Discus of Light

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Spell Type Golden Order
FP Cost 3 Slots Used 1
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Fires ring of light before the caster

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Discus of Light is an Incantation in Elden Ring. Discus of Light spell deals holy damage in a AoE. Updated to Patch 1.07.

 

One of the incantations of the Golden Order fundamentalists.

Produces a ring of light and fires it forwards. The ring of light returns to a position close to the caster before disappearing. This incantation can be cast repeatedly.

A gift from the young Miquella to his father, Radagon.

 

Where to find Discus of Light

 

 

Elden Ring Discus of Light Guide

  • Golden Order Incantation
  • Also affected by Dryleaf Seal
  • Stamina Cost: 20 [outdated as of 1.07, needs updating]
  • Deals holy damage and 4 stance damage.
  • Note: Significantly buffed in Patch 1.07 - FP cost reduced from 9 to 3, cast speed has been increased and the halo is now faster, lasts longer and has more range. In addition, stamina cost has been reduced.
  • The caster can use a spell parry such as Carian Retaliation or Golden Retaliation to deflect a returning discus and proc the effect of the spell parry used.
  • The disc is thrown from the height of the character's face, but for some reason it returns to their thighs, so be wary of low objects and ledges if you're trying to parry it.
  • Casting it will make the player character take a step forward. Some ledges will prevent the caster from over-stepping and falling off. You can use this to guarantee the disc doesn't break on a ledge when you're trying to parry it.
  • On the sending and returning stroke, it passes through enemies and stops upon hitting any obstacle.
  • If it contacts an enemy with a shield, the shield will reduce the damage [Needs testing to determine if it reduces the damage of the disc or the damage taken by the specific enemy, and testing to determine if it's dependent on the shield facing the caster. The phrasing was unclear].
  • Casting it on horseback it lets Torrent trot, giving you more mobility.
  • While not locked on, it exhibits the obnoxious horizontal dead angle aim "assist" (sabotage) many other projectiles have. If the angle you're firing at is mostly horizontal, it'll turn completely horizontal, making it impossible to hit most things horizontally in front of you, rendering free aiming worthless most of the times.

 

 

 

 

Elden Ring Discus of Light Notes and Tips

Updated to patch 1.07. See Patch Notes for details.

  • Great for mounted boss-fights and farming due to its extremely low FP cost & ability pierce through all enemies.
  • Most effective when used on larger enemies and used while on horseback.
  • Other notes and player tips go here. 
 
