Fia, Deathbed Companion

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Location Roundtable Hold
Role Quest NPC
Voiced by Chiara Goldsmith

Fia is an NPC in Elden Ring. Fia is a deathbed companion that you will find inside a small bedroom at the Roundtable Hold. Her embrace will give you a special consumable that can increase poise called the Baldachin's Blessing, at the cost of a debuff that slightly decreases your maximum HP. You can ostensibly come back for more if you happen to run out of this consumable.

 

 Greetings, great champion called by grace. I am Fia. Circumstances have compelled my stay at the Roundtable Hold.

 

Fia Location in Elden Ring

Fia can be found at the Roundtable Hold and later again after defeating Fia's Champions in Deeproot Depths.

  • This NPC moves.
  • This NPC can be fought and killed, but only in a later stage of her questline.
  • Grants Baldachin's Blessing if you allow her to hold you. Decreases your max. HP by 5% for as long as you keep it in your inventory. After consuming it and its effect ending, you will regain your full HP.
    • She grants you Baldachin's Blessing infinitely as long as you don't have one currently in your inventory.

 

Fia Questline: How to complete Fia's Quest 

Note: Fia's questline cannot be started after killing Maliketh (Lichdragon Fortissax can be fought regardless)

  • After resting at a Site of Grace in Altus Plateau, you can return to Fia and embrace her to gain an additional line of dialogue during which she will hand you a Weathered Dagger. Talking to D, Hunter of the Dead in the Roundtable Hold will allow you to give the knife to him, triggering the next part of the quest.
  • Speak with Rogier about his interest in the black knives. Speak to Fia too and she will hand you Knifeprint Clue revealing the location of a Black Knifeprint
  • Reloading the area after this part will trigger an event where you'll find Fia in a newly opened room near the blacksmith, after which she'll disappear.
  • You will then need to head to the tallest part of Deeproot Depths, up the tree branches near Godwyn's corpse offshoot. After fighting "Fia's Summons," you may find her sitting in the back of the arena. Upon talking to her, telling her that you want to be hugged will trigger the next step of her quest, asking you to find the Cursemark of Death, that you get while going through Ranni's quest. [Map Link].  If Fia is not there, and she has already killled D and disappeared from Roundtable Hold, you may need to follow a few extra steps to complete the questiline. Go kill the Valiant Gargoyles and rest in the coffin in their bossfight arena (near the site of grace at the far end) to reach Darkroot Depths. After following the Coffin route to Dark Root Depths Fia may appear. Alternatively, the player can get accessed to the Deeproot Depths, by revealing 2 illusory walls, just south of the Frenzied Flame Proscription Site of Grace.
    • Note that a big chunk of her questline can be skipped, if one so desires (main Quest spoilers ahead!):
      Once the player progressed through the main events of the game up to the point of burning the Erdtree, Fia will relocate to the Deeproot Depths even if the player never interacted with her. This way, all of the steps mentioned above are skipped. [Elden Ring Map Link]
      • The arena is large. Run up to the way gate in the northeast of the area, which is currently disabled, to trigger the fight.
      • You will then be allowed to summon your spirit ash
      • Fia's Champions will spawn
    • If the player chooses to use this method, they will still find D, Hunter of the Dead's corpse on the ground where he is normally found, but Fia will not stand above it and then vanish since she already left the Roundtable Hold.
  • Bringing back the Cursemark of Death will nearly end her quest. After you give it to her, she will give the player a Radiant Baldachin's Blessing. Exhaust her dialog and upon reloading the area, she'll be asleep. Inspecting her will let you enter the Deathbed Dream to fight Lichdragon Fortissax.
  • Winning this fight will allow you to pick up the Mending Rune of the Death-Prince, which will in turn allow you to obtain an alternate ending.
  • After acquiring the rune, you can give the Twinned armor set to D's brother (NPC sitting on the floor past the corridor to the south east of the Valiant Gargoyle boss' grace site "Great Waterfall Basin"). Upon returning to Fia, you will find Fia's Set next to her, and if you reload the area, D's brother will leave behind the Twinned Set you gave him, as well as the Inseparable Sword. Killing D's brother will also get you the armor set and the sword.
  • You can prevent this scene by killing D in his first location, getting his armor, and giving it to his brother early. After reloading the area he can be fought.

