Godskin Duo

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Location Crumbling Farum Azula

Crumbling Farum Azula:

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Smithing-Stone Miner's Bell Bearing [4]
Ash of War: Black Flame Tornado

HP 26,350
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Godskin Duo is a Boss in Elden Ring. This Elden Ring Godskin Duo Guide features boss locations, tips, strategies and videos on how to defeat the Godskin Duo easily, as well as boss stats and lore for the Godskin Duo.

Godskin Duo is a dual-boss fight where you'll have to fight against Godskin Apostle and Godskin Noble, both simultaneously. This fight takes place in Crumbling Farum Azula. The Godskin Apostles were led by an Empyrean known as the Gloam-Eyed Queen. She and her followers were able to wield a black flame powerful enough to kill a god. However, Maliketh bested the Gloam-Eyed and locked away the source of their power, Destined Death.

This is NOT an optional boss as players MUST defeat it in order to advance to the rest of Crumbling Farum Azula. You may have a tough time fighting the two bosses in a small room. It is recommended to bring any piece of Equipment that can inflict Sleep as these bosses is susceptible to it. Putting either one of them to sleep will allow you to deal with the other alone. They drop the Smithing-Stone Miner's Bell Bearing [4] and the Ash of War: Black Flame Tornado when defeated.

Bosses are unique and challenging Enemies that can be encountered all over the Lands Between. Great Enemy bosses can drop unique Spirit AshesWeaponsSpells, and other various Items.


 A complementing pair of creatures extremely well versed in dual-battling. These beings achieve an exceptional balance in combat, resulting in a devastating synergy.

Elden Ring Godskin Duo Boss

Godskin Duo is a Great Enemy Boss found in Crumbling Farum Azula 

  • This boss is NOT optional.
  • This is a Great Enemy type boss.
  • Closest Site of Grace: Dragon Temple Transept [Map Link]
  • Is multiplayer allowed for this boss? Yes.
  • Spirit ashes can be summoned for this boss.
  • NPC Summons: Knight Bernahl. You can find his summon sign near either entrance to the boss arena.


Elden Ring Godskin Duo Location

Godskin Duo can be found by entering the Dragon Temple at the northern part of Crumbling Farum Azula, at the great hall, the boss fight is triggered by approaching the short stair at the end of it. See it on the Elden Ring Map here.


Godskin Duo Combat Information

  • Health: NG (26,350), NG+ (26,561), NG++ (??), NG+3 (??), NG+4 (??), NG+5 (??), NG+6 (??), NG+7 (??)
    • Noble: NG (8000), NG+ (??), NG++ (??), NG+3 (??), NG+4 (??), NG+5 (??), NG+6 (??), NG+7 (??)
    • Apostle: NG (??), NG+ (??), NG++ (??), NG+3 (??), NG+4 (??), NG+5 (??), NG+6 (??), NG+7 (??)
  • Defenses do not change between phases - phase transition grants few new attacks to both Apostle and Noble.
  • Deals Slash Damage (Apostle), Pierce Damage (both, mainly Noble), Fire Damage (both), Standard Damage (both).
  • Parriable: Yes (sword attacks), which allows a critical attack
  • Can be poise broken, which allows for a critical attack (both).
    • Poise break can happen during phase transition. This cancel the attack, but not transition itself.
  • Weak to Hemorrhage, Frostbite, Scarlet Rot, Poison, and Slash Damage.
  • Can be put to sleep with ease for a long time.
  • Resistant to Strike Damage, Fire Damage, Holy Damage.
  • Immune to Death status.

While it may initially seem identical to the Godskin Apostle and Godskin Noble fight, there is one key difference; the Godskins have a shared health bar separate from their individual health bars, and if one of them is killed during the fight, they will be resurrected after a short period. This will continue until the total boss health bar is depleted, even if both Godskins are still alive when the healthbar hits zero. While one Godskin is alive, they may raise their hand with blackflame causing the other Godskin to resurrect before the resurrection timer depletes.



The absorption numbers are the % of your damage that gets blocked. For example if an absorption is 60. 40% of that damage by that type will go through and 60% is absorbed. Bigger number= less damage. An absorption of 100 means no damage goes through, and a resistance of -100 mean the enemy takes 2x damage from that source. 0 means damage goes pretty much as is.