Elden Ring Incantations
Agheel's Flame  ♦  Ancient Dragons' Lightning Spear  ♦  Ancient Dragons' Lightning Strike  ♦  Aspect of the Crucible: Bloom  ♦  Aspects of the Crucible: Bloom  ♦  Aspects of the Crucible: Breath  ♦  Aspects of the Crucible: Horns  ♦  Aspects of the Crucible: Tail  ♦  Aspects of the Crucible: Thorns  ♦  Barrier of Gold  ♦  Bayle's Flame Lightning  ♦  Bayle's Tyranny  ♦  Beast Claw  ♦  Bestial Constitution  ♦  Bestial Sling  ♦  Bestial Vitality  ♦  Black Blade  ♦  Black Flame  ♦  Black Flame's Protection  ♦  Black Flame Blade  ♦  Black Flame Ritual  ♦  Blessing's Boon  ♦  Blessing of the Erdtree  ♦  Bloodboon  ♦  Bloodflame Blade  ♦  Bloodflame Talons  ♦  Borealis's Mist  ♦  Burn O Flame!  ♦  Catch Flame  ♦  Cure Poison  ♦  Darkness  ♦  Death Lightning  ♦  Divine Beast Tornado  ♦  Divine Bird Feathers  ♦  Divine Fortification  ♦  Dragonbolt Blessing  ♦  Dragonbolt of Florissax  ♦  Dragonclaw  ♦  Dragonfire  ♦  Dragonice  ♦  Dragonmaw  ♦  Ekzykes's Decay  ♦  Elden Stars  ♦  Electrify Armament  ♦  Electrocharge  ♦  Erdtree Heal  ♦  Fire's Deadly Sin  ♦  Fire Serpent  ♦  Flame Fall Upon Them  ♦  Flame Fortification  ♦  Flame of the Fell God  ♦  Flame Protect Me  ♦  Fortissax's Lightning Spear  ♦  Frenzied Burst  ♦  Frozen Lightning Spear  ♦  Furious Blade of Ansbach  ♦  Ghostflame Breath  ♦  Giant Golden Arc  ♦  Giantsflame Take Thee  ♦  Glintstone Breath  ♦  Golden Arcs  ♦  Golden Lightning Fortification  ♦  Golden Vow (Spell)  ♦  Great Heal  ♦  Greyoll's Roar  ♦  Heal  ♦  Heal from Afar  ♦  Honed Bolt  ♦  Howl of Shabriri  ♦  Immutable Shield  ♦  Inescapable Frenzy  ♦  Knight's Lightning Spear  ♦  Land of Shadow (Incantation)  ♦  Lansseax's Glaive  ♦  Law of Causality  ♦  Law of Regression  ♦  Light of Miquella  ♦  Lightning Fortification  ♦  Lightning Spear  ♦  Lightning Strike  ♦  Litany of Proper Death  ♦  Lord's Aid  ♦  Lord's Divine Fortification  ♦  Lord's Heal  ♦  Magic Fortification  ♦  Magma Breath  ♦  Messmer's Orb  ♦  Midra's Flame of Frenzy  ♦  Minor Erdtree  ♦  Multilayered Ring of Light  ♦  Noble Presence  ♦  O Flame!  ♦  Order's Blade  ♦  Order Healing  ♦  Pest Threads  ♦  Pest-Thread Spears  ♦  Placidusax's Ruin  ♦  Poison Armament  ♦  Poison Mist  ♦  Protection of the Erdtree  ♦  Radagon's Rings of Light  ♦  Rain of Fire  ♦  Rejection  ♦  Roar of Rugalea  ♦  Rotten Breath  ♦  Rotten Butterflies  ♦  Scarlet Aeonia  ♦  Scouring Black Flame  ♦  Shadow Bait  ♦  Smarag's Glintstone Breath  ♦  Spira  ♦  Stone of Gurranq  ♦  Surge O Flame!  ♦  Swarm of Flies  ♦  The Flame of Frenzy  ♦  Theodorix's Magma  ♦  Triple Rings of Light  ♦  Unendurable Frenzy  ♦  Urgent Heal  ♦  Vyke's Dragonbolt  ♦  Watchful Spirit  ♦  Whirl O Flame!  ♦  Wrath from Afar  ♦  Wrath of Gold

 

 



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    • Anonymous

      I didn't expect this thing to be so good and fun at the same time. Going on an NG+ adventure as a Fundamentalist Paladin and this thing is safely in my #1 Spell slot.
      First thing upon metting the enemy? Throw this thing at them, as much as possible.
      Probably will become useless towards end-game: the casting time is a bit on the slower side and many enemies have no trouble punishing me for casting it.
      Also combos nicely into the triple-disc as they use the same casting animation. Now if only the triple one was as good...

      • Anonymous

        This is surprisingly overpowered. For just 3 FP, you get long range, two hits on most enemies (one from each side, so at least one avoiding the shield), decent damage (1.5k across the two hits at 80 Faith and with a +10 Erdtree seal), reasonably fast casting time and best of all, the first hit doesn't even aggro the enemies. Honestly, at 20 FP this would almost be worth it, at 3 FP it feels like cheating.

        • Anonymous

          I love how one of the most hilariously bad spells from ds3 turned into this legitimate monster. 3 fp?? This thing can play the game on its own.

          • Anonymous

            this incant is borderline broken, does more damage than other offensive incants that require ten times the FP cost

            • Anonymous

              this is still objectively better than multilayered rings since a) it actually chains with triple rings and b) it comes back to you :)

              • Anonymous

                I played the game for about 200 hours before I tested this thing , I regret not giving a shot sooner , it is my fav. incant now.

                • Anonymous

                  If you are dedicated to having high levels of intelligence and faith, then this thing easily becomes S tier. It will probably require a NG+ run to be at its most effective, but give yourself the time to level up faith and int, and this incant will HIGHLY reward you. :)

                  • Anonymous

                    weird thing. does holy damage, but doesn't stop undead enemies from reviving like holy damage usually does.

