Grossmesser

Grossmesser

Attack Phy 115 Mag 0 Fire 0 Ligt 0 Holy 0 Crit 100	Guard Phy 46 Mag 34 Fire 34 Ligt 34 Holy 34 Boost 28
Scaling Str D Dex D	Requires Str 14 Dex 12
Curved Sword	Slash
Spinning Slash	FP 6 ( - 12)
Wgt. 4.5	Passive -

Grossmesser is a Curved Sword in Elden Ring. The Grossmesser scales primarily with Dexterity and Strength and is a good Weapon for its Spinning Slash Skill which allows tha player to spin and deal Slash damage to foes in range. This will be ideal for when facing numerous enemies at a time.

Curved sword boasting a large blade.
This weapon is designed to make use of its weight in combination with its sharp cutting edge.

A thoroughly reliable choice of weapon for those who can master its particulars.

Where to Find Grossmesser in Elden Ring

The Grossmesser weapon can be found at the following location:

A possible drop from Skeletons that wield the weapon. For example, this weapon can be dropped by Skeletons in Tombsward Catacombs. The Skeletons that may drop a Grossmesser do not use a shield or a bow, and can be recognized by their rolling move.

Elden Ring Grossmesser Notes & Tips

Weapon Skill: Spinning Slash
This weapon can be infused with Ashes of War.
Grossmesser can be upgraded by using Smithing Stones
Sell Value: 100
Base drop rate is 2% (at 100 Discovery).
NOTE: As of Patch 1.08, poise damage has been reduced, but only for PVP.
NOTE: As of Patch 1.09, the scaling values of this weapon were changed. Please refer to the Upgrades Table of this weapon below. Additionally, the running attack speed, first attack speed of straight sword has increased. The attack recovery time has also decreased.
Other notes and player tips go here

The Grossmesser can be infused with Ashes of War. Click below for a list of all possible Ashes of War that can be applied to the curved sword.

See usable Ashes of War (click to reveal)

All Affinities

Only Standard, Heavy, Keen, Quality, Fire, and Flame Art

Only Standard, Heavy, Keen, Quality, Lightning, and Sacred

Only Standard, Heavy, Keen, Quality, Magic, and Cold

Only Standard, Heavy, Keen, Quality, Poison, Blood, and Occult

Moveset & Videos in Elden Ring for Grossmesser

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Grossmesser PVP Poise Damage Values in Elden Ring

Patch 1.10 adjusted PVP Poise Damage of all Weapons including some Spells and Incantations. Please take note that these adjustments are exclusive to PVP.

One-Handed Attacks

1H R1 (1/2/3/4/5/6 Attacks): 135/67.5/67.5/67.5/67.5/135
1H R2 (1/2 Attacks): 270/270
1H Charged R2 (1/2 Attacks): 270+540/270+540
1H R1 Jumping: 202.5
1H R2 Jumping: 540

Two-Handed Attacks

2H R1 (1/2/3/4/5/6 Attacks): 175.5/87.5/87.5/87.5/87.5/175.5
2H R2 (1/2 Attacks): 297/297
2H Charged R2 (1/2 Attacks): 297+594/297+594
2H R1 Jumping: 263.25
2H R2 Jumping: 594

Grossmesser Upgrades in Elden Ring

Please see the Upgrades page to understand the weapon bolstering process.

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Grossmesser Max Upgrades

Overview table for all upgrades at max level. Click on the tabs to see individual upgrade paths.

Grossmesser	Phy	Mag	Fir	Lit	Hol	Sta	Str	Dex	Int	Fai	Arc	Any	Phy	Mag	Fir	Lit	Hol	Bst	Rst
	Attack Power						Stat Scaling					Passive Effects	Damage Reduction (%)
Std+25	281	-	-	-	-	98	C	D	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	33.6	11
Hvy+25	258	-	-	-	-	98	B	-	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	30.8	11
Keen+25	258	-	-	-	-	98	E	B	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	30.8	11
Qua+25	225	-	-	-	-	98	B	B	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	30.8	11
Fire+25	187	-	187	-	-	98	C	E	-	-	-	-	43.7	32.3	42.5	39.1	32.3	28	10.45
Flame+25	220	-	220	-	-	98	D	E	-	C	-	-	43.7	32.3	42.5	39.1	32.3	28	10.45
Lit+25	191	-	-	191	-	98	E	C	-	-	-	-	43.7	32.3	39.1	42.5	32.3	28	10.45
Sac+25	220	-	-	-	220	98	D	E	-	C	-	-	43.7	39.1	32.3	32.3	42.5	28	10.45
Mag+25	220	220	-	-	-	98	E	E	B	-	-	-	43.7	42.5	32.3	32.3	39.1	28	10.45
Col+25	198	158	-	-	-	98	C	C	C	-	-	(105)	43.7	39.1	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	10.45
Poi+25	236	-	-	-	-	98	C	C	-	-	D	(95)	43.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	11
Blood+25	236	-	-	-	-	98	C	C	-	-	D	(82)	43.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	10.45
Occ+25	247	-	-	-	-	98	D	E	-	-	B	-	46	34	34	34	34	30.8	11

Grossmesser standard Upgrades

Requires regular reinforcement with Smithing Stone [1], Smithing Stone [2], Smithing Stone [3], Smithing Stone [4], Smithing Stone [5], Smithing Stone [6], Smithing Stone [7], Smithing Stone [8], and Ancient Dragon Smithing Stone.

This upgrade can be enchanted with Magic or boosted with Consumables.

Grossmesser	Phy	Mag	Fir	Lit	Hol	Sta	Str	Dex	Int	Fai	Arc	Any	Phy	Mag	Fir	Lit	Hol	Bst	Rst
	Attack Power						Stat Scaling					Passive Effects	Damage Reduction (%)
Standard	115	-	-	-	-	49	D	D	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	28	11
Standard +1	121	-	-	-	-	50	D	D	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	28.28	11
Standard +2	128	-	-	-	-	52	D	D	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	28.56	11
Standard +3	135	-	-	-	-	54	D	D	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	28.84	11
Standard +4	141	-	-	-	-	56	D	D	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	29.12	11
Standard +5	148	-	-	-	-	58	D	D	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	29.4	11
Standard +6	155	-	-	-	-	60	D	D	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	29.68	11
Standard +7	161	-	-	-	-	62	D	D	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	29.96	11
Standard +8	168	-	-	-	-	64	D	D	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	30.24	11
Standard +9	175	-	-	-	-	66	D	D	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	30.52	11
Standard +10	181	-	-	-	-	68	D	D	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	30.8	11
Standard +11	188	-	-	-	-	70	D	D	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	31.08	11
Standard +12	195	-	-	-	-	72	D	D	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	31.36	11
Standard +13	201	-	-	-	-	74	D	D	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	31.64	11
Standard +14	208	-	-	-	-	76	C	D	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	31.92	11
Standard +15	215	-	-	-	-	78	C	D	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	32.2	11
Standard +16	221	-	-	-	-	80	C	D	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	32.48	11
Standard +17	228	-	-	-	-	82	C	D	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	32.48	11
Standard +18	235	-	-	-	-	84	C	D	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	32.76	11
Standard +19	241	-	-	-	-	86	C	D	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	32.76	11
Standard +20	248	-	-	-	-	88	C	D	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	33.04	11
Standard +21	255	-	-	-	-	90	C	D	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	33.04	11
Standard +22	261	-	-	-	-	92	C	D	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	33.04	11
Standard +23	268	-	-	-	-	94	C	D	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	33.32	11
Standard +24	275	-	-	-	-	96	C	D	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	33.32	11
Standard +25	281	-	-	-	-	98	C	D	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	33.6	11

Grossmesser Heavy Upgrades

This upgrade can be enchanted with Magic or boosted with Consumables.

