Dragon Communion Seal

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attack power elden ring wiki guide 18Attack
Phy 25
Mag 0
Fire 0
Ligt 0
Holy 0
Crit 100
Inc 60
guarded damage negation elden ring wiki guide 18Guard
Phy 25
Mag 15
Fire 15
Ligt 15
Holy 15
Boost 15

attribute scaling elden ring wiki guide 18Scaling
Fai D
Arc C
attributes required elden ring wiki guide 18Requires
Fai 10
Arc 10
Sacred Seal Strike
No Skill FP -
Wgt. 0 passive effects elden ring wiki guide 18Passive 
Boosts Dragon
Communion Incantations

Dragon Communion Seal is a Sacred Seal in Elden Ring. The Dragon Communion Seal scales primarily with Faith and Arcane, and is a good Weapon for casters that focus on Dragon Communion Incantations

 

Formless drakeblood seal with a dragon communion crest.
Enhances Dragon Communion incantations.

The sacrificial devouring of the heart gives power.
Indeed, Dragon Communion is too primal in nature for the term
"incantation" to be appropriate.
This seal scales incantations with one's arcane attribute.

 

Where to Find Dragon Communion Seal in Elden Ring

The Dragon Communion Seal weapon can be found at the following location:

 

Elden Ring Dragon Communion Seal Notes & Tips

  • Weapon Skill: This armament has no skill. If the armament in the other hand has a skill, that skill will be used instead.
  • This weapon cannot be infused with Ashes of War.
  • Dragon Communion Seal can be upgraded by using Somber Smithing Stones.
  • Buffs Dragon Communion Incantations by 15%.
  • Will increase the buildup of Status Effects that spells cause, like madness for Frenzied Burst.
  • With healing and weapon buff spells, only the faith scaling applies.
  • This seal has a unique scaling curve. It scales much better with Arcane than Faith and at lower levels of investment, outshines the faith focused seals in terms of scaling.  At 74 faith and above primarily faith scaling seals (Erdtree Seal and Godslayer's Seal) outperform this seal at the same level of stat investment (39/45 Fai/Arc for the Dragon Communion Seal)
  • This seal's scaling with Arcane also means it increases the Blood Loss, Poison and Madness build up of incantations cast (Frostbite and Scarlet Rot buildup are NOT increased). This makes it a better seal for Frenzied Flame Incantations against targets where Madness is applicable, as the Frenzied Flame Seal has comically bad overall scaling.
  • The unique scaling curve of this seal also gives it unique softcaps compared to other seals; it soft caps at 45 Arcane and 30 Faith and doesn't have another cap again at 80 like other seals. Since it scales better to Arcane than Faith, one should bring Arcane to 45, then Faith to 30 and then maximize stat investment to first 99 Arcane, then Faith to get the over all best damage out of it. Note however, this will bring the character way above PvP meta levels, so 45 Arcane/30 Faith is the most reasonable investment for level 120-150 builds, not considering any other Arcane scaling weapons the player might use alongside this seal, which might have soft caps at different levels of investment.
  • Dragon Communion Incantations include Dragonclaw, Dragonfire, Dragonice, Dragonmaw, Borealis's Mist, Agheel's Flame, Ekzykes's Decay, Glintstone Breath, Greyoll's Roar, Smarag's Glintstone Breath, Rotten Breath, Magma Breath, and Theodorix's Magma.
  • Wielded by Eleonora, Violet Bloody Finger. This seal's crest also flashes when red-scarfed Banished Knights cast their flame breath attack.
  • Sell Value:  er runes 13 200
  • NOTE: As of Patch 1.08 a bug that prevented the follow-up attack from occurring when the Black Sword Incantation was activated with a Sacred Seal in the left hand has been fixed.

 

Moveset & Videos in Elden Ring for Dragon Communion Seal

  • Videos for the Dragon Communion Seal Coming Soon

 

Builds with Dragon Communion Seal

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dragon Communion Seal Upgrades in Elden Ring

Please see the Upgrades page to understand the weapon bolstering process.

Requires regular reinforcement with Somber Smithing Stones

This upgrade can't be enchanted with Magic or boosted with Consumables. The Incantation Scaling displayed on this table shows Minimum Requirement and Faith / Arcane 80 as xx-yy.

