Fists are a type of Weapon in Elden Ring. Fists are equipped on both hands and excel in short-range combat, allowing users to perform fast and rapid attacks that can quickly eliminate hostile Enemies

Fists are compatible with a range of different Ashes of War, allowing you to mix and match for whatever your needs may be.

 

NOTE: As of Patch 1.08, the speed of some attacks has been increased and the recovery time has been reduced.

NOTE: As of Patch 1.09, the hit stun attack from heavy attacks of the Caestus and Spiked Caestus has decreased

Elden Ring Fist Range Comparison

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Weapon Range Data for Fists in Elden Ring. Credits to user Kaj.

 

Elden Ring Fists

 

 

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Elden Ring Fists Base Values

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Name
Phy Mag Fire Ligh Holy Crit
Boost
Str Dex Int Fai Arc Wgt Skill
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Caestus

90

35

-

20

-

20

-

20

-

20

100

20

8

D

8

D

-

-

-

-

-

-

1.5

9

Endure

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Spiked Caestus

91

35

-

20

-

20

-

20

-

20

100

20

8

D

10

D

-

-

-

-

-

-

2

9

Endure

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Katar

97

36

-

21

-

21

-

21

-

21

110

21

8

D

10

D

-

-

-

-

-

-

2.5

14

Impaling Thrust

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Iron Ball

101

38

0

22

 0

22

 0

22

 0

22

100

22

11

D

8

E

-

-

-

-

 -

-

 2.5

16

Endure (has Braggart's Roar equipped)

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Star Fist

105

41

0

23

0

23

0

23

0

23

100

23

12

D

8

E

-

-

-

-

-

-

3.0

9

Endure

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Clinging Bone

80

31

24

36

0

17

0

17

0

17

100

21

8

E

22

C

-

-

-

-

16

D

3.0

14

Lifesteal Fist

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Veteran's Prosthesis

83

30

0

20

0

20

53

48

0

20

100

24

15

D

12

D

-

-

-

-

-

-

4

15

Storm Kick

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Cipher Pata

0

9

0

14

0

14

0

14

85

61

100

19

-

-

-

-

-

-

30

C

-

-

0

17

Unblockable Blade

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Grafted Dragon

89

27

-

18

57

44

18

 -

18

100

22

20

D

 14

D

-

-

16

D

-

-

2.5

20

Bear Witness!

Elden Ring Fists Max Standard Values

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Name Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Cri Sta Str Dex Int Fai Arc Any Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Bst Rst Wgt
Caestus 220 - - - - 100 100 C C - - - - 35 20 20 20 20 24 10 1.5
Cipher Pata - - - - 208 100 90 - - - A - - 9 14 14 14 61 20.9 9 -
Clinging Bone 196 58 - - - 100 94 E B - - C - 31 36 17 17 17 23.1 10 3
Grafted Dragon 218 - 139 - - 100 104 C D - D - - 27 18 44 18 18 24.2 11 2.5
Iron Ball 247 - - - - 100 110 C D - - - - 38 22 22 22 22 26.4 11 2.5
Katar 237 - - - - 110 100 D C - - - - 36 21 21 21 21 25.2 10 2.5
Spiked Caestus 222 - - - - 100 100 C C - - - hemorrhage status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(45) 35 20 20 20 20 24 10 2
Star Fist 257 - - - - 100 112 C D - - - hemorrhage status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(45) 41 23 23 23 23 27.6 11 3
Veteran's Prosthesis 203 - - 129 - 100 110 C D - - - - 30 20 20 48 20 26.4 12 4

Elden Ring Fists Max Heavy Upgrades

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Name Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Cri Sta Str Dex Int Fai Arc Any Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Bst Rst Wgt
Caestus 202 - - - - 100 100 A - - - - - 35 20 20 20 20 22 10 1.5
Iron Ball 211 - - - - 100 121 A - - - - - 38 22 22 22 22 24.2 11 2.5
Katar 218 - - - - 110 100 B - - - - - 36 21 21 21 21 23.1 10 2.5
Spiked Caestus 204 - - - - 100 100 A - - - - hemorrhage status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(45) 35 20 20 20 20 22 10 2
Star Fist 220 - - - - 100 123 A - - - - hemorrhage status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(45) 41 23 23 23 23 25.3 11 3