                    • Anonymous

                      Is it true? Did way of white Corona grow up into a good spell? I always knew the little one had it in him.

                      • Anonymous

                        this little disc of light is freakin goated man. i heard it was good so i picked it up since i only have faith and 13 int for it...and it has a ton of range, it's fast, very cheap (can spam it for days) and hits twice! but most of all, it's a freakin destructo disc!!! this little spell is where it's at for holy mains

                        • Anonymous

                          while I still absolutely love the discus group of spells I cannot figure out why 1.13 removed circlet of light adding damage to these spells... rather than fixing the issues with holy damage not being buffed in PvP. I really hope that was a mistake because my holy frisbees were gonna be great once that got fixed. (they're still good, but FS did not need to do us like that)

                          • Anonymous

                            One of the strongest spells in the game. Tremendous range; amazing value for cost. You could win the game just by using this.

                            • Anonymous

                              Honestly? One of the best incantations in the game. FP cost is nothing. Hits twice like a boomerang; once forward and once on the way back. Casts fast as hell with some of the most insane range and tracking. It gets boosted by both Golden Order Seal and Dryleaf Seal, Radiant Gold Mask, Sacred Scorpion Charm, Flock's Canvas Talisman, Holy-Shrouding Cracked Tear, Sword of Light, and obviously the more generic damage boosts like Golden Vow, Bloodsucking Cracked Tear, Rakshasa set, Ritual Sword Talisman, etc. You can get it to absurd damage levels really easy without needing to go to NG+ to get a double seals like some other sorceries/incans. It's just all around a fantastic safe primary spam skill for all content.

                              • Anonymous

                                If you build faith you have to get this spell a try. Don't tell me 13 faith is too much. You only need 3 point in it. Renala hat and you are done. Or Godrick Rune. Or using Miquella hat and you only need 2 point of Int to use this spell. Best holy spell and the most cost effective spell and also one of the best range.

                                • Anonymous

                                  just did a bit of field testing and even with a shotgun buff setup, this thing rocks. Takes a bit of skill with aiming is all but the potential for trickshots is high.

                                  Has range, low cost, spammability, reasonably low requirements. All-in-all a must have.

                                  • Anonymous

                                    People talk about the damage and cost but the truly underrated part is this move's range. The enemy could be living in the next county and you still have a reasonably good chance of hitting them. The fact that it outanges basically anything but a Furnace Golem's aggro field or a dragon's breath should not be underestimated.

                                    • Anonymous

                                      It can completely trivialize the non-boss PvE part of the game; just run Discus with Ancestral Spirit's Horn and Sacrifcial Axe/Sword of Milos and you will never run out of FP.

                                      • Anonymous

                                        Probably the best damaging incantation. Not only is it super efficient, but you can also do some pretty insane buff stacking:

                                        unique:
                                        +20% Sword of Light AoW
                                        +20% Sacred Scorpion Charm
                                        +20% Holy-Shrouding Cracked Tear
                                        +15% Golden Vow
                                        +15% Dryleaf Seal
                                        +10% Radiant Gold Mask
                                        +8% Flock's Canvas Talisman
                                        +4 Faithful's Canvas Talisman (you can have both * Canvas Talismans equipped simultaneously)

                                        generic:
                                        +20% proc'ed Dried Bouqet Talisman
                                        +15% Golden Vow
                                        +10% Ritual Sword Talisman
                                        +9.1% Bloodsucking Cracked Tear

                                        I was able to buff it by 316%. All the buffs apply to the rebound projectile as well. Damage in the thousands for 3 FP

                                        • Anonymous

                                          One of the best spells in the game. One thing I haven't seen mentioned is that the side you fire from depends on which hand you are using to cast it; this is great when you have 2 sources of spell casting and can hit around corners using free aim. Also, this spell is pretty versatile in PVP when you get good at free-aiming and throwing it on the ground near you makes it linger there (causing damage to anyone that touches it) and it comes back to you faster!