  Attack Power Stat Scaling Passive Effects Damage Reduction (%)
Dragon Communion Seal Phy Inc Scaling* Mag Fir Lit Hol Sta Str Dex Int Fai Arc Any Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Bst Rst
Standard 25 106 - 191 - - - - 20 - - - D C Boosts Dragon Communion Inc. 25 15 15 15 15 15 10
Standard +1 28 108 - 209 - - - - 22 - - - D B Boosts Dragon Communion Inc. 25 15 15 15 15 15 10
Standard +2 32 109 - 228 - - - - 24 - - - D B Boosts Dragon Communion Inc. 25 15 15 15 15 15 10
Standard +3 35 110 - 246 - - - - 26 - - - D B Boosts Dragon Communion Inc. 25 15 15 15 15 15 10
Standard +4 39 112 - 264 - - - - 28 - - - D B Boosts Dragon Communion Inc. 25 15 15 15 15 15 10
Standard +5 43 113 - 283 - - - - 30 - - - C A Boosts Dragon Communion Inc. 25 15 15 15 15 15 10
Standard +6 46 114 - 301 - - - - 32 - - - C A Boosts Dragon Communion Inc. 25 15 15 15 15 15 10
Standard +7 50 116 - 319 - - - - 34 - - - C S Boosts Dragon Communion Inc. 25 15 15 15 15 15 10
Standard +8 54 117 - 338 - - - - 36 - - - C S Boosts Dragon Communion Inc. 25 15 15 15 15 15 10
Standard +9 57 118 - 356 - - - - 38 - - - C S Boosts Dragon Communion Inc. 25 15 15 15 15 15 10
Standard +10 61 120 - 374 - - - - 40 - - - B S Boosts Dragon Communion Inc. 25 15 15 15 15 15 10

 

 




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    • Anonymous

      Some people say this seal makes frostbite(from Frozen Lightning Spear) scale with arcane, some say it does not bc frostbite never scales with arcane. Which one is true??

      • Anonymous

        Reading this page has made me even more confused on whether or not this seal increases status buildup of spells. When the game came out it did and it was a very noticeable amount. Did the status buildup increase from arcane only get reduced or removed completely?

        • The actual soft cap for this seal is 30 Faith and 45 Arcane.

          For Arcane scaling you will get 3 Incant Scaling points until 45 Arcane. Then only 1 point each level.

          For faith scaling you will get 2.50 Incant Scaling points until 30. Then 1.2 point until 45 Faith. And after that 1 point every 2 or 3 levels.

          So from 30 Faith to 45 Faith (15 Levels) you will get only 18 Incant Scaling points which it's wasteful, better to invest them into mind or vigor or anything else.

          • Anonymous

            "other Arcane scaling weapons the player migth use" noticed a spelling error, its in the 'notes & tips' section if anyone plans to fix it^^

            • Anonymous

              Article claims:
              "This seal's scaling with Arcane also means it increases the Bloodloss, Scarlret Rot, Poison and Madness build up of incantations cast."

              Ignoring the spelling error on Scarlet Rot are we certain Scarlet Rot build up is enhanced by Arcane? Because it contradicts the Info on the Arcane page, which only mentions blood, poison, madness and sleep for Arcane. Also all the Scarlet Rot incantations like the dragon ones and Scarlet Aeonia have fixed build up values on their respective wiki sites, which is unusual if the build up is supposed to be dependent on your Arcane level and not fixed at all.

              I believe the error is on this page. Arcane doesnt influence Scarlet Rot build up on weapons like the Antspur Rapier (when given Arcane Scaling) or Arcane scaling Weapons buffed with Rot Grease. So why would it influence incantations only?

              • Anonymous

                I've defeated that banished knight 3 times now and not once has it dropped the dragon communion seal. Is my game bugged?

                • Anonymous

                  I was struggling against the Valiant Gargiyles... Then I went to get this seal. And Smarags Glintstone breath. Suddenly incants felt powerful. That said, if I don't go arc/fth, and go fth or fth/dex when is it time to change seals, and what seal?

                  • Anonymous

                    Although it procs madness faster, that 40% damage buff that two Frenzy Flame seals give is actually way more valuable to pure madness casters. I’m talking like 1200 vs 800 damage.

                    • Anonymous

                      for anyone confused o n the math...

                      Faith Arcane
                      16 10
                      +58 = +58
                      74 10

                      Faith Arcane
                      16 10
                      +23 +35 = +58
                      39 45

                      • Anonymous

                        If you want to cast rotten breath as a lvl 1 wretch this is a good choice due to the zero carry weight as it will save precious pounds to allow you to still wear the silver tear helm with it

                        • Anonymous

                          Dragon Communion Incantations are influenced by casting speed, article is wrong. Noticeably so, even. The only exception is the jumping dragon casts.

