Godslayer's Seal | Elden Ring Wiki

besides golden order seal, i think this might be the best seal for a 50 fth build if you want to keep your levels down, erdtree seal for some reason falls off in scaling for some reason (258 vs 274)

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Such a wasted opportunity to have this scale with dex when all the godskin weapons scale with dexterity. I wish faith/dex had a good seal.

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i wonder why the godslayer seal is hidden in stormveil castle. there's no godskin apostle unlike in Caelid where a monk and an apostle guards the godslayer greatsword. can someone give a lore around this?

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for my hybrid Int/Fth friends: please note this seal is likely inferior to your Golden Order seal. i did the maths, and whether you're at Int/Fth levels of 60/60, 50/50, or even 31/50 (for Radagon's Rings of Light & Elden Stars)...you'll get +21-34% higher scaling with Golden Order, which obviously trumps this seal's +10% to Godslayer spells.

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Black Flame seems great for killing big scary things at low levels. As it scales with their hp, it is always doing serious damage. "God-slaying" magic seems fair. The more powerful they are, the more damage it does!

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what's the point of strength scaling when the godslayer weapons do better with dex?

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"despite outperforming the Finger Seal at 60 Faith, the Finger Seal will do better at most Faith levels lower than 60"
this is flat out misinformation. at quite literally every faith level from the minimum 27 onwards the godslayer seal outperforms the finger seal in terms of spellbuff, and remains the highest spellbuff seal until exactly 69 faith (nice) at which point the erdtree seal overtakes it. someone should probably remove this little line from the wiki or something.

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I think the strength scaling on this talisman is bugged. at 60 faith, 20str. The scaling does not increase even by a single point as I increase strength from 20-60. If it were not broken, even with a low D scaling in Strength, you would see at least some numbers change. Faith continues to increase scaling all the way to 80 as you’d expect, but Str, even going from 20-60, not even by a single point. So this is either a bug, or an oversight. It should be Faith only scaling, and frankly it should be slightly higher. I hope it’s fixed and made a Dex Faith scaling Seal because we already have the Clawmark Seal which is Str Faith. A dex faith would fill a void at least.

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Does this buff black flame damage or just the initial hits on the incants that have them?

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if any of you get into music please for the love of god name your band godslayer incantations

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what's the point of the strength requirement when no starting class hasless than 4 strength? debuffs?

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If you use 2 of these at the same time and only use blackflame spells, it ever so slightly outperforms using Erdtree in your casting hand, otherwise if you use other damage spells use Erdtree casting hand.

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This thing with black flame spells (obviously) and the godslayer great sword on a faith dex build is still one of my favorite setups and one that continues to work for me further and further into the Ng plusses

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The only useful spell is Black Flame at least for PVE. I really tried to make it work, all other spells are just not worth using. Also ghost flame looks exactly the same while doing different things, why? Gargoyles black blade's weapon art for some reason burns with what seem to look like black flame while having black blade effects and does holy damage, why? Even devs dont care.

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The note about the finger seal is just completely and utterly false. At 30 faith my +5 finger seal has about the same scaling as my +0 godslayer seal.

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Note: the note is wrong. Once you reach enough faith to use the Godslayer seal I haven't found any Faith or upgrade where the finger seal out performs it. Top pure faith seal early game and gets outperformed near Late game by the erdtree seal. Only by about 20-30 inc scaling.

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Does this affect the Godslayer UGS?

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Am i the only one who's strangely bothered that this thing has a yellow glow? feels like it really shouldn't...

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Was about to say it should glow black when held, before realising how stupid that sounds.

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Gravel seal just has better spells that makes it worth using over this at 60 FTH, even with 10 less spell buff.

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I'm plugging stats into a calculator, so maybe it's inaccurate, but it looks to me like this'll actually always get better spell adjust than the finger seal, with the only reason to use the finger seal over this being if you don't have the 27 faith needed to use this seal yet.

