Grossmesser

Grossmesser

Attack Phy 115 Mag 0 Fire 0 Ligt 0 Holy 0 Crit 100	Guard Phy 46 Mag 34 Fire 34 Ligt 34 Holy 34 Boost 28
Scaling Str D Dex D	Requires Str 14 Dex 12
Curved Sword	Slash
Spinning Slash	FP 6 ( - 12)
Wgt. 4.5	Passive -

Grossmesser is a Curved Sword in Elden Ring. The Grossmesser scales primarily with Dexterity and Strength and is a good Weapon for its Spinning Slash Skill which allows tha player to spin and deal Slash damage to foes in range. This will be ideal for when facing numerous enemies at a time.

Curved sword boasting a large blade.
This weapon is designed to make use of its weight in combination with its sharp cutting edge.

A thoroughly reliable choice of weapon for those who can master its particulars.

Where to Find Grossmesser in Elden Ring

The Grossmesser weapon can be found at the following location:

A possible drop from Skeletons that wield the weapon. For example, this weapon can be dropped by Skeletons in Tombsward Catacombs. The Skeletons that may drop a Grossmesser do not use a shield or a bow, and can be recognized by their rolling move.

Elden Ring Grossmesser Notes & Tips

Weapon Skill: Spinning Slash
This weapon can be infused with Ashes of War.
Grossmesser can be upgraded by using Smithing Stones
Sell Value: 100
Base drop rate is 2% (at 100 Discovery)
Other notes and player tips go here

The Grossmesser can be infused with Ashes of War. Click below for a list of all possible Ashes of War that can be applied to the curved sword.

See usable Ashes of War (click to reveal)

All Affinities

Only Standard, Heavy, Keen, Quality, Fire, and Flame Art

Only Standard, Heavy, Keen, Quality, Lightning, and Sacred

Only Standard, Heavy, Keen, Quality, Magic, and Cold

Only Standard, Heavy, Keen, Quality, Poison, Blood, and Occult

Grossmesser Upgrades in Elden Ring

Please see the Upgrades page to understand the weapon bolstering process.

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Grossmesser Max Upgrades

Overview table for all upgrades at max level. Click on the tabs to see individual upgrade paths.

Grossmesser	Phy	Mag	Fir	Lit	Hol	Sta	Str	Dex	Int	Fai	Arc	Any	Phy	Mag	Fir	Lit	Hol	Bst	Rst
	Attack Power						Stat Scaling					Passive Effects	Damage Reduction (%)
Std+25	281	-	-	-	-	98	C	D	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	33	11
Hvy+25	258	-	-	-	-	98	B	-	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	30	11
Keen+25	258	-	-	-	-	98	E	B	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	30	11
Qua+25	225	-	-	-	-	98	B	B	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	30	11
Fire+25	187	-	187	-	-	98	C	E	-	-	-	-	43.7	32.3	42.5	39.1	32.3	28	10.45
Flame+25	214	-	214	-	-	98	D	E	-	C	-	-	43.7	32.3	42.5	39.1	32.3	28	10.45
Lit+25	187	-	-	187	-	98	E	C	-	-	-	-	43.7	32.3	39.1	42.5	32.3	28	10.45
Sac+25	214	-	-	-	214	98	D	E	-	C	-	-	43.7	39.1	32.3	32.3	42.5	28	10.45
Mag+25	214	214	-	-	-	98	E	E	B	-	-	-	43.7	42.5	32.3	32.3	39.1	28	10.45
Col+25	198	158	-	-	-	98	C	C	C	-	-	(105)	43.7	39.1	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	10.45
Poi+25	236	-	-	-	-	98	C	C	-	-	D	(95)	43.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	11
Blood+25	236	-	-	-	-	98	C	C	-	-	D	(82)	43.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	10.45
Occ+25	247	-	-	-	-	98	D	E	-	-	B	-	46	34	34	34	34	30	11

Grossmesser standard Upgrades

Requires regular reinforcement with Smithing Stone [1], Smithing Stone [2], Smithing Stone [3], Smithing Stone [4], Smithing Stone [5], Smithing Stone [6], Smithing Stone [7], Smithing Stone [8], and Ancient Dragon Smithing Stone.

This upgrade can be enchanted with Magic or boosted with Consumables.

Grossmesser	Phy	Mag	Fir	Lit	Hol	Sta	Str	Dex	Int	Fai	Arc	Any	Phy	Mag	Fir	Lit	Hol	Bst	Rst
	Attack Power						Stat Scaling					Passive Effects	Damage Reduction (%)
Standard	115	-	-	-	-	49	D	D	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	28	11
Standard +1	121	-	-	-	-	50	D	D	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	28	11
Standard +2	128	-	-	-	-	52	D	D	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	28	11
Standard +3	135	-	-	-	-	54	D	D	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	28	11
Standard +4	141	-	-	-	-	56	D	D	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	29	11
Standard +5	148	-	-	-	-	58	D	D	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	29	11
Standard +6	155	-	-	-	-	60	D	D	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	29	11
Standard +7	161	-	-	-	-	62	D	D	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	29	11
Standard +8	168	-	-	-	-	64	D	D	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	30	11
Standard +9	175	-	-	-	-	66	D	D	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	30	11
Standard +10	181	-	-	-	-	68	D	D	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	30	11
Standard +11	188	-	-	-	-	70	D	D	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	31	11
Standard +12	195	-	-	-	-	72	D	D	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	31	11
Standard +13	201	-	-	-	-	74	D	D	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	31	11
Standard +14	208	-	-	-	-	76	C	D	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	31	11
Standard +15	215	-	-	-	-	78	C	D	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	32	11
Standard +16	221	-	-	-	-	80	C	D	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	32	11
Standard +17	228	-	-	-	-	82	C	D	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	32	11
Standard +18	235	-	-	-	-	84	C	D	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	32	11
Standard +19	241	-	-	-	-	86	C	D	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	32	11
Standard +20	248	-	-	-	-	88	C	D	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	33	11
Standard +21	255	-	-	-	-	90	C	D	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	33	11
Standard +22	261	-	-	-	-	92	C	D	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	33	11
Standard +23	268	-	-	-	-	94	C	D	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	33	11
Standard +24	275	-	-	-	-	96	C	D	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	33	11
Standard +25	281	-	-	-	-	98	C	D	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	33	11

Grossmesser Heavy Upgrades

This upgrade can be enchanted with Magic or boosted with Consumables.

Grossmesser	Phy	Mag	Fir	Lit	Hol	Sta	Str	Dex	Int	Fai	Arc	Any	Phy	Mag	Fir	Lit	Hol	Bst	Rst
	Attack Power						Stat Scaling					Passive Effects	Damage Reduction (%)
Heavy	104	-	-	-	-	49	C	-	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	28	11
Heavy +1	110	-	-	-	-	50	C	-	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	28	11
Heavy +2	116	-	-	-	-	52	B	-	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	28	11
Heavy +3	122	-	-	-	-	54	B	-	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	28	11
Heavy +4	129	-	-	-	-	56	B	-	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	28	11
Heavy +5	135	-	-	-	-	58	B	-	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	28	11
Heavy +6	141	-	-	-	-	60	B	-	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	28	11
Heavy +7	147	-	-	-	-	62	B	-	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	29	11
Heavy +8	153	-	-	-	-	64	B	-	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	29	11
Heavy +9	159	-	-	-	-	66	B	-	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	29	11
Heavy +10	166	-	-	-	-	68	B	-	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	29	11
Heavy +11	172	-	-	-	-	70	B	-	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	29	11
Heavy +12	178	-	-	-	-	72	B	-	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	29	11
Heavy +13	184	-	-	-	-	74	B	-	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	29	11
Heavy +14	190	-	-	-	-	76	B	-	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	29	11
Heavy +15	196	-	-	-	-	78	B	-	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	29	11
Heavy +16	203	-	-	-	-	80	B	-	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	29	11
Heavy +17	209	-	-	-	-	82	B	-	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	29	11
Heavy +18	215	-	-	-	-	84	B	-	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	29	11
Heavy +19	221	-	-	-	-	86	B	-	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	30	11
Heavy +20	227	-	-	-	-	88	B	-	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	30	11
Heavy +21	233	-	-	-	-	90	B	-	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	30	11
Heavy +22	240	-	-	-	-	92	B	-	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	30	11
Heavy +23	246	-	-	-	-	94	B	-	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	30	11
Heavy +24	252	-	-	-	-	96	B	-	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	30	11
Heavy +25	258	-	-	-	-	98	B	-	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	30	11

Grossmesser Keen Upgrades

This upgrade can be enchanted with Magic or boosted with Consumables.

