Crucible Feather Talisman | Elden Ring Wiki

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Hello, mimic.

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so i'd just be better off using the situational-mostly-for-pve-anyway crystal tear over this, great design

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So...it improves your rolling by less than it harms your damage negation? Gee, I'd prefer if it somehow averaged out in my favor.

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Unlike most things, this actually gets better as you progress in the ng+ cycle. Fun on a light roll build with tons of stamina.

For max glass cannon nimbleness go with as much endurance as you can afford and at least 40 strength (ideally 60). Don’t level vigor at all, this build is made of toilet paper and anything spent will be a waste. Talismans should be radagon’s soreseal, green amber +2, turtle, and this. Two hand giant crusher with heavy infusion and cragblade, offhand/back as the turtle shell.

Have fun and godspeed o7

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So the I-frames from this and windy tear don't stack, but do the damage negation penalty stacks?Because I have an amazing idea, but to make it work as intended, I need the damage negation penalty from feather talisman and the tear to stack

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Makes you able to dodge Rykard's upheaval
Though the -30% makes it play like russian roulette

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This is literally prenerf Carthus Bloodring's benefit with postnerf Carthus Bloodring's penalty. If still has -30% negation, but now it's back to 32 frames instead of only 30 frames. The Windy Crystal Tear offers 31 frames for -15% negation which is almost on par with prenerf Carthus Bloodring, but it only lasts for 3 minutes and can be dispelled by Law of Regression, while also taking up a Crystal Tear slot. Unironically, I think the Windy Crystal Tear is kind of busted in PvP despite the drawbacks in the same way the prenerf Carthus Bloodring was busted in PvP, it opens up way too many opportunities to become invulnerable while also not having a severe enough penalty, only -15% negation does not offset the +19% boost in frames, the percentages are unbalanced. I think how they nerfed it in DS3 was complete overkill and done with a heavy hand, but it was kind of justified because of how strong it was if you knew what you were doing and how to maximize the advantage it offered.

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Don't use this in PvP unless you're really good, even if you're light rolling. That 30% damage increase is enough to make most ashes of war 1 or 2 shot you

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20% would make this more worth using. Not saying it’s bad, just a little too niche.

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I’d argue it’s not ****. Here’s why:
- Great for higher NG cycles since most bosses just 1-2 shot you
- Great stack potential with blue dancer charm
- Not getting hit is easier done than you think there are very few things that will hit you regardless of whether you have this on or not
- gives you a reason not to wear heavy armour

Just maybe don’t wear it near royal revenant or just don’t go near that thing at all

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Nobody can hit you as long as you spam roll in pvp lmao.

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This talisman sucks. Either increase the benefit or weaken the drawback. It's completely useless outside of extreme playthroughs or tryhard PvP. It's just like the scarab helmets. Too great of a drawback for too little of a benefit outside of extremely specific circumstances.

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Carthus Bloodring, my beloved

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Isn´t 30% more damage taken a bit excessive?

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PRO TIP: RAPTOR OF THE MIST = NO DAMAGE FROM CHARIOT

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Honestly a great choice if you have high negation armor and still have medium roll. The extra damage you occasionally take feels completely nullified by how easy it is to dodge. Managed to beat crucible knight duo while only needing to heal once because they couldn't touch me (took about 5+ minutes of kiting but with all that time spent dodging I could really feel the effect of this talisman)

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the crappy connection simulator talisman

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a bit malicious to have left out such a critical piece of info in the how to obtain section for so long.

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this thing carried my level 1 character vs Fire Giant. any attack of his would 1 shot me anyways so this talisman was an automatic equip

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Anyone know if the defense reduction is changed in PvP? Talismans that boost your defense are heavily nerfed in PvP, so I'd hope this follows the same logic.

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does this affect backstep at all?

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Incredible talisman for people like me who have a nagging voice in the back of their head saying "every point you put into vigor is a point you didn't put into strength". I do wish it worked with Quickstep, though.

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how do i get the kind of invulnerability the NPC enemies have? spam roll with no vulnerability at any point in the roll. i tested entry of roll, 25% into the roll, dead center of the roll, 75% through the roll, the moment when the roll ends, and the frame or two when they're standing before entering a follow up roll. full immunity throughout. is that what this does, or is it just more cheating on the game's part?

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This + Blue Dancer charm is the ultimate 'Just don't get hit' statement.

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No ninja cartwheel flip, day ruined.

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god i ****ing wish this made the fat roll medium

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Has this changed since the light roll change?

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Just don't get hit 4Head

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should be 15% instead of 30%

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AKA the crouch poke destroyer

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POV you level adp

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I just watched someone completely negate waterfowl dance with this and light rolls. No complicated positioning, no weird circling, just spamming dodges.

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Makes you bloodhound step for free.

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ADP TALISMAN
BOTTOM TEXT

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The negative aspects of all the talismans need to be removed, Increases damage taken is stupid. plus we need to be able to equip at least 10 talismans, hackers are already doing it, by increasing the number of talisman pouches.

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This talisman is pretty worthless outside RL1 runs.
Why use it when BHS provides way more iframes?

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So no Carthus Milkring / Simpleton's Ring that people loved, but Carthus Bloodring that everyone despised (and not nerfed), put in the most frustrating level of any From game. Classic Fromsoftware big brain moment.

