Physical damage at high strength values, and that's not even mentioning its additional bit of magic damage. The scaling on the Ruins Greatsword is just bananas. In exchange, of course, it has the second worst length while the GUGS has the best length, although the Ruins Greatsword has a powerful ranged unique weapon art. Both weapons can be acquired very early (although the GUGS is just a grab while the Ruins Greatsword requires beating the Misbegotten Warrior x Crucible Knight duo boss.)

                              • Anonymous

                                Holy ****, it's hard to understate how much Colossal Swords trivalize 99% of the open world.

                                Your most accurate swing on Torrent is also the one that knocks up light/medium sized enemies its comedic and sad at the same time.

                                It'd be more impressive if you could find a way to lose if actually trying.

                                • Anonymous

                                  Plenty of chads missing in this page. 80% of this comment section is full of whiny complaints about forgettable stuff.

                                  • Anonymous

                                    I have a sneaking suspicion that none of these have the vertical slam light attack from ds2/3 because they were unable to fix aimpunch properly, so they just had to scrap the moveset.

                                    • Anonymous

                                      is that le epicc wholesome heccin reference to the GODLY manga Berserk(TM) by the GOD Kendo Muira (pbuh)? EPIC!

                                      • Anonymous

                                        I do think they over-weight the weapons in these games. a real life historical zweihander (yes they actually exist) only weighed between 4.4 and 8.8 pounds. Any that weighed more than 8.8 were confined to ceremonial use. Yes I understand it is a game and realism isn't the point. I can be stun-locked by rats while using bull-goat armor and 2-handing a colossal weapon. realism doesn't exist in this game lol. Just something to think about for those that like to think about realism in games.

                                        • Anonymous

                                          why didnt you use the in game name its just confusing for people who dont get that its a reference, just call it “Greatsword,” this is a wiki page not fanfic

                                          • Anonymous

                                            cool, had to spend a few minutes narrowing down which one the admins had for zero reason renamed, that wasn’t at all annoying

                                            seriously, not all of us read Japanese comics from the 80s… just use the in-game name, please

                                            • Anonymous

                                              I'm disappointed that the Astora Greatsword from Dark Souls 3 didn't return in some way (obviously without any ties to Astora or Dark Souls), that thing was honestly the best Ultra Greatsword in that game for it's weight and how it still hit like a truck despite weighing LESS than the Claymore.

                                              I know that it wouldn't have the same absurdly low weight that it did given that the Zweihander went from 10.00 units to 15.5 (so probably 13.5 units, which ngl would still be great), could have probably given the Guardian's Swordspear or the Bloodhound's Fang some competition for best Dexterity weapon.

                                              Can always hope that it's successor comes in the DLC.

                                              • Anonymous

                                                For all people wondering: GUGS is referring to the regular "Greatsword"

                                                It totally looks like the sword straight out from the manga Berserk, which Miyazaki loves and refers to in many FromSoft Games, where it belongs to a charakter called Guts hence the name Guts Ultra Great Sword = GUGS

                                                • Anonymous

                                                  The overhead R1 light attack from DS3 is now an R2 heavy attack on all Colossal Swords, with exception of Zweihander (R2 is a stab), Troll Knight's Sword (R2 is a stab) and Greatsword (R2 is a sweep).

                                                  • Anonymous

                                                    Lets make a class thats 5x heavier. Slower then most. Uses enormous stamina. Do the same damage as a small weapon while having no hyper armour and being highly susceptible to a aim punch.

                                                    Fromsoft

                                                    • Anonymous

                                                      Someone must explain me why they removed the vertical R1 slam from DS2/3 and why the only UGSs with pokes are the Zwei (good) and the Troll Knight (bad).

                                                      Seriously From, don't always make step forwards in some areas of your game design while backpedalling in others.

                                                      • Anonymous

                                                        Why do we only get speed and poise buffs. WE NEED DAMAGE BUFF. WHY IS THE IDIOT WITH 2 SMALL SWORD AND 2 TINY SPEARS OUTDAMAGING ME??!??!?!?

                                                        Thank you for coming to my ted talk.

                                                        • Anonymous

                                                          GUGS = Ultra great sword.
                                                          Admins for this page are just shoving their shitty anime references down people's throats.