 

Related NPCs:

 

Dialogue in Elden Ring: Fia

Introduction

  • Greetings, great champion called by grace. I am Fia.
    Circumstances have compelled my stay at the Roundtable Hold.
    Great champion, would you allow me to hold you, but briefly?
    Perhaps you might share with me some of your lifely vigour, and your stout-heartedness.
    Doing so will grant me the warmth of a champion. And you, I am sure, will bear a baldachin's blessing.
    Do you think it vulgar, perhaps? Where I come from, it is a sacred act.

Letting her hold you

  • "Ah, my thanks, great champion. You are...very warm..."
    [Player obtains Baldachin's Blessing]
    "What you felt light up inside you was a baldachin's blessing. Though it is but a fleeting thing, I am afraid.
    Come back to me, should you require another. I will take you in my arms as often as you need".

Talk in secret

  • I was known as a Deathbed Companion, where I come from. Afer I recieved the warmth and lifely vigour from a number o champions,
    I lay with the remains of an exalted noble, to grant him another chance at life. To do so is the purpose of me being.
    But before I could bear the noble into new life, I was awakened by the guidance of grace, and chased from my birthplace.
    Pray, be kind. Despite all that, I still wish to be Deathbed Companion.
    So please, let me hold you like this, as often as it takes.

About the Black Knifeprint (Do you know...?)

  • My dear... Have you ever heard of black knifeprints? Dear Rogier likes to talk of it when abed.
    The ancient plot, in which the first of the Demigods was slain. The black knifes wielded by the assassins who committed the act,
    along with the impressions they made, somehow hide the truth of the conspiracy. These grand affairs are hardly my forté...
    But dear Rogier began to weep as he spoke...
  • In truth I've heard tell from someone else, about the black knifeprints that fascinate dear Rogier so.
    (receives: Knifeprint Clue)
    But It wouldn't be right to give this to him, stuck as he is in the Roundtable Hold.
    Perhaps you could make use of it?

About Rogier

  • I heard that you lent a hand to dear Rogier. He seemed positively elated.
    He must be possessed of great mental fortitude. It anchors his will, and sustains him, despite his grievous wounds.
    You truly are a champion. To dear Rogier, and myself, too.
    (recieves: Sacrificial Twig x1)

Other

  • (May I ask a favor?) My dear? Might I ask something of you? Could you please find the owner of this dagger, and return it to them? [Receive Weathered Dagger] A certain person gave it to me as a gift. It's a very precious thing. It must have a special place in the owner's heart. So I would like for the owner to have it back, if you wouldn't mind.
  • (Upon D's death) Finally, it is returned to its rightful place. The stolen hallowbrand, of the exalted noble. And now, I must bid you goodbye as well. Though I ask you deliver this message to the Roundtable Hold. I am Fia, Deathbed Companion. Hark, Roundtable. Disturb not the Death of Godwyn, the exalted. We, who humbly live in Death...Live in waiting, to one day welcome our Lord. What right does anyone have to object? Our Lord will rise. The Lord of the many, and the meek.

At Deeproot Depths after defeating her champions.

  • "Ah...there you are.
    I knew you would come.
    What is it you intend?
    To deny us, and our ways?
    Like the dogmatic brutes of the Golden Order?"

  • (Answering her "That's Right")
    "I see. Then you must kill me.
    For I am the companion of Godwyn, Prince of Death.

     I wished to be a mother to Those Who Live in Death.
    So it is, that any loathing, any hatred that overshadows them...
    I must bear, as a matter of duty, with my own flesh.
    (You can talk to her again to get the chance to change your choice)
    "Go on, kill me.
    You deny us, do you not?
    Because we deign to live in Death, and wish our Lord to rise to glory.
  • (Answering "No, I want to be held")
    "You are an odd one.
    I am the guardian of Those Who Live in Death.
    They call me a foul and rotten witch.
    Yet you still wish to be held by me?"
    Proceeds to hug her.
  • Talk in Secret 1
    "Have you ever seen a hallowbrand?
    When the first of the demigods died, his flesh was marked with the half-wheel wound of the centipede.
    Godwyn's hallowbrand has since been recovered at the Roundtable Hold.
    But there is another hallowbrand out there somewhere.
    And I must find it.
    Before the time comes we receive our Lord."
  • Talk in Secret 2
    "When Godwyn died, a hallowbrand scored his flesh.
    But another exists. Another mark in the shape of the half-wheel wound of the centipede.
    And I must find it.
    Before the time comes we receive our Lord.
    My hands will be dirtied once more by the deed.
    Will you still let me hold you, even then?"
    Gives you the choice to "Give Cursemark of Death".
  • Give Cursemark of Death:
    "This...is the other hallowbrand.
    How did you...
    Oh, my utmost thanks.
    With this, Godwyn can take his rightful place as First of the Dead.
    And claim a second, illustrious life.
    You are my-- our true champion.
    And though I can't be of any use to you...
    Can I hold you tight, if only for a moment?"

