Eclipse Shotel | Elden Ring Wiki

this weapon is cool, i just wish it wasn't so friggin short

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"Legendary"

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Use against players that hide behind the fingerprint stone shield

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Use against players that hide behind fingerprint stone shield

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does the followup explosion inflict curse too? if so how much?

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The people complaining about deathblight....its used for mental warfare like frenzy and the flame of deadly sin with blood blade. Panic and fear play an important role in pvp, and those that win against such tactics point down only because they hate their heart rate being so high lol

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To be honest i think this weapon was made for the chance you where unfortunate enough to encounter a infinite health hacker.

I was a victim of fighting sutch a hacker yesterday in elden ring. He was a blue summon, in a world of an afk farmer.

I attacked that basterd, he got staggered, but he couldn't be damaged.

So after eventually knowing i could inflict any damage i remembered this weapon was in the game that could 1 shot people with it's status effect.

Used it against the pathetic hacker, and he died by the status effect the poor fool.

He even rage mailed me and calling me a cheater LMAO.

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Has excellent base damage. So I tried a 99 vigor raw build stacking all life boost on mausoleum armor and using fias mist when I need to rebuff. The damage was good but I only procced death twice while dueling. I bet if I had two shotels I could’ve gotten tons of death blight. I got close on a ton of people and could tell by how passive/cowardly they became. Anyways the weapon is very good and the ash does good dmg if used properly. I can’t say that the death blight build up needs a buff... it’s instant death lol and I bet two would be disgusting... but I think hitting someone with the L2 should do way more death blight.

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deathblight needs a buff, i have never been deathblighted by a player and its effects can be negated with a bolus that takes a second to use, you might get hit while using it but the alternative is death. the duration on this is way too short and im able to kill people with it normally before the deathblight procs. meanwhile players with 60 arcane and double sepuku can instantly bleed me for 90% of my health, might as well be deathblight at that point.

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Seems kinda doodoo for pve considering that everything other than other tarnished and npc invaders can't be death blighted.

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i wish this wasnt a shotel i like curved swords and i like the concept of this but shotels just look so lame

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Does it inflict curse with the weapon art only, or with the regular hits too?

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for those of you complaining that this thing kill before it inflicts death blight

its a shotel thats supposed to chip through shields. this thing is meant to kill passive shield players

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Weapon skill is strong but has no hyper armor. Death blight is a pipe dream in PvP and literally useless offline. At least it's always stronger than a Sacred Shotel, but really I can't think of why you would use one besides chipping a Fingerprint Stone, and there are better tools for that job.

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The fact this is the only death blight weapon in the game sucks.

It's a good weapon to kill people with, but to try and fill up the meter you need to do 2 times the explosion weapon art in someones face. and that animation is slow as hell and doesn't give you hyper armor! And after that you might be able to death blight a person after 2-3 hits with it. So in pvp It's not worth it in trying to use it against someone for the status effect.

Hope the dlc makes us able to use a better weapon for the status effect.

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It looks like the cheat engine logo, and once, it really was like cheat engine, in a way.

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They finally patched out the combo with the Pulley Crossbow.

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You know what Iwish? I wish this weapon in PvE would do some sort of animation of leave some deathroot effects on enemies so that it FEELS like I'm Wielding a weapon that really inflicts deathblight. It would just look pleasing to the eye that deathblight has a real effect on enemies.

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Guys just to add my two cents, don't try to min/max everything. If a weapon looks interesting, use it, have fun with the game. No weapon is bad enough to make the game unplayable, as long as you know what you're doing.

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I hope they add a death blight scythe in a dlc at some point. I want to be the Grim Reaper!

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Does the death blight buildup scale with anything? Weapon level, faith, str/dex?

Because, if not, this is a twink weapon to harass early game players.

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This + pulley sleep bolts = fun times ahead

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Faith scaling but Fia's mist is Int concentrated and a sorcery.

O.k.

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This weapon is... strange. It uses a slightly altered curved sword moveset -- no two-hits on single or 2h strong attack like Beastman's, but still does the quad-strike when dual-wielded using L1.


Also, I have no frickin' idea how its damage is calculated. I was fighting Hoarax Loux with two of these, both with their Death Flare skill, and jump attacks were cracking 1.5k with claw talisman and raptor body, which is numbers I usually see from greatswords/hammers when a boss doesn't resist an element. Hoarax Loux resists holy, which this shotel deals, but somehow they didn't care about..? At this point, don't expect to actually get Deathblight off on anything, but on a 50/50 dex/faith build, these things hit pretty respectfully.