The resistance numbers is the buildup amount to trigger it. For example if a resistance is 100 you must deal 100 points of whatever aux buildup to trigger it. Note that these go down over time, and increase each time the effect procs.


Elden Ring Godskin Duo Boss Guide

Godskin Duo Boss Video Guide

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Godskin Duo Fight Strategy

The Best Tips for Godskin Duo:

  • Put one boss to sleep and focus down the other. Refer to Sleep Strat below.
  • Use the Hoarfrost Stomp skill and spam it behind a pillar. Refer to Hoarfrost Stomp Strat below.
  • The structures in the arena are your allies, use them to gain space to heal, or to separate them and fight them one at a time.
  • If you use a Spirit Ash, don't stall too much as your Spirit ally won't last too much, so be aggressive while the Spirit Ash is active.
  • The Commander's Standard's weapon skill Rallying Standard can be used to increase the survivability of your Spirit Ash.


General Information

This boss fight is extremely tough to beat with most conventional methods owing to the fact that you are fighting two of the most difficult bosses together simultaneously. Additionally, each Godskin boss has an individual health bar in addition to the collective health bar labeled "Godskin Duo". Their collective bar is depleted as you deal damage to either boss, but depleting both bosses' health bars does not end the encounter. As long as the collective bar still has health, one or both bosses will re-appear and you will have to keep fighting and killing them over and over.

When only one of the Godskins has been killed, the other one can perform an attack where it creates a sigil in the air over its head to resummon the other. This move leaves it quite vulnerable, but the newly-summoned Godskin can attack immediately so be wary when taking advantage of it. If both Godskins have been killed, one or the other will respawn even without this special attack.

Sleep Strategy

One way to deal with this duo is to use sleep-inducing items such as Sleepbone ArrowsSleep PotsSoporific Grease, or Sword of St. Trina to put one boss to sleep while you deal with the other. Once one is dead, wake the sleeping boss up and then let them re-summon their companion before putting them to sleep again. Rinse and repeat until their collective health bar is depleted.

Hoarfrost Stomp Strategy

Another effective method is to imbue a weapon with Ashes of War: Hoarfrost Stomp and then summon your most powerful Spirit Ashes to distract one boss. Lure the other boss to one of the pillars while you stand behind it and keep spamming Hoarfrost Stomp which will deal its damage through the pillar. Be careful when they destroy a pillar, though: they can still get stuck on the base, but their attacks will go through. This strategy can be combined with the Sleep Strat above, but in that case you may want to refrain from using summons to avoid waking up the sleeping Godskin. If you summon Mimic Tear, it can also use Hoarfrost Stomp to deal massive damage to the bosses.

Melee Users

This boss is extremely difficult to fight for exclusively melee users. The solo strategy revolves around having both the Godskin Noble and the Godskin Apostle within view at all times. They can both throw black fireballs, so you have to be incredibly cautious when attacking one, as the other could be throwing one if they're at a distance. It is also imperative to abuse the pillars around the arena, to block one from attacking you while you attack the other. However, once either one goes into their second phase, they will gain attacks that allow them to destroy these pillars. The Apostle's phase-two attacks are mostly slow and locked to a specific location, which can give you opportunities to get in a few attacks on the Noble. Most of the Noble's phase-two attacks aren't particularly threatening, but Godskin Wheel is very dangerous. It's likely to use this attack immediately upon entering phase two if you're some distance away from it, so your best bet is to stay close during the phase transition to force it to use the easily-dodgeable Godskin Crusher instead. If you can't, run behind a pillar—although the roll will destroy the top part of the pillar, the base will still block its movement. (Note that it can roll up onto a pillar at the very beginning of the attack, so try to hide behind one a little further away.)