                                                          • Anonymous

                                                            These honestly are in such a weird place i think. Just referring to gugs and zwei and mostly using ds3 for comparison. Gugs needs too much str (i think 28 or at least 30 would make it easier for alot of ppl to incorporate it) also it weighs just a bit too much, 23 makes you gotta compromise alot of your other gear and/or stats. Zweis wielding stats are fine, but it weighs way 2 dang much considering its pretty much only as strong as great weapons (ghammers CGS gaxes) zwei should weigh about 12 at the most honestly, otherwise you may as well just use a dismounter or something. Gugs is strong, but still fairly close to zwei and Gweapons because for some reason they decided to just keep making them faster and faster instead of stronger and stronger. If they made em a bit slower, lighter, less str req for gugs, and increased their damage by a good amount, i think it would make them alot more interesting in pvp and alot funner for pve! Also add flame strike AoW!

                                                            • Anonymous

                                                              what the **** is GUGS? some people are saying is just the Ultra Great Sword so then why is it called GUGS? is this some shitty anime thing Im too normal to understand?

                                                              • Anonymous

                                                                It’s far from un-react-able in its current state. And what videos are you referencing, guy below me? Stop whining and git gud. It’s plenty balanced now compared to plenty of other things that could use your whining about.

                                                                • Anonymous

                                                                  WHY would they bring back crouch poke? It was still good even after the nerf but now it’s unreactable and too fast to punish with a prediction jump. And it still combos into offhand halberd. Oh and the rest of the move set is really good now so it’s just overkill and my collosal sword is already easy mode if my opponent doesn’t mirror. I can’t even have fun with my zwei now without someone assuming I’m a dirt bag and switching to their own zwei to only cr1 and can crouch running attack. I don’t even understand why they allow crouch attacking at all. Roll attack animations are all supposed to be balanced out by having the warning of a roll. And the Telegraph is what balances out cr1 being the fastest,highest poise damage attacks of a move set with the shortest recoveries that can’t be punished. Without the roll there is no Telegraph and spamming crouch is enough to make even G9 panic roll in his videos. G9, one of the best, panic rolls like a noob when twerking starts and can only counter it with his own cr1. Oh and why is crouch sprinting even a thing? You can’t even punish the twerking with distance since they can sprint right up while bobbing during crouch. Endure into erdtree heal with ritual shield+scale talisman/heavy armor is the cheese I use to make these people miserable. If I dragged it out for 3 minutes and forced them to switch to royal remains/quickstep, then I’ve given them what they deserve.

                                                                  • Anonymous

                                                                    If they don't add a colossal sword with a verticle r1 in the DLC imma cry. I just wanna be able to roll catch again mister miyazaki

                                                                    • Anonymous

                                                                      Really all they needed to do was lower the motion value on the poke and make it parriable like it was in 3, then it wouldn't be so oppressive on everything. Having a single fast attack among all the slow ones was what made them compete with other weapons, now they have nothing. The only ultra worth using for its r1s is godslayer, and that was true even before 1.07.

                                                                      • Anonymous

                                                                        wish the mods on this page would change the Greatsword from GUGS in the weapon range picture. Not all of us watch anime and we don't need you shoving this **** down our throats when we came here to get information on the game.

                                                                        • Anonymous

                                                                          Aaand I wasted stones on this for nothing. 2 moves now at half refresh rate slow-mo. Breaks the rythm. I can roll back on Axes and Maces, just would like mt mats back, that stuff doesn't grow on trees, From.

                                                                          Having PVE messed by whiny maiden less PVPers...never change From. It's lovely to commit 50 stat point for no reward.

                                                                          • Anonymous

                                                                            Crouch poke is nerfed but the colossal swords aren't fast enough to compensate. They are much much more usable and with the poise buff, they're exceedingly viable in PvE but against players who suck up to meta, these are too slow to roll catch and will quickly lose to 2h thrusting swords. Worst yet is that poise is now neuthered for PvP so good luck fighting against rolling stabs.

                                                                            • Anonymous

                                                                              Thank god they balanced this weapon class but the rolling/crouching attack is completely useless. I'd say switch the animation to something similar or just like the rolling attack of the Astora greatsword from ds3 but make it parryable just like ds3 so it cant be spammed.

                                                                              • Anonymous

                                                                                So regular greatswords got abysmal hammer-like ground slam on roll and croutch attacks, but colossal swords get a lightning fast poke? Just...why?

