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This spell does about as much damage per hit as Stars of Ruin if you don't have Lusat's hat on. (I say about because the projectiles from Stars of Ruin don't all do the exact same amount of damage, there are like 4 slightly different damage levels among the projectiles, and only some of them do the same damage as Founding Rain of Stars). It also costs less and if used correctly can hit more times, and it can hit everything that comes in range. I'm not gonna tell you it's as good as Stars of Ruin (it can't be spammed and it only hits in a relatively small area) but it's not nearly as bad as some people make it out to be.

Also, if you ever get to cast it locked on something far below you (like off a cliff or balcony or something) it's pretty crazy. I highly recommend you try it at least once.

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You get all these terribly broken spells throughout the entire game, either by completing a questline, killing amazing enemies or simply by chilling around the world

Then you stumble upon this messed up Rise puzzle and realize you must figure out from where you can access it by following an invisible path which surely most people will always remember as that one try- and-die experience if they didn’t use any yt guides.

You get inside, follow the stairs as usual and open that chest expecting something that can at least make up for all that wasted time of your life.

And boom. A legendary sorcery.

For a moment you believe the effort was worth it… only to test this chunk of sht and see how its damage is equal to spraying water to someone’s face

Honestly that’s almost as messed up as the celebrant’s weapons. It’s beyond me how a late game sorcery with hefty requirements deals sht damage.

It would be interesting to know wtf were the devs thinking when adding all those legendary spells, just to barf things like elden stars, flame of the fell god and this.

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In one of the initial reveal trailers before elden ring came out it showed a carian knight dude casting this and the cloud appeared above the enemy they were locked on to. Why did they change that? If this spell appeared over the target it would actually be amazing for area denial and constant chip damage, and it would actually be useful in pvp for surprising hosts in invasions or forcing enemies to move. As it stands this spell is just a less flexible but more damaging version of magic downpour. Sadge :(

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Lore: this ancient astrologer must be Ranni and Rennala's ancestor. The twin moons probably started approaching the lands between after this original glimpse. All this talk about light suddenly deciding to start moving, seems like quantum physics, as if the observation changed the motion.

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Found out that this spell not only actually has very good tracking, but very long vertical range! Cast it from the Ruin Strewn Precipice Elevator downwards onto the singing bats locked on and not locked on. Huge difference in the spread of the star shower and the rain can even curve quite a bit to hit targets further away, still with exceptional tracking. Apparently the caveat to make this spell better is to cast it from high up for more coverage, range and tracking.

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TWO SLOTS? WHAT THE **** IT'S NOT EVEN A GOOD SPELL

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Probably the most underwhelming spell in the game. Look incredibly cool, but does pitiful damage. I tested it on a troll (pretty big enemy, with extra damage done to the head as well). Two uncharged comets do about the same amount of damage, but within a much shorter time span, not requiring you to stand at point blank range, and not requiring the enemy to stand still

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Imo the greatest looking spell in the game! AND it can be really decent if combined with another, spammable spell or skill. I use Hoarfrost Stomp with it and the synergy is perfect. Just always keep FRoS up and spam Hoarfrost Stomp in between. Definitely not my strongest build, but probably my coolest. And vs. big bosses it's really strong. Not Bubble Shower or Pest Threads strong, but still pretty great. Talking about PVE only ofc.

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What about casting this spell and pull poor vermin into it with radah dual stuff?

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You can trigger erdtree greatshield’s parry using your own cast of rain of stars! Requires careful timing and far less efficient than miquellas rings but hey, more you know!

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Actually pretty good for zoning when charged, pretty big AoE, long duration, and decent damage/stagger. It's also extremely pretty, so that's a bonus too

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does this work the Old's Lord talisman? I don't know.

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If damage is what won’t be increased in this sorcery, then maybe the cloud should be wider even with a quick cast, and far more when charged.

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This spell is great on a pure intelligence build. It's great as a zoning spell for PVP paired with Terra Magica; for PVE anything large completely melts with it. With a high enough FP pool, you can just cast it again when its duration is nearly over to give yourself constant cover while you blast people away in PVP. If enemies get close to you, use Carian Regal Scepter spinning weapon and win. This strategy won me alot of duels and it all hinged on this spell.

-Con

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The desc tells the story of how glintstone appeared in the lands between

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The desc tells the story of how glintstone appeared in the lands between

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Am I wrong in saying that this is the "Ancient Dragons Lightning Strike" but for sorceries?

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You can ignore the invisible bridge entirely. Just find the Lord Contender Evergaol (Vyke) and go north. It's right there.

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Looks great but requires too much setup to be good. Unless you're going for style points or just love how it looks you're better off with other sorceries.

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It would seem we have a successor to PKCS guy in the comment threads

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The clouds stay atoubd the caster, so they don't have much range to write home about, but it's absurdly effective against big, aggressive enemies like the runebears.

