Grossmesser

grossmesser curved sword weapon elden ring wiki guide 200px
attack power elden ring wiki guide 18Attack
Phy 115
Mag 0
Fire 0
Ligt 0
Holy 0
Crit 100
guarded damage negation elden ring wiki guide 18Guard
Phy 46
Mag 34
Fire 34
Ligt 34
Holy 34
Boost 28
attribute scaling elden ring wiki guide 18Scaling
Str D
Dex D
attributes required elden ring wiki guide 18Requires
Str 14
Dex 12
Curved Sword Slash
Spinning Slash FP 6 ( - 12)
Wgt. 4.5 passive effects elden ring wiki guide 18Passive -

Grossmesser is a Curved Sword in Elden Ring. The Grossmesser scales primarily with Dexterity and Strength and is a good Weapon for its Spinning Slash Skill which allows tha player to spin and deal Slash damage to foes in range. This will be ideal for when facing numerous enemies at a time. 

 

Curved sword boasting a large blade. 
This weapon is designed to make use of its weight in combination with its sharp cutting edge. 

A thoroughly reliable choice of weapon for those who can master its particulars. 

 

Where to Find Grossmesser in Elden Ring

The Grossmesser weapon can be found at the following location:

  • A possible drop from Skeletons that wield the weapon. For example, this weapon can be dropped by Skeletons in Tombsward Catacombs. The Skeletons that may drop a Grossmesser do not use a shield or a bow, and can be recognized by their rolling move.

 

Elden Ring Grossmesser Notes & Tips

  • Weapon SkillSpinning Slash
  • This weapon can be infused with Ashes of War.
  • Grossmesser can be upgraded by using Smithing Stones
  • Sell Value:  er runes 13 100
  • Base drop rate is 2% (at 100 Discovery).
  • NOTE: As of Patch 1.08, poise damage has been reduced, but only for PVP.
  • Other notes and player tips go here

The Grossmesser can be infused with Ashes of War. Click below for a list of all possible Ashes of War that can be applied to the curved sword.

See usable Ashes of War (click to reveal)

All Affinities

Only Standard, Heavy, Keen, Quality, Fire, and Flame Art

Only Standard, Heavy, Keen, Quality, Lightning, and Sacred

Only Standard, Heavy, Keen, Quality, Magic, and Cold

Only Standard, Heavy, Keen, Quality, Poison, Blood, and Occult

  

Moveset & Videos in Elden Ring for Grossmesser

 

Grossmesser Upgrades in Elden Ring

Please see the Upgrades page to understand the weapon bolstering process.

 

max upgrades elden ring wiki guide 30
standard upgrades elden ring wiki guide 30
heavy upgrades elden ring wiki guide 30
keen upgrades elden ring wiki guide 30
quality upgrades elden ring wiki guide 30
fire upgrades elden ring wiki guide 30
flame weapon upgrade elden ring wiki guide 30px
lightning upgrades elden ring wiki guide 30
sacred upgrades elden ring wiki guide 30
magic upgrades elden ring wiki guide 30
cold upgrades elden ring wiki guide 30
poison upgrades elden ring wiki guide 30
blood upgrades elden ring wiki guide 30
occult upgrades elden ring wiki guide 30

 

Grossmesser Max Upgrades

Overview table for all upgrades at max level. Click on the tabs to see individual upgrade paths.

  Attack Power Stat Scaling Passive Effects Damage Reduction (%)
Grossmesser Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Sta Str Dex Int Fai Arc Any Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Bst Rst
Std+25 281 - - - - 98 C D - - - - 46 34 34 34 34 33.6 11
Hvy+25 258 - - - - 98 B - - - - - 46 34 34 34 34 30.8 11
Keen+25 258 - - - - 98 E B - - - - 46 34 34 34 34 30.8 11
Qua+25 225 - - - - 98 B B - - - - 46 34 34 34 34 30.8 11
Fire+25 187 - 187 - - 98 C E - - - - 43.7 32.3 42.5 39.1 32.3 28 10.45
Flame+25 220 - 220 - - 98 D E - C - - 43.7 32.3 42.5 39.1 32.3 28 10.45
Lit+25 191 - - 191 - 98 E C - - - - 43.7 32.3 39.1 42.5 32.3 28 10.45
Sac+25 220 - - - 220 98 D E - C - - 43.7 39.1 32.3 32.3 42.5 28 10.45
Mag+25 220 220 - - - 98 E E B - - - 43.7 42.5 32.3 32.3 39.1 28 10.45
Col+25 198 158 - - - 98 C C C - - frostbite status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(105) 43.7 39.1 32.3 32.3 32.3 28 10.45
Poi+25 236 - - - - 98 C C - - D poison status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(95) 43.7 32.3 32.3 32.3 32.3 28 11
Blood+25 236 - - - - 98 C C - - D hemorrhage status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(82) 43.7 32.3 32.3 32.3 32.3 28 10.45
Occ+25 247 - - - - 98 D E - - B - 46 34 34 34 34 30.8 11

Grossmesser standard Upgrades

Requires regular reinforcement with Smithing Stone [1]Smithing Stone [2]Smithing Stone [3]Smithing Stone [4]Smithing Stone [5]Smithing Stone [6]Smithing Stone [7]Smithing Stone [8], and Ancient Dragon Smithing Stone.