    Holds tighter.
    Grants Radiant Baldachin's Blessing.
  • Talk in Secret 3
    "I will soon lay with Godwyn.
    And it will surely stir within me.
    the new life of the golden prince, and first Dead of the demigods,
    as the rune of Those Who Live in Death.
    Please, do one thing for me.

    Brandish this child, my rune, and take for yourself the throne.
    Stay the persecution of Those Who Live in Death.
    By becoming our Elden Lord."
  • Talk in Secret 4
    "I will soon lay with Godwyn.
    To conceive my child, the rune.
    Brandish my rune, and take for yourself the throne.
    Stay the persecution of Those Who Live in Death.
    By becoming our Elden Lord."
  • Talk in Secret 5 (Being held after reloading, before she sleeps)
    "This is goodbye, my dear.
    But I am satisfied.
    I choose to lie with Godwyn of my own will. Not the remains of one chosen for me.
    And I will bear a child.
    Who will inherit your warmth, too.
    What greater blessing could there be, but to be born a Deathbed Companion?"

When attacked

  • Godwyn... Is that you, dear?

Upon defeat

  • Will your kind never stop? Ravaging... the weak?

 

Elden Ring Fia Notes & Trivia

  • Fia's name in earlier versions of the game was “Lady Yuliya.”
  • You can find Lionel's dessicated corpse on a bed in Leyndell alongside Fia's dress
  • Receiving Fia's embrace will result in a debuff that lowers 5% of total vitality but can be removed from using Baldachin's Blessing.
  • Allowing Fia to grant her blessing will trigger an animation where she will embrace the Tarnished.

    fia hold
    [Fia holding the Tarnished close when offering her blessing.]
  • Receiving Fia's embrace while playing online will result in player's build being uploaded to Elden Ring server to be used as one of the randomized Fia's Champions.

 

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    • Anonymous

      I've traveled quite a long way to find and bring her what she wanted, and what she did was greet me with an army of her simps. Crazy woman.

      • Anonymous

        when i did this quest i did not know that d's brother would kill her and i instantly went monkey mode and backstabbed him as if i was playing ds1 pvp

        • Anonymous

          Accidentally locked myself out of this ending because when she went "well you better just ****in' kill me, then!" I did exactly that

          • Anonymous

            Whenever I’m having a crap day I look at the comments on this page and the D brothers and realize I my life isn’t so crappy anymore.

            • Anonymous

              If you consider downvotes upvotes and vice versa on this page then this comment section becomes bearable

              • Anonymous

                Fia this, D that. Why not let CHAOS TAKE THE WORLD SO WE DON'T HAVE TO TALK ABOUT ANY OF THAT MORALITY STUFF.

                MAY CHAOS TAKE THE WORLD! MAY CHAOS TAKE THE WORLD! MAY CHAOS TAKE THE WORLD!

                • Anonymous

                  Just remember she probably caught something after laying with a rotting corpse thats full of maggots and pus

                  • Anonymous

                    When you get the regular Baldachin from her, you get a -5% HP debuff, but after she embraces you for the last time to give you the Radiant Baldachin, i noticed that she gets a damage (4 HP damage), and the blessing doesn't inflict you any HP debuff. In my theory, this shows the first embrace is just her doing her job, like a prostitute where you have to "pay" to get "something", in this case, it's your "lively vigor". Then the second one was when she's doing it on her own will because you made her built some kind of affection towards you for supporting her through her quests. Some of you may already understand, but man, that 4 HP damage she gets after embracing you proves this even further. Such detail.

                    • Anonymous

                      Honestly probably their best attempt to create an actual character and she still feels like she was added at the last minute when they realized they needed side quests

                      • Anonymous

                        Why do people like her so much? she kills D and inadvertently Rogier too by filling his head with some heroic nonsense about accepting the undead leading to him researching Godwyn's corpse and getting blighted by it. Ranni may too be manipulative but she at least has good cause for her actions. The dead have no need for sympathy, and sympathy for the undead is only foolish. For to offer salvation to the undead is to conversely curse all things living. oh and also Fia's buff sucks bad.

                        • Anonymous

                          She suddenly disappeared from the Roundtable hold, I thought she would be a permanent NPC but yea shes gone and I hadnt even started her questline. Anyone know where she could have gone? I killed D Hunter of the Dead waaay at the beginning at like level 10 or something by accident, before I got to the Roundtable, maybe thats somehow related?