Grossmesser	Phy	Mag	Fir	Lit	Hol	Sta	Str	Dex	Int	Fai	Arc	Any	Phy	Mag	Fir	Lit	Hol	Bst	Rst
	Attack Power						Stat Scaling					Passive Effects	Damage Reduction (%)
Heavy	104	-	-	-	-	49	C	-	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	28	11
Heavy +1	110	-	-	-	-	50	C	-	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	28.28	11
Heavy +2	116	-	-	-	-	52	B	-	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	28.28	11
Heavy +3	122	-	-	-	-	54	B	-	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	28.56	11
Heavy +4	129	-	-	-	-	56	B	-	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	28.56	11
Heavy +5	135	-	-	-	-	58	B	-	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	28.84	11
Heavy +6	141	-	-	-	-	60	B	-	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	28.84	11
Heavy +7	147	-	-	-	-	62	B	-	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	29.12	11
Heavy +8	153	-	-	-	-	64	B	-	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	29.12	11
Heavy +9	159	-	-	-	-	66	B	-	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	29.12	11
Heavy +10	166	-	-	-	-	68	B	-	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	29.4	11
Heavy +11	172	-	-	-	-	70	B	-	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	29.4	11
Heavy +12	178	-	-	-	-	72	B	-	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	29.4	11
Heavy +13	184	-	-	-	-	74	B	-	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	29.68	11
Heavy +14	190	-	-	-	-	76	B	-	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	29.68	11
Heavy +15	196	-	-	-	-	78	B	-	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	29.68	11
Heavy +16	203	-	-	-	-	80	B	-	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	29.96	11
Heavy +17	209	-	-	-	-	82	B	-	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	29.96	11
Heavy +18	215	-	-	-	-	84	B	-	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	29.96	11
Heavy +19	221	-	-	-	-	86	B	-	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	30.24	11
Heavy +20	227	-	-	-	-	88	B	-	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	30.24	11
Heavy +21	233	-	-	-	-	90	B	-	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	30.24	11
Heavy +22	240	-	-	-	-	92	B	-	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	30.52	11
Heavy +23	246	-	-	-	-	94	B	-	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	30.52	11
Heavy +24	252	-	-	-	-	96	B	-	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	30.52	11
Heavy +25	258	-	-	-	-	98	B	-	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	30.8	11

Grossmesser Keen Upgrades

This upgrade can be enchanted with Magic or boosted with Consumables.

Grossmesser	Phy	Mag	Fir	Lit	Hol	Sta	Str	Dex	Int	Fai	Arc	Any	Phy	Mag	Fir	Lit	Hol	Bst	Rst
	Attack Power						Stat Scaling					Passive Effects	Damage Reduction (%)
Keen	104	-	-	-	-	49	E	C	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	28	11
Keen +1	110	-	-	-	-	50	E	C	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	28.28	11
Keen +2	116	-	-	-	-	52	E	C	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	28.28	11
Keen +3	122	-	-	-	-	54	E	C	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	28.56	11
Keen +4	129	-	-	-	-	56	E	C	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	28.56	11
Keen +5	135	-	-	-	-	58	E	C	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	28.84	11
Keen +6	141	-	-	-	-	60	E	B	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	28.84	11
Keen +7	147	-	-	-	-	62	E	B	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	29.12	11
Keen +8	153	-	-	-	-	64	E	B	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	29.12	11
Keen +9	159	-	-	-	-	66	E	B	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	29.12	11
Keen +10	166	-	-	-	-	68	E	B	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	29.4	11
Keen +11	172	-	-	-	-	70	E	B	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	29.4	11
Keen +12	178	-	-	-	-	72	E	B	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	29.4	11
Keen +13	184	-	-	-	-	74	E	B	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	29.68	11
Keen +14	190	-	-	-	-	76	E	B	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	29.68	11
Keen +15	196	-	-	-	-	78	E	B	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	29.68	11
Keen +16	203	-	-	-	-	80	E	B	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	29.96	11
Keen +17	209	-	-	-	-	82	E	B	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	29.96	11
Keen +18	215	-	-	-	-	84	E	B	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	29.96	11
Keen +19	221	-	-	-	-	86	E	B	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	30.24	11
Keen +20	227	-	-	-	-	88	E	B	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	30.24	11
Keen +21	233	-	-	-	-	90	E	B	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	30.24	11
Keen +22	240	-	-	-	-	92	E	B	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	30.52	11
Keen +23	246	-	-	-	-	94	E	B	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	30.52	11
Keen +24	252	-	-	-	-	96	E	B	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	30.52	11
Keen +25	258	-	-	-	-	98	E	B	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	30.8	11

Grossmesser Quality Upgrades

This upgrade can be enchanted with Magic or boosted with Consumables.

Grossmesser	Phy	Mag	Fir	Lit	Hol	Sta	Str	Dex	Int	Fai	Arc	Any	Phy	Mag	Fir	Lit	Hol	Bst	Rst
	Attack Power						Stat Scaling					Passive Effects	Damage Reduction (%)
Quality	99	-	-	-	-	49	D	D	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	28	11
Quality +1	104	-	-	-	-	50	D	D	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	28.28	11
Quality +2	109	-	-	-	-	52	C	C	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	28.28	11
Quality +3	114	-	-	-	-	54	C	C	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	28.56	11
Quality +4	119	-	-	-	-	56	C	C	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	28.56	11
Quality +5	124	-	-	-	-	58	C	C	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	28.84	11
Quality +6	129	-	-	-	-	60	C	C	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	28.84	11
Quality +7	134	-	-	-	-	62	C	C	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	29.12	11
Quality +8	139	-	-	-	-	64	C	C	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	29.12	11
Quality +9	144	-	-	-	-	66	C	C	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	29.12	11
Quality +10	149	-	-	-	-	68	C	C	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	29.4	11
Quality +11	154	-	-	-	-	70	C	C	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	29.4	11
Quality +12	159	-	-	-	-	72	C	C	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	29.4	11
Quality +13	164	-	-	-	-	74	C	C	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	29.68	11
Quality +14	169	-	-	-	-	76	B	B	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	29.68	11
Quality +15	174	-	-	-	-	78	B	B	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	29.68	11
Quality +16	179	-	-	-	-	80	B	B	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	29.96	11
Quality +17	185	-	-	-	-	82	B	B	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	29.96	11
Quality +18	190	-	-	-	-	84	B	B	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	29.96	11
Quality +19	195	-	-	-	-	86	B	B	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	30.24	11
Quality +20	200	-	-	-	-	88	B	B	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	30.24	11
Quality +21	205	-	-	-	-	90	B	B	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	30.24	11
Quality +22	210	-	-	-	-	92	B	B	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	30.52	11
Quality +23	215	-	-	-	-	94	B	B	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	30.52	11
Quality +24	220	-	-	-	-	96	B	B	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	30.52	11
Quality +25	225	-	-	-	-	98	B	B	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	30.8	11

Grossmesser Fire Upgrades

This upgrade cannot be enchanted with Magic or boosted with Consumables.

