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Why is "Unarmed" not listed here? Definitely one of the fist weapons of all time.

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I feel like theres something bugged out with these, the charged heavy attack of the ball-type fists do way higher damage than i would have ever expect

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Does it double the normal damage it says it does because 2 of them?

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the gravity *****slap that onyx lords do would be such a perfect ash for these weapons

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blue dancer talisman was made for these, the damage output is outrageous

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Please bring back the Dark Hand, or even the Bone Fist from DS2.

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When it comes to these and Claws is it better to just twohand them, or have two of the same version equipped with one in the offhand? Is there any difference beside movesets?

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Kind of hoping for cooler fist weapons in the upcoming expansion.

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I really hope DLC gives us somethign like Darkhand (Pata doesn't count), would be an amazing paired weapon in my opinion.

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Definitely needs a buff to poise damage, anyone with 50 or more pose can walk through a full R1 combo. I think at least 3/4 of R1 combo should stagger.

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nerfed in the wrong direction imo, they could have made it just not delete 2/3s of your hp, but it still does and now no longer has cool combo setups

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can't vortex people anymore, but still fast as hell and pump out damage

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I wouldn't say they were nerfed. It was more likley a bug fix because there is no way they intended for the r2 to have a hitstun that lasted long enough to do another nuetral R2. You can still clap cheeks with fist weapons, it's just not easy mode anymore.

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Nerfed massively in the latest patch after the fist attack you now get massively diminishing returns on poise damage they still hit hard but they're not gonna be out damaging colossals anymore.

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The somber stone ones are all pretty bad but the infusible ones are insanely too good right now. I liked ds3 caestus even though i know it was too good then too, it was too good for its utility, but was conditionally a good direct combat weapon as well: fast close range attacks in the offhand for backstab fishers, good rundown potential, and good for not tinking off of shields. But these, these are just too good. Run at thing and press R2 until dead. It wont take long

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Yes we definitely needs more weapons that completely invalidate colossals

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Why yes, I do like dying in a single true combo with 60 vigor wearing heavy armor. How did you know?

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mfw when the caestus heavy attack has fewer recovery frames than the light attack. gg fromsoftware very cool and balanced

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Anyone know if these weapons can be parried?

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I hope caestus users discover a button other than R2 one day

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Ovetuned, need a reduction in 1 of 2 things: damage or poise damage.

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Caestus R2 is so strong for PvE, turns banished knights into a joke.

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back in my day, the slow weapons did the most damage.

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I just got a mace triple roll catch combo with a jump r2, roll catch into charge R2, roll catch into L2 that left my meta opponent at half health. My opponent immediately did the r2 fist attack combo that left me at like 10 hp (50 vigor, both life boost talismans, radahn armor.) My point is that a hard earned triple combo with a hammer did only half the damage of a fist running r2.

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From: Hey, Roger, we think fist weapons are slow. Increase the speed.

Roger: Great! You guys trusted me to buff Endure, I’ll work my magic again!

Me: Damn Roger needs to tone it down a bit, only a slight increase in speed is needed. Delicate balance here buddy! Claw weapons are supposed to be the fast option here, jeez!

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caestus R2 is so fast you can actually outspam a thrusting sword in some cases

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I r2 da psgspear haha

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Weigh nothing, move at the speed of sound, do truckloads of damage and poise damage. yup, this is one of the weapon classes of all time

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i'm fine with them being more oppressive but the dps is seriously ridiculous on some of these

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They really shouldn't deal much poise damage. They're amazing at crazy high DPS and moving forward fast enough to allow no escape, so being able to stun lock just puts them over the top. I will say though, reducing the poise damage would probably make them perfectly balanced.

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From doesn't know the meaning of a middle ground when they nerf things they make them utterly worthless ruining hard work thousands of people placed in thier builds, when they buff things they way over do it and mane them ridiculously op they really don't know the meaning of moderation ffs.

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Bunch of whiners and copium addicts complaining about these rather than PSGS PSSS or sh*t like RKR. All of you have a massive skill issue. Git Gud.

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hm today i will make one of the fastest and lightest weapon classes in the game do more damage than every colossal weapon combined

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literally who wanted fists to be buffed? anybody with half a brain already knew these things could pump out damage, now they're barely reactable and pump more damage out than colossal

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The most broken weapon class in whole game at the moment. Speed of daggers, stagger of colossals, phantom range so insane it outranges half of all the swords, it truecombos for variety of instakill options and it weights 2 units! Only FromSoftware can make such stupid desing, that weapons that weight 10 times more do 5 times less damage.