Magic and Ranged Users

For magic users, using the spell Comet Azur and a bow loaded with sleep arrows will trivialize the fight. Bait the Noble away from the Apostle, begin to fire around 5 arrows until the sleep sets in. Do not attack him. Then proceed to attempt to put the Apostle to sleep close to the Noble. After both Godskins are asleep, cast Terra Magica and drink a Wondrous Physick with Cerulean Hidden Tear. Line up the Godskins, target whichever one is further away to make sure the spell accurately hits both of them, then simply charge up and fire to watch their health melt away. Keep firing, even though their bodies will disappear their hitboxes will allow further damage for a short time. One will respawn and might attempt to resurrect the other, if this happens just use sleep arrows again and finish off their healthbar. For best results do not use any Spirit Ashes as they may awaken one of the Nobles. 

Godskin Duo Attacks & Counters

While the Godskin Duo are fought simultaneously, they have the same movesets as their solo counterparts and have no added attacks or skills for this fight (aside from re-summoning their dead companion).
Refer to the Godskin Apostle's page for its moveset and counters here.
Refer to the Godskin Noble's page for its moveset and counters here.

Godskin Duo Lore, Notes & Other Trivia

  • When you first encounter this fight, you're likely to approach it from the Dragon Temple Site of Grace. However, there are two Banished Knights between this Site of Grace and the boss door making the boss run both long and risky. The Dragon Temple Transept Site of Grace can be reached by jumping off the ledge directly west of the Dragon Temple Site of Grace, then turning around and jumping to an even lower platform and heading east.
  • Even after a Godskin is dead, attacking its corpse will damage the shared health bar for a short time.
    • Player can trigger Blood loss/Frostbite during that time, but this will bear no effect on Godskin Duo's healthbar. 


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    • Death's Poker+8 & Mimic until death. Took me over 20 deaths to realize i could use the broke pillars. Sometimes. R1 the edge, linger, run. R1 another edge, linger, run. Hop on a broke post and let Fatty McSteamroller look the utter fool.

      • Death's Poker+8 & Mimic until death. Took me over 20 deaths to realize i could use the broke pillars. Sometimes. R1 the edge, linger, run. R1 another edge, linger, run. Hop on a broke post and let Fatty McSteamroller look the utter fool.

        • Blasphemous Blade melts the duo. Add a mimic tear using it and frustration turns to joy.
          I tried with spells and rolly-Poly killed me every time when he got into ball mode. The blade stops that fast.

          • Anonymous

            Looking for a strong incentive to smash your possessions in a fiery rage? Looking for an excuse to berate a loved one? Do you want a migraine?
            Play this fight and and marvel as all joy in the world evaporates forever. What an absolute **** up this boss is....

            • Anonymous

              I don't see anyone mention it, but this happened to me tonight: I was happily going to use the sleeping cheese method and... Didn't work. Used the triple shot ballista with sleeping arrows (excuse my English) with the fatty and I was surprised that I had to use like 12 to put him to sleep... Too much I thought, but OK, he went to sleep. But then... He stayed sleeping just like 5 seconds! Does anyone know if they changed this with the last patch?
              It wasn't too hard though with Bernahl, is just for checking if they changed the sleep weakness of these guys.

              • Anonymous

                It's not too difficult with both Bernard and Oleg tanking and go something like dual wield bleed jump attacks while they're attacking the summons. Gotta be quick though as summons die fast.

                • Anonymous

                  Thanks to everyone's help! I had a GREAT time throwing sleep pots and then slowly and satisfyingly melting both with my Ghiza's Wheel.

                  • Anonymous

                    the music depicts an epic battle.

                    The actual battle translates to running in a circle for 20 minutes and occasionally poking them one or twice.

                    • Anonymous

                      Kinda messed up that they gave one of the best tracks in the whole game to Wario and Waluigi on 100 trucks worth of crack.

                      • Anonymous

                        Although this fight is undeniably "questionably" designed, The soundtrack for this fight goes ridiculously hard considering it's not even really a major boss lore-wise.

                        • Anonymous

                          If you want a little revenge on those wankers try using Mohgwyn's Sacred Spear from behind pillars. Very satisfying to see them melt from behind the wall, whos smart now jumbo?! I can hit u through the wall too!

