Fists are a type of Weapon in Elden Ring. Fists are equipped on both hands and excel in short-range combat, allowing users to perform fast and rapid attacks that can quickly elminate hostile Enemies.
Fists are compatible with a range of different Ashes of War, allowing you to mix and match for whatever your needs may be.
NOTE: As of Patch 1.08, the speed of some attacks has been increased and the recovery time has been reduced.
Elden Ring Fist Range Comparison
Weapon Range Data for Fists in Elden Ring. Credits to user Kaj.
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Elden Ring Fists Base Values
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Name |
Phy | Mag | Fire | Ligh | Holy | Crit Boost |
Str | Dex | Int | Fai | Arc | Wgt | Skill |
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![]() Caestus |
90 35 |
- 20 |
- 20 |
- 20 |
- 20 |
100 20 |
8 D |
8 D |
- - |
- - |
- - |
1.5 | 9 |
![]() Spiked Caestus |
91 35 |
- 20 |
- 20 |
- 20 |
- 20 |
100 20 |
8 D |
10 D |
- - |
- - |
- - |
2 | 9 |
![]() Katar |
97 36 |
- 21 |
- 21 |
- 21 |
- 21 |
110 21 |
8 D |
10 D |
- - |
- - |
- - |
2.5 | 14 |
![]() Iron Ball |
101 38 |
0 22 |
0 22 |
0 22 |
0 22 |
100 22 |
11 D |
8 E |
- - |
- - |
- - |
2.5 | 16 Endure (has Braggart's Roar equipped) |
105 41 |
0 23 |
0 23 |
0 23 |
0 23 |
0 23 |
12 D |
8 E |
- - |
- - |
- - |
3.0 | 9 |
|
80 31 |
24 36 |
0 17 |
0 17 |
0 17 |
100 21 |
8 E |
22 C |
- - |
- - |
16 D |
3.0 | 14 |
|
![]() Veteran's Prosthesis |
83 30 |
0 20 |
0 20 |
53 48 |
0 20 |
100 24 |
15 D |
12 D |
- - |
- - |
- - |
4 | 15 |
0 9 |
0 14 |
0 14 |
0 14 |
85 61 |
100 19 |
- - |
- - |
- - |
30 C |
- - |
0 | 17 |
|
![]() Grafted Dragon |
89 27 |
- 18 |
57 44 |
- 18 |
- 18 |
100 22 |
20 D |
14 D |
- - |
16 D |
- - |
2.5 | 20 |
Elden Ring Fists Max Standard Values
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Name | Phy | Mag | Fir | Lit | Hol | Cri | Sta | Str | Dex | Int | Fai | Arc | Any | Phy | Mag | Fir | Lit | Hol | Bst | Rst | Wgt | Upgrade |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Caestus | 220 | - | - | - | - | 100 | 100 | C | C | - | - | - | - | 35 | 20 | 20 | 20 | 20 | 24 | 10 | 1.5 | Smithing Stones |
Cipher Pata | - | - | - | - | 208 | 100 | 90 | - | - | - | A | - | - | 9 | 14 | 14 | 14 | 61 | 19 | 20 | 0 | Somber Smithing Stones |
Clinging Bone | 196 | 58 | - | - | - | 100 | 94 | E | B | - | - | C | - | 31 | 36 | 17 | 17 | 17 | 23 | 10 | 3 | Somber Smithing Stones |
Grafted Dragon | 218 | - | 139 | - | - | 100 | 104 | C | D | - | D | - | - | 27 | 18 | 44 | 18 | 18 | 24 | 11 | 2.5 | Somber Smithing Stones |
Iron Ball | 247 | - | - | - | - | 100 | 110 | C | D | - | - | - | - | 38 | 22 | 22 | 22 | 22 | 26 | 11 | 2.5 | Smithing Stones |
Katar | 237 | - | - | - | - | 110 | 100 | D | C | - | - | - | - | 36 | 21 | 21 | 21 | 21 | 25 | 10 | 2.5 | Smithing Stones |
Spiked Caestus | 222 | - | - | - | - | 100 | 100 | C | C | - | - | - | ![]() |
35 | 20 | 20 | 20 | 20 | 24 | 10 | 2 | Smithing Stones |
Star Fist | 257 | - | - | - | - | 100 | 112 | C | D | - | - | - | ![]() |
