Great Rune of the Unborn | Elden Ring Wiki

Looks kinda cute

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This is the most powerful of all the great runes.

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The fact this is the smallest rune is kinda cute

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strongly suspect radagan was 'reborn' at some point, leading to his change of heart re: war and marriage to rennala

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Literal, un desperdicio, mientras que el premio por derrotar a Godrick el injertado es +5 en todo, esta solo te permite cambiar atributos (opcion que viene por defecto en el NPC Renala luego de ser derrotada) que encima aun consume Lagrima larvaria , si es que ademas NO se puede colocar como runa mayor.... malisimo, se esperaria que diera +10 de inteligencia y +10 de mente pero no.

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so I guess reading this is what is supposed to clue you in on what awaits Boc if one sends him off to get reborn

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so i need to mixed it with larval tear and offer it some where i suppose the two questions that i have are : is it going to be experiered once i used it ? and is the effect of this great rune means that i am going to be able to start levling up from 0 runes ? thanks in advance :)

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how does Renalla have a Great Rune if she doesn't worship the Greater Will/Elden God? since she clearly worship the Stars & Moon instead. Aren't Great Runes fragments' of Elden Ring?

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Even the long line is shaped similarly to one of Miquella's needles, on top of all the other aspects of the design that leans toward him. (Smaller than Malenia's, pure gold color, title being 'unborn'.)

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Thank goodness. I was worried the game was bugged, since I could not equip it at all. I honestly thought it was gone. =)

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Marika used this rune to create Radagon

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"Perfects those who have been born anew.
Children born anew by Rennala are all frail and short-lived.
Imperfect beings, each and all"

So why does Rennala practice rebirth if she practically sux with it? Literally she can't even nail one single rebirth. She keeps the Rune for herself, rather than giving to those who undergo rebirth, and then reacquiring it back in order to keep lending it to others who require it?
Basically, she's just scamming people, giving no warranty or any customer returns, scamazz lol.

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Wow. I just realized the lore significance of this rune. Radagon gave Rennala the egg containing this rune BEFORE The Shattering. The rune of the unborn was removed from the Elden Ring at some point and hidden within the amber egg. If this rune is meant to embody the law/concept of rebirth in the lands between, its removal may have been the catalyst that triggered the shattering. Much like when the rune of death was removed from the Elden Ring so no one could die, removing the rune of the unborn may have completely screwed up Erdtree Burial and the ability to be reborn from the Erdtree in time after returning to its roots.

The question is why, and whether Radagon was acting independently of Marika or if they are truly the same being, or two souls sharing the same body, much like D and his brother, but the opposite scenario.

Perhaps this is what ulcerated tree spirits are; the rejected masses of those absorbed by the Erdtree's roots, but unable to be reborn.

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Rennala technically doesn't give you a Great Rune when you defeat her: this doesn't need to be activated, can't be equipped, and only serves to enable a function YOU ONLY GAIN ACCESS TO BY BEATING HER! It's like a boss giving you a key to a locked door that's only accessible by passing through their boss room.

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this rune infact DOESN'T give you access to respec, you gain access after defeating rennala. Normally you wouldn't know this but if you edited her boss drop to not be the great rune, you'll still get the respec option

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For those saying this is useless lore, it is used in Boc's progression, as he can be given a tear for rebirth, but doesn't have the protection. Plus, from a simple story telling perspective, saying there are limitations / dangers on this thing makes sense, so we don't ask why it isn't done all the time by everyone. Lore scientists will surely have a lot more to add about its validity, but even at first glance it's not that weird.

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Dead bodies do not inherit Great Runes, geniuses.

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I can't equip it and it doesn't say which tower it goes to. The description is also kind of useless. What is this for?

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Reminds me of my hen hugging her egg all day and night, may it hatch

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I actually do think it's highly likely that this was intended to be Miquella's Great Rune (even diegetically speaking), but had been given to Rennala prematurely by Radagon.