Grossmesser	Phy	Mag	Fir	Lit	Hol	Sta	Str	Dex	Int	Fai	Arc	Any	Phy	Mag	Fir	Lit	Hol	Bst	Rst
	Attack Power						Stat Scaling					Passive Effects	Damage Reduction (%)
Fire	88	-	88	-	-	49	D	E	-	-	-	-	43.7	32.3	39.1	35.7	32.3	28	10.45
Fire +1	91	-	91	-	-	50	D	E	-	-	-	-	43.7	32.3	39.1	35.7	32.3	28	10.45
Fire +2	95	-	95	-	-	52	D	E	-	-	-	-	43.7	32.3	39.44	36.04	32.3	28	10.45
Fire +3	99	-	99	-	-	54	D	E	-	-	-	-	43.7	32.3	39.44	36.04	32.3	28	10.45
Fire +4	103	-	103	-	-	56	D	E	-	-	-	-	43.7	32.3	39.78	36.38	32.3	28	10.45
Fire +5	107	-	107	-	-	58	D	E	-	-	-	-	43.7	32.3	39.78	36.38	32.3	28	10.45
Fire +6	111	-	111	-	-	60	D	E	-	-	-	-	43.7	32.3	40.12	36.72	32.3	28	10.45
Fire +7	115	-	115	-	-	62	D	E	-	-	-	-	43.7	32.3	40.12	36.72	32.3	28	10.45
Fire +8	119	-	119	-	-	64	D	E	-	-	-	-	43.7	32.3	40.46	37.06	32.3	28	10.45
Fire +9	123	-	123	-	-	66	D	E	-	-	-	-	43.7	32.3	40.46	37.06	32.3	28	10.45
Fire +10	127	-	127	-	-	68	D	E	-	-	-	-	43.7	32.3	40.8	37.4	32.3	28	10.45
Fire +11	131	-	131	-	-	70	D	E	-	-	-	-	43.7	32.3	40.8	37.4	32.3	28	10.45
Fire +12	135	-	135	-	-	72	D	E	-	-	-	-	43.7	32.3	41.14	37.74	32.3	28	10.45
Fire +13	139	-	139	-	-	74	C	E	-	-	-	-	43.7	32.3	41.14	37.74	32.3	28	10.45
Fire +14	143	-	143	-	-	76	C	E	-	-	-	-	43.7	32.3	41.14	37.74	32.3	28	10.45
Fire +15	147	-	147	-	-	78	C	E	-	-	-	-	43.7	32.3	41.48	38.08	32.3	28	10.45
Fire +16	151	-	151	-	-	80	C	E	-	-	-	-	43.7	32.3	41.48	38.08	32.3	28	10.45
Fire +17	155	-	155	-	-	82	C	E	-	-	-	-	43.7	32.3	41.48	38.08	32.3	28	10.45
Fire +18	159	-	159	-	-	84	C	E	-	-	-	-	43.7	32.3	41.82	38.42	32.3	28	10.45
Fire +19	163	-	163	-	-	86	C	E	-	-	-	-	43.7	32.3	41.82	38.42	32.3	28	10.45
Fire +20	167	-	167	-	-	88	C	E	-	-	-	-	43.7	32.3	41.82	38.42	32.3	28	10.45
Fire +21	171	-	171	-	-	90	C	E	-	-	-	-	43.7	32.3	42.16	38.76	32.3	28	10.45
Fire +22	175	-	175	-	-	92	C	E	-	-	-	-	43.7	32.3	42.16	38.76	32.3	28	10.45
Fire +23	179	-	179	-	-	94	C	E	-	-	-	-	43.7	32.3	42.16	38.76	32.3	28	10.45
Fire +24	183	-	183	-	-	96	C	E	-	-	-	-	43.7	32.3	42.16	38.76	32.3	28	10.45
Fire +25	187	-	187	-	-	98	C	E	-	-	-	-	43.7	32.3	42.5	39.1	32.3	28	10.45

Grossmesser Flame Upgrades

This upgrade cannot be enchanted with Magic or boosted with Consumables.

Grossmesser	Phy	Mag	Fir	Lit	Hol	Sta	Str	Dex	Int	Fai	Arc	Any	Phy	Mag	Fir	Lit	Hol	Bst	Rst
	Attack Power						Stat Scaling					Passive Effects	Damage Reduction (%)
Flame	93	-	93	-	-	49	E	E	-	D	-	-	43.7	32.3	39.1	35.7	32.3	28	10.45
Flame +1	98	-	98	-	-	50	E	E	-	D	-	-	43.7	32.3	39.1	35.7	32.3	28	10.45
Flame +2	103	-	103	-	-	52	E	E	-	D	-	-	43.7	32.3	39.44	36.04	32.3	28	10.45
Flame+3	108	-	108	-	-	54	E	E	-	D	-	-	43.7	32.3	39.44	36.04	32.3	28	10.45
Flame +4	113	-	113	-	-	56	E	E	-	D	-	-	43.7	32.3	39.78	36.38	32.3	28	10.45
Flame +5	118	-	118	-	-	58	E	E	-	D	-	-	43.7	32.3	39.78	36.38	32.3	28	10.45
Flame +6	123	-	123	-	-	60	E	E	-	D	-	-	43.7	32.3	40.12	36.72	32.3	28	10.45
Flame +7	128	-	128	-	-	62	E	E	-	D	-	-	43.7	32.3	40.12	36.72	32.3	28	10.45
Flame +8	133	-	133	-	-	64	E	E	-	D	-	-	43.7	32.3	40.46	37.06	32.3	28	10.45
Flame +9	139	-	139	-	-	66	E	E	-	C	-	-	43.7	32.3	40.46	37.06	32.3	28	10.45
Flame +10	144	-	144	-	-	68	E	E	-	C	-	-	43.7	32.3	40.8	37.4	32.3	28	10.45
Flame +11	149	-	149	-	-	70	E	E	-	C	-	-	43.7	32.3	40.8	37.4	32.3	28	10.45
Flame +12	154	-	154	-	-	72	E	E	-	C	-	-	43.7	32.3	41.14	37.74	32.3	28	10.45
Flame +13	159	-	159	-	-	74	E	E	-	C	-	-	43.7	32.3	41.14	37.74	32.3	28	10.45
Flame +14	164	-	164	-	-	76	E	E	-	C	-	-	43.7	32.3	41.14	37.74	32.3	28	10.45
Flame +15	169	-	169	-	-	78	E	E	-	C	-	-	43.7	32.3	41.48	38.08	32.3	28	10.45
Flame +16	174	-	174	-	-	80	E	E	-	C	-	-	43.7	32.3	41.48	38.08	32.3	28	10.45
Flame +17	179	-	179	-	-	82	E	E	-	C	-	-	43.7	32.3	41.48	38.08	32.3	28	10.45
Flame +18	184	-	184	-	-	84	E	E	-	C	-	-	43.7	32.3	41.82	38.42	32.3	28	10.45
Flame +19	189	-	189	-	-	86	E	E	-	C	-	-	43.7	32.3	41.82	38.42	32.3	28	10.45
Flame +20	194	-	194	-	-	88	E	E	-	C	-	-	43.7	32.3	41.82	38.42	32.3	28	10.45
Flame +21	199	-	199	-	-	90	E	E	-	C	-	-	43.7	32.3	42.16	38.76	32.3	28	10.45
Flame +22	204	-	204	-	-	92	E	E	-	C	-	-	43.7	32.3	42.16	38.76	32.3	28	10.45
Flame +23	209	-	209	-	-	94	E	E	-	C	-	-	43.7	32.3	42.16	38.76	32.3	28	10.45
Flame +24	214	-	214	-	-	96	E	E	-	C	-	-	43.7	32.3	42.16	38.76	32.3	28	10.45
Flame +25	220	-	220	-	-	98	D	E	-	C	-	-	43.7	32.3	42.5	39.1	32.3	28	10.45

Grossmesser Lightning Upgrades

This upgrade cannot be enchanted with Magic or boosted with Consumables.

Grossmesser	Phy	Mag	Fir	Lit	Hol	Sta	Str	Dex	Int	Fai	Arc	Any	Phy	Mag	Fir	Lit	Hol	Bst	Rst
	Attack Power						Stat Scaling					Passive Effects	Damage Reduction (%)
Lightning	88	-	-	88	-	49	E	D	-	-	-	-	43.7	32.3	35.7	39.1	32.3	28	10.45
Lightning +1	92	-	-	92	-	50	E	D	-	-	-	-	43.7	32.3	35.7	39.1	32.3	28	10.45
Lightning +2	96	-	-	96	-	52	E	D	-	-	-	-	43.7	32.3	36.04	39.44	32.3	28	10.45
Lightning +3	100	-	-	100	-	54	E	D	-	-	-	-	43.7	32.3	36.04	39.44	32.3	28	10.45
Lightning +4	104	-	-	104	-	56	E	D	-	-	-	-	43.7	32.3	36.38	39.78	32.3	28	10.45
Lightning +5	108	-	-	108	-	58	E	D	-	-	-	-	43.7	32.3	36.38	39.78	32.3	28	10.45
Lightning +6	112	-	-	112	-	60	E	D	-	-	-	-	43.7	32.3	36.72	40.12	32.3	28	10.45
Lightning +7	116	-	-	116	-	62	E	D	-	-	-	-	43.7	32.3	36.72	40.12	32.3	28	10.45
Lightning +8	121	-	-	121	-	64	E	D	-	-	-	-	43.7	32.3	37.06	40.46	32.3	28	10.45
Lightning +9	125	-	-	125	-	66	E	D	-	-	-	-	43.7	32.3	37.06	40.46	32.3	28	10.45
Lightning +10	129	-	-	129	-	68	E	D	-	-	-	-	43.7	32.3	37.4	40.8	32.3	28	10.45
Lightning +11	133	-	-	133	-	70	E	D	-	-	-	-	43.7	32.3	37.4	40.8	32.3	28	10.45
Lightning +12	137	-	-	137	-	72	E	D	-	-	-	-	43.7	32.3	37.74	41.14	32.3	28	10.45
Lightning +13	141	-	-	141	-	74	E	C	-	-	-	-	43.7	32.3	37.74	41.14	32.3	28	10.45
Lightning +14	145	-	-	145	-	76	E	C	-	-	-	-	43.7	32.3	37.74	41.14	32.3	28	10.45
Lightning +15	150	-	-	150	-	78	E	C	-	-	-	-	43.7	32.3	38.08	41.48	32.3	28	10.45
Lightning +16	154	-	-	154	-	80	E	C	-	-	-	-	43.7	32.3	38.08	41.48	32.3	28	10.45
Lightning +17	158	-	-	158	-	82	E	C	-	-	-	-	43.7	32.3	38.08	41.48	32.3	28	10.45
Lightning +18	162	-	-	162	-	84	E	C	-	-	-	-	43.7	32.3	38.42	41.82	32.3	28	10.45
Lightning +19	166	-	-	166	-	86	E	C	-	-	-	-	43.7	32.3	38.42	41.82	32.3	28	10.45
Lightning +20	170	-	-	170	-	88	E	C	-	-	-	-	43.7	32.3	38.42	41.82	32.3	28	10.45
Lightning +21	174	-	-	174	-	90	E	C	-	-	-	-	43.7	32.3	38.76	42.16	32.3	28	10.45
Lightning +22	178	-	-	178	-	92	E	C	-	-	-	-	43.7	32.3	38.76	42.16	32.3	28	10.45
Lightning +23	183	-	-	183	-	94	E	C	-	-	-	-	43.7	32.3	38.76	42.16	32.3	28	10.45
Lightning +24	187	-	-	187	-	96	E	C	-	-	-	-	43.7	32.3	38.76	42.16	32.3	28	10.45
Lightning +25	191	-	-	191	-	98	E	C	-	-	-	-	43.7	32.3	39.1	42.5	32.3	28	10.45