41 | 23 | 23 | 23 | 23 | 27 | 11 | 3 | Smithing Stones |
Veteran's Prosthesis | 203 | - | - | 129 | - | 100 | 110 | C | D | - | - | - | - | 30 | 20 | 20 | 48 | 20 | 26 | 12 | 4 | Somber Smithing Stones |
Elden Ring Fists Max Heavy Upgrades
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Name | Phy | Mag | Fir | Lit | Hol | Cri | Sta | Str | Dex | Int | Fai | Arc | Any | Phy | Mag | Fir | Lit | Hol | Bst | Rst | Wgt |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Caestus | 202 | - | - | - | - | 100 | 100 | A | - | - | - | - | - | 35 | 20 | 20 | 20 | 20 | 22 | 10 | 1.5 |
Iron Ball | 211 | - | - | - | - | 100 | 121 | A | - | - | - | - | - | 38 | 22 | 22 | 22 | 22 | 24 | 11 | 2.5 |
Katar | 218 | - | - | - | - | 110 | 100 | B | - | - | - | - | - | 36 | 21 | 21 | 21 | 21 | 23 | 10 | 2.5 |
Spiked Caestus | 204 | - | - | - | - | 100 | 100 | A | - | - | - | - | ![]() |
35 | 20 | 20 | 20 | 20 | 22 | 10 | 2 |
Star Fist | 220 | - | - | - | - | 100 | 123 | A | - | - | - | - | ![]() |
41 | 23 | 23 | 23 | 23 | 25 | 11 | 3 |
Elden Ring Fists Max Keen Upgrades
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Name | Phy | Mag | Fir | Lit | Hol | Cri | Sta | Str | Dex | Int | Fai | Arc | Any | Phy | Mag | Fir | Lit | Hol | Bst | Rst | Wgt |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Caestus | 202 | - | - | - | - | 100 | 100 | E | B | - | - | - | - | 35 | 20 | 20 | 20 | 20 | 22 | 10 | 1.5 |
Iron Ball | 225 | - | - | - | - | 100 | 110 | E | B | - | - | - | - | 38 | 22 | 22 | 22 | 22 | 24 | 11 | 2.5 |
Katar | 218 | - | - | - | - | 110 | 100 | E | B | - | - | - | - | 36 | 21 | 21 | 21 | 21 | 23 | 10 | 2.5 |
Spiked Caestus | 204 | - | - | - | - | 100 | 100 | E | B | - | - | - | ![]() |
35 | 20 | 20 | 20 | 20 | 22 | 10 | 2 |
Star Fist | 235 | - | - | - | - | 100 | 112 | E | B | - | - | - | ![]() |
41 | 23 | 23 | 23 | 23 | 25 | 11 | 3 |
Elden Ring Fists Max Quality Upgrades
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Name | Phy | Mag | Fir | Lit | Hol | Cri | Sta | Str | Dex | Int | Fai | Arc | Any | Phy | Mag | Fir | Lit | Hol | Bst | Rst | Wgt |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Caestus | 176 | - | - | - | - | 100 | 100 | B | B | - | - | - | - | 35 | 20 | 20 | 20 | 20 | 22 | 10 | 1.5 |
Iron Ball | 196 | - | - | - | - | 100 | 110 | B | B | - | - | - | - | 38 | 22 | 22 | 22 | 22 | 24 | 11 | 2.5 |
Katar | 190 | - | - | - | - | 110 | 100 | B | B | - | - | - | - | 36 | 21 | 21 | 21 | 21 | 23 | 10 | 2.5 |
Spiked Caestus | 178 | - | - | - | - | 100 | 100 | B | B | - | - | - | ![]() |
35 | 20 | 20 | 20 | 20 | 22 | 10 | 2 |
Star Fist | 205 | - | - | - | - | 100 | 112 | B | B | - | - | - | ![]() |
41 | 23 | 23 | 23 | 23 | 25 | 11 | 3 |
Elden Ring Fists Max Fire Upgrades
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Name | Phy | Mag | Fir | Lit | Hol | Cri | Sta | Str | Dex | Int | Fai | Arc | Any | Phy | Mag | Fir | Lit | Hol | Bst | Rst | Wgt |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Caestus | 146 | - | 146 | - | - | 100 | 100 | C | E | - | - | - | - | 33.25 | 19 | 25 | 23 | 19 | 20 | 9.5 | 1.5 |