For one, it matches Malenia's Great Rune, except that it is markedly smaller and pure gold. This would plainly reflect the contrast between Malenia's rot and Miquella's eternal youth, as well as his breed of unalloyed gold. (The vertical lines in each rune even appear to resemble Miquella's needle.)

Second, we know that Miquella was attempting to rebirth himself into godhood using the Haligtree as a womb, but was unable to, either because Mohg abducted him, or because he lacked the Great Rune to achieve this without destroying his mind, much like the children of rebirth. Also similarly, Miquella's connection to St. Trina and sleep relates to how rebirth is described as a "deep sleep," which drains the scholars' memory with each attempt.

The confusing part is how Radagon gave this rune to Rennala upon leaving her, since that implies Miquella had yet to be conceived, and the Elden Ring had not yet been shattered. Although, it's possible that the Great Runes are not "separated" from the Elden Ring, but rather they're echoes of its power, similarly to the Rune Arcs representing its lower basin. Besides, even if you've only acquired two Great Runes and Morgott's, the full Elden Ring still appears within Radagon's chest.

Taking into account the story's focus on fate, and how Radagon seemingly only married Rennala to ensure the fate of the Golden Order was fulfilled through Ranni's betrayal, perhaps Radagon knew Miquella would have been too powerful even before he was born, and prevented him from achieving the rite of rebirth by leaving his predestined Great Rune with Rennala, since she would guard it with her life.

Elden Ring's lore reads like a complicated game of chess to me, so I wouldn't be surprised if Marika and Radagon were subtly pulling everyone's strings even well before they're born. Besides, they're no strangers to causality. The only thing that feels underexplored to me is... if it really is Miquella's Great Rune, I feel like there should have been a way to give it back to him after defeating Mohg? But that would probably be too ambitious.

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Of all things, I didn't expect people to be so upset over a great rune lacking good lore. Is this just how the soulsbourne community is? 'cause if so, I want no part in it.

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Basically a lore rune to create an illusion of some deep intricate web of lore. Which is just a sloppy way to make an excuse of why you're not made into an albaneric. It's weak "Well I can't rebirth people cause you need this special rune which I had in my possession the whole time so I can respec you." This literally adds nothing to the narrative, it's so bad it can't even be considered a plot device. Though fromsoft doesn't even have to try, the fans have deluded themselves so hard that from could put in a pointless ring with the text. "Belonged to a unnamed queen." And these people would force in any explanation and anyone that questions the logic gets a response "omg it's significant you just don't pay attention to the narrative!" George RR Martin straining to take a **** is more relevant to the story than this thing.

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The egg's name could be Hermes

Source: Cut Content

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This is actually supposed to be Miquella's Great Rune, or at least a shadow of it. It's to do with birth and creating new things, it's in an egg, and it's shape is the same as Malenia's. All other demigods who share parentage have the same Great Rune shape: see Rykard and Radahn, also Morgott and Mohg. All things pointing to this being Miquella's Great Rune.

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Literally, all but one of the runes is worthless. Don't tell me that this rune serves the function of enriching the lore. This doesn't even allow us to speculate anything. I would call it grasping at straws, at best.

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I was able to respec without this rune "activated"

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My interpretation is that Rennala had a miscarriage right before Radagon had to return to the capital. He then handed her the amber egg with this rune as an attempt to fix the damage that had been done. You also find his red wolf protecting her, so I think he still cared about her at that point. It's pretty grim, but I think it explains Rennala's mental state when you find her. Also explains why the game is so subdued about it, feels uncomfortable expressing it so directly.

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It's Rennala's fault Boc is dead

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yea yea lore shmore why couldn't i give this to boc

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This isn’t Ranni’s rune, it’s the Great Rune of Radagon and Rennala’s fourth child, who was miscarried. “Great Rune of the Unborn” can’t really apply to someone who was born (Ranni), can ir?