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I haven't upgraded every sacred seal I have, the frenzied flame seal is +9 because I didn't want to waste a dragon stone on something that wont work for me after I use Miquella's needle to remove the three fingers influence. I have the golden order seal +10 and this seal at +25.
Assuming I haven't misunderstood the upgrade table on this page, the godslayer's seal fully upgraded at 80 FTH is showing incant scaling of 327 for me.

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Get seal early in the game requires 27 faith, all other seals that are arguably better require less...Miyazaki really wanted people to use magic over faith.

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The difference between this and the finger seal is completely negligible unless you rely on black flame incantations

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"The Godslayer Incantations are amongst the best in a Fth build's arsenal. The scaling is good and the damage boost is fantastic for how hard those spells can hit. Sure there's seals that scale better, but they're either way later in the game, require a massive stat investment or just boost incantations that aren't all that good. If it's vulnerable to fire, Black Flame alone rarely steers you wrong."

Opinion based, misleading, and in a casual tone unfit for the point it is trying to make. (e.g. stating something similar to this as advice for a boss could be acceptable, but as it is attempting to state something objective about an item, it is unacceptable, even if it was inarguably true.) Should absolutely be removed.

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Summarizing what this thing boosts in 10 words or less:

Fire but black. Also kills gods.

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"The Godslayer Incantations are amongst the best in a Fth build's arsenal", yeah, and good luck with any mob resistant to fire. I f you want a serious fire incantation from the beginning, grab flames of frenzy. Tons of aoe damage, tons of poise damage and it requires less FP to cast. Even with the small % of damage black flame deals (which ironically, is the only viable godslayer spell) it cannot hold its own against FoF cast with its seal or dragon seal at high arcane.

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Anyone else wish that the glow around the seal was like frenzied or dragon communion seal, except black flame? The standard yellow glow of the seal just doesn't fit the themes behind godlslayer spells and the godskin apostles.

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"The Godslayer Incantations are amongst the best in a Fth build's arsenal. The scaling is good and the damage boost is fantastic for how hard those spells can hit. Sure there's seals that scale better, but they're either way later in the game, require a massive stat investment or just boost incantations that aren't all that good. If it's vulnerable to fire, Black Flame alone rarely steers you wrong."

I agree, however the phrasing could use some work, especially the part that starts with" sure... ". Also the" boost incantations that aren't all that good" is subjective and should be removed.

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Anyone know if this also buffs Black Flame Protection?

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Does this buff the damage I put on my sword with Blackflame Blade?

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what does inc stand for?

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Does anyone else think this looks like the Millennium Falcon??

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The Godslaying Incantations are amongst the best in a Fth build's arsenal. The scaling is good and the damage boost is fantastic for how hard those spells can hit.

Sure there's seals that scale better, but they're either way later in the game, require a massive stat investment or just boost incantations that aren't all that good. If it's vulnerable to fire, Black Flame alone rarely steers you wrong.

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at 18 str 40 dex 21 int 42 Fai 16 arc, there seem to be a few other seals with higher scaling values, but it seems this seal consistently has the highest bonus damage on weapon buff incants (bloodflame, electrify arm, ESPECIALLY black flame blade ofc). not sure why the scaling is showing so much lower than it really seems to be, but worth noting

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How did this end up in a chest, next to a prayer book, behind a locked door, inside stormveil castle, above the pit with the giant corpse?

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It doesn’t effect the percentage that the black flame attacks do just the base damage

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I find it Ironic that the 'Godslayer' seal is the second-best pure faith seal, what do you have faith in, if you're slaying all gods?

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So is the scaling based on 27 faith or with min req and 80 faith because if so those numbers are wrong.

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does it not affect noble presence?

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does it not affect noble presence?

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I’m using black flame incants for my dex/faith build, is it worth to use this over gravel seal?

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So how does this affect Black Flame Blade? Just a 10% dmg increase over the fire dmg? Does it affect the DoT too?

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Incant scaling is completely wrong the person who put these stats didn’t use base stats but his own based on his leveling

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Seems to have the highest spell buff at 30 faith, which is the bare minimum to use every single sorcery. Haven't tested IRL yet but this seems to be the answer if you are looking to mix some lesser incantations with sorcery.