Iron Ball | 163 | - | 163 | - | - | 100 | 110 | C | E | - | - | - | - | 36.1 | 20.9 | 27.5 | 25.3 | 20.9 | 22 | 10.45 | 2.5 |
Katar | 158 | - | 158 | - | - | 110 | 100 | C | E | - | - | - | - | 34.2 | 19.95 | 26.25 | 24.15 | 19.95 | 21 | 9.5 | 2.5 |
Spiked Caestus | 147 | - | 147 | - | - | 100 | 100 | C | E | - | - | - | ![]() |
33.25 | 19 | 25 | 23 | 19 | 20 | 9.5 | 2 |
Star Fist | 170 | - | 170 | - | - | 100 | 112 | C | E | - | - | - | ![]() |
38.95 | 21.85 | 28.75 | 26.45 | 21.85 | 23 | 10.45 | 3 |
Elden Ring Fists Max Flame Upgrades
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Name | Phy | Mag | Fir | Lit | Hol | Cri | Sta | Str | Dex | Int | Fai | Arc | Any | Phy | Mag | Fir | Lit | Hol | Bst | Rst | Wgt |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Caestus | 167 | - | 167 | - | - | 100 | 100 | D | E | - | B | - | - | 33.25 | 19 | 25 | 23 | 19 | 20 | 9.5 | 1.5 |
Iron Ball | 187 | - | 187 | - | - | 100 | 110 | D | E | - | C | - | - | 36.1 | 20.9 | 27.5 | 25.3 | 20.9 | 22 | 10.45 | 2.5 |
Katar | 181 | - | 181 | - | - | 110 | 100 | E | E | - | C | - | - | 34.2 | 19.95 | 26.25 | 24.15 | 19.95 | 21 | 9.5 | 2.5 |
Spiked Caestus | 169 | - | 169 | - | - | 100 | 100 | D | E | - | B | - | ![]() |
33.25 | 19 | 25 | 23 | 19 | 20 | 9.5 | 2 |
Star Fist | 195 | - | 195 | - | - | 100 | 112 | D | E | - | C | - | ![]() |
38.95 | 21.85 | 28.75 | 26.45 | 21.85 | 23 | 10.45 | 3 |
Elden Ring Fists Max Lightning Upgrades
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Name | Phy | Mag | Fir | Lit | Hol | Cri | Sta | Str | Dex | Int | Fai | Arc | Any | Phy | Mag | Fir | Lit | Hol | Bst | Rst | Wgt |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Caestus | 146 | - | - | 146 | - | 100 | 100 | E | C | - | - | - | - | 33.25 | 19 | 23 | 25 | 19 | 20 | 9.5 | 1.5 |
Iron Ball | 163 | - | - | 163 | - | 100 | 110 | E | C | - | - | - | - | 36.1 | 20.9 | 25.3 | 27.5 | 20.9 | 22 | 10.45 | 2.5 |
Katar | 158 | - | - | 158 | - | 110 | 100 | E | C | - | - | - | - | 34.2 | 19.95 | 24.15 | 26.25 | 19.95 | 21 | 9.5 | 2.5 |
Spiked Caestus | 147 | - | - | 147 | - | 100 | 100 | E | C | - | - | - | ![]() |
33.25 | 19 | 23 | 25 | 19 | 20 | 9.5 | 2 |
Star Fist | 170 | - | - | 170 | - | 100 | 112 | E | C | - | - | - | ![]() |
38.95 | 21.85 | 26.45 | 28.75 | 21.85 | 23 | 10.45 | 3 |
Elden Ring Fists Max Sacred Upgrades
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Name | Phy | Mag | Fir | Lit | Hol | Cri | Sta | Str | Dex | Int | Fai | Arc | Any | Phy | Mag | Fir | Lit | Hol | Bst | Rst | Wgt |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Caestus | 167 | - | - | - | 167 | 100 | 100 | D | E | - | B | - | - | 33.25 | 23 | 19 | 19 | 25 | 20 | 9.5 | 1.5 |
Iron Ball | 187 | - | - | - | 187 | 100 | 110 | D | E | - | C | - | - | 36.1 | 25.3 | 20.9 | 20.9 | 27.5 | 22 | 10.45 | 2.5 |
Katar | 181 | - | - | - | 181 | 110 | 100 | E | E | - | C | - | - | 34.2 | 24.15 | 19.95 | 19.95 | 26.25 | 21 | 9.5 | 2.5 |
Spiked Caestus | 169 | - | - | - | 169 | 100 | 100 | D | E | - | B | - | ![]() |
33.25 | 23 | 19 | 19 | 25 | 20 | 9.5 | 2 |