                          • Anonymous

                            At lvl 115, 43 vig, 17 mind, 25 fth, 31 arc - dragon communion seal +6, Marika's scarseal. Plant latenna on the tree where a branch is coming out. My latenna is only +4. Now approach from the sanctum, use dragonmaw. When he aggros, pull off and latenna will aggro him, he'll keep trying to reach latenna and fail in most of his combos, take your time munching on him with dragonmaw. Even if he poise breaks just spam the maw on him. Took me like 5-7ish minutes.

                            • Anonymous

                              When I hold one of these in each hand, is the incantation additive or multiplicative? Meaning is it 15% + 15% = 30%, or 1.15*1.15 = 32.25%, bonus to the Dragon incants?

                              • Anonymous

                                It wrote: " At 74 faith and above primarily faith scaling seals (Erdtree Seal and Godslayer's Seal) outperform this seal at the same level of stat investment (39/45 Fai/Arc for the Dragon Communion Seal) "

                                But 39+45=84, not 74

                                • Anonymous

                                  I don't know why this Wiki says Radagon's Icon doesn't effect Dragon Communion spells but it absolutely does. It just doesn't effect the initial start up of the spell. It effects the second casting of it. While i wouldn't say it nearly as effective as id like the statement it doesn't work is still false.

                                  • i've found it's useful just because of the fact that it weighs 0. i used it to apply bloodflame to a GUGS and, when combined with armor, i didn't have enough weight for a seal without fat rolling. went through, got this and giant hunt, now i'm easily one-shotting everything.

                                    • Anonymous

                                      "Will increase the buildup of Status Effects that spells cause, like madness for Frenzied Burst."

                                      This is incorrect! I tested Bloodflame Talons, Swarm of Flies, Bloodflame Boon, and Rotten Breath today using my own PS5 and my roommates PS5. There is NO INCREASE for status buildup on these spells when you increase arcane, so just meeting the arcane requirement, investing in faith, and using a faith only scaling seal is most efficient.

                                      • Anonymous

                                        Is this worth using with only getting to 17 arcane for the dragon abilities? Or should I just use the regular one until I get to the capitol?

                                        • Anonymous

                                          Best early game caster tool, even better than Meteorite Staff. Catch Flame does stupid damage with this thing

                                          • Anonymous

                                            I briefly tested dual wielding these (NG+) against the Godrick Soldier patrolling the road behind the Church of Elleh, and it seems that the 15% damage boost to Dragon Communion Incantations DOES stack.
                                            I'd urge others to test this to confirm it. If true, the same should apply to other seals/staves that boost a particular school of spells.

                                            • Anonymous

                                              The dragon communion seal does have a softcap of sort at 30 faith, investment above that level will yield only a little more than 1 incant scaling per level, it's not worth it. If you go 45 fth 45 arc you might as well use the erdtree seal with 80 fth (same investment), it will be more powerful (unless you already have investments in arcane for the spell requirments, I guess). For the dragon communion seal you should stop at 30 fth 45 arc and invest your remaining points in vigor endurance mind. You can always use the faith talisman and the faith-boosting tear to get your faith to 45 temporarily for when you want just a little bit more damage.

                                              • Anonymous

                                                Has 0 weight and can be obtained without killing any enemy yourself (you can lure the knight holding it into the chariot). So you can, technically, finish the game at 0 weight and only ever using dragon incantations.

                                                • Anonymous

                                                  "Brings character way above PvP meta levels" Who tf cares? This is a long ass, giant, open world game. This community is still acting like it's Dark Souls. People should be free to level up however much they want instead of feeling constrained to a made up meta. Especially when the PvP in this game sucks ass anyways.

                                                  • Anonymous

                                                    Does anyone else think that this seal looks an awful lot like a cursemark?

                                                    Similarly, the description references “formless drakeblood.” Was the Formless Mother a dragon?

                                                    • Anonymous

                                                      It kinda makes sense that this seal doesnt count Placidusax Ruin as a Dragon Communion incant, from a lore point perspective Dragonlord Placidusax never went out from the Heart of the Storm when the war broke out in Leyndell and judging from the way how Dragon Communion works, they seem to copy and imitate how lesser dragons, and even well known dragons attack so it is likely they no one ever saw him besides you and maybe a select few powerful beings.