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Godslayer seal + black flame incants or Giants seal + Giants flame incants? Any opinions?

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The Godslayer seal does NOT boost Blackflame's Protection. I just compared the numbers between Godslayer ,Gravelstone, and Clawmark Seals. They are exactly the same.

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My numbers for incantation scaling don't match this. Did this item get balanced?

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In the room there is not seal, why?

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Balanced arcane/faith with dragon communion seal deals more damage than pure faith with this using godslayer incantations. Very disappointing. This needs a drastic spellbuff, it has the worst spells so it would be appropriate to have at least a 20%

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It says the Incant scaling from +15 to +16 is 159 to 232 but at +16 mine is still around 170 or so. Can anybody explain?

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How are we seeing that high incant scaling? My godslayer seal is only 60 scaling. Is it because I have too low of faith (22 atm)?

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+15 incant scaling should be 159

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Petition to make this glow black and white as opposed to yellow.

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Does this also help boost the godslayer greatsword?

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the two chests are already opened but I can't find the selain my inventory, wtf

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I tested this and the damage increase to the Godslayer’s incantations is 10%.

Also, the guy below me is incorrect. The Godslayer’s seal (GSS) will always do more damage when casting Godslayer’s incantations. When casting them on the GSS at 80 faith the scaling is 362 vs the Erdtree at 353. This also applies to the stacking dual wield buff.

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I tested this and the damage increase to the Godslayer’s incantations is 10%.

Also, the guy below me is incorrect. The Godslayer’s seal (GSS) will always do more damage when casting Godslayer’s incantations. When casting them on the GSS at 80 faith the scaling is 362 vs the Erdtree at 353. This also applies to the stacking dual wield buff.

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I tested this and the damage increase to the Godslayer’s incantations is 10%.

Also, the guy below me is incorrect. The Godslayer’s seal (GSS) will always do more damage when casting Godslayer’s incantations. When casting them on the GSS at 80 faith the scaling is 362 vs the Erdtree at 353. This also applies to the stacking dual wield buff.

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Wanted to test this myself to see if Godslayer's Seal, Finger Seal or Erdtree Seal were better than the others for generalist use of mixing different incantation schools. Hope to help people reach a conclusion. Going to be posting this on their respective pages for visibility.

Testing at different levels of Faith show that, upon being upgraded equally with the same Faith (for the most part), Godslayer's Seal is just every so slightly better than Finger Seal by a few points on Incantation scaling (286 vs 291 at +25 for both, 60 faith). The difference is smaller at lower levels of upgrades (like 1 point of scaling difference at +0) but Godslayer's is better by that tiny margin and has the Godslayer damage boost for every level of upgrade and faith.

Erdtree Seal only beats out Godslayer's at 69 faith (hehe funny number) by 1 point at +25 for both once again, and goes up to a 24 difference at 80 faith (329 vs 353). You also have to consider Godslayer's boost as well. After testing at basically every faith level from 69 to 99, Black Flame incantations do more at every level, but the difference is incredibly tiny to where if you're at that high level of Faith, it's not gonna matter, especially since you'd be using it to mix schools anyway. Sidepnote: the scaling difference between Erdtree and Godslayer's is less at 99 (12 point difference), which is extremely weird but shouldn't really matter unless you really, really want to max out your faith past the soft-cap.

Or you can just equip Godslayer's in your off-hand for the boost lmao

In conclusion, Godslayer's is just plain better than Finger Seal whenever you can equip it. Why this balance is like this, I have no clue.
Erdtree Seal is better than Godslayer's at high faith (>=69), and gets much stronger up to 80.

Godslayer for low to medium Faith, Erdtree for very high Faith for generalist incantation users.

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Does anybody know if the bonus applies to the Godskin peeler weapon art?

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Does this boost Noble Presence?

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Obviously there's no such huge gap between 15 and 16 level like mentioned above.