Grossmesser	Phy	Mag	Fir	Lit	Hol	Sta	Str	Dex	Int	Fai	Arc	Any	Phy	Mag	Fir	Lit	Hol	Bst	Rst
	Attack Power						Stat Scaling					Passive Effects	Damage Reduction (%)
Keen	104	-	-	-	-	49	E	C	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	28	11
Keen +1	110	-	-	-	-	50	E	C	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	28	11
Keen +2	116	-	-	-	-	52	E	C	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	28	11
Keen +3	122	-	-	-	-	54	E	C	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	28	11
Keen +4	129	-	-	-	-	56	E	C	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	28	11
Keen +5	135	-	-	-	-	58	E	C	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	28	11
Keen +6	141	-	-	-	-	60	E	B	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	28	11
Keen +7	147	-	-	-	-	62	E	B	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	29	11
Keen +8	153	-	-	-	-	64	E	B	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	29	11
Keen +9	159	-	-	-	-	66	E	B	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	29	11
Keen +10	166	-	-	-	-	68	E	B	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	29	11
Keen +11	172	-	-	-	-	70	E	B	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	29	11
Keen +12	178	-	-	-	-	72	E	B	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	29	11
Keen +13	184	-	-	-	-	74	E	B	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	29	11
Keen +14	190	-	-	-	-	76	E	B	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	29	11
Keen +15	196	-	-	-	-	78	E	B	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	29	11
Keen +16	203	-	-	-	-	80	E	B	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	29	11
Keen +17	209	-	-	-	-	82	E	B	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	29	11
Keen +18	215	-	-	-	-	84	E	B	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	29	11
Keen +19	221	-	-	-	-	86	E	B	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	30	11
Keen +20	227	-	-	-	-	88	E	B	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	30	11
Keen +21	233	-	-	-	-	90	E	B	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	30	11
Keen +22	240	-	-	-	-	92	E	B	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	30	11
Keen +23	246	-	-	-	-	94	E	B	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	30	11
Keen +24	252	-	-	-	-	96	E	B	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	30	11
Keen +25	258	-	-	-	-	98	E	B	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	30	11

Grossmesser Quality Upgrades

This upgrade can be enchanted with Magic or boosted with Consumables.

Grossmesser	Phy	Mag	Fir	Lit	Hol	Sta	Str	Dex	Int	Fai	Arc	Any	Phy	Mag	Fir	Lit	Hol	Bst	Rst
	Attack Power						Stat Scaling					Passive Effects	Damage Reduction (%)
Quality	99	-	-	-	-	49	D	D	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	28	11
Quality +1	104	-	-	-	-	50	D	D	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	28	11
Quality +2	109	-	-	-	-	52	C	C	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	28	11
Quality +3	114	-	-	-	-	54	C	C	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	28	11
Quality +4	119	-	-	-	-	56	C	C	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	28	11
Quality +5	124	-	-	-	-	58	C	C	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	28	11
Quality +6	129	-	-	-	-	60	C	C	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	28	11
Quality +7	134	-	-	-	-	62	C	C	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	29	11
Quality +8	139	-	-	-	-	64	C	C	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	29	11
Quality +9	144	-	-	-	-	66	C	C	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	29	11
Quality +10	149	-	-	-	-	68	C	C	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	29	11
Quality +11	154	-	-	-	-	70	C	C	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	29	11
Quality +12	159	-	-	-	-	72	C	C	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	29	11
Quality +13	164	-	-	-	-	74	C	C	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	29	11
Quality +14	169	-	-	-	-	76	B	B	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	29	11
Quality +15	174	-	-	-	-	78	B	B	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	29	11
Quality +16	179	-	-	-	-	80	B	B	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	29	11
Quality +17	185	-	-	-	-	82	B	B	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	29	11
Quality +18	190	-	-	-	-	84	B	B	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	29	11
Quality +19	195	-	-	-	-	86	B	B	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	30	11
Quality +20	200	-	-	-	-	88	B	B	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	30	11
Quality +21	205	-	-	-	-	90	B	B	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	30	11
Quality +22	210	-	-	-	-	92	B	B	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	30	11
Quality +23	215	-	-	-	-	94	B	B	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	30	11
Quality +24	220	-	-	-	-	96	B	B	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	30	11
Quality +25	225	-	-	-	-	98	B	B	-	-	-	-	46	34	34	34	34	30	11

Grossmesser Fire Upgrades

This upgrade can't be enchanted with Magic or boosted with Consumables.

Grossmesser	Phy	Mag	Fir	Lit	Hol	Sta	Str	Dex	Int	Fai	Arc	Any	Phy	Mag	Fir	Lit	Hol	Bst	Rst
	Attack Power						Stat Scaling					Passive Effects	Damage Reduction (%)
Fire	88	-	88	-	-	49	D	E	-	-	-	-	43.7	32.3	39.1	35.7	32.3	28	10.45
Fire +1	91	-	91	-	-	50	D	E	-	-	-	-	43.7	32.3	39.1	35.7	32.3	28	10.45
Fire +2	95	-	95	-	-	52	D	E	-	-	-	-	43.7	32.3	39.44	36.04	32.3	28	10.45
Fire +3	99	-	99	-	-	54	D	E	-	-	-	-	43.7	32.3	39.44	36.04	32.3	28	10.45
Fire +4	103	-	103	-	-	56	D	E	-	-	-	-	43.7	32.3	39.78	36.38	32.3	28	10.45
Fire +5	107	-	107	-	-	58	D	E	-	-	-	-	43.7	32.3	39.78	36.38	32.3	28	10.45
Fire +6	111	-	111	-	-	60	D	E	-	-	-	-	43.7	32.3	40.12	36.72	32.3	28	10.45
Fire +7	115	-	115	-	-	62	D	E	-	-	-	-	43.7	32.3	40.12	36.72	32.3	28	10.45
Fire +8	119	-	119	-	-	64	D	E	-	-	-	-	43.7	32.3	40.46	37.06	32.3	28	10.45
Fire +9	123	-	123	-	-	66	D	E	-	-	-	-	43.7	32.3	40.46	37.06	32.3	28	10.45
Fire +10	127	-	127	-	-	68	D	E	-	-	-	-	43.7	32.3	40.8	37.4	32.3	28	10.45
Fire +11	131	-	131	-	-	70	D	E	-	-	-	-	43.7	32.3	40.8	37.4	32.3	28	10.45
Fire +12	135	-	135	-	-	72	D	E	-	-	-	-	43.7	32.3	41.14	37.74	32.3	28	10.45
Fire +13	139	-	139	-	-	74	C	E	-	-	-	-	43.7	32.3	41.14	37.74	32.3	28	10.45
Fire +14	143	-	143	-	-	76	C	E	-	-	-	-	43.7	32.3	41.14	37.74	32.3	28	10.45
Fire +15	147	-	147	-	-	78	C	E	-	-	-	-	43.7	32.3	41.48	38.08	32.3	28	10.45
Fire +16	151	-	151	-	-	80	C	E	-	-	-	-	43.7	32.3	41.48	38.08	32.3	28	10.45
Fire +17	155	-	155	-	-	82	C	E	-	-	-	-	43.7	32.3	41.48	38.08	32.3	28	10.45
Fire +18	159	-	159	-	-	84	C	E	-	-	-	-	43.7	32.3	41.82	38.42	32.3	28	10.45
Fire +19	163	-	163	-	-	86	C	E	-	-	-	-	43.7	32.3	41.82	38.42	32.3	28	10.45
Fire +20	167	-	167	-	-	88	C	E	-	-	-	-	43.7	32.3	41.82	38.42	32.3	28	10.45
Fire +21	171	-	171	-	-	90	C	E	-	-	-	-	43.7	32.3	42.16	38.76	32.3	28	10.45
Fire +22	175	-	175	-	-	92	C	E	-	-	-	-	43.7	32.3	42.16	38.76	32.3	28	10.45
Fire +23	179	-	179	-	-	94	C	E	-	-	-	-	43.7	32.3	42.16	38.76	32.3	28	10.45
Fire +24	183	-	183	-	-	96	C	E	-	-	-	-	43.7	32.3	42.16	38.76	32.3	28	10.45
Fire +25	187	-	187	-	-	98	C	E	-	-	-	-	43.7	32.3	42.5	39.1	32.3	28	10.45

Grossmesser Flame Upgrades

This upgrade can't be enchanted with Magic or boosted with Consumables.