                                                      • Anonymous

                                                        damn ppl really complaining about nerfs bc they can't crutch broken gear anymore. guess y'all gotta actually play the game dang so sad.

                                                        • Anonymous

                                                          Buffs Dragon Communion Incantations by 15%.
                                                          Thing I noticed with this is that you don't even have to be using this to get the benefit, just holding it. You can use a different catalyst for scaling reasons and still get the bonus. Makes me wonder if this applies to other catalysts and such

                                                          • Anonymous

                                                            This seal softcaps at 45/45, not 30/45. From 30 to 45 Fth the seal gains one spell buff each point, after that the spell buff drops significantly to less than 1 per point, just like Arcane.

                                                            • Anonymous

                                                              For a STR build with minimal FAI and ARC, using dragon incants.

                                                              Would it be better to use this seal, or the clawmark seal for the STR scaling?

                                                              I’ll test to find the answer.

                                                              • Anonymous

                                                                At 45 arcane and 30 faith, urgent heal restores 171 hp. At the listed hp per incant scale of 1.15 on urgent heal's page, this means the incant scaling this seal grants from 30 faith is 171/1.15 = about 149.

                                                                • Anonymous

                                                                  Can confirm status buildup for frenzied burst. Golden order seal requires 2 frenzied burst hit to trigger madness. Dragon seal only one. Tested on okina tarnished summon by spirit calling snail in spiritcallers cave. U guys can test other tarnished only status buildup weapons/spells/incant/ashofwar there

                                                                  • Anonymous

                                                                    For anyone wondering about this on a pure arcane build: at +10, with 80 arcane and 15 faith (15 being the minimum for basic dragon breath attacks) you get an incant of 314, and 319 if you go for 17 faith to use Dragonclaw as well.

                                                                    I'm currently running 80 arcane and 31 faith, which gives me an incant scaling of 355.

                                                                    • Anonymous

                                                                      Nerf to status buildup has actually made the blood incantations worthless. Oh Fromsoft and your scorched earth nerf policies, will you ever learn?

                                                                      • Anonymous

                                                                        What does the arcane scale affect? I’m sure it affects status effects. But does it also affect the damage of incantations?

                                                                        • Anonymous

                                                                          At 60/50 Arc/Fth, I have 353 scaling. I also have 60 int, and Golden Order gets the same. Can't tell which is overall better yet, lol.

                                                                          • Anonymous

                                                                            At 60/50 Arc/Fth, I have 353 scaling. I also have 60 int, and Golden Order gets the same. Can't tell which is overall better yet, lol.

                                                                            • Anonymous

                                                                              With its insane spell buff of 384, it beats any seal and they don't even come close. It's so high in fact that you're better off using this if you want the most damage out of ANY type of incantation, even beastial or fundamentalist, the seals of which scale with 2 stats. Stone of Gurranq with this does REALLY good damage.

                                                                              • Anonymous

                                                                                Still strong damage wise but i can no longer find a difference between the status build up on this seal compared with any other. Shame.

                                                                                • Anonymous

                                                                                  anyone got experience with the status effect buildup nerf from patch 1.04 on this guy? I love my seal and im sad cuz it sounds like rotten breath wont proc so easily now

                                                                                  • Anonymous

                                                                                    It honestly feels like madness increasing was an entirely unintended result given the fact that the madness seal scales with everything EXCEPT arcane. Either that or the balancing is seriously even worse than I thought

                                                                                    • Anonymous

                                                                                      I'm offended that you have to associate yourself with stupid-ass dragons if you want your incantations to scale with arc. I'm here for the Tres, Duo, Unus, not for flying away and spewing magma like a little coward.

                                                                                      • Anonymous

                                                                                        30FTH/45ARC is definitely the sweet spot for this seal.

                                                                                        - 15FTH/45ARC = 278 scaling
                                                                                        - 20FTH/45ARC = 291 scaling (+13 scaling)
                                                                                        - 25FTH/45ARC = 305 scaling (+14 scaling)
                                                                                        - 30FTH/45ARC = 318 scaling (+13 scaling)
                                                                                        - 35FTH/45ARC = 324 scaling (only +6 scaling per 5 points of faith)

                                                                                        On the other side of the spectrum, adding 5 ARC (for a total of 50) only receives 323.5 (rounded up to 324) scaling in a 30FTH/50ARC setup, which shows the same diminishing returns as faith in the 35FTH/45ARC example. TLDR: 30FTH/45ARC and go clap some cheeks.