Grossmesser Sacred Upgrades

This upgrade cannot be enchanted with Magic or boosted with Consumables.

Grossmesser	Phy	Mag	Fir	Lit	Hol	Sta	Str	Dex	Int	Fai	Arc	Any	Phy	Mag	Fir	Lit	Hol	Bst	Rst
	Attack Power						Stat Scaling					Passive Effects	Damage Reduction (%)
Sacred	82	-	-	-	82	49	E	E	-	D	-	-	43.7	35.7	32.3	32.3	39.1	28	10.45
Sacred +1	88	-	-	-	88	50	E	E	-	D	-	-	43.7	35.7	32.3	32.3	39.1	28	10.45
Sacred +2	93	-	-	-	93	52	E	E	-	D	-	-	43.7	36.04	32.3	32.3	39.44	28	10.45
Sacred +3	99	-	-	-	99	54	E	E	-	D	-	-	43.7	36.04	32.3	32.3	39.44	28	10.45
Sacred +4	104	-	-	-	104	56	E	E	-	D	-	-	43.7	36.38	32.3	32.3	39.78	28	10.45
Sacred +5	110	-	-	-	110	58	E	E	-	D	-	-	43.7	36.38	32.3	32.3	39.78	28	10.45
Sacred +6	115	-	-	-	115	60	E	E	-	D	-	-	43.7	36.72	32.3	32.3	40.12	28	10.45
Sacred +7	121	-	-	-	121	62	E	E	-	D	-	-	43.7	36.72	32.3	32.3	40.12	28	10.45
Sacred +8	126	-	-	-	126	64	E	E	-	D	-	-	43.7	37.06	32.3	32.3	40.46	28	10.45
Sacred +9	132	-	-	-	132	66	E	E	-	C	-	-	43.7	37.06	32.3	32.3	40.46	28	10.45
Sacred +10	137	-	-	-	137	68	E	E	-	C	-	-	43.7	37.4	32.3	32.3	40.8	28	10.45
Sacred +11	143	-	-	-	143	70	E	E	-	C	-	-	43.7	37.4	32.3	32.3	40.8	28	10.45
Sacred +12	148	-	-	-	148	72	E	E	-	C	-	-	43.7	37.74	32.3	32.3	41.14	28	10.45
Sacred +13	154	-	-	-	154	74	E	E	-	C	-	-	43.7	37.74	32.3	32.3	41.14	28	10.45
Sacred +14	159	-	-	-	159	76	E	E	-	C	-	-	43.7	37.74	32.3	32.3	41.14	28	10.45
Sacred +15	165	-	-	-	165	78	E	E	-	C	-	-	43.7	38.08	32.3	32.3	41.48	28	10.45
Sacred +16	170	-	-	-	170	80	E	E	-	C	-	-	43.7	38.08	32.3	32.3	41.48	28	10.45
Sacred +17	176	-	-	-	176	82	E	E	-	C	-	-	43.7	38.08	32.3	32.3	41.48	28	10.45
Sacred +18	181	-	-	-	181	84	E	E	-	C	-	-	43.7	38.42	32.3	32.3	41.82	28	10.45
Sacred +19	187	-	-	-	187	86	E	E	-	C	-	-	43.7	38.42	32.3	32.3	41.82	28	10.45
Sacred +20	192	-	-	-	192	88	E	E	-	C	-	-	43.7	38.42	32.3	32.3	41.82	28	10.45
Sacred +21	198	-	-	-	198	90	E	E	-	C	-	-	43.7	38.76	32.3	32.3	42.16	28	10.45
Sacred +22	203	-	-	-	203	92	E	E	-	C	-	-	43.7	38.76	32.3	32.3	42.16	28	10.45
Sacred +23	209	-	-	-	209	94	E	E	-	C	-	-	43.7	38.76	32.3	32.3	42.16	28	10.45
Sacred +24	214	-	-	-	214	96	E	E	-	C	-	-	43.7	38.76	32.3	32.3	42.16	28	10.45
Sacred +25	220	-	-	-	220	98	D	E	-	C	-	-	43.7	39.1	32.3	32.3	42.5	28	10.45

Grossmesser Magic Upgrades

This upgrade cannot be enchanted with Magic or boosted with Consumables.

Grossmesser	Phy	Mag	Fir	Lit	Hol	Sta	Str	Dex	Int	Fai	Arc	Any	Phy	Mag	Fir	Lit	Hol	Bst	Rst
	Attack Power						Stat Scaling					Passive Effects	Damage Reduction (%)
Magic	82	82	-	-	-	49	E	E	D	-	-	-	43.7	39.1	32.3	32.3	35.7	28	10.45
Magic +1	88	88	-	-	-	50	E	E	D	-	-	-	43.7	39.1	32.3	32.3	35.7	28	10.45
Magic +2	93	93	-	-	-	52	E	E	D	-	-	-	43.7	39.44	32.3	32.3	36.04	28	10.45
Magic +3	99	99	-	-	-	54	E	E	D	-	-	-	43.7	39.44	32.3	32.3	36.04	28	10.45
Magic +4	104	104	-	-	-	56	E	E	D	-	-	-	43.7	39.78	32.3	32.3	36.38	28	10.45
Magic +5	110	110	-	-	-	58	E	E	D	-	-	-	43.7	39.78	32.3	32.3	36.38	28	10.45
Magic +6	115	115	-	-	-	60	E	E	D	-	-	-	43.7	40.12	32.3	32.3	36.72	28	10.45
Magic +7	121	121	-	-	-	62	E	E	C	-	-	-	43.7	40.12	32.3	32.3	36.72	28	10.45
Magic +8	126	126	-	-	-	64	E	E	C	-	-	-	43.7	40.46	32.3	32.3	37.06	28	10.45
Magic +9	132	132	-	-	-	66	E	E	C	-	-	-	43.7	40.46	32.3	32.3	37.06	28	10.45
Magic +10	137	137	-	-	-	68	E	E	C	-	-	-	43.7	40.8	32.3	32.3	37.4	28	10.45
Magic +11	143	143	-	-	-	70	E	E	C	-	-	-	43.7	40.8	32.3	32.3	37.4	28	10.45
Magic +12	148	148	-	-	-	72	E	E	C	-	-	-	43.7	41.14	32.3	32.3	37.74	28	10.45
Magic +13	154	154	-	-	-	74	E	E	C	-	-	-	43.7	41.14	32.3	32.3	37.74	28	10.45
Magic +14	159	159	-	-	-	76	E	E	C	-	-	-	43.7	41.14	32.3	32.3	37.74	28	10.45
Magic +15	165	165	-	-	-	78	E	E	C	-	-	-	43.7	41.48	32.3	32.3	38.08	28	10.45
Magic +16	170	170	-	-	-	80	E	E	C	-	-	-	43.7	41.48	32.3	32.3	38.08	28	10.45
Magic +17	176	176	-	-	-	82	E	E	C	-	-	-	43.7	41.48	32.3	32.3	38.08	28	10.45
Magic +18	181	181	-	-	-	84	E	E	C	-	-	-	43.7	41.82	32.3	32.3	38.42	28	10.45
Magic +19	187	187	-	-	-	86	E	E	C	-	-	-	43.7	41.82	32.3	32.3	38.42	28	10.45
Magic +20	192	192	-	-	-	88	E	E	B	-	-	-	43.7	41.82	32.3	32.3	38.42	28	10.45
Magic +21	198	198	-	-	-	90	E	E	B	-	-	-	43.7	42.16	32.3	32.3	38.76	28	10.45
Magic +22	203	203	-	-	-	92	E	E	B	-	-	-	43.7	42.16	32.3	32.3	38.76	28	10.45
Magic +23	209	209	-	-	-	94	E	E	B	-	-	-	43.7	42.16	32.3	32.3	38.76	28	10.45
Magic +24	214	214	-	-	-	96	E	E	B	-	-	-	43.7	42.16	32.3	32.3	38.76	28	10.45
Magic +25	220	220	-	-	-	98	E	E	B	-	-	-	43.7	42.5	32.3	32.3	39.1	28	10.45