                          • Anonymous

                            Scroll down to see the absolute lengths Dark Souls players would go to to defend a woman who gave them a hug once.

                            • just tested, killing her at the prince of deaths throne has her drop nothing, but resting at the grace and going back, you can take her set where she used to be.

                              • Anonymous

                                I wonder if there are any connections between her and Marika? Marika had apparently planned to "search the depths of the Golden Order," and even planned to kill herself/let herself be killed for the sake of shattering the Elden Ring after Godwyn's death...

                                Fia kind of resembles Marika, and her room at the Hold is decked out with portraits of her. At the end of her quest, she lays with Godwyn to produce the Mending Rune of the Death-Prince, dying for her cause. Not that I think she and Marika are the same person, but I do wonder if maybe these connections serve to illustrate Marika's predilections?

                                Maybe it wasn't that Marika wanted endless battle, but rather these "depths of the Golden Order" related to the sullying that produced Those Who Live in Death? (According to Goldmask's revelations, TWLiD are permitted to exist purely out of need for a common enemy, which seems to correspond more with Radagon's devotion to Fundamentalism.) I wonder, if Marika had a wish for the world after her death, would it have been that a Tarnished might commence the Age ot the Duskborn? Or was she simply indifferent by that point?

                                • Anonymous

                                  Crazy *****, the damn zombies started it by always attacking me. Don’t go treating me like the bad guy.

                                  • Anonymous

                                    Trash tier waifu, why simp for a necrophiliac thot who sympathizes with evil murder skeletons when you have the cool and cute witch lady, and who could forget the beloved turtle pope?

                                    • Anonymous

                                      You can trigger her giving you the dagger prior to Altus by making progress in Nokron, possibly linked to Ranni's quest line, maybe obtaining the item in Nokron for her. If you return to Roundtable she will give you the dagger and ask you to find the owner. Happened on two different playthroughs following the exact same route (IE the walkthrough).

                                      • Anonymous

                                        This ***** isn’t falling asleep after the hug then super hug she tells me she wants me to use her rune and I’m pretty sure she goes to sleep after re-loading the area, iv rested at the grace, took the
                                        Way-gate & fast travelled back still awake. If I’m missing something could anyone please educate me in the ways of Roofies or if it’s a bug, Anyone know a fix

                                        • Anonymous

                                          So I think it's pretty obvious what happened. D proposed to her which involved giving her a knife as a hope to turn her away from banging corpses and get her to go away with him. Her cold rejection that was designed to hurt as much as possible by having another person bring it back instead of facing him drove him over the edge and he ended himself only for FIA to come and gloat over the body

                                          • Anonymous

                                            Very weird questline, she hugged me, said some weird stuff about lying down with Godwyn, fell asleep, went into her dreams and fought a badass red lightning slinging Lichdragon, she died, and then D's brother came along, stabbed her corpse, smacked talked her and Godwyn, then he just vanished when i sat down, no idea wtf was going on, but i got to fight an awesome dragon and got a pretty cool sword so worth ig?

                                            • Anonymous

                                              So I find it cool how the soul's games attract some of the sharpest minds, though some sifting is still required. That said, I know some of you will see what I see when looking at the like to dislike ratio of these comments, considering each one and this thread's topic. It's sad and gross at the same time. Lads, it ain't loneliness, it's boredom. If anyone bothers to like / dislike this the ratio should speak for itself.

                                              • Anonymous

                                                Any ending but hers. I’d rather see the whole world burn then use her “child”. I think I’ll stick with the better waifu ending.

                                                • Anonymous

                                                  I was struggling thru some bossfight (dont remember which), hating the game, finally beats him, jumped to the Roundtable, found her and...
                                                  "Ah, my thanks, great champion. You are...very warm..."
                                                  and I melt, while starring at screen
                                                  That's.. so.. very sweet..
                                                  T_____T

                                                  • Anonymous

                                                    She was out to get the D.
                                                    Then she got the D.
                                                    But never the Godwyns.
                                                    She dies.
                                                    No one wins.
                                                    'cept you, dear tarnished...

                                                    • Anonymous

                                                      So I did this whole chain quest with only radahn dead. the dialogue got backed up when it came to Rogier cause he was just asleep there and so I reloaded a few times to let him die to clear that road bump, that resolved never truely needing to interact with Rogier. Then but I'm confused on something, I clapped up this drake and gave the armor to D's brother and well ****, she's here dead af and definitely not gonna be able to lay with godwyn or anyone else, like at all. Does that mean I can't be lord's? Or is this what really makes me Death Lord of the Duskborn?