Rennala isn’t trying to rebirth Ranni, she’s trying to rebirth the child that she lost. That’s why she’s mentally broken, not just because Radagon left her, but because he did so just after they lost a child.

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Malenia's remembrance:
Miquella and Malenia are both the children of a single god. As such they are both "Empyreans"

Amber Egg:
Great Rune of unborn "Demigods"

I supposed it's not the product of Marika/Radagon parthenogenesis, but of Rennala and Radagon the last time they together.

Unknown if it's living/progressing (based on how it's mother care for it, probably still). Will be so cool to see if it can hatch into demigod(s).

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I believe in twin theories, and the egg actually Ranni's twin who is supposed to be the human but it's Unborn, and that left Ranni as the Empyrian one.

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I feel this may actually be Miquella's rune, as you can super impose it with Malenia's (this also makes me think Radahn and Rykard are twins -- like Miquella and Malenia, and Mogh and Morgott).
What we know of Miquella's existence is that he is forever young, and his existence inside of a cocoon. Is it a huge leap to think that this could be interpreted as some sort of duality of being 'unborn', and that his 'power/curse' could really be related to rebirth.
I know this is wild speculation, but it seems to have a logic to it.

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We should have gotten a Great Rune that's Magic Oriented and Compliments INT and Spellcasting Sorcery Builds:

Rennala was a brilliant young Astrologer prodigy, possibly the most powerful Sorcerer that ever lived, Leader and Champion of the grand Raya Lucaria Academy - and Queen of the Full Moon!
Rennala's Great Rune could have given us one or mix of the following Buffs to Compliment INT and Spellcasting Builds:
1) Greatly Boost Focus Points FP.
2) Boost INT MIND and END.
3) Gradually Regenerate FP Over Time.
4) Restore FP Upon Defeating Enemies - FP Regen on Kills.
5) Boost Spellcasting Speed & Reduce Spell Costs.
6) Adds Memory Slots Beyond Maximum.
I hope one day we get a Rune that does some of the above.

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I really wish this Rune was Sorcery INT and FP Oriented. And make Respec option after defeating Rennela anyways:
Massive FP Boost
FP Restore upon Defeating Enemies
Boost to INT MIND END
Sorcery Damage & Speed Boost
More Memory Slots
Just some different exmaples (of ways this Rune could've benefited Sorcerers / Mages / Wizards and fit with the Lore, Rennela Queen of the Full Moon and Master Astrologer.
I feel like Massive Boost to FP + FP Regeneration on Kills would have be PERFECT!

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So basically the amber egg is an aborted/stillborn demigod fetus from Marika/Radagon. Jesus Miyazaki I thought ur fixation of dead fetus is satiated in bloodborne

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I'm still very disappointed and kinda pissed we didn't get a Sorcery Spell Casting Related Rune. Sure we can use Rykard or Godrick for this to an extent. But this is Queen Rennela of the Full Moon - a brilliant prodigy of the Stars and Glintstone Sorceries turned Champion and Queen, that held back the Army of Marika and Radagon, and eventually conquered Radagon's Love - with him becoming her Consort.
We could've gotten a INT MIND Sorcery related Rune: massive increase to FP, FP Regeneration, Cheaper Spells, Faster Casting, Higher Sorcery Damage, mpre Memory Slots, etc...
Such a missed

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It is very unlikely that the Unborn Great Rune is Ranni's. Miriel specifically states that Radagon bequeathed the amber egg to Rennala. The description directly states the rune is the amber egg. And Rennala was driven mad by her obsession with reincarnating Ranni using its power. It's suggested that Ranni herself made arrangements to have her confined to the Great Library, with Rennala's scholars acting as a first line of defense and Ranni's spell acting as the second. This further suggests that Ranni kept her confined because of Rennala's desire to reincarnate her, which she couldn't risk happening if she were to keep herself free from the influence of the Fingers and Greater Will.