Grossmesser Cold Upgrades

This upgrade cannot be enchanted with Magic or boosted with Consumables.

Grossmesser	Phy	Mag	Fir	Lit	Hol	Sta	Str	Dex	Int	Fai	Arc	Any	Phy	Mag	Fir	Lit	Hol	Bst	Rst
	Attack Power						Stat Scaling					Passive Effects	Damage Reduction (%)
Cold	93	74	-	-	-	49	D	D	D	-	-	(66)	43.7	35.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	10.45
Cold +1	97	78	-	-	-	50	D	D	D	-	-	(67)	43.7	35.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	10.45
Cold +2	101	81	-	-	-	52	D	D	D	-	-	(69)	43.7	36.04	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	10.45
Cold +3	106	84	-	-	-	54	D	D	D	-	-	(70)	43.7	36.04	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	10.45
Cold +4	110	88	-	-	-	56	D	D	D	-	-	(72)	43.7	36.38	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	10.45
Cold +5	114	91	-	-	-	58	D	D	D	-	-	(73)	43.7	36.38	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	10.45
Cold +6	118	94	-	-	-	60	D	D	D	-	-	(75)	43.7	36.72	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	10.45
Cold +7	122	98	-	-	-	62	D	D	D	-	-	(77)	43.7	36.72	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	10.45
Cold +8	126	101	-	-	-	64	D	D	D	-	-	(78)	43.7	37.06	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	10.45
Cold +9	131	104	-	-	-	66	C	D	D	-	-	(80)	43.7	37.06	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	10.45
Cold +10	135	108	-	-	-	68	C	D	D	-	-	(81)	43.7	37.06	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	10.45
Cold +11	139	111	-	-	-	70	C	D	C	-	-	(83)	43.7	37.4	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	10.45
Cold +12	143	114	-	-	-	72	C	D	C	-	-	(85)	43.7	37.4	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	10.45
Cold +13	147	118	-	-	-	74	C	D	C	-	-	(86)	43.7	37.4	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	10.45
Cold +14	152	121	-	-	-	76	C	D	C	-	-	(88)	43.7	37.74	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	10.45
Cold +15	156	124	-	-	-	78	C	D	C	-	-	(89)	43.7	37.74	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	10.45
Cold +16	160	128	-	-	-	80	C	D	C	-	-	(91)	43.7	38.08	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	10.45
Cold +17	164	131	-	-	-	82	C	D	C	-	-	(92)	43.7	38.08	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	10.45
Cold +18	168	134	-	-	-	84	C	D	C	-	-	(94)	43.7	38.08	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	10.45
Cold +19	172	138	-	-	-	86	C	D	C	-	-	(96)	43.7	38.42	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	10.45
Cold +20	177	141	-	-	-	88	C	D	C	-	-	(97)	43.7	38.42	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	10.45
Cold +21	181	145	-	-	-	90	C	D	C	-	-	(99)	43.7	38.42	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	10.45
Cold +22	185	148	-	-	-	92	C	D	C	-	-	(100)	43.7	38.76	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	10.45
Cold +23	189	151	-	-	-	94	C	D	C	-	-	(102)	43.7	38.76	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	10.45
Cold +24	193	155	-	-	-	96	C	C	C	-	-	(104)	43.7	38.76	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	10.45
Cold +25	198	158	-	-	-	98	C	C	C	-	-	(105)	43.7	39.1	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	10.45

Grossmesser Poison Upgrades

Elden Ring display values for poison and blood include buildup added by scaling via the Arcane Stat. The values on this table reflect the default values only. Your own Arcane Scaling will alter the number while inside the game. If you don't meet the arcane requirements for an arcane-scaling passive then buildup will show as 60% of the base values.

This upgrade cannot be enchanted with Magic or boosted with Consumables.

Grossmesser	Phy	Mag	Fir	Lit	Hol	Sta	Str	Dex	Int	Fai	Arc	Any	Phy	Mag	Fir	Lit	Hol	Bst	Rst
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Poison	93	-	-	-	-	49	D	D	-	-	D	(66)	43.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	11
Poison +1	99	-	-	-	-	50	D	D	-	-	D	(67)	43.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	11
Poison +2	104	-	-	-	-	52	D	D	-	-	D	(68)	43.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	11
Poison +3	110	-	-	-	-	54	D	D	-	-	D	(69)	43.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	11
Poison +4	116	-	-	-	-	56	D	D	-	-	D	(70)	43.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	11
Poison +5	122	-	-	-	-	58	D	D	-	-	D	(71)	43.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	11
Poison +6	127	-	-	-	-	60	D	D	-	-	D	(73)	43.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	11
Poison +7	133	-	-	-	-	62	D	D	-	-	D	(74)	43.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	11
Poison +8	139	-	-	-	-	64	D	D	-	-	D	(75)	43.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	11
Poison +9	144	-	-	-	-	66	D	D	-	-	D	(76)	43.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	11
Poison +10	150	-	-	-	-	68	C	D	-	-	D	(77)	43.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	11
Poison +11	156	-	-	-	-	70	C	D	-	-	D	(79)	43.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	11
Poison +12	162	-	-	-	-	72	C	D	-	-	D	(80)	43.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	11
Poison +13	167	-	-	-	-	74	C	D	-	-	D	(81)	43.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	11
Poison +14	173	-	-	-	-	76	C	D	-	-	D	(82)	43.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	11
Poison +15	179	-	-	-	-	78	C	D	-	-	D	(83)	43.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	11
Poison +16	185	-	-	-	-	80	C	D	-	-	D	(85)	43.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	11
Poison +17	190	-	-	-	-	82	C	D	-	-	D	(86)	43.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	11
Poison +18	196	-	-	-	-	84	C	D	-	-	D	(87)	43.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	11
Poison +19	202	-	-	-	-	86	C	D	-	-	D	(88)	43.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	11
Poison +20	207	-	-	-	-	88	C	D	-	-	D	(89)	43.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	11
Poison +21	213	-	-	-	-	90	C	D	-	-	D	(90)	43.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	11
Poison +22	219	-	-	-	-	92	C	C	-	-	D	(92)	43.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	11
Poison +23	225	-	-	-	-	94	C	C	-	-	D	(93)	43.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	11
Poison +24	230	-	-	-	-	96	C	C	-	-	D	(94)	43.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	11
Poison +25	236	-	-	-	-	98	C	C	-	-	D	(95)	43.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	11

Grossmesser Blood Upgrades

This upgrade cannot be enchanted with Magic or boosted with Consumables.