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Only in Elden Ring can a colossal hammer bigger than your whole body lose a trade to a tiny piece of leather strapped to your hand.

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+25 Heavy Affinity with Hoarah Loux's Earthshaker: nice pocket weapon

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What range? It doesn’t exist.

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Literally in perfect state now, don't need any buffs or nerfs. Usually I prefer longer range weapon in Fromsoftware games but after the buffs this is a very fun weapon class. Honestly the problem that people have against them isn't because of speed, range and poise damage on fists, but rather with that most "great" weapon classes have surprisingly mediocre attack range with mediocre attack speed and in some sad cases a mediocre ar...

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The range of these make 0 sense

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When the split damage fist weapons now reliably win trades against pure physical collosals.

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I beat the game using the iron ball before they were buffed, now I'm mad. It was horrible how bad they used to be.

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how is a dragon mouth shorter than a literal bit of leather over the knuckles

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Where do I find unarmed stats page

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Katar my beloved

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Could FromSoftware leave anything unbroken or test a single thing before releasing new patches? FFS every patch repairs one thing and adds 2 new broken ass cancer things. They nerfed thrusting swords poise dmg rightfully so, just to give us another totally broken instant no recovery thrust spamfest.

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do you want boxing glove, boxing glove with spikes? iron ball, iron ball with spikes?

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People complaining about these should try to learn how to space. Yes, these are viable now, which is awesome. They excel at what they should, point blank DPS. But you can easily out space people using them and punish with your presumably longer range weapon. You can’t just sit right in front of a fist user and expect to out trade them, and that’s how it should be if this is how they’re going to be viable. Rapiers we’re bad before in part because of the range, tracking, and poise damage. These only have poise damage going for them tbh, still outclassed by other weapon types when not playing in super close quarters.

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Players: Hey Fromsoft buff the fists!

Fromsoft: Yes! We increased it's speed by 4x!

Players: Nice!

Fromsoft: We will also give it more poise damage!

Players: ... Cool

Fromsoft: And it'll do more damage than Colossal weapons! :D

Players: ....

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Let’s make them viable by give them more damage then UGS. - Fromsoft

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The buff was so overkill lol these guys can now win direct trades against a great hammer. And that’s if connection is even good enough for a trade, so often my trades get lost to latency due to their shortened recovery. I would simply fix these by nerfing their damage and removing their true combos. Simple.

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These things, especially the katar, were already very oppressive on a bleed or RKR setup, now they are totally busted.

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I don't care if they slightly reduce the speed, damage, or poise damage, but I think a little nerf is probably incoming for this weapon class. The caestus combo 100% has to go though. True combos should not be present in a game that doesn't have true combos.

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these things are insane after 1.08 patch. from might want to consider bringing the poise damage back down or something

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These might just be borederline op after the patch… as much as I love these dammed things…

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It's a shame there is no fist weapon that functions like the dark souls 2 bone fist, that would've been perfect for doing a "Hoarah Loux at home" build.

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No flying dragon kick and no hidoken blast, clearly infirior ways to solve problems vs the chad Bone Fists.
let me haymaker someone at least by two handing my fist

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They didn't even try, what the hell is moveset ? Why don't I punch faster than I can swing a straight sword ?

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the low weight and stat reqs lets you focus on defenses and hp

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give me Malenias Arm as a fist Weapon pls. I wanna punch people but at the same time show how rich Iam with my unalloyed gold

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Everyone in here talking about the bone fist is a treasure in this community.

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there should be a unique fist weapon called lobster claws that gives you the spitting attack the lobsters have as a unique ash of war. god tier weapon

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hitting things shouldn't knock you back with fist weapons, if anything, it should pull you closer.

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Always keep one of the fist weapons in rotation on a STR build. With Barbaric Roar or Warcry. Activate the Ash, do a heavy attack (charged or not, doesn't matter) and enjoy a 3 hit combo with hyper armor on command. Does very good damage and can outtrade w/ many matchups. Just don't try to trade with a bleed or frostbite dual wield build because the status effect proc will stagger you no matter what.

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I used Caestus a lot and starfists for a bit. This weapon subclass is actually broken and needs one of these two fixes: hitbox buff or removal of the stupid invisible collision that pushes you away from some enemies. Against some enemies, these weapons are nearly unusable.