Elden Ring Fists Max Keen Upgrades

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Name Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Cri Sta Str Dex Int Fai Arc Any Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Bst Rst Wgt
Caestus 202 - - - - 100 100 E B - - - - 35 20 20 20 20 22 10 1.5
Iron Ball 225 - - - - 100 110 E B - - - - 38 22 22 22 22 24.2 11 2.5
Katar 218 - - - - 110 100 E B - - - - 36 21 21 21 21 23.1 10 2.5
Spiked Caestus 204 - - - - 100 100 E B - - - hemorrhage status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(45) 35 20 20 20 20 22 10 2
Star Fist 235 - - - - 100 112 E B - - - hemorrhage status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(45) 41 23 23 23 23 25.3 11 3

Elden Ring Fists Max Quality Upgrades

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Name Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Cri Sta Str Dex Int Fai Arc Any Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Bst Rst Wgt
Caestus 176 - - - - 100 100 B B - - - - 35 20 20 20 20 22 10 1.5
Iron Ball 196 - - - - 100 110 B B - - - - 38 22 22 22 22 24.2 11 2.5
Katar 190 - - - - 110 100 B B - - - - 36 21 21 21 21 23.1 10 2.5
Spiked Caestus 178 - - - - 100 100 B B - - - hemorrhage status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(45) 35 20 20 20 20 22 10 2
Star Fist 205 - - - - 100 112 B B - - - hemorrhage status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(45) 41 23 23 23 23 25.3 11 3

Elden Ring Fists Max Fire Upgrades

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Name Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Cri Sta Str Dex Int Fai Arc Any Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Bst Rst Wgt
Caestus 146 - 146 - - 100 100 C E - - - - 33.25 19 25 23 19 20 9.5 1.5
Iron Ball 163 - 163 - - 100 110 C E - - - - 36.1 20.9 27.5 25.3 20.9 22 10.45 2.5
Katar 158 - 158 - - 110 100 C E - - - - 34.2 19.95 26.25 24.15 19.95 21 9.5 2.5
Spiked Caestus 147 - 147 - - 100 100 C E - - - hemorrhage status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(45) 33.25 19 25 23 19 20 9.5 2
Star Fist 170 - 170 - - 100 112 C E - - - hemorrhage status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(45) 38.95 21.85 28.75 26.45 21.85 23 10.45 3

Elden Ring Fists Max Flame Upgrades

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Name Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Cri Sta Str Dex Int Fai Arc Any Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Bst Rst Wgt
Caestus 172 - 172 - - 100 100 D E - B - - 33.25 19 25 23 19 20 9.5 1.5
Iron Ball 192 - 192 - - 100 110 D E - C - - 36.1 20.9 27.5 25.3 20.9 22 10.45 2.5
Katar 186 - 186 - - 110 100 E E - C - - 34.2 19.95 26.25 24.15 19.95 21 9.5 2.5
Spiked Caestus 174 - 174 - - 100 100 D E - B - hemorrhage status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(45) 33.25 19 25 23 19 20 9.5 2
Star Fist 200 - 200 - - 100 112 D E - C - hemorrhage status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(45) 38.95 21.85 28.75 26.45 21.85 23 10.45 3

Elden Ring Fists Max Lightning Upgrades

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Name Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Cri Sta Str Dex Int Fai Arc Any Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Bst Rst Wgt
Caestus 149 - - 149 - 100 100 E C - - - - 33.25 19 23 25 19 20 9.5 1.5
Iron Ball 167 - - 167 - 100 110 E C - - - - 36.1 20.9 25.3 27.5 20.9 22 10.45 2.5
Katar 161 - - 161 - 110 100 E C - - - - 34.2 19.95 24.15 26.25 19.95 21 9.5 2.5
Spiked Caestus 151 - - 151 - 100 100 E C - - - hemorrhage status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(45) 33.25 19 23 25 19 20 9.5 2
Star Fist 174 - - 174 - 100 112 E C - - - hemorrhage status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(45) 38.95 21.85 26.45 28.75 21.85 23 10.45 3

Elden Ring Fists Max Sacred Upgrades

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Name Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Cri Sta Str Dex Int Fai Arc Any Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Bst Rst Wgt
Caestus 172 - - - 172 100 100 D E - B - - 33.25 23 19 19 25 20 9.5 1.5
Iron Ball 192 - - - 192 100 110 D E - C - - 36.1 25.3 20.9 20.9 27.5 22 10.45 2.5
Katar 186 - - - 186 110 100 E E - C - - 34.2 24.15 19.95 19.95 26.25 21 9.5 2.5
Spiked Caestus 174 - - - 174 100 100 D E - B - hemorrhage status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(45) 33.25 23 19 19 25 20 9.5 2
Star Fist 200 - - - 200 100 112 D E - C - hemorrhage status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(45) 38.95 26.45 21.85 21.85 28.75 23 10.45 3