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I feel like this spell is hard to buff other than bigger damage, but maybe it could do headshot stagger? It’s basically a weaponized hailstorm, and it would reinforce its position as a zone protection spell against hordes or in PvP.

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1. Casts Unseen Form
2. Walks among enemies
3. Casts Founding Rain of Stars
4. Haz much lolz

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This spell is absolutely amazing when used with Marais Executioner Sword. By stacking all of the consecutive attack buffs in addition to magic buffs like Terra Magica, you can make this spell do ridiculous damage. Just cast the spell, then use your ash of war to proc all of your buffs, then all of the sudden your Founding Rain of Stars is doing over thrice the damage it usually does.

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I mean, the angry about int guy isn't completely wrong, but is just overlooking the kinda player attracted to int builds. At first glance, Faith is ridiculously more flexible. Heals, cleanses (off rip / low requirements), and access to a sampler platter of elements via dragon breath. But none of this accounts for 'fun'. I've seen people shine with int builds and they seem like they are having fun. I also sort of assume they had to farm a lot more bullshit than I did to make the build work. But I assume they had fun with that, too.

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Not only is this one of the more visually appealing spells in the game, it does high aoe damage as a pure caster. It requires 52 INT so we all knew it was pretty much for pure caster builds.

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This spell layers nicely with Magic Downpour.

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How can people say that it is total crap ? I make ~2k damages with it on large targets. I guess most of people here just don’t know how to play as a mage…

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One of the greatest spells in the game, cast this spell then use Collapsing Stars to bring them into the rain! Massive damage!

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Why this got a nerf I’ll never understand. If anything this really needed a buff since right now it is just not worth using most of the time.

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Am I the only one who likes this spell? 0w0

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this spell can be reflected using Carian retaliation and golden retaliation

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P.S. Tested the damage in pvp before and after both patches, and can say that the damage drop off in pvp was like 90% more useless now lol

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would've been good to use the GOD OF STARS faith attack that is better than Founding Rain Of Stars because Faith version is prettier and since it's faith, of course it'll be stronger and more aoe

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worst spell in game

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Why is there some insane guy in the comments raging about int being weak and faith being op? Has anyone else noticed this guy on other pages?

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Yuppi, THIS GOT NERFED !

Was that what FROM thought people would react

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Really fun spell, but completely and utterly pointless. In what situation is this supposed to shine? It deals pitiful damage, has a very long cast time and the AoE is very unimpressive. I could see this as a means to keep yourself safe while you estus? But why would anyone care at the moment. Just take the droplets that deal like 3 damage each to the face and be a man about it.

One thing I did find out is that it apparently breaks stance pretty fast. At least testing it on a giant they got staggered within 2 or so seconds.

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From hates intelligence!

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of course this was overpowered in pvp - sarcasm

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Haha it’s PROVEN yet again, FROMSOFT hates INT but is obsessed on Faith (everything is for Faith, E.G. Faith = God Of All The Universe & Everything & Everyone ! .. _ .. while INT = blue in comparison. ) ~ no one is surprised, DS3 sorceries weren’t even animated / it looked junky , whearas Faith look .. PERFECTION. [so to speak, praise his message if you agree, and dislike if you don’t like From when making these odd & unpolished & rushed mistakes]

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I was already disappointed when I found out how this spell works, but now they're nerfing it further?? Man...

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I'd like to know who at From looked at this very mediocre spell and thought "gee, this needs a nerf." Seems they're intent on making all of the "legendary" Primeval Sorceries useless.

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So, this has been nerfed in current patch, even though it never was exactly stellar sorcery?!

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they just nerfed this thing for pvp (1.09)

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WHY DID THEY NERF THIS?

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why does this have such a small AOE for such a long casting speed + such a long delay until can hit the ground ?

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Eh, I’ve found this thing can shred, granted you’re very high leveled. If you build for it properly, it can certainly melt a boss that’s large and stands still like Placidusax.

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Comment: INT sucks.

INT builds: hold my MGS, Moonveil and Death's poker.

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Founding Rain Of "WEAKEST SPELL EVER" !

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So Glad I Deleted My INT BUILD (completely, didn't bother "respecing", then made an ARC build, but that too got shadowed pretty badly from its formal self, so Deleted Arc build too, now made a faith, and I have to say faith is EXTREMELY OVERPOWERED AND WAY TOO VERSATILE (e.g. FAITH = only ones able to use blood magic, only stat good when making a necromancer, only stat used to use lightning, scarlet rot, poison, dragon (every element, but for faith only or Arc too... unfortunately not INT), ect.

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This + crystal release + big enemies = HP melt.
Situational at best.

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Int will always be worse than faith..

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Is this really that bad in PVP because it has mediocre range ?

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Absolute dogwater. No damage, no stagger, huge cast time, focus cost.
In PVE, you can cast three separate lightning spears - an incantation you find like 15h into the game - and do more than 3x the damage in the same time and FP cost that it would take to cast this garbage.