                          • Anonymous

                            lol i walked into their arena from the opposite side and didnt see any messages warning me about the boss fight, was a little sussed out by the big ass room with no enemies but definitely didn't expect these clowns to show up. had like 40k runes too so i was kinda stressed out. somehow beat them first try tho, thank god for +9 bloodhound's fang + mimic tear chewing thru their hp fast ig. i'll take these guys over the ****ing dual gargoyles and dual crucible knights fight anyday

                            • Anonymous

                              I am unsure if anyone has mentioned this strat but here's what I did: ignore the fat boy and kill the Slenderman looking ***** about 8 times. If you don't phase the fat one you never have to deal with rollypolly bullshit. As a melee character he's the biggest issue for me and this was before I knew he stopped rolling at the 2nd pillar he encounters. The Slenderman looking **** is way easier of a phase and way less damage when clipped or so it seemed to me. You do not have to hit the fat one at all if you don't want to.

                              TLDR: IGNORE fat man, dodge fireballs and kill Slenderman 8 times. Good luck.

                              • There are three Ways to deal with this O&S fake.

                                1: The Normal way and suffer through an terrible duo fight but feel like a god.

                                2: The Sleep-Pot Method which makes this fight absolute easy

                                3: Every other cheese method

                                I personally prefer option 2 since this fight is terrible and both of them are so aggressive and their moveset isn´t made to be a duo fight. A cheap tactic for an cheap boss.

                                • Anonymous

                                  Nice how they gave the worst mandatory boss in the game one of the best themes, which is pretty much the only thing I liked about this stupid cluster**** of a fight.

                                  • I've soloed the Godskin Duo around 340 times for other people (without sleep or bleed) and I have some advice if your struggling with the Duo. Once the fight starts wait until there is a decent amount of distance between the Apostle and the Noble (about the distance of a pillar). First of all, you want to focus the Godskin Noble, make sure to NOT attack or damage the Godskin Apostle at all before the Noble is dead. This is because the Apostle is passive until you hit him and will walk slowly and mostly throw fire balls. Ok, advice for the Godskin Noble, if your REALLY close to him right after his phase transition, he will most of the time do the move where he jumps into the air and slams down instead of rolling. You usually have to I-frame the explosion during his phase transition to get close enough for him to do this, during this window of time after the explosion and before he jumps, you can usually get in 1 to 2 jump attacks. Another with thing with the Noble is whenever you close the distance on him before or immediately after he finishes throwing his fire ball, there is a 90% chance he will immediately cast black flame ritaul. The other 10% of the time he will either do his delayed hilt Stomp, or the double hilt Stomp. I've only seen him not do one of those 2 things around 5 or 6 times in my entire career. This window of time should allow you to do 1 to 2 jump attacks based on how fast you closed the distance before you have to dodge away from his blackflame ritual or hilt stomps. If he rolls at any point you can either dodge through him or dodge to the side and start running in circles. To counter his multi thrust attack simply dodge to the side and run to his back. After the Noble is dead, kill the Apostle. Advice I have for the Godskin Apostle is to not fight him near walls or pillars because if you get stuck during his weapon spin you'll take a lot of damage. Ok for his phase transition dodge explosion like you did for the Noble. After the Apostle enters phase 2, he will 99% of the time do the move where he stretches his body and swings his weapon around him, while leaving behind a trail of black flame. If you are within hugging range of him during this move then it will not hit you and you can get about 3 jump attacks in. During the move where he extends his body and lunges at you with the spinning weapon, the bottom half of hit torso will stay put. Simply dodge through him and attack his torso, you can usually get 2 to 3 jumping attacks from this. Ok now the hard part, the Blackflame Tornado, if you see him charging it up, run. If you get caught there IS a way to survive. You will get stunlocked while he's spinning it and take a lot of damage, there will be a brief window were he stops before plunging his weapon into the ground and do final burst to finish you off. During this window, you must dodge and I-frame the final burst of the Tornado, and if you don't it will almost always result in death. They both have a move where they raise their arm into the air to resummon each other. This leaves them extremely exposed, so use hard hitting attacks on them during this or use something like "Chilling Mist" to instantly frostbite them. That's all the important advice have for now without going into extreme detail. Hey, and if you still are having trouble, my sign is usually down between 9:00pm - 10:00pm CST, I play on Ps4 and I'm level 125 so the level ranges I can help with are 105-150 due to Co-op limitations. My Elden Ring name is "Imma Solo Them". If your not within the level ranges I mentioned, DM me so I can set up a multiplayer password to help you. My Discord tag is Eggwo#5953. I hope this information helpful and if you've made it this far, have a wonderful rest of your day!