Don't expect to Deathblight anything without some bug helping you, even with two shotels, my buddy dies with 50% blight buildup, but something's up with this thing's damage.

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Interesting but also cool detail: Death blight from this can't proc on non-tarnished NPCs like Anastacia, it plays a particle effect that would be a proc but it doesn't actually do anything. I tested it on NG+ with an unupgraded Eclipse Shotel on the smoldering church invasion, I got the death blight particle effect to play twice, but even after hitting her a few dozen times it never actually killed her.

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Does the death blight scale with weapon level?

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Laggardly sort ahead therefore try death *bows*

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Looking forward to trying out duel-wield these for overleveled phantoms when doing Limgrave invasions. It's not useless for phantoms that are otherwise practically immortal at low levels, and people don't really carry the boluses to heal this status effect =)

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Really feel like they missed an opportunity with not making this into a paired weapon set. Just seems like having two Shotel making a full loop would fit, and being legendary, it'd help it stand out. I understand the balancing issue with it building up death blight, but honestly, I doubt it would be any worse than the Madness spells, Moonveil/RoB Spammers, or Great shield users. And just like with Madness, I don't see why this couldn't be a useful status effect against certain enemies. It isn't like Bleed and Rot aren't over there wrecking shop.

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I was using this yesterday and felt like all the WA did was additional damage. Tested on albunarics in gate town ng+

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As far as curved swords go, I don't think it's that bad. It's damage and scaling are average at higher levels in late game, it's fast, and the weapon art adds damage and a second tap can do an explosion that does pretty good damage if timed well. I don't think its bad for exploring or for bosses weak to holy. Definitely not the one weapon to carry you through the game but ok for the curved sword category. A lot of the comments focus on death blight, and agree that this isn't worth anything in PVE and probably not practically useful in PVP. But compared to the smaller weapons, it looks great and performs all right. I still enjoy carrying this around with my dex/faith build - even if I switch to Godslayer Greatsword for bosses.

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Man, wish this weapon could perform as well as it looks. Hopefully receives some sort of change soon. I really want to like this weapon.

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Man, wish this weapon could perform as well as it looks. Hopefully receives some sort of change soon. I really want to like this weapon.

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Can't this be combined with Fia's Mist to make it viable?

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Unblockable death blight. You are missing the importance of this weapon. This would be great against turtlers.

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I believe the main issue is death blight is useless in pve, and nearly unusable in pvp, since the buildup is so slow. Madness, frost, sleep, and the omnipresent bleed are much more reliable.

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Really lacklustre compared to all the other great legendary weapons, it needs a buff in some way, I mostly just wish it had more damage, or possibly make the WA worth using, cool idea but it doesn’t work that well and other than that it’s kind of just a normal curved with a bit lower damage, but worse since you can’t buff it, or give it a different weapon art and damage type

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i tested it out on the omens in the basement. the "death effect" doesn't do squat in pve. worthless trash.

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This weapon appears to do high poise damage.

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In case you're curious: No, you are not going to suddenly delete bosses using this. In fact I believe every single one is immune which means that the only relevant thing the effect will proc on are players, and if that's your goal Bleed does almost the same thing in two hits.

Really cool looking weapon, but very mediocre in actual use.

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I wish the buff on the weapon was more useful. I know that you are almost never supposed to proc the status effect, as that would be absurd if you could consistently, but the only way to sometimes proc it is when you are powerstancing it with another. The big issue is that the buff only lasts 30 seconds, and the animation itself takes a decent bit of time, quickly ticking away at your time before you need to buff both of them again. I think the best way to buff this would be to nerf the deathblight build up by about 25% so it still does almost as much as it does now, but increase the duration to around one minute.

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Useless weapon. Deathblight from WA absolutely will not proc, you will always kill through regular damage first.

Useless. Useless useless useless! Come on FROSO, use your fking head for once, give us something that sounds cool that isn't a total let-down

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at least it helps against people who use the helmet swap exploit...

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when it comes to pve, this is just "the other shotel to powerstance with" if you're running a faith build.
the ptsd buildup shines in pvp tho.

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for pve the weapon sucks, especially compared to the other curved swords. what about pvp? generally the same thing, low base damage and the status effect takes too long to proc for you to kill people with it. HOWEVER, this thing is a godsend for dealing with constant heal hackers and - more importantly - TANK BUILDS. see someone with that pesky fingerprint shield, walking at you all smug and confident? pull this thing out and insta kill them after about 9 hits. what's better is that death buildup decreases very slowly, so you don't need to apply as much pressure as you would to try and bleed or frost them. the major downside is the 30 faith requirement, but if you run 25 faith like me for golden vow and a few other incantations you can just switch to this and equip the two fingers heirloom talisman for that extra 30 faith. very niche and circumstantial, but fills that niche better than any other weapon in the game.