Elden Ring Fists Max Magic Upgrades

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Name Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Cri Sta Str Dex Int Fai Arc Any Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Bst Rst Wgt
Caestus 172 172 - - - 100 100 E E B - - - 33.25 25 19 19 23 20 9.5 1.5
Iron Ball 192 192 - - - 100 110 E E C - - - 36.1 27.5 20.9 20.9 25.3 22 10.45 2.5
Katar 186 186 - - - 110 100 E E C - - - 34.2 26.25 19.95 19.95 24.15 21 9.5 2.5
Spiked Caestus 174 174 - - - 100 100 E E B - - hemorrhage status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(45) 33.25 25 19 19 23 20 9.5 2
Star Fist 200 200 - - - 100 112 E E C - - hemorrhage status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(45) 38.95 28.75 21.85 21.85 26.45 23 10.45 3

Elden Ring Fists Max Cold Upgrades

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Name Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Cri Sta Str Dex Int Fai Arc Any Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Bst Rst Wgt
Caestus 154 124 - - - 100 100 C C B - - frostbite status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(105) 33.25 23 19 19 19 20 9.5 1.5
Iron Ball 172 138 - - - 100 110 B D C - - frostbite status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(105) 36.1 25.3 20.9 20.9 20.9 22 10.45 2.5
Katar 167 133 - - - 110 100 D C C - - frostbite status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(105) 34.2 24.15 19.95 19.95 19.95 21 9.5 2.5
Spiked Caestus 156 126 - - - 100 100 C C B - - frostbite status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(105)hemorrhage status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(38) 33.25 23 19 19 19 20 9.5 2
Star Fist 180 144 - - - 100 112 B D D - - frostbite status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(105)hemorrhage status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(38) 38.95 26.45 21.85 21.85 21.85 23 10.45 3

Elden Ring Fists Max Poison Upgrades

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Name Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Cri Sta Str Dex Int Fai Arc Any Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Bst Rst Wgt
Caestus 184 - - - - 100 100 C C - - D poison status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(95) 33.25 19 19 19 19 20 10 1.5
Iron Ball 206 - - - - 100 110 B D - - D poison status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(95) 36.1 20.9 20.9 20.9 20.9 22 11 2.5
Katar 199 - - - - 110 100 D C - - D poison status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(95) 34.2 19.95 19.95 19.95 19.95 21 10 2.5
Spiked Caestus 187 - - - - 100 100 C C - - D poison status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(95)hemorrhage status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(38) 33.25 19 19 19 19 20 10 2
Star Fist 215 - - - - 100 112 B D - - D poison status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(95)hemorrhage status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(38) 38.95 21.85 21.85 21.85 21.85 23 11 3

Elden Ring Fists Max Blood Upgrades

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Name Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Cri Sta Str Dex Int Fai Arc Any Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Bst Rst Wgt
Caestus 184 - - - - 100 100 C C - - D hemorrhage status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(82) 33.25 19 19 19 19 20 9.5 1.5
Iron Ball 206 - - - - 100 110 B D - - D hemorrhage status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(82) 36.1 20.9 20.9 20.9 20.9 22 10.45 2.5
Katar 199 - - - - 110 100 D C - - D hemorrhage status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(82) 34.2 19.95 19.95 19.95 19.95 21 9.5 2.5
Spiked Caestus 187 - - - - 100 100 C C - - D hemorrhage status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(82) 33.25 19 19 19 19 20 9.5 2
Star Fist 215 - - - - 100 112 B D - - D hemorrhage status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(82) 38.95 21.85 21.85 21.85 21.85 23 10.45 3

Elden Ring Fists Max Occult Upgrades

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Name Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Cri Sta Str Dex Int Fai Arc Any Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Bst Rst Wgt
Caestus 193 - - - - 100 100 D D - - B - 35 20 20 20 20 22 10 1.5
Iron Ball 216 - - - - 100 110 D E - - B - 38 22 22 22 22 24.2 11 2.5
Katar 209 - - - - 110 100 E D - - B - 36 21 21 21 21 23.1 10 2.5
Spiked Caestus 195 - - - - 100 100 D D - - B hemorrhage status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(38) 35 20 20 20 20 22 10 2
Star Fist 225 - - - - 100 112 D E - - B hemorrhage status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(38) 41 23 23 23 23 25.3 11 3