Grossmesser	Phy	Mag	Fir	Lit	Hol	Sta	Str	Dex	Int	Fai	Arc	Any	Phy	Mag	Fir	Lit	Hol	Bst	Rst
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Blood	93	-	-	-	-	49	D	D	-	-	D	(57)	43.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	10.45
Blood +1	99	-	-	-	-	50	D	D	-	-	D	(58)	43.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	10.45
Blood +2	104	-	-	-	-	52	D	D	-	-	D	(59)	43.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	10.45
Blood +3	110	-	-	-	-	54	D	D	-	-	D	(60)	43.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	10.45
Blood +4	116	-	-	-	-	56	D	D	-	-	D	(61)	43.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	10.45
Blood +5	122	-	-	-	-	58	D	D	-	-	D	(62)	43.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	10.45
Blood +6	127	-	-	-	-	60	D	D	-	-	D	(63)	43.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	10.45
Blood +7	133	-	-	-	-	62	D	D	-	-	D	(64)	43.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	10.45
Blood +8	139	-	-	-	-	64	D	D	-	-	D	(65)	43.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	10.45
Blood +9	144	-	-	-	-	66	D	D	-	-	D	(66)	43.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	10.45
Blood +10	150	-	-	-	-	68	C	D	-	-	D	(67)	43.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	10.45
Blood +11	156	-	-	-	-	70	C	D	-	-	D	(68)	43.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	10.45
Blood +12	162	-	-	-	-	72	C	D	-	-	D	(69)	43.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	10.45
Blood +13	167	-	-	-	-	74	C	D	-	-	D	(70)	43.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	10.45
Blood +14	173	-	-	-	-	76	C	D	-	-	D	(71)	43.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	10.45
Blood +15	179	-	-	-	-	78	C	D	-	-	D	(72)	43.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	10.45
Blood +16	185	-	-	-	-	80	C	D	-	-	D	(73)	43.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	10.45
Blood +17	190	-	-	-	-	82	C	D	-	-	D	(74)	43.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	10.45
Blood +18	196	-	-	-	-	84	C	D	-	-	D	(75)	43.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	10.45
Blood +19	202	-	-	-	-	86	C	D	-	-	D	(76)	43.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	10.45
Blood +20	207	-	-	-	-	88	C	D	-	-	D	(77)	43.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	10.45
Blood +21	213	-	-	-	-	90	C	D	-	-	D	(78)	43.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	10.45
Blood +22	219	-	-	-	-	92	C	C	-	-	D	(79)	43.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	10.45
Blood +23	225	-	-	-	-	94	C	C	-	-	D	(80)	43.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	10.45
Blood +24	230	-	-	-	-	96	C	C	-	-	D	(81)	43.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	10.45
Blood +25	236	-	-	-	-	98	C	C	-	-	D	(82)	43.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	10.45

Grossmesser Occult Upgrades

This upgrade cannot be enchanted with Magic or boosted with Consumables.

Grossmesser	Phy	Mag	Fir	Lit	Hol	Sta	Str	Dex	Int	Fai	Arc	Any	Phy	Mag	Fir	Lit	Hol	Bst	Rst
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Occult	99	-	-	-	-	49	E	E	-	-	C	-	46	34	34	34	34	28	11
Occult +1	104	-	-	-	-	50	E	E	-	-	C	-	46	34	34	34	34	28.28	11
Occult +2	110	-	-	-	-	52	E	E	-	-	C	-	46	34	34	34	34	28.28	11
Occult +3	116	-	-	-	-	54	E	E	-	-	C	-	46	34	34	34	34	28.56	11
Occult +4	122	-	-	-	-	56	E	E	-	-	C	-	46	34	34	34	34	28.56	11
Occult +5	128	-	-	-	-	58	E	E	-	-	C	-	46	34	34	34	34	28.84	11
Occult +6	134	-	-	-	-	60	E	E	-	-	C	-	46	34	34	34	34	28.84	11
Occult +7	140	-	-	-	-	62	E	E	-	-	C	-	46	34	34	34	34	29.12	11
Occult +8	146	-	-	-	-	64	E	E	-	-	B	-	46	34	34	34	34	29.12	11
Occult +9	152	-	-	-	-	66	E	E	-	-	B	-	46	34	34	34	34	29.12	11
Occult +10	158	-	-	-	-	68	E	E	-	-	B	-	46	34	34	34	34	29.4	11
Occult +11	164	-	-	-	-	70	E	E	-	-	B	-	46	34	34	34	34	29.4	11
Occult +12	170	-	-	-	-	72	E	E	-	-	B	-	46	34	34	34	34	29.4	11
Occult +13	176	-	-	-	-	74	E	E	-	-	B	-	46	34	34	34	34	29.68	11
Occult +14	182	-	-	-	-	76	E	E	-	-	B	-	46	34	34	34	34	29.68	11
Occult +15	188	-	-	-	-	78	E	E	-	-	B	-	46	34	34	34	34	29.68	11
Occult +16	194	-	-	-	-	80	E	E	-	-	B	-	46	34	34	34	34	29.96	11
Occult +17	199	-	-	-	-	82	E	E	-	-	B	-	46	34	34	34	34	29.96	11
Occult +18	205	-	-	-	-	84	E	E	-	-	B	-	46	34	34	34	34	29.96	11
Occult +19	211	-	-	-	-	86	E	E	-	-	B	-	46	34	34	34	34	30.24	11
Occult +20	217	-	-	-	-	88	D	E	-	-	B	-	46	34	34	34	34	30.24	11
Occult +21	223	-	-	-	-	90	D	E	-	-	B	-	46	34	34	34	34	30.24	11
Occult +22	229	-	-	-	-	92	D	E	-	-	B	-	46	34	34	34	34	30.52	11
Occult +23	235	-	-	-	-	94	D	E	-	-	B	-	46	34	34	34	34	30.52	11
Occult +24	241	-	-	-	-	96	D	E	-	-	B	-	46	34	34	34	34	30.52	11
Occult +25	247	-	-	-	-	98	D	E	-	-	B	-	46	34	34	34	34	30.8	11

Elden Ring Curved Swords
Bandit's Curved Sword ♦ Beastman's Curved Sword ♦ Falchion ♦ Flowing Curved Sword ♦ Magma Blade ♦ Mantis Blade ♦ Nox Flowing Sword ♦ Scavenger's Curved Sword ♦ Scimitar ♦ Serpent-God's Curved Sword ♦ Shamshir ♦ Shotel ♦ Wing of Astel

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- Anonymous
  29 Nov 2023 21:09
  Can y'all stop *****ing about the kilij tho?
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- Anonymous
  27 Sep 2023 23:06
  They didn't add a actual messer because it'd destroy the balance of the game
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- Anonymous
  16 Sep 2023 01:35
  This is just a thicc kilij in both blade and hilt design. Not a grossmesser. They had the name right in demon's souls and this is just another iteration. Anyways, I love swinging this two-handed over the other curved swords.
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- Anonymous
  11 Sep 2023 23:03
  Best looking curved sword IMO
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- Anonymous
  04 Sep 2023 23:20
  This is a Pala Kilij, not a Grossmesser.
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- Anonymous
  13 Aug 2023 23:58
  I despise this weapon solely because its very clearly just a fat bladed kilij and not a grossmesser.
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- Anonymous
  10 Aug 2023 22:39
  We pillage and plunder... Drink up me hearties yo ho... *snores*
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- RAMburger
  29 Jul 2023 22:21
  I finally got two of these for dual wielding (which is very fun with curved swords, never tried before). Caelid Catacombs skeleton. Probably took a bit over an hour, but most of that was before boosting discovery to 270. But after my first dropped, the second dropped only two tries later. So my RNG for them was backended I guess.
  
  Anyways I have one with spinning slash and one with blood blade for ranging. They’re very fun and versatile when used in conjunction with a great shield for block counters, and then using spinning slash which seems to work well for poise breaking. Instead of crits I’ll use a dragon incant, which is also fun.
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- RAMburger
  24 Jul 2023 22:42
  This thing will leave all who oppose it in a gross mess.
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- Anonymous
  24 Jul 2023 00:45
  Underrated. Very well-rounded in terms of AR, speed, and range, easy to obtain early, and also compliments a Greatshield well due to its relatively light weight. Heavy and Flame infusions both work well, too. Try going for guard counters with this.
  