Grossmesser	Phy	Mag	Fir	Lit	Hol	Sta	Str	Dex	Int	Fai	Arc	Any	Phy	Mag	Fir	Lit	Hol	Bst	Rst
	Attack Power						Stat Scaling					Passive Effects	Damage Reduction (%)
Flame	93	-	93	-	-	49	E	E	-	D	-	-	43.7	32.3	39.1	35.7	32.3	28	10.45
Flame +1	98	-	98	-	-	50	E	E	-	D	-	-	43.7	32.3	39.1	35.7	32.3	28	10.45
Flame +2	103	-	103	-	-	52	E	E	-	D	-	-	43.7	32.3	39.44	36.04	32.3	28	10.45
Flame+3	108	-	108	-	-	54	E	E	-	D	-	-	43.7	32.3	39.44	36.04	32.3	28	10.45
Flame +4	112	-	112	-	-	56	E	E	-	D	-	-	43.7	32.3	39.78	36.38	32.3	28	10.45
Flame +5	117	-	117	-	-	58	E	E	-	D	-	-	43.7	32.3	39.78	36.38	32.3	28	10.45
Flame +6	122	-	122	-	-	60	E	E	-	D	-	-	43.7	32.3	40.12	36.72	32.3	28	10.45
Flame +7	127	-	127	-	-	62	E	E	-	D	-	-	43.7	32.3	40.12	36.72	32.3	28	10.45
Flame +8	132	-	132	-	-	64	E	E	-	D	-	-	43.7	32.3	40.46	37.06	32.3	28	10.45
Flame +9	137	-	137	-	-	66	E	E	-	C	-	-	43.7	32.3	40.46	37.06	32.3	28	10.45
Flame +10	141	-	141	-	-	68	E	E	-	C	-	-	43.7	32.3	40.8	37.4	32.3	28	10.45
Flame +11	146	-	146	-	-	70	E	E	-	C	-	-	43.7	32.3	40.8	37.4	32.3	28	10.45
Flame +12	151	-	151	-	-	72	E	E	-	C	-	-	43.7	32.3	41.14	37.74	32.3	28	10.45
Flame +13	156	-	156	-	-	74	E	E	-	C	-	-	43.7	32.3	41.14	37.74	32.3	28	10.45
Flame +14	161	-	161	-	-	76	E	E	-	C	-	-	43.7	32.3	41.14	37.74	32.3	28	10.45
Flame +15	166	-	166	-	-	78	E	E	-	C	-	-	43.7	32.3	41.48	38.08	32.3	28	10.45
Flame +16	170	-	170	-	-	80	E	E	-	C	-	-	43.7	32.3	41.48	38.08	32.3	28	10.45
Flame +17	175	-	175	-	-	82	E	E	-	C	-	-	43.7	32.3	41.48	38.08	32.3	28	10.45
Flame +18	180	-	180	-	-	84	E	E	-	C	-	-	43.7	32.3	41.82	38.42	32.3	28	10.45
Flame +19	185	-	185	-	-	86	E	E	-	C	-	-	43.7	32.3	41.82	38.42	32.3	28	10.45
Flame +20	190	-	190	-	-	88	E	E	-	C	-	-	43.7	32.3	41.82	38.42	32.3	28	10.45
Flame +21	195	-	195	-	-	90	E	E	-	C	-	-	43.7	32.3	42.16	38.76	32.3	28	10.45
Flame +22	199	-	199	-	-	92	E	E	-	C	-	-	43.7	32.3	42.16	38.76	32.3	28	10.45
Flame +23	204	-	204	-	-	94	E	E	-	C	-	-	43.7	32.3	42.16	38.76	32.3	28	10.45
Flame +24	209	-	209	-	-	96	E	E	-	C	-	-	43.7	32.3	42.16	38.76	32.3	28	10.45
Flame +25	214	-	214	-	-	98	D	E	-	C	-	-	43.7	32.3	42.5	39.1	32.3	28	10.45

Grossmesser Lightning Upgrades

This upgrade can't be enchanted with Magic or boosted with Consumables.

Grossmesser	Phy	Mag	Fir	Lit	Hol	Sta	Str	Dex	Int	Fai	Arc	Any	Phy	Mag	Fir	Lit	Hol	Bst	Rst
	Attack Power						Stat Scaling					Passive Effects	Damage Reduction (%)
Lightning	88	-	-	88	-	49	E	D	-	-	-	-	43.7	32.3	35.7	39.1	32.3	28	10.45
Lightning +1	91	-	-	91	-	50	E	D	-	-	-	-	43.7	32.3	35.7	39.1	32.3	28	10.45
Lightning +2	95	-	-	95	-	52	E	D	-	-	-	-	43.7	32.3	36.04	39.44	32.3	28	10.45
Lightning +3	99	-	-	99	-	54	E	D	-	-	-	-	43.7	32.3	36.04	39.44	32.3	28	10.45
Lightning +4	103	-	-	103	-	56	E	D	-	-	-	-	43.7	32.3	36.38	39.78	32.3	28	10.45
Lightning +5	107	-	-	107	-	58	E	D	-	-	-	-	43.7	32.3	36.38	39.78	32.3	28	10.45
Lightning +6	111	-	-	111	-	60	E	D	-	-	-	-	43.7	32.3	36.72	40.12	32.3	28	10.45
Lightning +7	115	-	-	115	-	62	E	D	-	-	-	-	43.7	32.3	36.72	40.12	32.3	28	10.45
Lightning +8	119	-	-	119	-	64	E	D	-	-	-	-	43.7	32.3	37.06	40.46	32.3	28	10.45
Lightning +9	123	-	-	123	-	66	E	D	-	-	-	-	43.7	32.3	37.06	40.46	32.3	28	10.45
Lightning +10	127	-	-	127	-	68	E	D	-	-	-	-	43.7	32.3	37.4	40.8	32.3	28	10.45
Lightning +11	131	-	-	131	-	70	E	D	-	-	-	-	43.7	32.3	37.4	40.8	32.3	28	10.45
Lightning +12	135	-	-	135	-	72	E	D	-	-	-	-	43.7	32.3	37.74	41.14	32.3	28	10.45
Lightning +13	139	-	-	139	-	74	E	C	-	-	-	-	43.7	32.3	37.74	41.14	32.3	28	10.45
Lightning +14	143	-	-	143	-	76	E	C	-	-	-	-	43.7	32.3	37.74	41.14	32.3	28	10.45
Lightning +15	147	-	-	147	-	78	E	C	-	-	-	-	43.7	32.3	38.08	41.48	32.3	28	10.45
Lightning +16	151	-	-	151	-	80	E	C	-	-	-	-	43.7	32.3	38.08	41.48	32.3	28	10.45
Lightning +17	155	-	-	155	-	82	E	C	-	-	-	-	43.7	32.3	38.08	41.48	32.3	28	10.45
Lightning +18	159	-	-	159	-	84	E	C	-	-	-	-	43.7	32.3	38.42	41.82	32.3	28	10.45
Lightning +19	163	-	-	163	-	86	E	C	-	-	-	-	43.7	32.3	38.42	41.82	32.3	28	10.45
Lightning +20	167	-	-	167	-	88	E	C	-	-	-	-	43.7	32.3	38.42	41.82	32.3	28	10.45
Lightning +21	171	-	-	171	-	90	E	C	-	-	-	-	43.7	32.3	38.76	42.16	32.3	28	10.45
Lightning +22	175	-	-	175	-	92	E	C	-	-	-	-	43.7	32.3	38.76	42.16	32.3	28	10.45
Lightning +23	179	-	-	179	-	94	E	C	-	-	-	-	43.7	32.3	38.76	42.16	32.3	28	10.45
Lightning +24	183	-	-	183	-	96	E	C	-	-	-	-	43.7	32.3	38.76	42.16	32.3	28	10.45
Lightning +25	187	-	-	187	-	98	E	C	-	-	-	-	43.7	32.3	39.1	42.5	32.3	28	10.45

Grossmesser Sacred Upgrades

This upgrade can't be enchanted with Magic or boosted with Consumables.