                                    • Anonymous

                                      Im kinda disappointed tbh :( was expecting hell and then I just oneshot them

                                      Arcane build and Headless Knight ashes just melted them for me. Plus dragon communion seal buffs.

                                      • Anonymous

                                        Rage-inducing in a first playthrough, but, in my opinion, really fun in coop with standard/slash/thrust damage once the player is experimented ! It’s pretty cool this dynamic to have for example 2 players on one and the third occupying the other, and swap roles from time to time.

                                        • Anonymous

                                          I think the safest option to defeat this guy without summons and sleep is only targeting the fatty one. The Apostle is fairly passive in his first phase so you don't even have to care about him apart from the occasional Black Flame. Sure that means having to defeat Noble 4 times in a row with Apostle backing him up, still tough as hell.

                                          • Anonymous

                                            Pure melee fight here, with only 1 ghost and no other guys to help. Was given me a hard time and the one thing it worked for me was that

                                            Make sure you have some sleep arrows, like 10 or so. Target the fat guy (the other does some funny dance movements and evades the arrows) until he fall asleep (like 3-4 needed). Make short work of the other (usualy he drops in like 40-50 seconds) and then stub the sleepy one. By the time he awakes and does the resurrection thingy on his poor comrade he drops dead. Summon your best ghost buddy then and deal with the skiny one. When he ressurectes fatty, take him also to bed and rinse/repeat. It took me if I recall like 2 lullabies but it also depends on level/gear

                                            Preety ugly fight, for me that comet general was way harder though

                                            • Anonymous

                                              they introduced a bug last patch where the Noble doesn't end his roll attack when he hits you so this fight is like 10x harder than it should be rn

                                              • Anonymous

                                                If Bernahl's sign won't appear (I checked only the "hidden" Grace - Transept) just go talk to him in the Volcano Manor. I did assassinations in order, aka I didn't kill Rykard before Mountaintops target. Bernahl left his sword, so if is missing/won't appear for Godskin Duo, just go talk to the sword, (try to) buy something, even if you already bought everything, and the sign appears in Azula for Duo.

                                                • Anonymous

                                                  Ah yes my favorite boss fight, Pool Noodle and Phat Phuck, who just respawn after you first beat them forcing you to effectively fight four of them, great boss design.

                                                  • Anonymous

                                                    Basically, i just play support. Tiche and Bernard do the work while I throw sleep pots and keep Protection of the Erdtree, Blessing's Boon, and Golden Vow powered up. Can even use some Warming Stones if you're feeling fancy.

                                                    Get a fewBloudhound's Finesse hits in while everything's going on.

                                                    being cheap againt cheap bosses. No ragrets.

                                                    • Anonymous

                                                      an extremely fun fight if you think of it as a balancing act between keeping one Godskin slept at a time while fighting the other. My first

                                                      Unpopular opinion: this is a good fight, it's just there to make you rethink your strategy beyond brute-forcing. If you try to go at it head on, you're going to get messed up, but if you use consumables/status effects/ashes etc it gets a lot easier. I think a lot of people have this idea that using anything but R1s is cheating, and this fight is here to make people engage in the rest of the game's combat system.

                                                      • Watcher & Defender but somehow made worse. At least the duo from ds2 had a logic behind the resurrection. You knock out one, the other goes & helps his comrade. You kill both simultaneously \ before the resurrection is triggered - you win. Godskin duo on the other hand... You kill both and,,, its not even half of the shared hp bar. You are just left standing there waiting for the re-spawn, yawning. This combined with noble rolling bs move - that pillars don't even stop half of the time cause fromsoftware collision codding heh - makes up for a really shitty boss fight. Also... from the lore perspective... wtf they are even doing in that dragon shrine in the first place? -_- Just do yourself a favor & use them sleeping pots.

                                                        • Anonymous

                                                          The Godskins 1v1 aren't bad, but good god this fight is just pure unadulterated dogshit, sleep pots and rotten breath saved me a bunch of time that could've been wasted on this shitshow of a fight.