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Should have made the weapon art be a lunging slash that inflicts high damage and infuses the blad with death, so that way it's not useless in pve

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should i be duel wielding with this or two handing it or one handing it?

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Considering deathblight only works on Tarnished, this has to be the worst pvp build I've worked with. The buff only lasts for 30 seconds, the status doesn't build up quickly, and the weapon art is slow/telegraphed and has a tiny/short ranged hitbox. Out of 50 or so invasions, I've had maybe 1 where the status effect was remotely useful, most of the time you'll kill a target with damage before blight. The only way you'll get it to work is to land the weapon art and abuse phantom hits.

I'd recommend keeping a weapon in your second slot that is actually good in case you aren't up against complete clowns.

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I like this weapon a lot. The curved sword moveset is really good for applying statuses; jump and dash attacks hit 4 times. My only complaints are that the buff is too short (should be like 60 seconds) and that using death spells like fia's mist or death lightning removes the buff since you have to switch. Like let me cast death magic only straight from the sword. And why is there a timer for buffs AND they're removed on weapon switch? Why is there a level limit on summons AND scaling? Sometimes this feels like a PS2 game

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A cool buff for this weapon could be being able to do the 2nd part of the ash of war instantly while the blight flame is active, maybe a refresh of the 30 second timer for better uptime.

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does deathblight scale with arcane faith or what

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As a user who regularly uses this weapon but does not exploit it, I'd like to say sorry on behalf of the people who do.

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pvpweapon.exe

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Question about this. Does deathblight work through rolls like other status ailments? If so theoretically that'd mean someone could die without being hit a single time.

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This weapon is good if you have a pair and can powerstance/dual wield it. Obviously that's going to take you to NG+1 or a friend can drop it to you. Deathblight applies really fast on players. It's a PvP weapon, not a PvE. And while yes, the range is low, you don't have to go meta to be a killing machine with this one. I would take this over dual Frostbite/Bleed anyday.

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Wish this would dual wield similar to Starscourge so you could buff both hands at same time or something. Really Deathblight was more of a thing but good luck getting a proc in pvp, weapon will kill before that happens and the death spells that have the status are eh.

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Weapon is trash, got two of them to try a proc death.. in like 100 duel not a single proc. Same in pve. Its decent when you pair it with the talisman that boosts ur damage on repeated hits. I also got the hp resoration talisan on repeated hits too.

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Alright, something weird about the activation of this weapon's art is that - sometimes - I get it to create a cloud of blight. I'm not entirely sure what I'm doing differently though, as I'm playing keyboard and mouse. As far as I know, I'm only hitting shift + right-click and occasionally S, I think. Don't see anyone talking about this either...it's obviously a different visual than the simple flare of the blade, as this leaves a very short cloud-puff of a fairly significant size in front of the caster...much like poison mist.

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Fun fact : +10 this weapon + buff with this weapon art , the opponent dies before deathblight appear.
or I missing something ?

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Does this scale better with Dex or Faith?

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instinctively went +9 and respec'd for dex/faith for this bc it said it was legendary. this **** sucks ass

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Hey I want to clarify my previous comment, the replies don't go through for some reason but new comments do. I was not complaining at all. 42 vigor at level 30 with +0 weapon matchmaking is so strong when the damage of the weapon doesn't even matter because of deathblight. 3 minutes of dex faith from flasks is plenty of time for the invasion and you can still have a backup weapon. Finally just enough FP for 4 casts of the weapon art buff is great. All I said that could be seen as complaint is you need to have a lot of minmaxing done to be able to see the deathblight in low levels since at high levels enemies die before you can inflict it from just the damage of the weapon.

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Low damage, low range, and a special affect that doesn’t even work makes this one of the worst weapons in the game in PVE and PVP. It literally doesn’t work against anyone or anything in all of PVE and good luck hitting anyone 10 times in PvP

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Does the weapon art increase damage in PVE? I feel like it does but that could easily just be placebo since it looks cooler/more powerful while buffed. I can confirm that the follow-up explosion *does* do a decent amount of damage against enemies; I'd assume it's holy damage.