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“So we created a talisman that will increase the I-frames of your dodges and make it easier for you to avoid damage. But to make sure that this doesn’t become a essential talisman for every broken build, we decided that we will also take away 30% of your defense as well. We hope this won’t be a problem for you right? After all, why would you worry about defense if you’re trying to avoid getting hit at all?”
-From, probably

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I think I understand why you take more damage. Wings are better for mobility but are easily broken because birds have hollow bones

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I think I understand why you take more damage. Wings are better for mobility but are easily broken because birds have hollow bones

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Do we know is this actually increases I-frames or does it just improve distance or recovery or something like that?

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Does this affect Quickstep and Bullsh*t Step?

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With this talisman and the right setup you can have~
-263 Physical/Strike/Slash/Pierce
-260 Magic/Fire/Holy
-387 Lightning

For anybody seeking Ultimate challenge

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If you struggle with chariots, just use Raptor of the mists. It works

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I wonder if this affects the AoW on the Bloody Helice? It already has 41 I-frames, but this could make it even more ridiculous.

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I think it would be a good note to say the body hanging off is where you need to jump. The chariot only gives you a few seconds to look and jump

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Be Not Afraid

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Found you at last, my favourite Carrthus blood ring from DS3 !

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All I can say is even with dragon crest +1, arsenal charm +1 and the best/heaviest armor i have on, which is ironically the tree sentinel set, this wrecks my defense completely. And I'm heavy rolling to boot. Personally this sounds like trash to me, but what do I know. I don't play this game competitively. Just for PVE. Been around since demon souls and this still sounds like trash to me.. Miss the good old wood grain rings. Sigh

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This adds input delay fyi for rolling, just be careful

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Just give me Ninja Flip while wearing this Talisman.

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this is a life saver in late game RL1 where almost every hit taken one shots you anyway, so the extra iframes always come in handy. run this with opaline bubbletear to be able to take a hit just in case and blue dancer charm for naked bonus damage.

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So difficult to find, description wrong there's to many trap chest

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+6 iframes to medium roll
+6 iframes to light roll
+5 iframes to fatroll

DOES NOT EFFECT QUICKSTEP, OR BLOODHOUND STEP

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So has anyone figured out what this actually -does- to improve dodge rolls?

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the talisman's descriptions has some of the craziest lore implications of any item in the entire game and y'all are in here whining "ugh, this talisman out of the dozens of talismans in the game doesn't do what I want it to." gamers, man. insufferable.

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sounds like it increases the damage you take by 30%, multiplicatively.

If you have 80 percent negation...then you are taking 20% damage normally. With this on, you'll take 20% * 1.3 == 26% damage taken. That'll show up at 74 damage negation on your stats

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sounds like it increases the damage you take by 30%, multiplicatively.

If you have 80 percent negation...then you are taking 20% damage normally. With this on, you'll take 20% * 1.3 == 26% damage taken. That'll show up at 74 damage negation on your stats

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Does this apply to the bloodhound step?

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useless, can't tell the difference in iframes

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It seems to decrease your damage negation relative to how much you already have - the lower you have, the more it decreases.
Numbers:
0% negation; with talisman -30%
25% negation; with talisman 2.5%
50% negation; with talisman 35%
75% negation; with talisman 67.5%
80% negation; with talisman 74%

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Use this together with Physqiue Flask dodge enhance (works for 3min) and you probably can yawn while dodging hits from Malenia herself.

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I have made some math, and in result, the higher your defenses are, the less you lose. For every 5 points on defense, you lose 1.5 less.

At 0 > -30 > -30
At 5 > -28.5 > -23.5
At 10 > -27 > -17
At 15 > -25.5 > -10.5
At 20 > -24 > -4
At 23 > -23 > 0
At 25 > -22.5 > 2.5
At 30 > -21 > 9
At 35 > -19.5 > 15.5
At 40 > -18 > 22

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Not sure if this is supposed to happen but the pair of chariots died and I got tree sentinel armor and an ash. Wild.

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So does anyone know what happens when ypu use this when your already light weight load?

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It appears that a lot of talismans in this game make absolutely no difference at all. I have a hunch that a lot of them are bugged and missing their effects or they are so minimal in percentage that there isn't any logical reason to use them whatsoever.

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defense reduction seems to be depending on build or something else. takes 22-28% off of me if I equip it (physical stats being less affected than elemental)

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Location is missing a key piece of information: after "Follow them to the ladder and continue on this path through the next chariot ramp room", you must turn around and enter the room on at the top of the chariot room on the right, the attack the fire pillar to move it upwards, then warp back tot the start of the dungeon (via item or death), then proceed back down the same path to the fire pillar, but this time go to the bottom of that chariot room to find the final passage that is already mentioned.

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Jesus christ I hate this dungeon

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If only it changed rolling to quicksteps instead

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Looking at the dark sous 3 wiki for carthus ring, that one increase i-frames by 30% while reducing damage reduction by 30% as well. For light rolls that is 13 to 17 frames.

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Curious I wonder is this affects the ashes of war quickstep and bloodhound step

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this is more like a 20% reduction in defense, that can take you negative.

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Improves rolling, because of all the dodges youre gonna focus on since it takes away all this defense. Seriously now, any data on this item? Seems to have no effect to me.

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how much frame increase for dodge roll ?

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