  Forgot to mention the most important fact, too; it looks cool as hell.
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- Anonymous
  07 Jul 2023 22:49
  Grossmesser when Freshcleaner walks in the room:
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- Anonymous
  21 Jun 2023 05:33
  If you’re going into a dragoncommunion style build, duel gossmesser, one with occult one with sacred, is very strong, or swap out sacred for poison if you are running a rot breath build for double build if you arent a fan of the maris rapier’s higher dex requirement.
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- Anonymous
  07 Jun 2023 05:38
  LoL, even the falchion looks more like a messer. This is an ottoman kilij.
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- Anonymous
  09 May 2023 21:32
  is there a sheath?
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- Anonymous
  30 Apr 2023 22:11
  Looks more like a Ottoman sword, with thicker blade than usual, than a messer.
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- Anonymous
  27 Apr 2023 22:22
  why tf is this sword has WoRsE AR than Bandit's in Heavy infusion? just give the Bandit's a better DEX weapon and make this one a STR
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- Anonymous
  23 Apr 2023 23:35
  DS1 falchion lookin ahh
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- Anonymous
  10 Mar 2023 23:07
  Cool weapon, but like the scimitar it has a gap between the crossguard and the blade for some reason.
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- Anonymous
  20 Feb 2023 01:43
  After 2000 hrs I thought I saw all There is to see In this game. Then a skinny boy pooped one of these out and took me by suprise...too bad it's a 4/10
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- Anonymous
  19 Feb 2023 22:32
  Killing enemies not doing it for ya? Try turning them into a gross mess with the Grossmesser! Only 4 easy payments of 1995 runes!
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- Anonymous
  07 Feb 2023 22:54
  It sounds strange to put it on the curved sword, but the flame affinity with faith and strength build is actually pretty decent. there are really not that many enemies who resist flame damage. I just wish they would have a bit more poise, but that would make them overpowered I guess
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- Anonymous
  29 Jan 2023 21:25
  i literally killed 1 skeleton and i got it lol.
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- Anonymous
  17 Jan 2023 04:55
  Can't lie, I practically finished the entire game using the Grossmesser. It's very snappy, has great strength for it's speed especially applying heavy. Seems to make easy work of most bosses too. Under-appreciated weapon.
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- Anonymous
  08 Dec 2022 21:28
  Now we need a kriegMesser
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- Anonymous
  30 Nov 2022 22:18
  i don't know how rare this weapon is, but i killed the first skeleton that throws pots at you in Tombsward Catacombs, popped a fowl foot, and literally got the drop first try from the skeleton that ambushes you from behind
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- Anonymous
  11 Nov 2022 22:02
  Free trivia: The plural of Grossmesser is Grossmesser. Not that it matters that much, it's hard enough to get your hands on one of them.
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- Anonymous
  03 Nov 2022 22:48
  So far I used nine silver-pickled fowl feet... still nothing.
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- Anonymous
  31 Oct 2022 01:19
  Using the incantation "Litany of Proper Death" makes farming for this SO much better. It makes the skeletons unable to rez and it has a deceptively massive AoE.
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- Anonymous
  25 Oct 2022 23:50
  for the love of god please im begging you drop just once please
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- Anonymous
  23 Oct 2022 21:49
  This is based on a late medieval german weapon. Besides "swords", medieval germans also had "messers" (=literally knife). These messers were made in a similar way as normal knifes were, but as large as swords "Langes Messer" or even as large as two-handed swords (Großes Messer), the latter ones were usually more curved. They were often times rather simple and less expensive weapons without a lot of fancy stuff, but just as useful as swords. Both civilians and knights used them.
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- Anonymous
  13 Oct 2022 23:24
  is it called grossmesser because it does gross mess?
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- Anonymous
  12 Oct 2022 21:49
  "tha"
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- Daevectus
  11 Oct 2022 22:34
  Ah, hello. Fancy seeing you here, I see you're also based and of good taste.
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- Anonymous
  26 Sep 2022 01:56
  Oh look, a great knife.
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- Anonymous
  22 Sep 2022 21:59
  Stronger than Bandits at max level
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- Anonymous
  09 Sep 2022 21:53
  If people want another farm spot, I found a good one. Go to Caelid Catacombs (the dungeon near the flaming spear knight).
  
  You will know you are in the right dungeon when the first room you see is a scarlet rot floor and some flowers. The messer skeleton is right past those guys. Takes like 10 seconds to get to him from the grace.
  
  I like this spot because while you are trying to get the messer each time you head to him you get two root resins for free.
  
  Got two of them in about an hour. Been messing with them. I can see potential, but they look good and are fun to use. I really like them.
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- Anonymous
  06 Sep 2022 22:53
  This page has the parry AoW available to put on this sword, is that right? I know there is a parry dagger but I've never seen anyone parry with a sword.
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- Anonymous
  19 Aug 2022 01:56
  Like I said jack kids are cruel
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- Anonymous
  18 Aug 2022 21:53
  Not a messer, but I'll take it.
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- Anonymous
  18 Aug 2022 21:47
  Not a messer, but I'll take it.
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- Anonymous
  11 Aug 2022 00:25
  Wtf is this? PKCS can strangle it with just half of its chest hair. Easy
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- Anonymous
  10 Aug 2022 23:29
  excellent for pirate cosplays
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- GremlinMan69
  27 Jul 2022 00:35
  maybe the most normal weapon in the game. even straight sword has the straight sword moveset, which can be pretty ****ed at times. average strength-favored quality weapon, nothing special with damage even at +25. pretty fast, but not claw fast. can be infused with almost every aow in the game for small weapons. the only notable thing about it is how much it blends in with everything else.
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- Divine_Knight
  25 Jul 2022 23:13
  Huhu, a german weapon.
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- Anonymous
  25 Jul 2022 01:39
  Was farming for this in tombsward catacombs for three hours, low level base item discovery, and got nothing. Went out and got a silver-pickled fowl foot, dropped before the first one I used expired.
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- Anonymous
  24 Jul 2022 22:24
  Wish all curved swords still had bleed like in older games. Especially considering katana’s still have it & it helps make up for the fact that slash damage is generally the weakest of the physical damage types.
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- Anonymous
  22 Jul 2022 00:58
  If a Catacombs has skeletons in it, you're practically guaranteed to find at least one of them wielding a Grossmesser. The downside to this distribution is that trying to bag multiple Grossmessers in a single run from any particular Grace is incredibly inconvenient.
  — Courh the Explorer
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- Anonymous
  12 Jul 2022 23:42
  Is the Tombsward Catacombs only place where the skeletons with this sword are or is there any other places where they could be?
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- Anonymous
  11 Jul 2022 23:59
  Got two of these and a scimitar my very first run through Tombsward Catacombs. Never used them
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- Anonymous
  05 Jul 2022 23:52
  There is really no reason to use this over the bandit curve sword. Identical weight, identical length, same moveset, same scaling, lower AR.
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- Anonymous
  04 Jul 2022 00:03
  Ran the dungeon about 5 times for a drop. Knock down the fire thing and get to the room with the 4 skeletons. Reset after clearing that room. There's like 7 or so to kill in the run. Using Golden Epitaph makes the runs really quick and easy.
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- Anonymous
  20 Jun 2022 00:49
  Me, after having spent an hour farming a Beastman’s Cleaver: “this is amazing, heavy infusion plus Lion’s Claw, chef’s fist”
  
  Me, after having spent an hour farming two Noble’s Slenders: “Cold infusion super length proccy proccy proc proc”
  
  Me, after having spent an hour farming two Magma Blade: “tee hee it’s fun loopy fiery fun fun”
  
  Me, after having spent several hours farming two Noble’s Estocs: “they look nice, I suppose!”
  