Grossmesser	Phy	Mag	Fir	Lit	Hol	Sta	Str	Dex	Int	Fai	Arc	Any	Phy	Mag	Fir	Lit	Hol	Bst	Rst
	Attack Power						Stat Scaling					Passive Effects	Damage Reduction (%)
Sacred	82	-	-	-	82	49	E	E	-	D	-	-	43.7	35.7	32.3	32.3	39.1	28	10.45
Sacred +1	87	-	-	-	87	50	E	E	-	D	-	-	43.7	35.7	32.3	32.3	39.1	28	10.45
Sacred +2	93	-	-	-	93	52	E	E	-	D	-	-	43.7	36.04	32.3	32.3	39.44	28	10.45
Sacred +3	98	-	-	-	98	54	E	E	-	D	-	-	43.7	36.04	32.3	32.3	39.44	28	10.45
Sacred +4	103	-	-	-	103	56	E	E	-	D	-	-	43.7	36.38	32.3	32.3	39.78	28	10.45
Sacred +5	108	-	-	-	108	58	E	E	-	D	-	-	43.7	36.38	32.3	32.3	39.78	28	10.45
Sacred +6	114	-	-	-	114	60	E	E	-	D	-	-	43.7	36.72	32.3	32.3	40.12	28	10.45
Sacred +7	119	-	-	-	119	62	E	E	-	D	-	-	43.7	36.72	32.3	32.3	40.12	28	10.45
Sacred +8	124	-	-	-	124	64	E	E	-	D	-	-	43.7	37.06	32.3	32.3	40.46	28	10.45
Sacred +9	130	-	-	-	130	66	E	E	-	C	-	-	43.7	37.06	32.3	32.3	40.46	28	10.45
Sacred +10	135	-	-	-	135	68	E	E	-	C	-	-	43.7	37.4	32.3	32.3	40.8	28	10.45
Sacred +11	140	-	-	-	140	70	E	E	-	C	-	-	43.7	37.4	32.3	32.3	40.8	28	10.45
Sacred +12	145	-	-	-	145	72	E	E	-	C	-	-	43.7	37.74	32.3	32.3	41.14	28	10.45
Sacred +13	151	-	-	-	151	74	E	E	-	C	-	-	43.7	37.74	32.3	32.3	41.14	28	10.45
Sacred +14	156	-	-	-	156	76	E	E	-	C	-	-	43.7	37.74	32.3	32.3	41.14	28	10.45
Sacred +15	161	-	-	-	161	78	E	E	-	C	-	-	43.7	38.08	32.3	32.3	41.48	28	10.45
Sacred +16	166	-	-	-	166	80	E	E	-	C	-	-	43.7	38.08	32.3	32.3	41.48	28	10.45
Sacred +17	172	-	-	-	172	82	E	E	-	C	-	-	43.7	38.08	32.3	32.3	41.48	28	10.45
Sacred +18	177	-	-	-	177	84	E	E	-	C	-	-	43.7	38.42	32.3	32.3	41.82	28	10.45
Sacred +19	182	-	-	-	182	86	E	E	-	C	-	-	43.7	38.42	32.3	32.3	41.82	28	10.45
Sacred +20	188	-	-	-	188	88	E	E	-	C	-	-	43.7	38.42	32.3	32.3	41.82	28	10.45
Sacred +21	193	-	-	-	193	90	E	E	-	C	-	-	43.7	38.76	32.3	32.3	42.16	28	10.45
Sacred +22	198	-	-	-	198	92	E	E	-	C	-	-	43.7	38.76	32.3	32.3	42.16	28	10.45
Sacred +23	203	-	-	-	203	94	E	E	-	C	-	-	43.7	38.76	32.3	32.3	42.16	28	10.45
Sacred +24	209	-	-	-	209	96	E	E	-	C	-	-	43.7	38.76	32.3	32.3	42.16	28	10.45
Sacred +25	214	-	-	-	214	98	D	E	-	C	-	-	43.7	39.1	32.3	32.3	42.5	28	10.45

Grossmesser Magic Upgrades

This upgrade can't be enchanted with Magic or boosted with Consumables.

Grossmesser	Phy	Mag	Fir	Lit	Hol	Sta	Str	Dex	Int	Fai	Arc	Any	Phy	Mag	Fir	Lit	Hol	Bst	Rst
	Attack Power						Stat Scaling					Passive Effects	Damage Reduction (%)
Magic	82	82	-	-	-	49	E	E	D	-	-	-	43.7	39.1	32.3	32.3	35.7	28	10.45
Magic +1	87	87	-	-	-	50	E	E	D	-	-	-	43.7	39.1	32.3	32.3	35.7	28	10.45
Magic +2	93	93	-	-	-	52	E	E	D	-	-	-	43.7	39.44	32.3	32.3	36.04	28	10.45
Magic +3	98	98	-	-	-	54	E	E	D	-	-	-	43.7	39.44	32.3	32.3	36.04	28	10.45
Magic +4	103	103	-	-	-	56	E	E	D	-	-	-	43.7	39.78	32.3	32.3	36.38	28	10.45
Magic +5	108	108	-	-	-	58	E	E	D	-	-	-	43.7	39.78	32.3	32.3	36.38	28	10.45
Magic +6	114	114	-	-	-	60	E	E	D	-	-	-	43.7	40.12	32.3	32.3	36.72	28	10.45
Magic +7	119	119	-	-	-	62	E	E	C	-	-	-	43.7	40.12	32.3	32.3	36.72	28	10.45
Magic +8	124	124	-	-	-	64	E	E	C	-	-	-	43.7	40.46	32.3	32.3	37.06	28	10.45
Magic +9	130	130	-	-	-	66	E	E	C	-	-	-	43.7	40.46	32.3	32.3	37.06	28	10.45
Magic +10	135	135	-	-	-	68	E	E	C	-	-	-	43.7	40.8	32.3	32.3	37.4	28	10.45
Magic +11	140	140	-	-	-	70	E	E	C	-	-	-	43.7	40.8	32.3	32.3	37.4	28	10.45
Magic +12	145	145	-	-	-	72	E	E	C	-	-	-	43.7	41.14	32.3	32.3	37.74	28	10.45
Magic +13	151	151	-	-	-	74	E	E	C	-	-	-	43.7	41.14	32.3	32.3	37.74	28	10.45
Magic +14	156	156	-	-	-	76	E	E	C	-	-	-	43.7	41.14	32.3	32.3	37.74	28	10.45
Magic +15	161	161	-	-	-	78	E	E	C	-	-	-	43.7	41.48	32.3	32.3	38.08	28	10.45
Magic +16	166	166	-	-	-	80	E	E	C	-	-	-	43.7	41.48	32.3	32.3	38.08	28	10.45
Magic +17	172	172	-	-	-	82	E	E	C	-	-	-	43.7	41.48	32.3	32.3	38.08	28	10.45
Magic +18	177	177	-	-	-	84	E	E	C	-	-	-	43.7	41.82	32.3	32.3	38.42	28	10.45
Magic +19	182	182	-	-	-	86	E	E	C	-	-	-	43.7	41.82	32.3	32.3	38.42	28	10.45
Magic +20	188	188	-	-	-	88	E	E	B	-	-	-	43.7	41.82	32.3	32.3	38.42	28	10.45
Magic +21	193	193	-	-	-	90	E	E	B	-	-	-	43.7	42.16	32.3	32.3	38.76	28	10.45
Magic +22	198	198	-	-	-	92	E	E	B	-	-	-	43.7	42.16	32.3	32.3	38.76	28	10.45
Magic +23	203	203	-	-	-	94	E	E	B	-	-	-	43.7	42.16	32.3	32.3	38.76	28	10.45
Magic +24	209	209	-	-	-	96	E	E	B	-	-	-	43.7	42.16	32.3	32.3	38.76	28	10.45
Magic +25	214	214	-	-	-	98	E	E	B	-	-	-	43.7	42.5	32.3	32.3	39.1	28	10.45

Grossmesser Cold Upgrades

This upgrade can't be enchanted with Magic or boosted with Consumables.