                                                      • Anonymous

                                                        I feel like she should’ve been a pvp covenant leader, don’t know how it would work but just something I feel like from missed out on with her and D with the golden order. Dislike this comment if you agree.

                                                        • Anonymous

                                                          does anyone test that sending gate to leyndell beside her on deeproot depth, is it accessible even you didnt defeat 2 shardbearer first?

                                                          • Anonymous

                                                            I didn't do her ending but pretty sure it involves a Maury clip him saying "Godwyn you are not the father." The way she's giving out hugs to strangers. You know she's been passed a "round" the table a few times. Pretty sure the 5% health debuff is venereal. Baldachins Blessing is just some magical Valtrex.

                                                            • Anonymous

                                                              Ngl I killed fia after defeating her champions in my playthrough. I accidentally skipped the entirety of Rogier’s questline, so I just assumed Fia was evil, and I didn’t know killing her would lock me out of a boss and ending.

                                                              • Anonymous

                                                                Hopefully I'm not the only one who completely forgot the Blessing and had their health reduced for the entire game.

                                                                • Anonymous

                                                                  Slow ass animation when held, that's some bullshit we should be able to skip it, at least to do the quest quickly

                                                                  • Anonymous

                                                                    I have no clue who either she or D is, I just beat her champions in deeproot depths and just cam to the wiki to see what would happer if you kill her.

                                                                    What I saw is a battlefield in the comments

                                                                    • Anonymous

                                                                      I didn't kill Fia, I beat all her champions but did not go to the dream world, I did give Ds brother the armour set.
                                                                      I beat the game going with Rannis endgame and when going back for Fia postgame, I assume she was dead as the rewards were there and she is at no other location, anyone else had this issue?

                                                                      • Anonymous

                                                                        Fia did her killing in roundtable hold before I had visited the Altus Plateau at all. So that isn't the trigger.

                                                                        • Anonymous

                                                                          thought she was just a nice girl. After every boss i came to her for a hug then she did my boy D dirty so i let the other D kill her

                                                                          • Anonymous

                                                                            After going through her questline I fought Fortissax once and died. After that she was gone. Could you help what I should/could do to challenge Fortissax again?

                                                                            • Anonymous

                                                                              dunno why people like her hugs so much, she's covered in corpse germs from hanging around undead all the time..

                                                                              • The irony here is that both D and Fia was trying to achieve the same goal, but their own way of conduct makes them enemies.
                                                                                D wants to save people's souls from being tainted by the living death, thus allowing them to perish having their soul and body in 1 piece. He stated this very clear on his first meeting with the Tarnished.
                                                                                Fia, despite seemingly being the head of a cult of those who live in death, is actually on her own quest to cure the living dead by mending the broken cursemark, thus allowing her followers to have a true death having their body and soul both perished.
                                                                                D simply sees Fia's cult as a plague and vows to destroy it while Fia sees D and the Golden Order as a dogmatic force that oppresses the meeks, thus they fight.

                                                                                • Anonymous

                                                                                  FIA gives you the knife after reaching atlas plateau. No shards required.

                                                                                  Dectus medallions is all you need.

                                                                                  • Anonymous

                                                                                    I gave Ds brother the armor and killed the garyols, also I finishrf Rannis Quest before however I was still able to fight the dragon!

                                                                                    • Anonymous

                                                                                      I got the knifeprint pretty early on my playthrough and never met rogier in stormveil or talked in secret with fia. much later i found rogier on the balcony and found that much of his dialogue was skipped already as well as fia's. she started talking about the weathered knife pretty much the first time i got her secret dialogue. rogier alslo never talked about the knife stuff and went "...", "..." on me pretty quick. a lot of the questline is skipable if you get the knifeprint early.

                                                                                      • Anonymous

                                                                                        Came into elden ring wanting soulsborne. Left elden ring sad knowing no girl will ever love or hug me. **** you fia for making me feel lonely

                                                                                        • Anonymous

                                                                                          Want to add that I completed Fia's questline (starting from where she is found near the Prince of Death in Deeproot Depths, fighting her champions) AFTER killing Maliketh. I had beaten the final boss and before mending the ring, I realized I didn't do her stuff so I left and got to fight Fortissax in her dream. :)

                                                                                          • Anonymous

                                                                                            I wish we ended up becoming the prince of death rather than godwyn and fia would’ve ended up being our consort just like what happened with us and Ranni

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