In PVP people are literally starting to straight up ignore the minor projectiles since everyone is getting wise to fact that the minor projectiles do single digit damage at best and everyone has enough poise to not give a ****.

Lastly, this has no aoe, it's literally clouds or rain, yet it has no aoe... worst design.

Please buff the aoe by a lot,
Hopefully.

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Fromesoftware should really upgrade this spell, 52 INT ! ! !
! ! ! and 2 slots for what? 0 PvP-Practicability (cast too slow, no damage, no aoe)

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07 Feb 2023 21:47__ Love Sellen, but HATE Sellen too

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This spell is terrible why is it even a spell.

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I had such high hopes for you...

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Honestly if they just buffed the poise damage and increased the range by an enormousamoint, it would be useful. A shame that something that looks so cool is so underpowered.

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Franz Kafka once said: "In the shadows, the intelligent kill the intelligent."

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works very well as a finisher against super aggressive opponents

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so is this the primeval sorcery of sellen? she uses it in the invasion portion of her quest, and the other two belong to azur and lusat.

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does this work with the winged sword insignia?

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"Is it possible to run to this at low level before doing any story?"

No, you need to get two great runes to enter leyndell, royal capital and that area leads into the mountaintops where this is located

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increase AOE dramatically pls ! ! !

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Its great for large enemies that don't move around too much. For pvp, pair with the spell Collapsing Star to pull opponents into the rain by force

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would be breathtaking if it’s short range AOE became a massive range AOE

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Is it possible to speed run to this at low level before doing any of the story? Want it to get a weather mage build up and running as soon as possible

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after patch its pretty good for poise damage and crowd control. the clouds form very quickly now and charging it is worth it now

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been getting some mileage out of this during invasions. ideal for ladder shenanigans

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Damage is too low for how slow and immobile it is. Spamming Carian Slicer or Comet deals more damage. Also, don’t really see the point of making this kind of spell chargeable.

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Basically is Arrow Barrage from Aldrich Devourer of Gods, but weak.

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I hope this gets a buff, its really hard to get and it almost never hits enemies, maybe im just really bad with it

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Pretty insane in PvE when combo'd with the deathbird spear WA. It doubles down and lets you bomb your enemies back to the stone age.

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But why was it nerfed so much, in the trailer Founding Rain of Stars had a much, much wider AOE?
Opinion from a med student: This Game is Amazing XO

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Tip 2, use rainbow stone arrows to mark your way as the stones have no distance, practically land on your feet. Hardly usefull if you are looking for solid ground ahead of you, lol.

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Beautiful spell, but hard to land against more mobile enemies. It's extremely satisfying when you land it, though.

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I use this spell for a knarly build in pvp, cast it and stand under the clouds as they don't do damage to you. Cast eternal darkness to eat other spells, and cast stars of ruin to hunt them down, followed by moonveil if they get to close, rinse and repeat the founding rain spell every so often before it runs out and you should be able to keep people away while you cast.

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You'd be surprised at how many people just straight up avoid getting near you when this is cast. For PvP it basically gives you space to get off a charged spell or chug jug.

For PvE it's actually a devastating spell. Enemies tend to just stand in the AoE once it's cast so unless you're up against like Juno Hoslow who spams Bloodhound step, you can just stack damage.

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Cannot be boosted by SHARD OF ALEXANDER

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Seeing as it's an invisible bridge that crosses a canyon I hoped the directions would have been a little less vague than that.

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Actually does a lot of poise damage to bosses if they get stuck in it for 3+ seconds.

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This spell is amazing against Morgott and Mohg, cast this right before using a shackle and just shred them to pieces.

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Kind of wished this spell traveled forwards, like actual rain clouds. It would've had a cool niche of area denial if it did as well as crowd control.

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I cast this spell and then dodge around in the aoe for faster targets. It’s really only useful to me on big enemies but so far this has given me the best damage besides the moon spells and rykards rancor with sorceries

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You wanna mention the immediate enemies that attack after crossing? Thanks..

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For some fights this is amazing, for example Placidusax' 1st form or Elden Beast. I beat Elden Beast by running in, casting Rain of Stars and when it swim far away i shot it with lorettas mastery

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the first sorcery... pretty wild to think about. Imagine what went through that dude's mind, lmao

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This was a larger AoE in the trailers smh

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It has a slight homing effect on targets albeit from a very high places. Pushes whole AoE forward towards the latter end of it.

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HYDRO STORM!

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This plus Crystal Release plus Zamor Storm must be a killer dot stack

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does this work with the rotten winged sword insignia, or anything like it?

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amazing to give u some space and ground controll during invasions

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Purple rain

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katana/bleed users not understanding how to make good builds complain that this is bad

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Wait, is the lore implication here that the advent of Glintstone is what called the Outer Gods and Greater Will to the Lands Between in the first place?

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Is this extended with Old Lord's Talisman?

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This is really nice for zoning gank squads in pvp, especially when fighting in hallways. Bonus points if you get them separated

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