There's no clear indication as to what Ranni did with her great rune. Personally, I think it has something to do with Melina and the ice witch (suggested to be Renna, who her doll is modeled after). Also, I think the Three Sisters subregion refers to their witch sisterhood rather than biological connection. But we only see Renna, Ranni, and Selevus' Rise. Selevus is clearly not the third sister and likely the puppet of Pidia. So, why call it Three Sisters? It seems to fit that Melina, with her direct and indirect connections, is the third sister. Further, it's stated Torrent's former master (Melina), entrusted Ranni with the Spirit Calling Bell to eventually give to the Tarnished player. It's reasonable to think, at the very least, Ranni and Melina were working together because of their overlapping goals. Ranni seems to serve the Outer God of the Dark Moon while Melina seems to serve the Outer God of the Death Birds (Destined Death). This, to me, along with the Frenzied Flame ending, directly connects Melina to being the Dusk/Gloam-eyed Queen.

It's a stretch, but it could be that Ranni is the Dusk-eyed Queen and Melina is the Gloam-eyed Queen. Twilight comes just before the dark, and dark is connected to both death and the moon.

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poor boc :(

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Some observations I made:
The Elden Ring logo is indeed all the great runes put together - Morgott/Mohg's rune is the top circle, the centre circle is Godrick (the golden lineage)'s, Rykard/Radahn's rune is the circle to the right (the line extends the centre line from Morgott/Mohg's), Malenia's is the circle to the left. The arc to the top could possibly be represented by rune arcs themselves.
It's inferrable from Morgott/Mohg's great runes (which have similar structures) that demigods born of the same parentage must have similar shaped great runes.
This clicks - Rykard and Radahn's runes both have the line to the left. This leaves the unborn rune as a bit of an outlier. But remember this? That amber egg was presented to Rennala by Radagon himself. Unlike Ranni/Rykard/Radahn who were born of Rennala and Radagon, the egg is probably solely Radagon's involvement.
The unborn great rune has its line to the right... Much like Malenia's. And we know that (SPOILERS) Radagon and Marika are one in the same, and Malenia and Miquella are children of this single god entity. I believe the unborn great rune represents another one of the Radagon/Marika children technically born of a single god. This probably is why it was never fully born - it's implied Marika/Radagon's children all have defects (maybe they were unfinished in a way due to being born of a single entity).. Miquella is forever young, Malenia has the rot. This unborn child's defect was that it was never born. IMO.

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Some observations I made:
The Elden Ring logo is indeed all the great runes put together - Morgott/Mohg's rune is the top circle, the centre circle is Godrick (the golden lineage)'s, Rykard/Radahn's rune is the circle to the right (the line extends the centre line from Morgott/Mohg's), Malenia's is the circle to the left. The arc to the top could possibly be represented by rune arcs themselves.
It's inferrable from Morgott/Mohg's great runes (which have similar structures) that demigods born of the same parentage must have similar shaped great runes.
This clicks - Rykard and Radahn's runes both have the line to the left. This leaves the unborn rune as a bit of an outlier. But remember this? That amber egg was presented to Rennala by Radagon himself. Unlike Ranni/Rykard/Radahn who were born of Rennala and Radagon, the egg is probably solely Radagon's involvement.
The unborn great rune has its line to the right... Much like Malenia's. And we know that (SPOILERS) Radagon and Marika are one in the same, and Malenia and Miquella are children of this single god entity. I believe the unborn great rune represents another one of the Radagon/Marika children technically born of a single god. This probably is why it was never fully born - it's implied Marika/Radagon's children all have defects (maybe they were unfinished in a way due to being born of a single entity).. Miquella is forever young, Malenia has the rot. This unborn child's defect was that it was never born. IMO.

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Ohhh. I was wondering why respeccing wasn't a terrible idea like all the lore suggests. Guess its this rune that lets us survive the process.