 




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    • Anonymous

      You legit can't hit some monsters with regular r1's on the star fist. The range is just crap their body hitbox pushes you far enough for you not being able to hit them. This game always had horrible weapon balance and hitboxes but god damn son

      • Anonymous

        Trying to do fist only malikeths shitty hit box it’s to ****ing small for the star fists short ass range

        • Anonymous

          You know, I wish there was a more goofy, fighting game esque fist weapon like the Bone Fist or the Dragon Bone Fist. A fist weapon with a unique moveset that emphasizes silliness over practicality.
          (The bone fist was DLC so maybe in the Elden Ring DLC we’ll get the Bone Fist’s successor)

          • Anonymous

            Its sad that there is so little uniqueness in their variety, movesets and especially ashes of war choices. Add to it fact that there isn't anything that buffs this specific kind of weapon when dark souls had hidden buff in the form of thorn gauntlets or bonus to kicks/rolls like the lava ring.
            Fist weapons need something else than just damage or tempo buffs

            • Anonymous

              I hope we get an Ash Of War at some point for Fists/Claws that lets us do a BIG uppercut. I wanna shoryuken some MFs.

              • Anonymous

                I feel like theres something bugged out with these, the charged heavy attack of the ball-type fists do way higher damage than i would have ever expect

                • When it comes to these and Claws is it better to just twohand them, or have two of the same version equipped with one in the offhand? Is there any difference beside movesets?

                  • Anonymous

                    I really hope DLC gives us somethign like Darkhand (Pata doesn't count), would be an amazing paired weapon in my opinion.

                    • Anonymous

                      Definitely needs a buff to poise damage, anyone with 50 or more pose can walk through a full R1 combo. I think at least 3/4 of R1 combo should stagger.

                      • Anonymous

                        nerfed in the wrong direction imo, they could have made it just not delete 2/3s of your hp, but it still does and now no longer has cool combo setups

                        • Anonymous

                          I wouldn't say they were nerfed. It was more likley a bug fix because there is no way they intended for the r2 to have a hitstun that lasted long enough to do another nuetral R2. You can still clap cheeks with fist weapons, it's just not easy mode anymore.

                          • Anonymous

                            Nerfed massively in the latest patch after the fist attack you now get massively diminishing returns on poise damage they still hit hard but they're not gonna be out damaging colossals anymore.

                            • Anonymous

                              The somber stone ones are all pretty bad but the infusible ones are insanely too good right now. I liked ds3 caestus even though i know it was too good then too, it was too good for its utility, but was conditionally a good direct combat weapon as well: fast close range attacks in the offhand for backstab fishers, good rundown potential, and good for not tinking off of shields. But these, these are just too good. Run at thing and press R2 until dead. It wont take long

                              • Anonymous

                                mfw when the caestus heavy attack has fewer recovery frames than the light attack. gg fromsoftware very cool and balanced

                                • Anonymous

                                  I just got a mace triple roll catch combo with a jump r2, roll catch into charge R2, roll catch into L2 that left my meta opponent at half health. My opponent immediately did the r2 fist attack combo that left me at like 10 hp (50 vigor, both life boost talismans, radahn armor.) My point is that a hard earned triple combo with a hammer did only half the damage of a fist running r2.

                                  • Anonymous

                                    From: Hey, Roger, we think fist weapons are slow. Increase the speed.

                                    Roger: Great! You guys trusted me to buff Endure, I’ll work my magic again!

                                    Me: Damn Roger needs to tone it down a bit, only a slight increase in speed is needed. Delicate balance here buddy! Claw weapons are supposed to be the fast option here, jeez!

                                    • Anonymous

                                      Weigh nothing, move at the speed of sound, do truckloads of damage and poise damage. yup, this is one of the weapon classes of all time

                                      • Anonymous

                                        They really shouldn't deal much poise damage. They're amazing at crazy high DPS and moving forward fast enough to allow no escape, so being able to stun lock just puts them over the top. I will say though, reducing the poise damage would probably make them perfectly balanced.