Grossmesser	Phy	Mag	Fir	Lit	Hol	Sta	Str	Dex	Int	Fai	Arc	Any	Phy	Mag	Fir	Lit	Hol	Bst	Rst
	Attack Power						Stat Scaling					Passive Effects	Damage Reduction (%)
Cold	93	74	-	-	-	49	D	D	D	-	-	(66)	43.7	35.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	10.45
Cold +1	97	78	-	-	-	50	D	D	D	-	-	(67)	43.7	35.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	10.45
Cold +2	101	81	-	-	-	52	D	D	D	-	-	(69)	43.7	36.04	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	10.45
Cold +3	106	84	-	-	-	54	D	D	D	-	-	(70)	43.7	36.04	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	10.45
Cold +4	110	88	-	-	-	56	D	D	D	-	-	(72)	43.7	36.38	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	10.45
Cold +5	114	91	-	-	-	58	D	D	D	-	-	(73)	43.7	36.38	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	10.45
Cold +6	118	94	-	-	-	60	D	D	D	-	-	(75)	43.7	36.72	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	10.45
Cold +7	122	98	-	-	-	62	D	D	D	-	-	(77)	43.7	36.72	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	10.45
Cold +8	126	101	-	-	-	64	D	D	D	-	-	(78)	43.7	37.06	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	10.45
Cold +9	131	104	-	-	-	66	C	D	D	-	-	(80)	43.7	37.06	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	10.45
Cold +10	135	108	-	-	-	68	C	D	D	-	-	(81)	43.7	37.06	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	10.45
Cold +11	139	111	-	-	-	70	C	D	C	-	-	(83)	43.7	37.4	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	10.45
Cold +12	143	114	-	-	-	72	C	D	C	-	-	(85)	43.7	37.4	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	10.45
Cold +13	147	118	-	-	-	74	C	D	C	-	-	(86)	43.7	37.4	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	10.45
Cold +14	152	121	-	-	-	76	C	D	C	-	-	(88)	43.7	37.74	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	10.45
Cold +15	156	124	-	-	-	78	C	D	C	-	-	(89)	43.7	37.74	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	10.45
Cold +16	160	128	-	-	-	80	C	D	C	-	-	(91)	43.7	38.08	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	10.45
Cold +17	164	131	-	-	-	82	C	D	C	-	-	(92)	43.7	38.08	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	10.45
Cold +18	168	134	-	-	-	84	C	D	C	-	-	(94)	43.7	38.08	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	10.45
Cold +19	172	138	-	-	-	86	C	D	C	-	-	(96)	43.7	38.42	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	10.45
Cold +20	177	141	-	-	-	88	C	D	C	-	-	(97)	43.7	38.42	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	10.45
Cold +21	181	145	-	-	-	90	C	D	C	-	-	(99)	43.7	38.42	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	10.45
Cold +22	185	148	-	-	-	92	C	D	C	-	-	(100)	43.7	38.76	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	10.45
Cold +23	189	151	-	-	-	94	C	D	C	-	-	(102)	43.7	38.76	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	10.45
Cold +24	193	155	-	-	-	96	C	C	C	-	-	(104)	43.7	38.76	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	10.45
Cold +25	198	158	-	-	-	98	C	C	C	-	-	(105)	43.7	39.1	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	10.45

Grossmesser Poison Upgrades

Elden Ring display values for poison and blood include buildup added by scaling via the Arcane Stat. The values on this table reflect the default values only. Your own Arcane Scaling will alter the number while inside the game. If you don't meet the arcane requirements for an arcane-scaling passive then buildup will show as 60% of the base values.

This upgrade can't be enchanted with Magic or boosted with Consumables.

Grossmesser	Phy	Mag	Fir	Lit	Hol	Sta	Str	Dex	Int	Fai	Arc	Any	Phy	Mag	Fir	Lit	Hol	Bst	Rst
	Attack Power						Stat Scaling					Passive Effects	Damage Reduction (%)
Poison	93	-	-	-	-	49	D	D	-	-	D	(66)	43.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	11
Poison +1	99	-	-	-	-	50	D	D	-	-	D	(67)	43.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	11
Poison +2	104	-	-	-	-	52	D	D	-	-	D	(68)	43.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	11
Poison +3	110	-	-	-	-	54	D	D	-	-	D	(69)	43.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	11
Poison +4	116	-	-	-	-	56	D	D	-	-	D	(70)	43.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	11
Poison +5	122	-	-	-	-	58	D	D	-	-	D	(71)	43.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	11
Poison +6	127	-	-	-	-	60	D	D	-	-	D	(73)	43.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	11
Poison +7	133	-	-	-	-	62	D	D	-	-	D	(74)	43.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	11
Poison +8	139	-	-	-	-	64	D	D	-	-	D	(75)	43.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	11
Poison +9	144	-	-	-	-	66	D	D	-	-	D	(76)	43.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	11
Poison +10	150	-	-	-	-	68	C	D	-	-	D	(77)	43.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	11
Poison +11	156	-	-	-	-	70	C	D	-	-	D	(79)	43.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	11
Poison +12	162	-	-	-	-	72	C	D	-	-	D	(80)	43.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	11
Poison +13	167	-	-	-	-	74	C	D	-	-	D	(81)	43.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	11
Poison +14	173	-	-	-	-	76	C	D	-	-	D	(82)	43.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	11
Poison +15	179	-	-	-	-	78	C	D	-	-	D	(83)	43.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	11
Poison +16	185	-	-	-	-	80	C	D	-	-	D	(85)	43.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	11
Poison +17	190	-	-	-	-	82	C	D	-	-	D	(86)	43.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	11
Poison +18	196	-	-	-	-	84	C	D	-	-	D	(87)	43.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	11
Poison +19	202	-	-	-	-	86	C	D	-	-	D	(88)	43.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	11
Poison +20	207	-	-	-	-	88	C	D	-	-	D	(89)	43.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	11
Poison +21	213	-	-	-	-	90	C	D	-	-	D	(90)	43.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	11
Poison +22	219	-	-	-	-	92	C	C	-	-	D	(92)	43.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	11
Poison +23	225	-	-	-	-	94	C	C	-	-	D	(93)	43.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	11
Poison +24	230	-	-	-	-	96	C	C	-	-	D	(94)	43.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	11
Poison +25	236	-	-	-	-	98	C	C	-	-	D	(95)	43.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	11

Grossmesser Blood Upgrades

This upgrade can't be enchanted with Magic or boosted with Consumables.

Grossmesser	Phy	Mag	Fir	Lit	Hol	Sta	Str	Dex	Int	Fai	Arc	Any	Phy	Mag	Fir	Lit	Hol	Bst	Rst
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Blood	93	-	-	-	-	49	D	D	-	-	D	(57)	43.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	10.45
Blood +1	99	-	-	-	-	50	D	D	-	-	D	(58)	43.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	10.45
Blood +2	104	-	-	-	-	52	D	D	-	-	D	(59)	43.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	10.45
Blood +3	110	-	-	-	-	54	D	D	-	-	D	(60)	43.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	10.45
Blood +4	116	-	-	-	-	56	D	D	-	-	D	(61)	43.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	10.45
Blood +5	122	-	-	-	-	58	D	D	-	-	D	(62)	43.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	10.45
Blood +6	127	-	-	-	-	60	D	D	-	-	D	(63)	43.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	10.45
Blood +7	133	-	-	-	-	62	D	D	-	-	D	(64)	43.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	10.45
Blood +8	139	-	-	-	-	64	D	D	-	-	D	(65)	43.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	10.45
Blood +9	144	-	-	-	-	66	D	D	-	-	D	(66)	43.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	10.45
Blood +10	150	-	-	-	-	68	C	D	-	-	D	(67)	43.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	10.45
Blood +11	156	-	-	-	-	70	C	D	-	-	D	(68)	43.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	10.45
Blood +12	162	-	-	-	-	72	C	D	-	-	D	(69)	43.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	10.45
Blood +13	167	-	-	-	-	74	C	D	-	-	D	(70)	43.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	10.45
Blood +14	173	-	-	-	-	76	C	D	-	-	D	(71)	43.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	10.45
Blood +15	179	-	-	-	-	78	C	D	-	-	D	(72)	43.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	10.45
Blood +16	185	-	-	-	-	80	C	D	-	-	D	(73)	43.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	10.45
Blood +17	190	-	-	-	-	82	C	D	-	-	D	(74)	43.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	10.45
Blood +18	196	-	-	-	-	84	C	D	-	-	D	(75)	43.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	10.45
Blood +19	202	-	-	-	-	86	C	D	-	-	D	(76)	43.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	10.45
Blood +20	207	-	-	-	-	88	C	D	-	-	D	(77)	43.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	10.45
Blood +21	213	-	-	-	-	90	C	D	-	-	D	(78)	43.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	10.45
Blood +22	219	-	-	-	-	92	C	C	-	-	D	(79)	43.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	10.45
Blood +23	225	-	-	-	-	94	C	C	-	-	D	(80)	43.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	10.45
Blood +24	230	-	-	-	-	96	C	C	-	-	D	(81)	43.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	10.45
Blood +25	236	-	-	-	-	98	C	C	-	-	D	(82)	43.7	32.3	32.3	32.3	32.3	28	10.45

Grossmesser Occult Upgrades

This upgrade can't be enchanted with Magic or boosted with Consumables.