                                                          • Anonymous

                                                            None of the other characters even acknowledge the existence of the Godskins. My theory is that FromSoft was perfectly ready to cut out the Godskin fights from the final game. Just before that decision was made however, Tai Tomisawa comes up with this banger of an OST, leaving them no choice but to have these BS factories as a central pillar of the game, despite having no role in the story.

                                                            • Anonymous

                                                              This encounter went from rage-inducing frustration where I almost quit the game to "wait... it's over?" just by switching from sword and board to dual curved swords with bleed/frost and bloodhound step. Probably didn't even have to use a summon at all. Annoyed that the encounter is more about build than about learning the boss.

                                                              • Anonymous

                                                                Went in as a pure melee build. Sleep pots and Bernahl worked wonders. Toss a pot at the one Bernahl isn't fighting and let the Godskin Single meet the Tarnished Duo. Repeat as long as the fight lasts. Just make sure the guy stays in the sleep cloud long enough to actually fall asleep, and be careful where you swing if the two end up near each other again.

                                                                • Anonymous

                                                                  Man it's such a shame thinking about how good this fight could've been if they didn't resurrect and had a different moveset from the other versions of the apostle and noble. 2/10 boss

                                                                  • Anonymous

                                                                    This is the single worst boss in Fromsoft history. It's not even close. This was 1000% not playtested. I'd rather fight Bed of Chaos any day of the week.

                                                                    • Anonymous

                                                                      I just used Bolt of Gransax +9 and Mimic +9 and would swap to a +9 Rivers of Blood here/there to bleed one of them during an opening. Took two tries but only because my first attempt I was using Long Envoy Horn, and since they're quite resistant to strike and holy it didn't out too well. Not sure why there are so many warning to melee users... Compared to Astel 2 in the Snowfield mine this was a breeze.

                                                                      • Anonymous

                                                                        Why is this considered to be non-optional? I was able to sneak past them to the next site of grace. Also these guys are really easy, killed them first try.

                                                                        • Anonymous

                                                                          people are going to hate me for this, but these guys were a joke.
                                                                          first playthrough, max upgrade heavy pickaxe.
                                                                          no spirit summons (not a coward (no offence to people who do use them))
                                                                          like 4th attempt (and at least 1 of those attempts I had already used like half my flasks before hand) (even on the winning attempt I was down 1 flask)
                                                                          honestly I don't know if it was my build or just me clicking with the fight.
                                                                          ...still a really dumb boss though

                                                                          • Anonymous

                                                                            Guess i am one of 1% people who beated them on first try(with full crucible axe armor+ starcourge great sword +10 and mimic tear +10

                                                                            • Anonymous

                                                                              Founding Rain of the Stars is a pretty nice choice for AOE as an astrologer. You can generally hit them from behind the pillars. I did: start off with Rennala's Full Moon (they don't expect it to swallow their skull sorcery), try to hit the skinny one. Run behind pillars, hit them with Founding Rain of Stars, aiming for the skinny one. Once they're softened up a bit, call in a summon and finish one off. When there's just one left, do the usual Comet Azur cannon to pump as much DPS as you can.

                                                                              • To the dude that suggested Ancient Dragon's Lightning Strike and pillars, you are a Godsend.

                                                                                If anyone has played Wow arenas before, it's time for you to do some pillar humping; they can't reach you most of the time (although they will obliterate the pillars eventually).

                                                                                F this duo! Finally have the smithing stone bell bearing I need. It was glorious watching these two lose.

                                                                                • Anonymous

                                                                                  High intelligence, greatshield summon and meteorites of astel wrecked them for me with meteorite staff off hand and general magic talismans equipped. Just make sure to do it quick as they can melt the summon given enough time and stand not too far.

                                                                                  • Anonymous

                                                                                    Melee only approach is totally feasible especially if you're a pure STR build. I used a Fire-infused Greatsword at 66 STR and spammed tf out of the Lion's Claw AoW. Kill the skinny one first since he has less health and staggers more easily, and by the time the fat one resurrects him he'll be either be dead or damn near. Rinse and repeat. Stupid simple and cheesy strategy sure but it pretty much turns the fight into easy mode

                                                                                    • Ancient Dragon Lightning Strike works quite well against them, but you sort of have to abuse the pillars and be on the other side to get a full charge done.