                                                                                        • Anonymous

                                                                                          IDK how accurately spell buff determines damage, but this is the way to go for the highest spell buff: 384 at 80 ARC. Godslayer seal reaches 304 at 70 FTH so i assume it won't even get close.

                                                                                          • Anonymous

                                                                                            So I’ve seen that this increases the build up of madness, but does it also increases the build up of blood loss and poison with spells like swarm of flies and poison mist? I did a little testing on different enemies but I couldn’t really see a difference.

                                                                                            • Anonymous

                                                                                              I think I have a bug regarding skill use?
                                                                                              So I have an ash of war on a dagger (bloodhound's step) on left hand and on right hand I have dragon communion's seal and I get the "No skill" for my trigger. Swapping to other weapons displays the correct skill. If I swap right/left around, the step skill shows up just fine. Or am I doing something very wrong here? lol

                                                                                              • Anonymous

                                                                                                Keep in mind because of the dual scaling the soft cap for arcane is 60 so going past that isn’t worth it. After 60 arcane leveling faith will increase your damage more despite having only B scaling.

                                                                                                • Anonymous

                                                                                                  Does this seal buff the dragon cult incantations, or just the ones gained through spending dragon hearts at the churches?

                                                                                                  • Anonymous

                                                                                                    If I’m mostly using dragon incantations but I’m Str/Faith instead of Faith/Arcane, is it better to use this or the Clawmark Seal?

                                                                                                    • Anonymous

                                                                                                      I'm genuinely confused at some of these comments. If you are going for Arcane/Faith builds then going down the route of bleeding is basically a must, so why are people wasting precious FP on terrible and pointless weapon buffs like Bloodflame blade when they could just level arcane up to 60 and Faith at 25 to cover the bases of the better Faith buffs and have a good stepping stone for applying bleed to weapons via black whetstone while also having the Arcane increase bleed on weapons like Rivers of blood and Elenora's Poleblade? Like....thats the main point of Arcane and the Faith damage equivalents are just absolutely pitiful and useless compared to the Arcane/Faith hybrid blood spells so I'm just genuinely confused why someone would level Faith so much when it provides so little past 25.....yall in these comments are just really bad at building builds lol. The spells are basically just a bonus to your melee build and some of you seem to think the Faith part of the Arcane/Faith builds is for some reason doing more damage and its just genuinely confusing as hell when that's not the main point of Faith spells just by looking at the fact a majority of Faith spells are buffs and removal of debuffs. Some of these comments really just go to show some of the people who comment have a blatant misunderstanding of the game at a fundamental level and it's just sad.

                                                                                                      • Anonymous

                                                                                                        Not bugged. If weapon buffs and heals scaled with the arcane what would be the point in making a faith build over arcane?

                                                                                                        • Anonymous

                                                                                                          i dont know why they didnt make faith and arcane separate things. it's almost impossible to build a viable arcane/faith build without overleveling like mf...

                                                                                                          • Anonymous

                                                                                                            30 faith 45 arcane gives a fully upgraded seal 318 scaling, and going to 45 faith gives only 18 scaling. For a purely dragon communion build, I would stop there and invest into 60 vigor and mind before going back to faith.

                                                                                                            • Anonymous

                                                                                                              3 videos covering builds utilizing this seal.
                                                                                                              Zero videos covering how to obtain said seal without tearing your hair out >_>

                                                                                                              • Anonymous

                                                                                                                332 incant scaling + 10 with 32 FTH (enough for wog) and 56 arcane (occult infusion softcap). Top tier for offensive incants, whilst only faith is considered for healing and weapon buffs.

                                                                                                                • Anonymous

                                                                                                                  Is it not just 1 stonesword key needed to get access into the area? I just went here again a few days ago on second playthrough and pretty sure it was only one needed. The imp statue is to the left of the fog. I don't remember using two on my first playthrough either- or any fog doors needed two.

                                                                                                                  • Anonymous

                                                                                                                    Its weight of 0 makes this seal great for non-casters with baseline faith/arcane, since with the stat boost from Godrick's Great Rune you have access to Heal, Bestial Vitality and Flame Cleanse Me without spending a single level.

                                                                                                                    • at +10, 99 arcane and 99 faith, the incant scaling is 415. This does not increase with Faithful Canvas Talisman.
                                                                                                                      at +10, 50 arcane and 50 faith, the incant scaling is about 340.