Grossmesser	Phy	Mag	Fir	Lit	Hol	Sta	Str	Dex	Int	Fai	Arc	Any	Phy	Mag	Fir	Lit	Hol	Bst	Rst
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Occult	99	-	-	-	-	49	E	E	-	-	C	-	46	34	34	34	34	28	11
Occult +1	104	-	-	-	-	50	E	E	-	-	C	-	46	34	34	34	34	28	11
Occult +2	110	-	-	-	-	52	E	E	-	-	C	-	46	34	34	34	34	28	11
Occult +3	116	-	-	-	-	54	E	E	-	-	C	-	46	34	34	34	34	28	11
Occult +4	122	-	-	-	-	56	E	E	-	-	C	-	46	34	34	34	34	28	11
Occult +5	128	-	-	-	-	58	E	E	-	-	C	-	46	34	34	34	34	28	11
Occult +6	134	-	-	-	-	60	E	E	-	-	C	-	46	34	34	34	34	28	11
Occult +7	140	-	-	-	-	62	E	E	-	-	C	-	46	34	34	34	34	29	11
Occult +8	146	-	-	-	-	64	E	E	-	-	B	-	46	34	34	34	34	29	11
Occult +9	152	-	-	-	-	66	E	E	-	-	B	-	46	34	34	34	34	29	11
Occult +10	158	-	-	-	-	68	E	E	-	-	B	-	46	34	34	34	34	29	11
Occult +11	164	-	-	-	-	70	E	E	-	-	B	-	46	34	34	34	34	29	11
Occult +12	170	-	-	-	-	72	E	E	-	-	B	-	46	34	34	34	34	29	11
Occult +13	176	-	-	-	-	74	E	E	-	-	B	-	46	34	34	34	34	29	11
Occult +14	182	-	-	-	-	76	E	E	-	-	B	-	46	34	34	34	34	29	11
Occult +15	188	-	-	-	-	78	E	E	-	-	B	-	46	34	34	34	34	29	11
Occult +16	194	-	-	-	-	80	E	E	-	-	B	-	46	34	34	34	34	29	11
Occult +17	199	-	-	-	-	82	E	E	-	-	B	-	46	34	34	34	34	29	11
Occult +18	205	-	-	-	-	84	E	E	-	-	B	-	46	34	34	34	34	29	11
Occult +19	211	-	-	-	-	86	E	E	-	-	B	-	46	34	34	34	34	30	11
Occult +20	217	-	-	-	-	88	D	E	-	-	B	-	46	34	34	34	34	30	11
Occult +21	223	-	-	-	-	90	D	E	-	-	B	-	46	34	34	34	34	30	11
Occult +22	229	-	-	-	-	92	D	E	-	-	B	-	46	34	34	34	34	30	11
Occult +23	235	-	-	-	-	94	D	E	-	-	B	-	46	34	34	34	34	30	11
Occult +24	241	-	-	-	-	96	D	E	-	-	B	-	46	34	34	34	34	30	11
Occult +25	247	-	-	-	-	98	D	E	-	-	B	-	46	34	34	34	34	30	11

Elden Ring Curved Swords
Bandit's Curved Sword ♦ Beastman's Curved Sword ♦ Falchion ♦ Flowing Curved Sword ♦ Magma Blade ♦ Mantis Blade ♦ Nox Flowing Sword ♦ Scavenger's Curved Sword ♦ Scimitar ♦ Serpent-God's Curved Sword ♦ Shamshir ♦ Shotel ♦ Wing of Astel

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- Anonymous
  20 Jun 2022 00:49
  Me, after having spent an hour farming a Beastman’s Cleaver: “this is amazing, heavy infusion plus Lion’s Claw, chef’s fist”
  
  Me, after having spent an hour farming two Noble’s Slenders: “Cold infusion super length proccy proccy proc proc”
  
  Me, after having spent an hour farming two Magma Blade: “tee hee it’s fun loopy fiery fun fun”
  
  Me, after having spent several hours farming two Noble’s Estocs: “they look nice, I suppose!”
  
  Me, after having spent many many hours farming two Grossmessers: “what is this useless garbage [gets a friend to drop me an extra broadsword instead]”
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- Anonymous
  07 Jun 2022 11:26
  Looks like a Talwar
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- Anonymous
  05 Jun 2022 21:13
  "Ewww! You nasty ass Bastard! You ****in Nasty ass Mother ****er that's Nasty man! EWWW!" - FlightReacts (A Popular YouTuber)
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- Anonymous
  03 Jun 2022 13:59
  This is a kilij not a messer. If from is actually gonna put a messer in game they should call it a kreigsmesser(war knife) not grossmesser(great knife).
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- ImminentBeanpole
  02 Jun 2022 18:27
  Is there literally any point in using this over bandit or scavengers apart from Elden Bling? Because it is one of the prettier curved swords. Not sure I can justify giving up the range of my ugly Bandits for it though.
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- Anonymous
  31 May 2022 23:59
  For those who want a curved sword without all the.. curves
  i can respect that desire in a character design
  
  You have my blessings
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- Anonymous
  27 May 2022 22:59
  I really wish there was a Cutlass in this game. Then again, it probably wouldn't be historically accurate for it to be canon. It would probably be like using a Machine gun in Demon's Souls. It just wouldn't be fitting and would be a very bad concept.
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- Anonymous
  25 May 2022 23:03
  Better make a gross messer than a mess grosser.
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- Nobby
  25 May 2022 00:45
  Grossmesser is German for "big knife". Checks out.
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- Anonymous
  19 May 2022 21:29
  It makes gross messer. What more is there to say?
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- Anonymous
  18 May 2022 00:09
  There's one pretty early on in the side entrance in stprmveil on a corpse. No need to grind. Unless there's a rng for those kinda pick ups that I'm unaware of.
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- Anonymous
  17 May 2022 22:21
  Gross...
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- Anonymous
  17 May 2022 02:37
  Didn’t realize this wasn’t a fixed drop. Got it on my first skeleton.
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- Anonymous
  16 May 2022 22:04
  All these ppl posting 'I got 1 give me attention' and not mentioning where it dropped your comments are completely unproductive and useless you offer nothing to the community.
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- Wagaan
  13 May 2022 23:59
  Despite this getting B with heavy ashes, it still outperforms the falchion, which gets A, at 80 strength
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- Anonymous
  10 May 2022 22:23
  farmed it in Tombsward Catacombs, prolly killed 80-100. There are 4-5 in my rute.
  1. behind stonekey fog gate, it can be pulled at the statue without the shield/falcion wearing skelly.
  2. progressing through you get to a bomb throwing skelly. behind the center pillar the skelly raising there has one.
  3. skip and run to the left in the next room with the archers and level above. at the end of the hallway you can see a skelly he has the big knife.
  4. the fire spewing pillar should be downed. run along the left side to you get to a blind end, here 4 skellies vil rise. 2 of them got it i think.
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- Anonymous
  06 May 2022 07:16
  This thing is rare? I got mine on the first skeleton I killed.
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- Anonymous
  04 May 2022 16:47
  Killed 100 of these with silver pickled fowl foot, nothing but a couple of bone shards. I reset the game, dumped all my runes into crafting materials, and then followed this process:
  
  1. Arrive at the Tombsward Catacombs
  2. Kill the target skeleton
  3. Use Memory of Grace (discard all runes and respawn at last visited grace)
  4. Pop Silver Fowl Foot
  5. Kill the target skeleton
  
  I got two in a row using this method. It's possible that this is a "rage quit" prevention thing that From put in? If you lose all your runes, you're rewarded with a hidden higher drop rate on your next kill?
  