                                                                                      • Anonymous

                                                                                        Bernahl melts their poise. Brought some sleep pots for emergencies, ended up using just for fun. It was a walk in the park, they were patched recently?

                                                                                        I love the option to have an NPC summon.

                                                                                        • Anonymous

                                                                                          I beat these guys with +10 mimic tear and +10 rivers of blood. The unlimited FP tear also works really well to use corpse piler on them. I also did this on my fifth try at about lvl 109. If not for this strategy it would have taken alot longer

                                                                                          • Anonymous

                                                                                            Marika's tits, me and my Mimic Tear both dual-wielding Reduvia and a Blood Bandit Knife made short work of these two (three...four...) Godskin dudes.

                                                                                            • Anonymous

                                                                                              So... Theoretically my cold +20 dismounter that has ~125 frost build-up would proc frostbite immediately. Correct?

                                                                                              • Anonymous

                                                                                                Dolores the sleep archer (+6) wasn't worth it as a summons, she put only one to sleep once just as she died. The sleep pots worked great, I made three of them but would have only needed two if the big one didn't walk too fast through it. Make an extra for sure just in case. Slash and bleed damage helped get them down fairly quickly, but you still have to dodge attacks and watch the arena. Tough fight either way due to a not very large space and the big one's rolling attack.

                                                                                                • Anonymous

                                                                                                  I think that Miyazaki was bullied by two people that looks like them when he was young. That's why we are suffering to...

                                                                                                  • Anonymous

                                                                                                    this is such a weird fight. I thought the fight was bugged when they were both dead at the same time, me and recusant bernahl just looking at each other in confusion because the boss's health bar was still half full.

                                                                                                    • Anonymous

                                                                                                      Seems like an unpopular opinion but I actually really enjoy this fight as long as I'm at least lvl 90. I'm not trying to be edgy or some ****, its a fun fight.
                                                                                                      It's a manageable fight where only one is generally agrroed onto you. So you get ones attention, split them up and just keep a lookout for the others fire bombs. Once you kill one the fight is just like any godskin fight up to this point, and on the off chance they resummon before you kill the other, just follow the previous strategy.
                                                                                                      If you're struggling with this fight, try to learn how to fight each godskin individually one on one without summons first. If you can dodge at least 90% of their moves you should be golden.
                                                                                                      Also if you want to use summons, thats fine too! Play the game how you want. I just believe if you spend a little time to learn their movesets fully, you should be able to manage this fight. You can do it.

                                                                                                      • Anonymous

                                                                                                        Focus only on the skinny one and save some pain. If you don't damage the heavy one, they never trigger the rolling attack we all hate so much. Fought them 3x where I hit the heavy one at least once and he rollie pollied in all 3, then once I fought and managed to never touch him, and he never started the rolly attack - I took them all the way to 10% health left and not one rollie pollie.

                                                                                                        • Anonymous

                                                                                                          Incantation Build Strat:

                                                                                                          Stone of Gurranq with a summon can cheese these guys quick. Enough chain casts will stagger either of the duo. If they are close, both will get hit and staggered for a critical hit. Since they have a very short cool down time and you're a caster, heal up, replenish your FP and then keep throwing stones. If you agro anything, focus your casting on that godskin. If both agro you, run away until you can get your summon to tank agro.

                                                                                                          • Anonymous

                                                                                                            if u have strong aoe attacks, use the shortcut entrance (not the one where u gotta go through the knights). and lure them into the side wall in between the pillars, they'll be grouped up nice and tight and u can hit them hard with any aoe attack and quickly duck behind a pillar, works very well if u also have a summon up. I got them on my first try when i did this (I ran a dragon incant build), melted them very very quickly and the fight was over in 70-90seconds (lvl 125)

                                                                                                            • Anonymous

                                                                                                              This fight would have honestly been better if there wasn’t 1000 other godskin apostles/nobles scattered throughout the lands between.