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The second location on this in leyndell gave me a gravel stone seal not godkiller

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i have a 30 str 30 faith build
ive been trying to found which one scale better?
but i find the beast one simply do more damage even with black flame
what does boost godslayer mean?by how much?
or am i going to need 60 faith to see a difference?

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If you can get 2 Godslayers somehow, the damages DOES stack. You have one equipped and the other one you use. Black flame melts bosses with this setup. Not sure if it's intended

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This thing is not buffing black flame blade...

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It's not there for me

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The upgrades per tier are wrong. At least some of them. I mean, I have 34 Str and 40 Faith - and my +17 Godslayers only has 197 in incant scaling. Here it is listed as 237 somehow at 27 faith.

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Any reason to upgrade this past 14? Anyone know if the strength scaling goes up again?

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Clawmark seal scales off strength

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Can I still use this if I don't have the faith requirements? 27 is pretty steep

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Small correction in the location description, it's four rats, not three.

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I think either this or the clawmark seal is bugged. At 30 faith and 28 str I do more damage with the clawmark seal +3 than the godslayers +3, even with the black flame spell. E and B scaling should be better than D and D. Even if it's not, then the black flame shoud be doing more on the Godslayer's at the very least. Doesn't make any sense to me. Sucks because I use black flame and I want to use this seal, but it's just not good for whatever reason. Maybe at higher levels of faith and at higher + levels it gets better?

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I think either this or the clawmark seal is bugged. At 30 faith and 28 str I do more damage with the clawmark seal +3 than the godslayers +3, even with the black flame spell. E and B (godslayer) scaling should be better than D and D (clawmark). Even if it's not, then the black flame should be doing more on the Godslayer's at the very least, especially when you factor in the 27 faith requirement just to use it. Doesn't make sense to me, because I really want to use this seal, but it's just not good somehow.

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The Incantation scaling mentioned here is weird. I tried to edit it but it doesn't make sense to me so I left it how it is.

At +10 it showed me INC 178
At +15 INC 196
At +20 INC 257
At +24 INC 276

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does this boost red lighting or is there curently no seals that boost this ancient dragon cult magic type?

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its actually 4 rats u ape

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Am I the only one who finds it ironic that the "godkiller" seal scales with faith

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Black flame charged does ridiculous damage. More than lightning to almost everything! Use black flame on the dragon stuck on ground watch it melt. The burn is relative to an enemies total health. Do with that what you will

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Is it better than clawmark seal?

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godslayer spells are black flame, but they suck compared to lightning spear and stuff.

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What are godslayer incantations? Most similar i have is godskin.

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Lightning spears count as godslayer?

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This thing has some strange scaling.

At +0 it had low 60 inc scaling, much lower than two finger

At +6 it has a couple more points than two finger +6, making it better for normal incants and MUCH better for black flame. Very strange.

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So is this potentially better than Finger Seal?

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I could be wrong, but I have the Finger Seal @ +12 and the Godslayer's Seal @ +12, and you'd think that the "base"/non-specific Seal would have a higher incant scaling, but it turns out the Godslayer's is higher despite the fact that it gives a boost to a specific type. Right now the Finger Seal is 179 while the Godslayer's is 181. Using Lightning Spear, my damage with Godslayer is like 717 while Finger is 707.

Just something that to me seems weird, but just a heads up. I haven't compared to any other seal though, but at least right now, it seems like even if you just want a general purpose seal (and not specifically godslayer magic), Godslayer's > Finger.

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what are god slayer spells?

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Testing at +3, it seems like the dmg boost from using Godslayer incantations is ~8%

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I upgraded this weapon to +5 but Black Flame damage doesnt change even a bit. Why?

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i upgraded it to +5 and even if it scales B from faith, damage is not changed! is it bug or something?

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If youre first entering the area, Its directly to the left. But if youre not, go from the lost grace, across the courtyard and to the right. There's stairs that go below leading to 4 rats.

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There is no staircase leading underground, someone please explain

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The room before it is guarded by 4 rats.

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It’s not a stairway, it’s a series of platforms.
There is a giant rat after the 3 rats.
There is an earth dragon after the giant rat.

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