                                          • this thing is actually insane for its fp cost, there's a boss in the dlc thats weak to holy and this utterly melts it. I was dealing 2k per hit for only 3fp, 4k if the return hits too. Staple of any good faith build, to be honest. Shame that the base game has so many holy resistant bosses...

                                            • Anonymous

                                              This is carrying me through the dlc on nearly all non-boss enemies. The boomerang effect becomes a little minigame in and of itself. It’s also come in clutch as a boss-finisher multiple times. Pair this with the new FP regen talisman and you can spam to your heart’s content.

                                              • Anonymous

                                                Elden lord armor , aristocrat headband , whip weapon of choice , erdtree seal and this inantation to cosplay as bootleg Simon.
                                                No haircuts fit accurately though...

                                                • Anonymous

                                                  @ANON May19. Golden Order Seal + Erdtree Seal + Radiant Gold Mask + Azur’s Staff + Radagon’s Icon + Golden Order Incantations + Beastial Incantations + Servants of Rot Incantations + Blue Dancer Charm + Ritual Sword Talisman = Pure Faith Caster

                                                  • Anonymous

                                                    If I'm playing a high faith caster build, I'd honestly rather use glintstone pebble with the staff of the guilty than use this. It fires off to the side making aiming difficult, it's slow, and you can't move while casting so it's completely unusable if dudes get in your face.

                                                    • Anonymous

                                                      As soon as you meet Goldmask go back to brother Corhyn and tell him. Go back to Goldmask and brother Corhyn will be there to sell the incantation. Make sure to buy it straight away from him there otherwise they will both move to the royal capital near the arena.

                                                      • Anonymous

                                                        using this boomerang of death with the sword of milos in my offhand. f.p. cost = nothing.
                                                        intelligence and faith are in the mid to high fourties.
                                                        three quick shots take out a giant prawn.
                                                        quick to cast with possibly the best range of any spell/incantation in the game.

                                                        • Anonymous

                                                          This spell apparently deals 2 poise damage in pve, making it the most cost efficient way to stop enemy poise from regenerating using fp, since you just throw one out for 3 fp, and the enemies poise hp stops regenerating, no need for throwing daggers or arrows (or bestial sling, since its twice as expensive, even though it deals 4 poise damage, it is useless when just trying to stop poise regen)

                                                          • Anonymous

                                                            This thing absolutely slaps in NG+ with 2 order seals, the sun hat, 80/80 INT/FTH and holy/incant damage increasing talismans. The range is better than most sorceries, the damage is great, and the incredibly low FP cost lets you spend your FP on expensive buffs/heals instead.


                                                            What really makes this great though is the low stamina cost on top of everything else. You can spam it mindlessly while the damage stacks up.

                                                            • Anonymous

                                                              3FP, holy moly. With a Pool of 230+ you can Spam the pain Frisbee all day every day. What other spell gives you 1k++ dmg with some Support Talisman for 3FP?

                                                              • Anonymous

                                                                Turned Fortissax into a joke, I don't think I was ever in range of any of his attacks. I didn't even realize he has 80 holy resist. 40 int/faith with Gold Mask, Order Seal, Sacred Scorpion, Ritual Sword, Holy Cracked Tear and Golden Vow for buff. Sacred Order would have stacked too but I don't have it.

                                                                Easily my favorite spell in the game, it made me regret ever playing a sorcery build.

                                                                • Anonymous

                                                                  If you need to farm the inverted hawk greatshield in Nokron use this and sacred relic sword. You’ll do fast work

                                                                  • Anonymous

                                                                    This spell isn’t better than glintsones, it’s just different and comes with its own flaws. It flies perfectly straight, no tracking, so anything that isn’t running right at you will be missed (whereas a glintstone, or even a lightning spear, will hit most things that aren’t specifically dodging). Even that slow strafe to the side mobs do will cause a miss, as well as their normal out of combat walking. You throw it from your left and right sides, so the environment can mess it up. You’re locked into the animation 100% (whereas glinstones still let you slowly move). It’s much longer to cast than any of the basic glinstones, so you will get hit if you try to cast in medium to short range. The damage is technically split into two parts, the cast and return, further discouraging medium to short range use. It definitely has its uses, but a pure caster is likely to be better served by other spells that are more consistent or damaging.