                                                                                                                      • Anonymous

                                                                                                                        Here are my tests, using BLACK FLAME on the giant.
                                                                                                                        Dragon Communion Seal+5 about 650 damage
                                                                                                                        Godslayer's Seal+12 approx. 550 damage
                                                                                                                        Fai 28
                                                                                                                        Arc 50
                                                                                                                        It seems that the gain of this seal is better for blood samurai.
                                                                                                                        Even though different seals and glinstone staves have buffs for Incantations and Sorceries, I think it's best to match your own numerical curve gain to the seals and glinstone staves, right?

                                                                                                                        • Anonymous

                                                                                                                          Can confirm that as of 1.03.2 Arcane scaling still does not work for Weapon buffs (e.g. Bloodflame Blade, Electrify Armament). Arcane scaling DOES however work for direct damage spells (e.g. Fireball, Lightning Bolt).

                                                                                                                          • Anonymous

                                                                                                                            Did a bit of testing on my own because I wanted to figure out how to do as much damage with frenzy spells as possible (for those wondering, this seal won by a mile v.s. the frenzied flame seal). Seems like the soft caps for stats on this (and possibly all hybrid catalysts, I didn't test that far) are 30 and 45. Even after 45 though, putting points into Arcane gave back about a 1 to 1 increase in Incant scaling, roughly equivalent to how much Incant scaling Faith gives between 30 and 45. Absurdly good if you intend to do a lot of damage via incantations, obviously not important if you are just looking for a seal to cast buffs.

                                                                                                                            • Anonymous

                                                                                                                              I've seen a few comments throwing around slightly incorrect stuff. Dragon Communion Seal's weapon buffs scales from your + AR from it.

                                                                                                                              At 61 + 123, my Ripple Blade received 57 fire damage from Bloodflame Blade, despite my Incantation Scaling of 318. 57/123 = roughly 0.45, which is the multiplier for Bloodflame Blade's modifier.

                                                                                                                              I'm uncertain to whether this is purely for Bloodflame Blade, but I've been getting other confusing results. For instance, when my Arcane decreases by 8, my Incantation Scaling goes up but the Seal's scaling goes down. I think this is just horribly bugged.

                                                                                                                              • Anonymous

                                                                                                                                You can stop at 45 arcane. Like split casting tools in the past, it's best to split the stats between fth and arc. As higher faith will let you hit the spell casting requirements. 47/45 you can stop and it wont feel like your wasting stats.

                                                                                                                                • Anonymous

                                                                                                                                  Man now It makes sense that I found myself not having a way to do good melee damage with my dragon knight (full faith/arc). I was wondering why weapon buffs were so bad at 50fth/50arc. Hope this will be patched soon.

                                                                                                                                  • Anonymous

                                                                                                                                    As of 1.03.1 the Weapon Buff Incants cast with this Seal are still bugged, and only scale off of the Faith scaling, not the Arcane. Hopefully this is fixed soon, would like to see how well Bloodflame Blade scales with this on an Arcane build.

                                                                                                                                    • Anonymous

                                                                                                                                      I have 80 Arcane, 45 Faith, after testing my incantation enchants like electrify, volk's dragonbolt, bloodflame, it seems that no matter how much you incantation scaling on your dragon communion seal is, the spells scale off only faith, not arcane.

                                                                                                                                      At 46 faith, I have 237 scaling on my gravel stone, 230 on Erdtree, and 373 on my dragon communion. Both Erdtree and Gravel stone give me a bigger buff then dragon communion because they have S faith scaling.

                                                                                                                                      TLDR - Incantations scale off faith, not seals

                                                                                                                                      • Anonymous

                                                                                                                                        "Will increase the build up of status effect that spells cause, like madness for Frenzied Burst"

                                                                                                                                        Does anyone have evidence of this or know why this would be the case? Seems kind of random for this seal specifically.

                                                                                                                                        • 29 FAI, 55 ARC, +10 (Somber) Dragon Seal, 325 Incant Power: Bloodflame Blade Buff = +58 damage. Lightning Armament Buff = 110 damage.
                                                                                                                                          Now, same stats but +12 (Regular) Finger Seal, 155 Incant Power: Bloodflame Blade Buff = +62 damage. Lightning Armament Buff = 116 damage.

                                                                                                                                          I cannot see how this can be intended. Buffs should scale from raw incantation power given by a chosen seal, not just one stat. As it stands right now I literally have to carry a 2nd seal around just for buffing, which isn't a super big deal but it doesn't feel good. If this is intended, at least Bloodflame Blade buff should scale with Arcane.

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