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Any other weapon causes death blight ? I have this one and I can say it’s useless…

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Darn it I found it and want it to be good. Why are so many awesome weapon designs waisted on useless armaments. bahh

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Isnt this better now because of the Arcane Update? Shouldnt this apply faster with arcane like all the other stats do? If so, why is it still useless? Or was deathblight left out of arcane scaling, which would make some sense.

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I want to try dual wielding this at very low level invasions but the base stat requirements are so high I have to go both dexterity and faith knot crystals on my flask for 3 minutes of +10 dex faith, radagon's soreseal +5 a lot of stats I need, DEX requirement reached! Two finger heirloom +5 FAI, commoner's robe +1 FAI, any of the +2 FAI hats. I get 37 vigor at level 30 with 12 faith from levels only and Miyazaki tells me how crazy I am and makes the best starting class deprived... 10 mind allows just enough FP to cast the weapon art 4 times. Thank you Miyazaki.

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It is an extremely good thing that they fixed the glitch with Fire's Deadly Sin. It was cheap, balance breaking, and there is nothing entertaining about winning like that. That being said, this weapons needs a buff. Maybe have the buildup scale with stat investment/reinforcement? It could also be interesting to have the light that shines when buffing the weapon cause buildup nearby too. For an effect that doesn't function in anything but PvP, it is pretty useless there too right now.

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my question on this particular weapon is this.... does it act like a shotel and bypass shields or is it completely worthless to use vs a turtle?

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Reading what people say about Death Flare after the patch it now seems the weapon art is for show only. Is that right?

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wonder does arcane help with the buildup when played the legit way

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well at least it does psychological damage

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well at least it does psychological damage

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How high is the deathblight build up per hit?

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How high is the deathblight build up per hit?

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How high is the deathblight build up per hit?

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Deathblight only works on fellow 'tarnished', i think i saw that in game text somewhere

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Did some testing power stancing these. With base stats to be able to use the shotel it took 10+ hits to get to my friend to 90% death blight status with medium armor/vitality...

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F in chat for Night & Flames...

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Tried against some PvE Invaders, and looks like it does not work at all in PvE, too many shots or direct hits from a skill charge up itself.

In PvP You more likely will kill someone twice or three times before death will build up.
This weapons has a "decent" damage while buffed,
But overall more likely for show, mechanicaly pretty much useless compared to other weapons regarding PvP and PvE

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Does the weapon art do anything in PVE?

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PRAY MY FRIENDS, FLAME, DEADLY SIN IS FIXED

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The one man who uses this normally is a chad.

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There is nothing wrong with this weapon or it's art, fires deadly sin is bugged and the problem that needs to be fixed.

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Wrong image.

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does the weapon effect do anything in pve?

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The death build is easily wrecked with Law of Regression (INT based Incantation). Fairly large radius, too. You have plenty of time to cast this before a bug abuser using Fire's Deadly Sin gets too close. Only downside, it removes EVERY buff including your own and nearby allies.

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Really sick weapon, and general idea for a weapon. If it weren't for fire's deady sin doing THAT with every imbued effect in this game I would love these to death and welcome every single one I saw in PvP; as of now it's basically impossible to use without people (including me) seeing you use this, assume you're about to try to use an exploit to kill them with actually having to try to get good at pvp, and then blast you to death.

I typically love 1 on 1 duals if someone I'm helping gets invaded, but if you're trying to exploit this **** for that you should realize there's even less chance of people playing nice with you back. Literally just poked someone trying to do this **** into a corner while the host dragon-breathed him because you straight up deserve it if you're not even gunna try to get better at PvP lol

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haha invaders go brrrrrr

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maidenless weapon

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You thought you were done with the murky terror only to meets worser cousin

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Tbh i just run from them then when their fp runs out i just beat the ****ing hell out of them. 9.8/10 theyre dogshit at the game when they realize they have to actually fight.

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This is how your enforce social distancing!

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Lmao I got summoned to help with the final boss only for the HOST to whip this thing out with the dress and the incantation buff with the boss at less than 20% HP and proceed to run around frantically trying to kill me and the other summon. Like yeah bro sick troll lol it's your game.

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So the 1v3 constant spell spam ****fest is considered a-okay by the PVP community but this one cheeky glitch is verbotten. Tells you where people's heads are. Invaders have been getting shafted since the awful PVP scene of DS3!

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every single one abusing this with fires deadly sin should be permantly banned

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i never thought i would miss fighting murky hand scythe

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This is why we cant have nice things

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Ganksquads HATE HIM! Local tarnished sends man getting carried through the game back to the point of grace using this ONE WEIRD TRICK!

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