                                                                    • Anonymous

                                                                      can be pushed down to 2 fp cost with incantation scarab and primal glintblade, not like you'd ever need that

                                                                      • Anonymous

                                                                        Never thought about it but this is actually the best thing you can have in ordina town so that you can snipe albinaurics

                                                                        • Anonymous

                                                                          why does this require int I'm a dum prophet :c

                                                                          Actually I noticed there's barely any pure faith holy damage

                                                                          • Anonymous

                                                                            Insane spell. Insane damage for 3 fp. Insane range (more than comet). Insane speed. And epic pose. My build - knight of all elements with 80 int + 40 faith + 32 str.

                                                                            • Anonymous

                                                                              Insane spell. Insane damage for 3 fp. Insane range (more than comet). Insane speed. And epic pose. My build - knight of all elements with 80 int + 40 faith + 32 str.

                                                                              • Anonymous

                                                                                Ok. So everyone's saying that this spell is really good and I want to like it. I did a setup where I bum rushed Altus, grabbed the spell, Goldmask's mask, sacred order and shared order. I've got sacred order on both my weapons, shared order activated, and the mask, and it's still struggling to take out the basic soldiers wandering around Altus. They just poise through it or go around it, come up and hit me, and then the spell takes too long to cast to get it out again and I just have to switch to my melee weapons. I've got a +9 finger seal and minimum stats. Is it because I'm too low level? What am I missing here? This seems like it takes too long to cast to be useful. If it was as fast as glinstone pebble, then it would be good.

                                                                                • Anonymous

                                                                                  "Some testing is required to determine if there is a principle//rule governing this observed ledge behavior."

                                                                                  Spoken like a true Golden Order Fundamentalist.

                                                                                  • Anonymous

                                                                                    This spell needs a nerf. 500 damage per hit in pvp? That way too much. And it returns, adding another 500 for 1000 damage every discus. 1000 damage for 3 go is absolutely ridiculous. This is another example of fromsofts horrible balancing, and this needs a nerf right away.

                                                                                    • Anonymous

                                                                                      Amusingly, if you one shot something with the Ancestral Spirit Horn equipped you’ll never be drained of FP. Discus costs 3, the horn regains 3 on kill.

                                                                                      • Anonymous

                                                                                        Don’t sleep on this spell, it’s an absolute demon for ***h damage and utility.

                                                                                        If you optimize for damage on a pure caster, you can make it deal absurd amounts for how little it costs using Golden Order Seal, and can even reduce it’s total cast cost to 1 FP per cast. This spell will literally carry you through the whole game if you build around it, and it’s damage can even reasonably stand up against the endgame “Vatican rush” of bosses despite being pure holy. Plus, if you have enough stats to make this guy viable, you can cast Triple Rings and Radagon’s Ring, which are ***h super strong spell options as well.

                                                                                        If int-faith isn’t your cup of tea, get the bare minimum stats to cast it with a crappy seal, then use it in conjunction with Erdtree Greatshield or any medium shield with Carian Retaliation. You can interact with the projectile when it returns to you, so you can either use Carian Retaliation to parry it and get a free phalanx or use Golden Retaliation to launch the holy damage equivalent of a glintstone comet at your foes whenever your heart desires.

                                                                                        This is my favorite incantation by far, and it should be yours. Unbelievably good spell for how unassuming it is.

                                                                                        • Anonymous

                                                                                          ppl only say this is bad because they played a faith build in ds3, its pretty good, just wish holy damage wasnt smashed into paste in the endgame

                                                                                          • Anonymous

                                                                                            The Single most Efficient spell in the whole game , incantation scarab gives this a whopping 1 FP per cast.

                                                                                            And on a fundamentalist build with golden order , goldmask and 40 FTH /INT this bad boy does 1500 Per cast .

                                                                                            We all bullied Way of white Corona , well be careful who you call ugly in highschool because god damn this got quite the glowup

                                                                                            • Anonymous

                                                                                              Currently running a Fundamentalist build (planning on respeccing to a Destined Death build for NG+ since I thought that might be fun) and this is by far the best one on the kit. Ridiculously low FP cost, great damage for being Holy and said FP cost, and comes out pretty fast. Literally the only usable Holy tool against Maliketh/Radabeast

                                                                                              • Anonymous

                                                                                                If you kill the Goldmask before speaking to brother Corhyn, can you still get the Discus of light and if not, is there another way to get it ?