Star Fist | 195 | - | - | - | 195 | 100 | 112 | D | E | - | C | - | ![]() |
38.95 | 26.45 | 21.85 | 21.85 | 28.75 | 23 | 10.45 | 3 |
Elden Ring Fists Max Magic Upgrades
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Name | Phy | Mag | Fir | Lit | Hol | Cri | Sta | Str | Dex | Int | Fai | Arc | Any | Phy | Mag | Fir | Lit | Hol | Bst | Rst | Wgt |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Caestus | 167 | 167 | - | - | - | 100 | 100 | E | E | B | - | - | - | 33.25 | 25 | 19 | 19 | 23 | 20 | 9.5 | 1.5 |
Iron Ball | 187 | 187 | - | - | - | 100 | 110 | E | E | C | - | - | - | 36.1 | 27.5 | 20.9 | 20.9 | 25.3 | 22 | 10.45 | 2.5 |
Katar | 181 | 181 | - | - | - | 110 | 100 | E | E | C | - | - | - | 34.2 | 26.25 | 19.95 | 19.95 | 24.15 | 21 | 9.5 | 2.5 |
Spiked Caestus | 169 | 169 | - | - | - | 100 | 100 | E | E | B | - | - | ![]() |
33.25 | 25 | 19 | 19 | 23 | 20 | 9.5 | 2 |
Star Fist | 195 | 195 | - | - | - | 100 | 112 | E | E | C | - | - | ![]() |
38.95 | 28.75 | 21.85 | 21.85 | 26.45 | 23 | 10.45 | 3 |
Elden Ring Fists Max Cold Upgrades
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Name | Phy | Mag | Fir | Lit | Hol | Cri | Sta | Str | Dex | Int | Fai | Arc | Any | Phy | Mag | Fir | Lit | Hol | Bst | Rst | Wgt |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Caestus | 154 | 124 | - | - | - | 100 | 100 | C | C | B | - | - | ![]() |
33.25 | 23 | 19 | 19 | 19 | 20 | 9.5 | 1.5 |
Iron Ball | 172 | 138 | - | - | - | 100 | 110 | B | D | C | - | - | ![]() |
36.1 | 25.3 | 20.9 | 20.9 | 20.9 | 22 | 10.45 | 2.5 |
Katar | 167 | 133 | - | - | - | 110 | 100 | D | C | C | - | - | ![]() |
34.2 | 24.15 | 19.95 | 19.95 | 19.95 | 21 | 9.5 | 2.5 |
Spiked Caestus | 156 | 126 | - | - | - | 100 | 100 | C | C | B | - | - | ![]() ![]() |
33.25 | 23 | 19 | 19 | 19 | 20 | 9.5 | 2 |
Star Fist | 180 | 144 | - | - | - | 100 | 112 | B | D | D | - | - | ![]() ![]() |
38.95 | 26.45 | 21.85 | 21.85 | 21.85 | 23 | 10.45 | 3 |
Elden Ring Fists Max Poison Upgrades
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Name | Phy | Mag | Fir | Lit | Hol | Cri | Sta | Str | Dex | Int | Fai | Arc | Any | Phy | Mag | Fir | Lit | Hol | Bst | Rst | Wgt |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Caestus | 184 | - | - | - | - | 100 | 100 | C | C | - | - | D | - | 33.25 | 19 | 19 | 19 | 19 | 20 | 10 | 1.5 |
Iron Ball | 206 | - | - | - | - | 100 | 110 | B | D | - | - | D | - | 36.1 | 20.9 | 20.9 | 20.9 | 20.9 | 22 | 11 | 2.5 |
Katar | 199 | - | - | - | - | 110 | 100 | D | C | - | - | D | - | 34.2 | 19.95 | 19.95 | 19.95 | 19.95 | 21 | 10 | 2.5 |
Spiked Caestus | 187 | - | - | - | - | 100 | 100 | C | C | - | - | D | ![]() |
33.25 | 19 | 19 | 19 | 19 | 20 | 10 | 2 |
Star Fist | 215 | - | - | - | - | 100 | 112 | B | D | - | - | D | ![]() |
38.95 | 21.85 | 21.85 | 21.85 | 21.85 | 23 | 11 | 3 |
Elden Ring Fists Max Blood Upgrades
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Name | Phy | Mag | Fir | Lit | Hol | Cri | Sta | Str | Dex | Int | Fai | Arc | Any | Phy | Mag | Fir | Lit | Hol | Bst | Rst | Wgt |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Caestus | 184 | - | - | - | - | 100 | 100 | C | C | - | - | D | ![]() |