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Ohhh. I was wondering why respeccing wasn't a terrible idea like all the lore suggests. Guess its this rune that lets us survive the process.

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Yes

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This doesn't seem to count toward the 2 runes required to access Leyndell? Anyone else confirm this?

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Imagine if they let you respec without this and it just deleted your save.

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was this rune Ranni's rune? as Ranni should have one but appears not to.

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Story wise the purpose of this rune is basically to let you rebirth over and over without becoming a stunted child like all of the students in her fight.
Of course you're limited to the number of larval tears but in dark souls 3 you could only do it 5 times because of the limitation of the process.

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I didn't get her loots because of a bug, but I can still rebirth. This rune does not give you access to Rebirth.

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The answer you're looking for:

The Great Rune of the Unborn will already be activated once you receive it, which means that you don’t need to do anything with it to unlock its power. There is a Divine Tower in Liurnia of the Lakes, but that area is a dungeon in and of itself, and has nothing to do with activating the Great Rune you just got your hands on.

Instead, what it does is unlock the ability for you to respec your character entirely when you’re speaking with Rennala at the Grand Library of Raya Lucaria. Once you have a Larval Tear and the Great Rune of the Unborn in your possession, you’ll be able to respec your character and completely redo your build.

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The rune is already active, it makes it where you can rebirth that’s it.

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i already defeat her but i didn't get the great rune... any idea?

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At the east-southeast there are two tower connected by a bridge, te first tower is guarded by an invader NPC, that tower asks for some kind of artifact, probably after you do that you can get the useful Great rune of the Unborn... or at least that's what I think 'cause I still haven't found the artifact.

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I got the Great Rune(Restore the power of a great rune) achievement after defeating Rennala, so I guess its already considered as powered when you get it. Seems like its needed for Rennalas rebirth to work flawlessly, lore wise

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I think it’s just active immediately, it’s just the thing that lets you talk to her and rebirth

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STORY SPOILER ALERT:

Since this is Ranni's rune, not Rennala's, it cannot be activated in a similar manner as Godrick's or Radahn's. Ranni cast aside her Great Rune in order to be reborn. At the top of the Divine Tower of Liurnia is Ranni's corpse, and it does not allow you to activate the great rune.

END OF STORY SPOILERS

Due to the flavor text that accompanies this rune, I believe the rebirth process would not be possible without it. It reads, "Perfects those who have been born anew. Children born anew by Rennala are all frail and short-lived. Imperfect beings, each and all.", implying that without this rune, we would not have the ability to rebirth.

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Pretty sure the great rune has nothing to do with activating the ability to respec your character. The NPC for it doesn't exist until after you beat her and she takes a different item as curency for respecs. Requiring the rune for that wouldn't make any sense as that would be redundant.

How about someone make it to the great tower connected to Study Hall and see if they can restore the great rune and equip it, instead of jumping to conclusions.

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Getting to the Divine Tower of Liurnia did not activate the rune like I thought it would. I'm not sure where to activate this one or if its even possible to equip it at this point. For anyone wondering getting to the Tower requires following Ranni's quest.

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I've killed her and I don't have the rune

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Seems like it's active immediately.

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after defeating her, you’ll see that you now have an option to either be reborn or change your character’s cosmetics. Being reborn is the kicker, as it lets you redo all of your stats, just like you could in the Dark Souls games. However, in order to do so, you’ll need a Larval Tear. Changing the look of your character via cosmetics is free, however.

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Died while killing her; it appears that the Great Rune doesn't drop if this happens.

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anyone know what this one actually does beyond the flavor text?

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What does this do?

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Where do I take this tune after I’ve defeated rennala?

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what does the "perfect" rebirth mean, does it mean you can alter your base stats??

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You need this in order to respec. Obtained after killing the second main boss.

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Bro you're awesome

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Does anyone know what this does?

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How to activate?

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Just got mine. Wonder if it’s the obvious spot I think the tower is in?

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