                                                                                                • Anonymous

                                                                                                  If you play a Faith build in PvE you simply *have* to have this move on your belt, gets so much better too as your stats increase

                                                                                                  • Anonymous

                                                                                                    This lets me fulfill my Xena, Warrior Princess fantasy. As Brother Corhyn taught me this incantation, I heard Dean Pelton's voice in my head saying: "This better not awaken anything in me..."

                                                                                                    • Anonymous

                                                                                                      I think this is meant to be faith alternative to Carian Slicer, except better in pve against stupid mobs. But after Slicer nerf, this thing is better in pve and even pvp. I would know since i respecced from sorceries to incantations.

                                                                                                      • Anonymous

                                                                                                        This thing must’ve had a training montage between dark souls and elden ring because it is THROBBING with power now

                                                                                                        • Anonymous

                                                                                                          You are locked out of getting this spell if you don't progress Cohryns questline in Altus, I got his bell bearing but this spell is not available

                                                                                                          • Anonymous

                                                                                                            As mentioned below, it’s Godly with max cast speed. At 125+ 30 dex for tree spear and you got a weapon with really good damage that can be buffed by orders blade and synergizes well with discus and Tripple rings and you got max cast speed with radagon icon. And tree spear L2 gives 10% spell dmg buff in pve. Identical to having a GO order seal in terms of spell boost.

                                                                                                            • Anonymous

                                                                                                              It’s AOE. It’s long ranged. It’s cheap. It’s high damage that hits twice. It’s fast. What more could you possibly want? This is such a great, efficient incantation.

                                                                                                              • Anonymous

                                                                                                                going from 12 dex to 42 dex (by equipping Radagon’s Icon which is 30 “virtual dex” for casting speed purposes) makes a decently noticeable difference for (at least the first cast of) this incant, and going up another 30-ish dex (by respec-ing so you can do 40 dex plus Radagon for 70 effective dex, which is the cap for casting speed improvement) makes another noticeable difference. It feeeeels like starter Discus is a little too much on the slow side to be able to get away with using it as your primary attack all the time, while 70 Dex Discus crosses over into being fast enough to use as a primary attack. So my currently level 59 discus spam character (named Cheese Pizza cuz i feel like i’m slinging spinning pizza doughs at people) has 40 Dex in exchange for extremely low vigor and endurance and mind, leaving some budget for Faith (and for getting Int to 13 ofc). Faith is a lot more important than Mind if you’re focusing on this spell, the FP cost is cheap but you need the damage to be reliable. If you want to full meme it I recommend goldmask’s mask (more damage), Godslayer Seal (good seal for a long time after 27 Faith), offhand Golden Order seal (more damage), sacred scorpion charm (more damage), ritual sword talisman (more damage), and holy shrouding cracked tear plus faith+10 tear (more damage). This can all be grabbed before Leyndell. Radagon Icon requires killing the dog and Godslayer Seal requires killing Margit. Some other items in there that take killing minibosses.

                                                                                                                • The people who edit this wiki never cease to amaze me. "Stamina cost: 20 [outdated as of 1.07 - needs updating]"

                                                                                                                  If you're gonna edit the page to say it's wrong, then why not fix it while you're there?

                                                                                                                  • Anonymous

                                                                                                                    This incantation allows you to throw a little frisbee of light that penetrates through everything until it hits an object like a wall or a breakable box, and after a second of waiting there being stuck, it starts its journey back towards you for a second hit. The second hit will be catching people from behind their camera if you can line it so it makes it very handy, but the spell itself is incredibly cheap and efficient, hits for a good deal especially if you consider penetration of multiple targets and the second hit, can be chain casted to create a dangerous place for your enemies to be in and furthermore it has absolute bonkers of a range, riddiculusly long distance. Shame I've been sleeping on it, seems bread & butter from now on.

                                                                                                                    • Anonymous

                                                                                                                      This spell is so amazing and yet I have locked myself out of it because I was doing a strength intelligence build rather than a strength faith build but changed my mind a did a respec. Now I have to wait til nee game + to get it and that's lame.