33.25 | 19 | 19 | 19 | 19 | 20 | 9.5 | 1.5 |
Iron Ball | 206 | - | - | - | - | 100 | 110 | B | D | - | - | D | ![]() |
36.1 | 20.9 | 20.9 | 20.9 | 20.9 | 22 | 10.45 | 2.5 |
Katar | 199 | - | - | - | - | 110 | 100 | D | C | - | - | D | ![]() |
34.2 | 19.95 | 19.95 | 19.95 | 19.95 | 21 | 9.5 | 2.5 |
Spiked Caestus | 187 | - | - | - | - | 100 | 100 | C | C | - | - | D | ![]() |
33.25 | 19 | 19 | 19 | 19 | 20 | 9.5 | 2 |
Star Fist | 215 | - | - | - | - | 100 | 112 | B | D | - | - | D | ![]() |
38.95 | 21.85 | 21.85 | 21.85 | 21.85 | 23 | 10.45 | 3 |
Elden Ring Fists Max Occult Upgrades
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Name | Phy | Mag | Fir | Lit | Hol | Cri | Sta | Str | Dex | Int | Fai | Arc | Any | Phy | Mag | Fir | Lit | Hol | Bst | Rst | Wgt |
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Caestus | 193 | - | - | - | - | 100 | 100 | D | D | - | - | B | - | 35 | 20 | 20 | 20 | 20 | 22 | 10 | 1.5 |
Iron Ball | 216 | - | - | - | - | 100 | 110 | D | E | - | - | B | - | 38 | 22 | 22 | 22 | 22 | 24 | 11 | 2.5 |
Katar | 209 | - | - | - | - | 110 | 100 | E | D | - | - | B | - | 36 | 21 | 21 | 21 | 21 | 23 | 10 | 2.5 |
Spiked Caestus | 195 | - | - | - | - | 100 | 100 | D | D | - | - | B | ![]() |
35 | 20 | 20 | 20 | 20 | 22 | 10 | 2 |
Star Fist | 225 | - | - | - | - | 100 | 112 | D | E | - | - | B | ![]() |
41 | 23 | 23 | 23 | 23 | 25 | 11 | 3 |
- Anonymous
Only in Elden Ring can a colossal hammer bigger than your whole body lose a trade to a tiny piece of leather strapped to your hand.
- Anonymous
+25 Heavy Affinity with Hoarah Loux's Earthshaker: nice pocket weapon
- Anonymous
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Literally in perfect state now, don't need any buffs or nerfs. Usually I prefer longer range weapon in Fromsoftware games but after the buffs this is a very fun weapon class. Honestly the problem that people have against them isn't because of speed, range and poise damage on fists, but rather with that most "great" weapon classes have surprisingly mediocre attack range with mediocre attack speed and in some sad cases a mediocre ar...
- Anonymous
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When the split damage fist weapons now reliably win trades against pure physical collosals.
- Anonymous
I beat the game using the iron ball before they were buffed, now I'm mad. It was horrible how bad they used to be.
- Anonymous
how is a dragon mouth shorter than a literal bit of leather over the knuckles
- Anonymous
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Could FromSoftware leave anything unbroken or test a single thing before releasing new patches? FFS every patch repairs one thing and adds 2 new broken ass cancer things. They nerfed thrusting swords poise dmg rightfully so, just to give us another totally broken instant no recovery thrust spamfest.
- Anonymous
do you want boxing glove, boxing glove with spikes? iron ball, iron ball with spikes?