  Tried it about 6 times after, couldn't get a third. I guess if it's not repeatable, it's not a thing. :/
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- Anonymous
  29 Apr 2022 22:48
  got it to drop on my first try with 248 discovery. cope
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- Anonymous
  29 Apr 2022 21:09
  Shite weapon. Cursed is a lot better.
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  29 Apr 2022 21:06
  Shite weapon. Cursed is a lot better.
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- Anonymous
  29 Apr 2022 19:39
  Had a chuckle to have a about the name of this because it's literally "big knife" in German
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- Anonymous
  27 Apr 2022 22:43
  just got my second one after about 20 min of farming with 260 item discovery. don’t hate me and good luck everyone.
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- Anonymous
  27 Apr 2022 22:33
  just got my second one after about 20 min of farming with 260 item discovery. don’t hate me and good luck everyone.
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- Anonymous
  27 Apr 2022 11:51
  Got two of them with 80 arcane plus the silver scarab with silver foot within 10 minutes
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  27 Apr 2022 11:51
  Got two of them with 80 arcane plus the silver scarab with silver foot within 10 minutes
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- Anonymous
  26 Apr 2022 22:12
  I think the description is wrong. The skeletons that do not use shield and are rolling have Scimitar. Skeletons without shield and that are not rolling have Grossmesser.
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- Anonymous
  26 Apr 2022 19:48
  Volcanic Manor used to be my favorite area in the game, I tried farming these and I can say that I am entirely bored of how the place looks and sounds.
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- Anonymous
  26 Apr 2022 01:46
  Dang almost there. After I saw this was in the game I was hoping there would also be either a katana or a curved great sword version of the Kriegmessser in the game too. So close, yet so far.
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- Anonymous
  21 Apr 2022 23:54
  Jesus this is rare. I have 300 item discovery and I've been running around the tomb for hours getting no weapons. I'm farming the right skeletons too.
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- CatchTheRainbow
  21 Apr 2022 23:31
  In the Tombsward Catacombs i got two, one on my second try and another in the third try, guess i spent all my luck
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- Anonymous
  20 Apr 2022 04:40
  People saying that this is a quality weapon are wrong, this is a str curved sword
  A Heavy grossmesser with 99 str has a bigger AR (590) than a Quality grossmesser with 50 str and 50 dex (544)
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- Anonymous
  19 Apr 2022 23:51
  Is tombsward the only place to farm these?
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- Anonymous
  19 Apr 2022 04:44
  Quality is the best build for this baby. Longer reach than Bandit Curved Sword (hell, perhaps the longest curved sword in the entire game) while having a tiny bit lower AR. Has less weight, too. Highly recommended.
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- Anonymous
  19 Apr 2022 01:51
  The farm isn’t bad at all. I got 2 within an hour and a half. Well I don’t think it’s that bad.
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- EvilUnicornLord
  18 Apr 2022 00:16
  Technically the Bandit's Curved Sword is better BUT Elden Bling is a thing (also slightly less weight so that's nice.)
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- Anonymous
  15 Apr 2022 04:51
  My favorite irl sword is finally in a fs game! Too bad I will never get to use it because of the awful drop rates lol.
  Also the blade is a bit too curved to be a Grossmesser. (Not to say that messers can't be curved like this)
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- Anonymous
  14 Apr 2022 03:21
  Much as I love (actual) Großesmesser, this... Is not it. Love it to death, using a +25 Heavy pair in NG+ I can swap to cold, bloodhound or Seppuku (4 hits on run or jump kinda wild in PvE/PvP), but uhhhh FromSoft goofed. Messers are characterized by knife like handles, this is just a fantasy kiliç (Turkish saber)
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- Anonymous
  14 Apr 2022 02:34
  Strength builds rejoice, this thing is awesome with heavy infusion. Really nice to finish opponents off in pvp rather than trying to hit them for that last little bit with a massive weapon once they inevitably start playing reactive and spam rolling away.
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- Anonymous
  13 Apr 2022 05:55
  I did managed to farm 2 (for powerstancing) with minimum stats in arcane + silver fowled foot. I prepared 6 foots, only used four. Best spot is tombsward catacombs behind the stonesword key wall.
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- Anonymous
  13 Apr 2022 01:45
  recently been collecting all the weapons in this game and stumbled across this one with every comment talking about how long they farmed for. Im so happy that i didnt go through the same pain as everyone else because I happened to get it after maybe 10 runs.
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- Anonymous
  12 Apr 2022 04:34
  got 2 in tombwards catacombs. It took me 4 silver-pickled fowl foot I don't know how many tries in total probably under 30. 15 minutes maybe of farming the stoneward key room. I mean is not bad as they say here
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- Anonymous
  11 Apr 2022 14:05
  This is some pure bladestone **** what the ****
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- Anonymous
  11 Apr 2022 14:03
  This is some pure bladestone **** what the ****
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- Anonymous
  07 Apr 2022 00:08
  this is the rarest item in the game because after 5 hours still nothing
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- Anonymous
  05 Apr 2022 20:34
  If I want to make bleed build from this weapon at lv.170. What's the stats look like? For PvE
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- Sertorius
  04 Apr 2022 04:41
  Keep in mind that:
  - This is a Strengh-oriented weapon.
  - When farming it on Tombsward Catacombs, at the end of the initial corridor, only the skeleton on the left can drop the weapon (the one that has a shield drios scimitars).
  - Using silver-pickled fowl foot will make the farming process exponentially more doable. It is quicker to go out of your way to craft them.
  - I reccomend using the Sacred Blade ash of war to farm this Item; it will also speed up the process.
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- Anonymous
  04 Apr 2022 03:52
  This isn't a Grossmesser! Length is closer to a Langmesser, and the model clearly doesn't have a full tang. My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined.
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- Anonymous
  01 Apr 2022 04:32
  -Invades your world dual-wielding these
  -Does 4-hit combo with one running L1
  -Refuses to elaborate
  -Leaves
  My sellsword baby is back
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- Anonymous
  31 Mar 2022 04:00
  Why the fk has it B scaling in int, but only C in faith?
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- Anonymous
  30 Mar 2022 08:29
  So many bone shards :(
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- Galathir
  30 Mar 2022 03:55
  I just wanted to collect all the things! Good gods the drop rate on this is terrible! Even worse than the Beastman's Cleaver and the Magma Blade... at least that was my luck. I'm glad I have other options for dual curved blades!
  
  All that said, most efficient way I found to farm these was to open the Stonesword key room everyone mentions. Just approaching the entrance of that room (don't cross the threshold) causes the Grossmesser Skelly to stand up. Hit him with the "Litany of Proper Death" incantation. Poof He's dead (no ground hit required). Then if there's a lootable, enter the room and grab it, turning around to blast the second skelly the same way. The second one does NOT drop the Grossmesser, so unless you also want a Scripture Wooden Shield or a Scimitar, skip him. You're probably only going to get human bone shards anyway! Then open your Map & teleport back to the grace (or just run back down the hall and rest, if you haven't cleared the boss here). Rinse and repeat until you get your drop (or you just cannot stand it anymore).
  
  Not sure why other Holy Damage doesn't always perma-flatten these skellies! Having to smash them on the ground a second time after I KABOOMED them with Marika's hammer is frustrating!
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- Anonymous
  28 Mar 2022 07:10
  Big Knife
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- Anonymous
  24 Mar 2022 23:39
  Max discovery took 6 kills in tombsward catacombs
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- Anonymous
  23 Mar 2022 07:40
  Much longer than the Falchion, and it appears to have slightly more reach than the Bandit's Curved Sword too. Great option for powerstancing.
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- phroZac
  23 Mar 2022 07:38
  After reading the comments I figured I was in for a slog getting these. Well...I almost feel bad saying this but at only 185 discovery, I got two in 15 mins farming the first two Grossmesser-wielding skellies near the Tombsward Catacombs Grace. And they were back to back, lol.
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- Anonymous
  23 Mar 2022 05:38
  Farmed for this in the Tombsward Catacombs
  
  Farmed the one in the Stone key room next to the bonfire.
  
  I killed him 723 times before it finally dropped.
  seven hundred and twenty three times
  SEVEN HUNDRED AND TWENTY THREE TIMES
  I.... counted... every... single... one
  
  my... soul..... is crushed
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- Anonymous
  23 Mar 2022 05:38
  Farmed for this in the Tombsward Catacombs
  
  Farmed the one in the Stone key room next to the bonfire.
  
  I killed him 723 times before it finally dropped.
  seven hundred and twenty three times
  SEVEN HUNDRED AND TWENTY THREE TIMES
  I.... counted... every... single... one
  
  my... soul..... is crushed
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- Anonymous
  23 Mar 2022 05:36
  Farmed for this in the Tombsward Catacombs
  
  Farmed the one in the Stone key room next to the bonfire.
  