                                                                                                                      • Anonymous

                                                                                                                        This has a good deal more range than Lightning Spear. Kinda sucks and it's my biggest gripe with that spell. I don't really want to have to use this or Frenzy Barret .50 cal to reach an enemy with a ranged spell on my faith build

                                                                                                                        • Anonymous

                                                                                                                          I've been waltzing around with the Ancestral Spirit's Horn, and Cold Sacrificial Axe with Bloodhound's Step, and the Carian Filigreed Crest. Since like this, Discus of Light costs 3 FP and Bloodhound's Step costs 4 FP, you can evade easily and the Discus will still return to you at a new position to hit the enemy again. On top of that, the Axe also regenerates FP on kill so in tandem with the Talisman, you're basically an endless fountain of FP that never runs out.

                                                                                                                          The fact that Ambush Shard (23 INT) costs 13 FP, but Discus of Light deals 50% more damage on hit, hits twice, penetrates enemies like a comet spell across it's entire range, and is viable in direct combat is nuts.

                                                                                                                          The fact that Starlight, a spell that's just a glorified torch, costs 9 FP and this costs 3 FP is UTTERLY INSANE.

                                                                                                                          • Anonymous

                                                                                                                            I just made an int/faith build; currently lvl 20 i rushed down this spell, the golden order seal, and goldmask's mask. You can make an entire build around these golden order spells and this one has been annihilating limgrave ever since i returned to it.

                                                                                                                            • Anonymous

                                                                                                                              Cast this, then deflect it again to send it back out for more damage using the Erd Tree Shield special ability.

                                                                                                                              So much fun.

                                                                                                                              • Anonymous

                                                                                                                                This incantation now has a wonderful damage-FP ratio; even at only 10 Focus it can be used so many times that it is now a highly effective long-range addition for melee characters.

                                                                                                                                • Anonymous

                                                                                                                                  Insanely cheap, fast, good range, only lacks a little bit of tracking and the ability to be charged like lightning spear

                                                                                                                                  • Anonymous

                                                                                                                                    This spell is so ****ing good, costs like 0 fp, hits hard, very spammable, looks stylish af, the only bad thing about it is very low poise damage

                                                                                                                                    • Anonymous

                                                                                                                                      Thanks to the recent buffs, this spell is amazing, so good they'll probably nerf it. It's like the faith version of comet in terms of damage, range, and piercing for minimal FP. Well worth dipping into 13 int for a faith build.

                                                                                                                                      • Anonymous

                                                                                                                                        Most FP efficient incantation in the game now. There is literally no reason not to use this on every enemy in the game.

                                                                                                                                        • Anonymous

                                                                                                                                          I started a Golden Order character recently, having tried this incantation a while ago on my first play through.

                                                                                                                                          This incantation is now very good! With 15 mind, you can effectively replace your melee attack with this, and 2 discs will kill most enemies. Very FP efficient, and the range is very far. This might be so useful that faith characters should find a way to run it, although I have only tried it with the Golden Order Seal and 50/50 int/fai.

                                                                                                                                          • Anonymous

                                                                                                                                            I really wish there was a 'fundamentalist' starting class that started with this spell, 13int/13faith and low everything else with 7 arcane like the vagabond. Insane the most efficient golden order build is vagabond because it has the lowest arcane.

                                                                                                                                            • Anonymous

                                                                                                                                              Extremely good for a holy-focused faith build with the downside of having to waste points in INT but it's well worth it. The disc is small but flies EXTREMELY far and fast (like maximum lock-on range far), a stark contrast to the slow and short ranged incantations faith usually has. Hits twice, costs practically nothing, and can be chain cast to the point where you'll be poise-breaking large foes through sheer volume of shots.

                                                                                                                                              • Anonymous

                                                                                                                                                I consider this the best pvp incantation that’s “honest.” I’ve killed three people at once with this in a tight corridor. An invader used endure, double straight swords to run me down a buttress but the stacked rings melted him even with endure. I don’t even use gold mask, just 50 fth, 37 int, golden order seal and ritual sword talisman. Triple rings are useful for mixups and area denial but discus is the real killer.

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