- Anonymous
People complaining about these should try to learn how to space. Yes, these are viable now, which is awesome. They excel at what they should, point blank DPS. But you can easily out space people using them and punish with your presumably longer range weapon. You can’t just sit right in front of a fist user and expect to out trade them, and that’s how it should be if this is how they’re going to be viable. Rapiers we’re bad before in part because of the range, tracking, and poise damage. These only have poise damage going for them tbh, still outclassed by other weapon types when not playing in super close quarters.
- Anonymous
Players: Hey Fromsoft buff the fists!
Fromsoft: Yes! We increased it's speed by 4x!
Players: Nice!
Fromsoft: We will also give it more poise damage!
Players: ... Cool
Fromsoft: And it'll do more damage than Colossal weapons! :D
Players: ....
- Anonymous
Let’s make them viable by give them more damage then UGS. - Fromsoft
- Anonymous
The buff was so overkill lol these guys can now win direct trades against a great hammer. And that’s if connection is even good enough for a trade, so often my trades get lost to latency due to their shortened recovery. I would simply fix these by nerfing their damage and removing their true combos. Simple.
- Anonymous
These things, especially the katar, were already very oppressive on a bleed or RKR setup, now they are totally busted.
- Anonymous
I don't care if they slightly reduce the speed, damage, or poise damage, but I think a little nerf is probably incoming for this weapon class. The caestus combo 100% has to go though. True combos should not be present in a game that doesn't have true combos.
- Anonymous
these things are insane after 1.08 patch. from might want to consider bringing the poise damage back down or something
- Anonymous
These might just be borederline op after the patch… as much as I love these dammed things…
- Anonymous
It's a shame there is no fist weapon that functions like the dark souls 2 bone fist, that would've been perfect for doing a "Hoarah Loux at home" build.
- Anonymous
No flying dragon kick and no hidoken blast, clearly infirior ways to solve problems vs the chad Bone Fists.
let me haymaker someone at least by two handing my fist
- Anonymous
They didn't even try, what the hell is moveset ? Why don't I punch faster than I can swing a straight sword ?
- Anonymous
the low weight and stat reqs lets you focus on defenses and hp
- Anonymous
give me Malenias Arm as a fist Weapon pls. I wanna punch people but at the same time show how rich Iam with my unalloyed gold
- Anonymous
Everyone in here talking about the bone fist is a treasure in this community.
- Anonymous
there should be a unique fist weapon called lobster claws that gives you the spitting attack the lobsters have as a unique ash of war. god tier weapon
- Anonymous
hitting things shouldn't knock you back with fist weapons, if anything, it should pull you closer.
- Anonymous
Always keep one of the fist weapons in rotation on a STR build. With Barbaric Roar or Warcry. Activate the Ash, do a heavy attack (charged or not, doesn't matter) and enjoy a 3 hit combo with hyper armor on command. Does very good damage and can outtrade w/ many matchups. Just don't try to trade with a bleed or frostbite dual wield build because the status effect proc will stagger you no matter what.
- Anonymous
I used Caestus a lot and starfists for a bit. This weapon subclass is actually broken and needs one of these two fixes: hitbox buff or removal of the stupid invisible collision that pushes you away from some enemies. Against some enemies, these weapons are nearly unusable.
- Anonymous
these would be like 3x as viable if they just had a bit more forward motion on neutral light and heavy attacks, same with claws
- Anonymous
If for no other reason than them having a weird hatred for it, the Grafted Dragon somehow finds itself having less range than the Caestus, a weapon that is basically your normal fist wrapped in leather.
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Doing a Kazuma Kiryu build what fist weapon would fit best and what ash of war you guys think?
- Anonymous
From once again not giving much thought or love to claw's and fists
- Anonymous
Here's hoping one of the DLC is Land of the Reeds and we get something akin to the Bone Fist. Those charged R2s on the Caestus leave me hopeful.
- Anonymous
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These feel aweful to use - why would you give an innate powerstance weapon like this the regular weapon button mapping? It feels so counter intuitive to use when every other dual wielded weapon has combo attacks on L1, whilst these have a block that is utterly useless instead?
- Anonymous
Spiked caestus is better than regular caestus by 1-2 points and has bleed, star fist is better than iron ball by 4-10 points and has bleed, morning star is better than mace by 3-8 points and has bleed. Even in the previous games so many weapons are ever so slightly direct downgrades to their spiked counterparts. Can you do something slightly unique like increase the str scaling on unspiked counterparts so they have a reason to exist like how the club v spiked club works? As it stands, the only real reason you'd use the unspiked versions is to knock your weight load down by half a point or for fashion souls.