                                        • Anonymous

                                          From doesn't know the meaning of a middle ground when they nerf things they make them utterly worthless ruining hard work thousands of people placed in thier builds, when they buff things they way over do it and mane them ridiculously op they really don't know the meaning of moderation ffs.

                                          • Anonymous

                                            Bunch of whiners and copium addicts complaining about these rather than PSGS PSSS or sh*t like RKR. All of you have a massive skill issue. Git Gud.

                                            • Anonymous

                                              hm today i will make one of the fastest and lightest weapon classes in the game do more damage than every colossal weapon combined

                                              • Anonymous

                                                literally who wanted fists to be buffed? anybody with half a brain already knew these things could pump out damage, now they're barely reactable and pump more damage out than colossal

                                                • Anonymous

                                                  The most broken weapon class in whole game at the moment. Speed of daggers, stagger of colossals, phantom range so insane it outranges half of all the swords, it truecombos for variety of instakill options and it weights 2 units! Only FromSoftware can make such stupid desing, that weapons that weight 10 times more do 5 times less damage.

                                                  • Anonymous

                                                    Only in Elden Ring can a colossal hammer bigger than your whole body lose a trade to a tiny piece of leather strapped to your hand.

                                                    • Anonymous

                                                      Literally in perfect state now, don't need any buffs or nerfs. Usually I prefer longer range weapon in Fromsoftware games but after the buffs this is a very fun weapon class. Honestly the problem that people have against them isn't because of speed, range and poise damage on fists, but rather with that most "great" weapon classes have surprisingly mediocre attack range with mediocre attack speed and in some sad cases a mediocre ar...

                                                      • Anonymous

                                                        I beat the game using the iron ball before they were buffed, now I'm mad. It was horrible how bad they used to be.

                                                        • Anonymous

                                                          Could FromSoftware leave anything unbroken or test a single thing before releasing new patches? FFS every patch repairs one thing and adds 2 new broken ass cancer things. They nerfed thrusting swords poise dmg rightfully so, just to give us another totally broken instant no recovery thrust spamfest.

                                                          • Anonymous

                                                            People complaining about these should try to learn how to space. Yes, these are viable now, which is awesome. They excel at what they should, point blank DPS. But you can easily out space people using them and punish with your presumably longer range weapon. You can’t just sit right in front of a fist user and expect to out trade them, and that’s how it should be if this is how they’re going to be viable. Rapiers we’re bad before in part because of the range, tracking, and poise damage. These only have poise damage going for them tbh, still outclassed by other weapon types when not playing in super close quarters.

                                                            • Anonymous

                                                              Players: Hey Fromsoft buff the fists!

                                                              Fromsoft: Yes! We increased it's speed by 4x!

                                                              Players: Nice!

                                                              Fromsoft: We will also give it more poise damage!

                                                              Players: ... Cool

                                                              Fromsoft: And it'll do more damage than Colossal weapons! :D

                                                              Players: ....

                                                              • Anonymous

                                                                The buff was so overkill lol these guys can now win direct trades against a great hammer. And that’s if connection is even good enough for a trade, so often my trades get lost to latency due to their shortened recovery. I would simply fix these by nerfing their damage and removing their true combos. Simple.

                                                                • Anonymous

                                                                  These things, especially the katar, were already very oppressive on a bleed or RKR setup, now they are totally busted.

                                                                  • Anonymous

                                                                    I don't care if they slightly reduce the speed, damage, or poise damage, but I think a little nerf is probably incoming for this weapon class. The caestus combo 100% has to go though. True combos should not be present in a game that doesn't have true combos.

                                                                    • Anonymous

                                                                      these things are insane after 1.08 patch. from might want to consider bringing the poise damage back down or something

                                                                      • Anonymous

                                                                        It's a shame there is no fist weapon that functions like the dark souls 2 bone fist, that would've been perfect for doing a "Hoarah Loux at home" build.

                                                                        • Anonymous

                                                                          No flying dragon kick and no hidoken blast, clearly infirior ways to solve problems vs the chad Bone Fists.
                                                                          let me haymaker someone at least by two handing my fist

                                                                          • Anonymous

                                                                            They didn't even try, what the hell is moveset ? Why don't I punch faster than I can swing a straight sword ?