                                                                                                              • Anonymous

                                                                                                                I just beat these first time today - Lvl 107, STR build. No summons. I don't think I was over-leveled for the fight, but the important thing is to try and focus one at a time. I went for the noble first as he was nearer to me at the start of the fight and got him to his second phase; that made him more aggressive and chasing me whereas the other was still relatively passive. Then when it was 1 on 1 I got the apostle to his second phase just as the noble re-entered the fight, which meant he was more aggressive and the noble was passive. Then I continued that pattern until the end.

                                                                                                                The important thing to do is to use the pillars to block the rolling charge attack and to kite the duo when needed.

                                                                                                                • Anonymous

                                                                                                                  I will pay someone a EXTREME amount of money to create a time machine and tell miyazaki to never create a sh!tty open world game where you spend 75% of the time riding a horse like you are Arthur morgan. And instead just make demon souls 2 or, sekiro: the lightning of tomoe DLC. This foreskin duo is honestly making me lose my will to live.

                                                                                                                  • Anonymous

                                                                                                                    There is a current bug where when noble does the rolling attack, it will show him breaking out of it then attacking, then suddenly he is back in the roll. It happened like that twice and then he actually finished the roll.

                                                                                                                    • Anonymous

                                                                                                                      Harder than just about any boss to do at a low level — I’m talking maybe level 70, or 80. The kind of level you would be if you were rushing from the start to the end of the game ASAP. With other bosses like Mohg, Malenia, or lesser bosses like Morgott or Fire Giant, it’s a somewhat fair 1v1 where careful positioning and the right combination of tricky tactics like status effects can eke out a win. But the Godskin Duo are neither fair nor a 1v1. Even if you don’t make a mistake, you can lose because you walked in without the right gear: bleed, frostbite, sleep. It’s not much better of a fight at level 130-150 either. You don’t have to be a game design wizard to play Elden Ring and come away with the thought, “That was amazing, but seriously **** those foreskin dudes.”

                                                                                                                      • Anonymous

                                                                                                                        Beat them by overloading them with Bernahl + Mimic Tear. Use Golden Vow to give them a boost, hide behind the pillars and, if you have it, spam the hell out of rotten breath; does a LOT of damage as well as, like, 50hp every second for a minute or something.

                                                                                                                        • Anonymous

                                                                                                                          did this first try with +10 scarscourge greatsword and a +10 tiche , level 123 though as I'd neglected most of the game for the sake of side stuff

                                                                                                                          • Anonymous

                                                                                                                            As a sorcerer/incantation hybrid I only used Ancient Death Rancor. Use a broken pillar to stand behind and cast the spell. When they are far away charge the spell, if they are closer just spam it faster and roll/run away again. Do this and watch their health bar melt away! Didn't need any summon

                                                                                                                            • Anonymous

                                                                                                                              Hard or not this fight is just terribly designed. Bad gank bosses are a pattern in this game.
                                                                                                                              Fights like O&S, Ringed City Demons and Friede/Ariandel work because the bosses complement each other. Ornstein pursues you while also having rather slow and exploitable combos while Smough walks at a lumbering place and only has one gap closer that can be blocked by the pillars. The burned out demon will keep a distance and used highly telegraphed ranged attacks, as will Friede.

                                                                                                                              This is just a ****ing spamfest that places two highly aggressive bosses of similar speed in the same arena. It's only "balanced" around mechanics like summons and sleep basically making it a case of cheese or be cheesed. It's not that this fight can't be dealt with, quite easily even with the use of sleep spam, it's that the fight is terribly designed and boring. Either you put one to sleep which basically nullifies the entire challenge or you retreat constantly waiting for an opportunity to get a single attack in before it's back to running away. Manageable, sure, but also boring as all ****. Using the arena to control them is possible, but only up to a point; once all the pillars are broken all ranged attacks as well as the fatty's roll will simply go over them, meaning there's no point in trying to kite one since the other will just chase you or spam ranged attacks that you no longer have any cover from.

                                                                                                                              Git gud isn't an argument. Nobody cares if you beat it on your first try by spamming sleep and bleed, window licker.

                                                                                                                              • Anonymous

                                                                                                                                This can't be called duo, that health bar packs like 5 different godskins. I was thinking ok is not that hard until those mofos started summoning

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