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these would be like 3x as viable if they just had a bit more forward motion on neutral light and heavy attacks, same with claws

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If for no other reason than them having a weird hatred for it, the Grafted Dragon somehow finds itself having less range than the Caestus, a weapon that is basically your normal fist wrapped in leather.

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endure and storm stomp can make these pretty beastly

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No hitbox for bare fists?

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Doing a Kazuma Kiryu build what fist weapon would fit best and what ash of war you guys think?

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From once again not giving much thought or love to claw's and fists

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Here's hoping one of the DLC is Land of the Reeds and we get something akin to the Bone Fist. Those charged R2s on the Caestus leave me hopeful.

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Because Mike Tyson.

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Get outspeed by rapiers and curved swords

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These feel aweful to use - why would you give an innate powerstance weapon like this the regular weapon button mapping? It feels so counter intuitive to use when every other dual wielded weapon has combo attacks on L1, whilst these have a block that is utterly useless instead?

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I never even played DS2 and even I miss Bone Fist.

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Spiked caestus is better than regular caestus by 1-2 points and has bleed, star fist is better than iron ball by 4-10 points and has bleed, morning star is better than mace by 3-8 points and has bleed. Even in the previous games so many weapons are ever so slightly direct downgrades to their spiked counterparts. Can you do something slightly unique like increase the str scaling on unspiked counterparts so they have a reason to exist like how the club v spiked club works? As it stands, the only real reason you'd use the unspiked versions is to knock your weight load down by half a point or for fashion souls.

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Some of these are not bad, but the Bone Fists were something else

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Would love it if they brought back some form of the champions ring from DS2 to have a truly unarmed experience

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I love the katar it reminds me of maplestory

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I don't see where any of these mention 2 handing becoming 2 fists, but does anyone know of that is better than equipping 2 of them?

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The CHAD weapon type

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Why there're no ashes of war exclusive for fists? I want to see something like rapid punch, upper cut, hadoken etc.

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Fists pros and cons

Pros:
Deals good damage
Fast speed
Doesn't need two in order to duel wield (Except Grafted Dragon)
Good scaling
Light weight
Cool

Cons:
Abysmal range

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Fromsoft please add Bone fist from DS2

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While not the best build objectively, I’ve been having fun running grafted dragon on my off hand with the Magma Wyrm Curved Sword in my right for thematic reasons, but it’s also great bc I prefer the dragon’s ash of war and the one handed move set of the curved sword. Plus having a dragon on your hand is just sick

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I REALLY wish that insane shoryuken alexander does was an ash for these

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gotta love using these on bosses that keep ****ing moving around. The suffering is real.

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People sleeping on Cipher Pita, but great tech on any build with 30+ faith. Unless you're already using all 6 slots then it's free!

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STANDING HEEEERE

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Have faith bois
Remember -- the Bone Fist was only added in the 3rd DLC of DS2. We'll get our weapon yet!

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There seems to be a bug when "2-handing" fist or claw weapons, to where you can't sprint attack for some time after jumping/landing. It really hampers using jumping as a feint in pvp. If you power stance 2 different fist or claws the sprinting L1 will work even though its the exact same attack as the 2-handed sprinting R1. Already contacted Bandai about it, but wanting to spread the word

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more fist weapons when

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There seems to be a bug when "2-handing" fist or claw weapons, to where you can't sprint attack for some time after jumping/landing. It really hampers using jumping as a feint in pvp. If you power stance 2 different fist or claws the sprinting L1 will work even though its the exact same attack as the 2-handed sprinting R1. I hope this gets fixed like the rolling rapier bug, but with how rare fist/claw weapons seem to be used my hopes aren't high. Posting on both pages for visibility.

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There seems to be a bug when "2-handing" fist or claw weapons, to where you can't sprint attack for some time after jumping/landing. It really hampers using jumping as a feint in pvp. If you power stance 2 different fist or claws the sprinting L1 will work even though its the exact same attack as the 2-handed sprinting R1. I hope this gets fixed like the rolling rapier bug, but with how rare fist weapons seem to be used my hopes aren't high

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grafted dragon so underrated

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I just wanna Kung-Fu again like i could in DS2

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it should be illegal that something like the bone fist from dark souls 2 isnt in this game

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I beg, PRAY EVEN, that this game has dlc and we get the bone fist equivalent from DS2

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When you hold "Y" and push "RB" to "two hand" a fist weapon you get a second copy in your other hand. My question is, does this still count as 2 handing, resulting in +50% strength bonus?

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