                                                                                • Anonymous

                                                                                  Just switch animation of rolling/crouching light attack between colossal swords and claymore to balance this out.

                                                                                  • Anonymous

                                                                                    Say what you will about the Colossal greatsword class, but I for one am glad it exists. I was born with a disability that means I only have 1 finger on each hand. Fromsoft was extremely considerate to provide a weapon class I can win with even with this disability, very inclusive. Oh also my disability left me blind and with only 3 brain cells but the colossal weapon class allows me to consistently be within the top 5 on the Elden ring pvp ladder. Thank you Fromsoft for caring for the disabled like me.

                                                                                    • Anonymous

                                                                                      Crouch poke is literally just a brain check. If you have one, you can play around someone using it. If not, oh well.

                                                                                      • Anonymous

                                                                                        The crouch poke reminds me of the unpatched version of ds3’s Astora greatsword rolling attack—which was an unparryable, extremely fast slamming move that somehow did counter thrusting damage.

                                                                                        • Anonymous

                                                                                          Remember when ultra greatswords used to be powerful without you having to basically just spam 2 moves over and over for them to be viable late game and in pvp? I miss those times.

                                                                                          • Anonymous

                                                                                            What kinda weapons do you guys want from up coming DLCs? I want ugs' that doesn't look like garbage, in DS3 they were so elegant. Even more viceral looking ones like FUME UGS was a thing of beauty. This game lacks anything similar to Cathedral UGS, Astora UGS or Lothric UGS. GUGS looks like garbage, its weirdly circlular shaped, it looked so much better in previous games. the only actually great looking UGS is Blaidds and thats a str/int weapon, not suitable for every build. Zweihander looks great as always but thats about it.

                                                                                            • Anonymous

                                                                                              To the 99% of this comment section, we get it. You're salty about the crouch pokes of these, can you please say something other than complaining? Not meaning to complain about complaining, but Jesus.

                                                                                              • Anonymous

                                                                                                It's worth noting that the horseback heavy attacks of these weapons are amazing, they do great damage, simply charging them does good damage, they flip most average sized enemies like pancakes in a frying pan and many that aren't flipped atleast get knocked back/heavily staggered, and they are great against Dragons if you hit their heads, the light attack on horse though is just straight worse tho, it's the same speed, it does not combo, it's awkward to hit enemies with, and does much less damage than a heavy attack.

                                                                                                • Anonymous

                                                                                                  why does the weapon range data picture say GUGS for the standard greatsword? needlessly complicates things.

                                                                                                  • I think this wiki got this wrong, this is actually the spear section, Fromsoft just decided to delete Colossal Swords from the game.

                                                                                                    But seriously though, there are some very good reasons why people love to abuse the crouch poke and how it's busted as hell lol:
                                                                                                    - Comes out extremely quickly
                                                                                                    - Has really good tracking while locked on
                                                                                                    - The poke does a lot of stun damage, meaning you can hit someone, crouch while they are stil in their stun animation, and then roll-catch them into oblivion
                                                                                                    - The hitbox is chunky as hell, and it's a lot wider than it looks
                                                                                                    - The hyper armor start up is exremely quick, meaning you can poise through enemy attacks with little risk of being poise broken

                                                                                                    Obviously, a nerf to the crouch pokes is pretty necessary for the sake of balance. But I would like to counter with some buffs I'd love to see:
                                                                                                    - Fix the Manual Attack Aiming option (which for some reason literally does nothing atm)
                                                                                                    - Increase the attack speed

                                                                                                    Something I would also love to see is the return of the vertical 2-handed R1s from DS2/DS3 on some weapons like the Greatsword and the Ruins Greatsword (and maybe others). Sure, you'd lose the broad sweeps, but it feels pretty neat imo and the 2nd R1 can hit people behind you. But at this point it's just wishful thinking if From ever goes that far (though modders have proven that they can alter movesets, so maybe they're just stubborn).

                                                                                                    • Someone add to all these pages the stagger dmg, or an unified page where all weapon classes are showing their stagger dmg potential, of course +25 can get much higher with heavy ash of war.

                                                                                                      • Anonymous

                                                                                                        It doesn't matter what weapon class a weapon is; if it has a fast poke attack, 90% of the playerbase will rely entirely of that single move. Colossal swords are no different.

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