  I killed him 723 times before it finally dropped.
  seven hundred and twenty three times
  SEVEN HUNDRED AND TWENTY THREE TIMES
  I.... counted... every... single... one
  
  my... soul..... is crushed
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- Anonymous
  22 Mar 2022 07:24
  Don’t sell them sort! They have excellent range and work well on low dex builds that relies on faith or int scaling when infused
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- Anonymous
  21 Mar 2022 11:11
  This just seems like a worse falchion, sure the base damage is slightly higher than falchion but the scaling is worse and its harder to farm
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- Anonymous
  19 Mar 2022 07:35
  It's funny because the name in German means "large knife"
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- Anonymous
  19 Mar 2022 05:56
  Huh. I don't understand scaling in this game. The falchion and grossmesser give around the same bonus for strength at +0 when you make them heavy, but the falchion is B while the grossmesser is C. Weird!
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  19 Mar 2022 05:55
  It only goes up to B? Thats strange, falchion starts off with lower STR scaling but ends up as an A. Damn I invested so many stones into this weapon T_T
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- Anonymous
  17 Mar 2022 07:46
  Very disappointing this doesn't look like a real Messer, rather, a weird scimitar/kilij/shamshir with a strangely large messer blade. Hopefully some amazing modder will make a mod to at least fix the handle sometime in the future.
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- Anonymous
  17 Mar 2022 07:24
  Took me around 20 mins to farm with 305 discovery (fowl foot = on), so yeah definitely has a low drop rate. tip: use holy weapon to 1 shot the skellingtons
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- Anonymous
  17 Mar 2022 06:34
  I heard some say this is the best strength Cs but I have this thing and the Bandit CS heavy +12 and the bandit simply does more damage 40 str 2h or not
  
  They have similar range too.
  
  But bandit is definitely uglier.
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  17 Mar 2022 06:33
  I heard some say this is the best strength Cs but I have this thing and the Bandit CS heavy +12 and the bandit simply does more damage 40 str 2h or not
  
  They have similar range too.
  
  But bandit is definitely uglier.
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- Anonymous
  17 Mar 2022 06:07
  Powerstancing two of these puppies makes me feel like I’ve got my old, reliable Sellsword Twinblades back. Definitely a fun weapon, and even does solid damage too provided you’re willing to invest the upgrade mats.
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- Anonymous
  17 Mar 2022 06:04
  Powerstancing two of these puppies makes me feel like I’ve got my old, reliable Sellsword Twinblades back. Definitely a fun weapon, and even does solid damage too provided you’re willing to invest the upgrade mats.
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- Anonymous
  17 Mar 2022 05:26
  it doesn't look that gross
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  16 Mar 2022 06:01
  I love this thing. It carried me from limgrave all the way to altus plateau. Put bloody slash on it and you'll be able to take on most everything with ease (however, keep a striking weapon handy for the enemies that are resistant to slash damage).
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- Wolfyre
  13 Mar 2022 05:48
  Fashion Issue:
  
  I farmed these b/c they reminded me of the Kilij from Demon's Souls but they don't get a sheath which ruins the fashion for me and they look a little over large to me as well. Not saying they are bad but if you were hoping for a cool sheath or even a back sheath like the Carthus Curved Sword you will be disappointed. However I love how curves swords actually flow in combat in this game and not get swung as if they are a baseball bat like the other DS games.
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- Anonymous
  11 Mar 2022 04:08
  has the falchion moveset, as opposed to the scimitar moveset
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  11 Mar 2022 03:47
  Farmed down there for over an hour and didn’t get the drop
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- NinjaTanuki
  09 Mar 2022 08:07
  Hello Skallagrim.
  I knew you'd be here eventually.
  We've been wating for you.
  uwu;
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- Anonymous
  09 Mar 2022 06:13
  This weapon for is, arguable the best bleed weapon for a quality build.
  C scaling for both Dex and Str and procs bleed quickly.
  
  Not to mention the great powerstance combo
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- Anonymous
  08 Mar 2022 22:31
  +25 Heavy Grossmesser
  Str Scaling: B
  Character Str: 65
  Physical 258+273
  
  It's not a bad backup weapon for STR builds.
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  08 Mar 2022 21:35
  Keep in mind that skeletons that use shields are actually equipped with scimitars, and don't drop this weapon
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- Anonymous
  07 Mar 2022 03:16
  A beautiful sword
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  06 Mar 2022 17:24
  A messer by name alone it would seem
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- Anonymous
  04 Mar 2022 21:11
  Oke guys, to get this you need to eat the silver pickled fowl foot, wich gives you +50 item discovery rate, because the drop rate is insane low. Kill the skeletons that wields this weapon in tomnward catacombs and pray. First i had no luck and didn't eat the fowl foot. I grinded till 20k souls and did 150 runs! Took me 2 hours and still NO SWORD! After eating the fowl foot i got it imediately, after the first try. So guys do not waste your time and eat dem chickens foot.
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- Anonymous
  04 Mar 2022 21:01
  Got mine in the Aurzia's Hero Grave from a skeleton on the first drop, not sure if it was guaranteed
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- Anonymous
  04 Mar 2022 11:30
  Mine got B scaling in Str at +3 Heavy
  
  Still has C in Dex. I think this is a Str build curved sword
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- Anonymous
  04 Mar 2022 05:58
  Grinded the stonekey room in tombward catacombs until i had 20k souls, stille no sword. Patchwork 1.02.1
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  04 Mar 2022 05:54
  Anyone know the drop rate? I've killed the skeleton in the catacombs about 150 times and he hasn't dropped it yet :(. Have gotten over 15000 souls from him now, lol, but no Grossmesser.
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- Anonymous
  04 Mar 2022 04:08
  So you can find this sword at the tombsward catacombs the skeletons you want to kill are wielding this sword. Its a pretty low chance to drop. I currently have a keen ash of war on it and it has a B in dex +13. I currently have 2. The damage is pretty good but i imagine later on with higher smithing levels would rise to a A rank.
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- Anonymous
  04 Mar 2022 03:32
  Why does this look more like a Shamshir than the Shamshir?
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  04 Mar 2022 00:26
  anyone know about the stat scalings?
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- Anonymous
  03 Mar 2022 23:16
  Hey everyone, Tombsward Catacombs is where most people are finding this weapon, since it contains several Grossmesser-wielding skeletons.
  
  Location: Without spoiling anything, enter the southernmost region which can be accessed in the southeast of Limgrave, the starting region. These catacombs are located in the north-northwest of this region, somewhat inland. The easiest way to find it will probably be to find the church in the northwest and then head south from the church while keeping your eyes peeled. It's not too hidden, and there's a statue guiding the way which can be seen pretty quickly upon heading south from the church.
  
  The most efficient way to farm the grossmesser is to farm the skeleton that wields it in the stone key room near the entrance, but don't worry if you don't have a stone key. There are plenty of grossmesser-skeletons in the normal areas too (the weapon only drops from enemies that wield it, not scimitar- or bow-skeletons). If you're strong enough to reach this location, i.e. make it across the bridge to the southern region, then you're strong enough to farm for this weapon.
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  03 Mar 2022 00:50
  Is this scales better with dex or quality ? Or maybe str ??
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  01 Mar 2022 23:47
  Can confirm its in the Tombward Catacombs. I grinded the Sword in the Room behind the grace where you need the stone sword key. 2 Meele Skeletons are in that room and you can easy reset it after you killed both.
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- Anonymous
  01 Mar 2022 07:52
  Just farm the one skeleton wearing it in the first room in Tombsward Catacombs, opened with a stonekey.
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- Anonymous
  01 Mar 2022 01:57
  Zweihander and Grossmesser
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- Anonymous
  28 Feb 2022 08:20
  Confirmed to drop on Skeleton melee types - Tombsward Catacombs. It's a rare drop or I was unlucky. Almost gave up lol. Got 3 longbows from just the two archers before I go the sword.
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- Anonymous
  26 Feb 2022 22:40
  Ewww! Gross!
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  26 Feb 2022 22:18
  found in tombsward catacombs
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  26 Feb 2022 18:38
  Got mine in Tombsward Catacombs
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  26 Feb 2022 18:24
  Found in 4-1, at the broken square near the demon Vanguard.
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  26 Feb 2022 00:54
  You can get one from the skelly bois, drop rate is pretty **** tho
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