  Me, after having spent many many hours farming two Grossmessers: “what is this useless garbage [gets a friend to drop me an extra broadsword instead]”
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- Anonymous
  07 Jun 2022 11:26
  Looks like a Talwar
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- Anonymous
  05 Jun 2022 21:13
  "Ewww! You nasty ass Bastard! You ****in Nasty ass Mother ****er that's Nasty man! EWWW!" - FlightReacts (A Popular YouTuber)
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- Anonymous
  03 Jun 2022 13:59
  This is a kilij not a messer. If from is actually gonna put a messer in game they should call it a kreigsmesser(war knife) not grossmesser(great knife).
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- ImminentBeanpole
  02 Jun 2022 18:27
  Is there literally any point in using this over bandit or scavengers apart from Elden Bling? Because it is one of the prettier curved swords. Not sure I can justify giving up the range of my ugly Bandits for it though.
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- Anonymous
  31 May 2022 23:59
  For those who want a curved sword without all the.. curves
  i can respect that desire in a character design
  
  You have my blessings
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- Anonymous
  27 May 2022 22:59
  I really wish there was a Cutlass in this game. Then again, it probably wouldn't be historically accurate for it to be canon. It would probably be like using a Machine gun in Demon's Souls. It just wouldn't be fitting and would be a very bad concept.
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- Anonymous
  25 May 2022 23:03
  Better make a gross messer than a mess grosser.
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- Nobby
  25 May 2022 00:45
  Grossmesser is German for "big knife". Checks out.
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- Anonymous
  19 May 2022 21:29
  It makes gross messer. What more is there to say?
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- Anonymous
  18 May 2022 00:09
  There's one pretty early on in the side entrance in stprmveil on a corpse. No need to grind. Unless there's a rng for those kinda pick ups that I'm unaware of.
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- Anonymous
  17 May 2022 22:21
  Gross...
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- Anonymous
  17 May 2022 02:37
  Didn’t realize this wasn’t a fixed drop. Got it on my first skeleton.
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- Anonymous
  16 May 2022 22:04
  All these ppl posting 'I got 1 give me attention' and not mentioning where it dropped your comments are completely unproductive and useless you offer nothing to the community.
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- Wagaan
  13 May 2022 23:59
  Despite this getting B with heavy ashes, it still outperforms the falchion, which gets A, at 80 strength
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- Anonymous
  10 May 2022 22:23
  farmed it in Tombsward Catacombs, prolly killed 80-100. There are 4-5 in my rute.
  1. behind stonekey fog gate, it can be pulled at the statue without the shield/falcion wearing skelly.
  2. progressing through you get to a bomb throwing skelly. behind the center pillar the skelly raising there has one.
  3. skip and run to the left in the next room with the archers and level above. at the end of the hallway you can see a skelly he has the big knife.
  4. the fire spewing pillar should be downed. run along the left side to you get to a blind end, here 4 skellies vil rise. 2 of them got it i think.
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- Anonymous
  06 May 2022 07:16
  This thing is rare? I got mine on the first skeleton I killed.
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- Anonymous
  04 May 2022 16:47
  Killed 100 of these with silver pickled fowl foot, nothing but a couple of bone shards. I reset the game, dumped all my runes into crafting materials, and then followed this process:
  
  1. Arrive at the Tombsward Catacombs
  2. Kill the target skeleton
  3. Use Memory of Grace (discard all runes and respawn at last visited grace)
  4. Pop Silver Fowl Foot
  5. Kill the target skeleton
  
  I got two in a row using this method. It's possible that this is a "rage quit" prevention thing that From put in? If you lose all your runes, you're rewarded with a hidden higher drop rate on your next kill?
  
  Tried it about 6 times after, couldn't get a third. I guess if it's not repeatable, it's not a thing. :/
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- Anonymous
  29 Apr 2022 22:48
  got it to drop on my first try with 248 discovery. cope
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- Anonymous
  29 Apr 2022 21:09
  Shite weapon. Cursed is a lot better.
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- Anonymous
  29 Apr 2022 21:06
  Shite weapon. Cursed is a lot better.
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  29 Apr 2022 19:39
  Had a chuckle to have a about the name of this because it's literally "big knife" in German
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- Anonymous
  27 Apr 2022 22:43
  just got my second one after about 20 min of farming with 260 item discovery. don’t hate me and good luck everyone.
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- Anonymous
  27 Apr 2022 22:33
  just got my second one after about 20 min of farming with 260 item discovery. don’t hate me and good luck everyone.
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- Anonymous
  27 Apr 2022 11:51
  Got two of them with 80 arcane plus the silver scarab with silver foot within 10 minutes
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  27 Apr 2022 11:51
  Got two of them with 80 arcane plus the silver scarab with silver foot within 10 minutes
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- Anonymous
  26 Apr 2022 22:12
  I think the description is wrong. The skeletons that do not use shield and are rolling have Scimitar. Skeletons without shield and that are not rolling have Grossmesser.
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- Anonymous
  26 Apr 2022 19:48
  Volcanic Manor used to be my favorite area in the game, I tried farming these and I can say that I am entirely bored of how the place looks and sounds.
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- Anonymous
  26 Apr 2022 01:46
  Dang almost there. After I saw this was in the game I was hoping there would also be either a katana or a curved great sword version of the Kriegmessser in the game too. So close, yet so far.
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- Anonymous
  21 Apr 2022 23:54
  Jesus this is rare. I have 300 item discovery and I've been running around the tomb for hours getting no weapons. I'm farming the right skeletons too.
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- CatchTheRainbow
  21 Apr 2022 23:31
  In the Tombsward Catacombs i got two, one on my second try and another in the third try, guess i spent all my luck
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- Anonymous
  20 Apr 2022 04:40
  People saying that this is a quality weapon are wrong, this is a str curved sword
  A Heavy grossmesser with 99 str has a bigger AR (590) than a Quality grossmesser with 50 str and 50 dex (544)
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- Anonymous
  19 Apr 2022 23:51
  Is tombsward the only place to farm these?
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  19 Apr 2022 04:44
  Quality is the best build for this baby. Longer reach than Bandit Curved Sword (hell, perhaps the longest curved sword in the entire game) while having a tiny bit lower AR. Has less weight, too. Highly recommended.
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- Anonymous
  19 Apr 2022 01:51
  The farm isn’t bad at all. I got 2 within an hour and a half. Well I don’t think it’s that bad.
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- EvilUnicornLord
  18 Apr 2022 00:16
  Technically the Bandit's Curved Sword is better BUT Elden Bling is a thing (also slightly less weight so that's nice.)
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- Anonymous
  15 Apr 2022 04:51
  My favorite irl sword is finally in a fs game! Too bad I will never get to use it because of the awful drop rates lol.
  Also the blade is a bit too curved to be a Grossmesser. (Not to say that messers can't be curved like this)
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- Anonymous
  14 Apr 2022 03:21
  Much as I love (actual) Großesmesser, this... Is not it. Love it to death, using a +25 Heavy pair in NG+ I can swap to cold, bloodhound or Seppuku (4 hits on run or jump kinda wild in PvE/PvP), but uhhhh FromSoft goofed. Messers are characterized by knife like handles, this is just a fantasy kiliç (Turkish saber)
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- Anonymous
  14 Apr 2022 02:34
  Strength builds rejoice, this thing is awesome with heavy infusion. Really nice to finish opponents off in pvp rather than trying to hit them for that last little bit with a massive weapon once they inevitably start playing reactive and spam rolling away.
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- Anonymous
  13 Apr 2022 05:55
  I did managed to farm 2 (for powerstancing) with minimum stats in arcane + silver fowled foot. I prepared 6 foots, only used four. Best spot is tombsward catacombs behind the stonesword key wall.
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- Anonymous
  13 Apr 2022 01:45
  recently been collecting all the weapons in this game and stumbled across this one with every comment talking about how long they farmed for. Im so happy that i didnt go through the same pain as everyone else because I happened to get it after maybe 10 runs.
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- Anonymous
  12 Apr 2022 04:34
  got 2 in tombwards catacombs. It took me 4 silver-pickled fowl foot I don't know how many tries in total probably under 30. 15 minutes maybe of farming the stoneward key room. I mean is not bad as they say here
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- Anonymous
  11 Apr 2022 14:05
  This is some pure bladestone **** what the ****
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  11 Apr 2022 14:03
  This is some pure bladestone **** what the ****
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  07 Apr 2022 00:08
  this is the rarest item in the game because after 5 hours still nothing
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- Anonymous
  05 Apr 2022 20:34
  If I want to make bleed build from this weapon at lv.170. What's the stats look like? For PvE
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- Sertorius
  04 Apr 2022 04:41
  Keep in mind that:
  - This is a Strengh-oriented weapon.
  - When farming it on Tombsward Catacombs, at the end of the initial corridor, only the skeleton on the left can drop the weapon (the one that has a shield drios scimitars).
  - Using silver-pickled fowl foot will make the farming process exponentially more doable. It is quicker to go out of your way to craft them.
  - I reccomend using the Sacred Blade ash of war to farm this Item; it will also speed up the process.
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- Anonymous
  04 Apr 2022 03:52
  This isn't a Grossmesser! Length is closer to a Langmesser, and the model clearly doesn't have a full tang. My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined.
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- Anonymous
  01 Apr 2022 04:32
  -Invades your world dual-wielding these
  -Does 4-hit combo with one running L1
  -Refuses to elaborate
  -Leaves
  My sellsword baby is back
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