                                                                            • Anonymous

                                                                              give me Malenias Arm as a fist Weapon pls. I wanna punch people but at the same time show how rich Iam with my unalloyed gold

                                                                              • Anonymous

                                                                                there should be a unique fist weapon called lobster claws that gives you the spitting attack the lobsters have as a unique ash of war. god tier weapon

                                                                                • Anonymous

                                                                                  Always keep one of the fist weapons in rotation on a STR build. With Barbaric Roar or Warcry. Activate the Ash, do a heavy attack (charged or not, doesn't matter) and enjoy a 3 hit combo with hyper armor on command. Does very good damage and can outtrade w/ many matchups. Just don't try to trade with a bleed or frostbite dual wield build because the status effect proc will stagger you no matter what.

                                                                                  • Anonymous

                                                                                    I used Caestus a lot and starfists for a bit. This weapon subclass is actually broken and needs one of these two fixes: hitbox buff or removal of the stupid invisible collision that pushes you away from some enemies. Against some enemies, these weapons are nearly unusable.

                                                                                    • Anonymous

                                                                                      these would be like 3x as viable if they just had a bit more forward motion on neutral light and heavy attacks, same with claws

                                                                                      • Anonymous

                                                                                        If for no other reason than them having a weird hatred for it, the Grafted Dragon somehow finds itself having less range than the Caestus, a weapon that is basically your normal fist wrapped in leather.

                                                                                        • Anonymous

                                                                                          Here's hoping one of the DLC is Land of the Reeds and we get something akin to the Bone Fist. Those charged R2s on the Caestus leave me hopeful.

                                                                                          • Anonymous

                                                                                            These feel aweful to use - why would you give an innate powerstance weapon like this the regular weapon button mapping? It feels so counter intuitive to use when every other dual wielded weapon has combo attacks on L1, whilst these have a block that is utterly useless instead?

                                                                                            • Spiked caestus is better than regular caestus by 1-2 points and has bleed, star fist is better than iron ball by 4-10 points and has bleed, morning star is better than mace by 3-8 points and has bleed. Even in the previous games so many weapons are ever so slightly direct downgrades to their spiked counterparts. Can you do something slightly unique like increase the str scaling on unspiked counterparts so they have a reason to exist like how the club v spiked club works? As it stands, the only real reason you'd use the unspiked versions is to knock your weight load down by half a point or for fashion souls.

                                                                                              • Anonymous

                                                                                                Would love it if they brought back some form of the champions ring from DS2 to have a truly unarmed experience

                                                                                                • Anonymous

                                                                                                  I don't see where any of these mention 2 handing becoming 2 fists, but does anyone know of that is better than equipping 2 of them?

                                                                                                  • Anonymous

                                                                                                    Why there're no ashes of war exclusive for fists? I want to see something like rapid punch, upper cut, hadoken etc.

                                                                                                    • Anonymous

                                                                                                      Fists pros and cons

                                                                                                      Pros:
                                                                                                      Deals good damage
                                                                                                      Fast speed
                                                                                                      Doesn't need two in order to duel wield (Except Grafted Dragon)
                                                                                                      Good scaling
                                                                                                      Light weight
                                                                                                      Cool

                                                                                                      Cons:
                                                                                                      Abysmal range

                                                                                                      • Anonymous

                                                                                                        While not the best build objectively, I’ve been having fun running grafted dragon on my off hand with the Magma Wyrm Curved Sword in my right for thematic reasons, but it’s also great bc I prefer the dragon’s ash of war and the one handed move set of the curved sword. Plus having a dragon on your hand is just sick

                                                                                                        • Anonymous

                                                                                                          People sleeping on Cipher Pita, but great tech on any build with 30+ faith. Unless you're already using all 6 slots then it's free!

                                                                                                          • There seems to be a bug when "2-handing" fist or claw weapons, to where you can't sprint attack for some time after jumping/landing. It really hampers using jumping as a feint in pvp. If you power stance 2 different fist or claws the sprinting L1 will work even though its the exact same attack as the 2-handed sprinting R1. Already contacted Bandai about it, but wanting to spread the word

                                                                                                            • There seems to be a bug when "2-handing" fist or claw weapons, to where you can't sprint attack for some time after jumping/landing. It really hampers using jumping as a feint in pvp. If you power stance 2 different fist or claws the sprinting L1 will work even though its the exact same attack as the 2-handed sprinting R1. I hope this gets fixed like the rolling rapier bug, but with how rare fist/claw weapons seem to be used my hopes aren't high. Posting on both pages for visibility.

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