- Anonymous
Some of these are not bad, but the Bone Fists were something else
- Anonymous
Would love it if they brought back some form of the champions ring from DS2 to have a truly unarmed experience
- Anonymous
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I don't see where any of these mention 2 handing becoming 2 fists, but does anyone know of that is better than equipping 2 of them?
- Anonymous
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Why there're no ashes of war exclusive for fists? I want to see something like rapid punch, upper cut, hadoken etc.
- Anonymous
Fists pros and cons
Pros:
Deals good damage
Fast speed
Doesn't need two in order to duel wield (Except Grafted Dragon)
Good scaling
Light weight
Cool
Cons:
Abysmal range
- Anonymous
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While not the best build objectively, I’ve been having fun running grafted dragon on my off hand with the Magma Wyrm Curved Sword in my right for thematic reasons, but it’s also great bc I prefer the dragon’s ash of war and the one handed move set of the curved sword. Plus having a dragon on your hand is just sick
- Anonymous
I REALLY wish that insane shoryuken alexander does was an ash for these
- Anonymous
gotta love using these on bosses that keep ****ing moving around. The suffering is real.
- Anonymous
People sleeping on Cipher Pita, but great tech on any build with 30+ faith. Unless you're already using all 6 slots then it's free!
- Anonymous
- Anonymous
Have faith bois
Remember -- the Bone Fist was only added in the 3rd DLC of DS2. We'll get our weapon yet!
There seems to be a bug when "2-handing" fist or claw weapons, to where you can't sprint attack for some time after jumping/landing. It really hampers using jumping as a feint in pvp. If you power stance 2 different fist or claws the sprinting L1 will work even though its the exact same attack as the 2-handed sprinting R1. Already contacted Bandai about it, but wanting to spread the word
- Anonymous
There seems to be a bug when "2-handing" fist or claw weapons, to where you can't sprint attack for some time after jumping/landing. It really hampers using jumping as a feint in pvp. If you power stance 2 different fist or claws the sprinting L1 will work even though its the exact same attack as the 2-handed sprinting R1. I hope this gets fixed like the rolling rapier bug, but with how rare fist/claw weapons seem to be used my hopes aren't high. Posting on both pages for visibility.
There seems to be a bug when "2-handing" fist or claw weapons, to where you can't sprint attack for some time after jumping/landing. It really hampers using jumping as a feint in pvp. If you power stance 2 different fist or claws the sprinting L1 will work even though its the exact same attack as the 2-handed sprinting R1. I hope this gets fixed like the rolling rapier bug, but with how rare fist weapons seem to be used my hopes aren't high
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it should be illegal that something like the bone fist from dark souls 2 isnt in this game
- Anonymous
I beg, PRAY EVEN, that this game has dlc and we get the bone fist equivalent from DS2
- Anonymous
When you hold "Y" and push "RB" to "two hand" a fist weapon you get a second copy in your other hand. My question is, does this still count as 2 handing, resulting in +50% strength bonus?
- Anonymous
If you're disappointed by the Ash of War selection for Fists or Claws, then give War Cry or Barbaric Roar a try, the unique Cry / Roar strong attacks for Fists and Claws are really cool looking and pretty damn fun to use.
- Anonymous
Truth be told, i am kinda dissapointed that there's no crab claws fists.
- Anonymous
I'm sure some of y'all may consider it a dumb build, but I have a cold caestus with hoarfrost stomp, a second cold caestus with bloodhound step(both in my main hand), and a flame affinity spiked caestus in my off hand. The burning, freezing, bleeding combos has been wayyy too much fun, and the lack of blocking isn't an issue thanks to my light equip load. I WILL punch god.
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Something I'm not seeing people mention is that all fist weapons (except the Grafted Dragon) are paired weapons which means any damage enchants applied to the mainhand also get applied to the offhand. Any status, Bloodflame, Lightning, Scholar's Armament are all insane with fist weapons IMO. OR change their affinity and use a weapon art that leaves the weapon enchanted, like Flaming Strike.
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A ****ing tragedy they didnt add the bone fist or the vanquishers seal, what a missed opportunity. Just want my martial arts/boxing moveset back :(
- Anonymous
I had lot of succes on pvp with spiked ceastus + war cry ash + Axe talisman. The charge with r2 suprised so mamy people. Bleed activate after about 6 hits. The punch make good dmg and are super fast, faster than 1 hand weapons. The only problem is when you invade and have to deal 1vs2 or 3 then the small fist range od a problem because you can only hit one target ( 0 AOE, no wide hits)
- Anonymous
One of the only weapons I liked from DS2, the Bone Fist, would have been a great addition to the lineup for this game. Between the variety of movesets and the ki blast technique it would have been super fun to play with here. Sad to see it still hasn't returned.
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I know that there's a poison fist weapon where is it, looks like 2 snake heads
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Ah yes the good ol' tradition of beating ****ing dragons and **** with your fists in souls games, satisfying AF weapon type
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Never gonna get that Dragon Bone Fist running kick from DS2 again...
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Never gonna get that Dragon Bone Fist running kick from DS2 again...
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Never gonna get that Dragon Bone Fist running kick from DS2 again...
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Grafted is the worst, what the hells wrong with this guide.
- Scales off/Requires faith, nerd attribute for dorks.
- Can't duel wield, useless arm.
- Gotten from the dorky boss.
If you really are a fist's enjoyer, Caestus should atleast be at or near the top.
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Wish there was a gauntlet that could be used like Iron man's hand cannons. With a weapon art that had choices like the deaths poker. R1 like I said would fire a beam of fire or holy damage, could even act like a grab on opponent if they are player size or smaller if the are within the players reach. R2 the player uses gravity magic to somersault into the air while up heaving rocks around the player. Slamming back onto the ground with rocks following right behind player on slight delay could be used like the golden slam weapon art.
Who keeps putting up the "best x weapon" type stuff? Best weapons are usually subjective. Sure there are a few outliers, but the grafted dragon is not one of them. It's a solid off-hand weapon. The ability to take weapon art priority no matter what hand it's in signifies this. It lacks the innate dual wield factor that every other fist weapon has. Unless you run it with a second fist weapon. At this point I'm more so confused and curious as to what the justification is for it.
- Anonymous
you guys are still missing the venomous fang fist weapon. Found it in caelid, don't remember where but I'm sure other would know.
- Anonymous
It almost feel like these weapons were designed to be used alongside the black flame blade incantation, you do so many hits and all hits apply the HP loss effect, really powerful.
- Anonymous
Why can I not put bloodhound dash on cipher peta? Isn’t it a melee weapon?
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Lol just like hammers.. double charged re pretty setups up a riposte on most things, and is hilarious
- Anonymous
Miss the Demon's Fists from DS3. May them live on in offline mode forever.
- Anonymous
Fist weapons with the same strenght scaling as katanas, what kind of drugs did FromSoftware consume before taking this design choice?
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Why does fromsoft hate fist weapons? I want to do crazy kung fu type ****
- Anonymous
Fist weapons are surprisingly REALLY good at chasing other players who are rollspamming away to try and heal. The double punch lunge for your dash attack roll catches really strongly, And if you use the star or spiked caestus, the bleed builds up quickly. You can build on this with bloodflame or blood grease for lethal buildup.
The jump attacks are extremely strong as well and both the jump R2/RT, and the fully charged strong attacks produce incredible stance stagger, While paired, your punches cannot be deflected by any means so you can destroy guards with them. Fist weapons are finally at their peak.
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"Best fist weapon: Grafted Dragon" Sounds like Bias. I haven't lost to a single invader with while using the spiked Caestus. Its moveset is so varied and universal that I was able to counter parry fish attempts.
- Anonymous
Really hope there is a Bone Fist-esque type of weapon that hasn't been found yet. My monk build needs it :(
- Anonymous
I had hoped for the bone fist making a return. I wanna throw hadokens and stomp the ground with every attack like an overenthusiastic sumo wrestler.
- Anonymous
the clinging bone also has arcane scaling, D if i remember correctly
- Anonymous
i have to say a lot of these fist weapons feel like they should be claws
The most broken weapon class in whole game at the moment. Speed of daggers, stagger of colossals, phantom range so insane it outranges half of all the swords, it truecombos for variety of instakill options and it weights 2 units! Only FromSoftware can make such stupid desing, that weapons that weight 10 times more do 5 times less damage.
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