This upgrade can be enchanted with Magic or boosted with Consumables.

  Attack Power Stat Scaling Passive Effects Damage Reduction (%)
Grossmesser Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Sta Str Dex Int Fai Arc Any Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Bst Rst
Standard 115 - - - - 49 D D - - - - 46 34 34 34 34 28 11
Standard +1 121 - - - - 50 D D - - - - 46 34 34 34 34 28.28 11
Standard +2 128 - - - - 52 D D - - - - 46 34 34 34 34 28.56 11
Standard +3 135 - - - - 54 D D - - - - 46 34 34 34 34 28.84 11
Standard +4 141 - - - - 56 D D - - - - 46 34 34 34 34 29.12 11
Standard +5 148 - - - - 58 D D - - - - 46 34 34 34 34 29.4 11
Standard +6 155 - - - - 60 D D - - - - 46 34 34 34 34 29.68 11
Standard +7 161 - - - - 62 D D - - - - 46 34 34 34 34 29.96 11
Standard +8 168 - - - - 64 D D - - - - 46 34 34 34 34 30.24 11
Standard +9 175 - - - - 66 D D - - - - 46 34 34 34 34 30.52 11
Standard +10 181 - - - - 68 D D - - - - 46 34 34 34 34 30.8 11
Standard +11 188 - - - - 70 D D - - - - 46 34 34 34 34 31.08 11
Standard +12 195 - - - - 72 D D - - - - 46 34 34 34 34 31.36 11
Standard +13 201 - - - - 74 D D - - - - 46 34 34 34 34 31.64 11
Standard +14 208 - - - - 76 C D - - - - 46 34 34 34 34 31.92 11
Standard +15 215 - - - - 78 C D - - - - 46 34 34 34 34 32.2 11
Standard +16 221 - - - - 80 C D - - - - 46 34 34 34 34 32.48 11
Standard +17 228 - - - - 82 C D - - - - 46 34 34 34 34 32.48 11
Standard +18 235 - - - - 84 C D - - - - 46 34 34 34 34 32.76 11
Standard +19 241 - - - - 86 C D - - - - 46 34 34 34 34 32.76 11
Standard +20 248 - - - - 88 C D - - - - 46 34 34 34 34 33.04 11
Standard +21 255 - - - - 90 C D - - - - 46 34 34 34 34 33.04 11
Standard +22 261 - - - - 92 C D - - - - 46 34 34 34 34 33.04 11
Standard +23 268 - - - - 94 C D - - - - 46 34 34 34 34 33.32 11
Standard +24 275 - - - - 96 C D - - - - 46 34 34 34 34 33.32 11
Standard +25 281 - - - - 98 C D - - - - 46 34 34 34 34 33.6 11

 

Grossmesser Heavy Upgrades

Requires regular reinforcement with Smithing Stone [1]Smithing Stone [2]Smithing Stone [3]Smithing Stone [4]Smithing Stone [5]Smithing Stone [6]Smithing Stone [7]Smithing Stone [8], and Ancient Dragon Smithing Stone, as well as Heavy Affinity Ashes of War.

This upgrade can be enchanted with Magic or boosted with Consumables.

  Attack Power Stat Scaling Passive Effects Damage Reduction (%)
Grossmesser Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Sta Str Dex Int Fai Arc Any Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Bst Rst
Heavy 104 - - - - 49 C - - - - - 46 34 34 34 34 28 11
Heavy +1 110 - - - - 50 C - - - - - 46 34 34 34 34 28.28 11
Heavy +2 116 - - - - 52 B - - - - - 46 34 34 34 34 28.28 11
Heavy +3 122 - - - - 54 B - - - - - 46 34 34 34 34 28.56 11
Heavy +4 129 - - - - 56 B - - - - - 46 34 34 34 34 28.56 11
Heavy +5 135 - - - - 58 B - - - - - 46 34 34 34 34 28.84 11
Heavy +6 141 - - - - 60 B - - - - - 46 34 34 34 34 28.84 11
Heavy +7 147 - - - - 62 B - - - - - 46 34 34 34 34 29.12 11
Heavy +8 153 - - - - 64 B - - - - - 46 34 34 34 34 29.12 11
Heavy +9 159 - - - - 66 B - - - - - 46 34 34 34 34 29.12 11
Heavy +10 166 - - - - 68 B - - - - - 46 34 34 34 34 29.4 11
Heavy +11 172 - - - - 70 B - - - - - 46 34 34 34 34 29.4 11
Heavy +12 178 - - - - 72 B - - - - - 46 34 34 34 34 29.4 11
Heavy +13 184 - - - - 74 B - - - - - 46 34 34 34 34 29.68 11
Heavy +14 190 - - - - 76 B - - - - - 46 34 34 34 34 29.68 11
Heavy +15 196 - - - - 78 B - - - - - 46 34 34 34 34 29.68 11
Heavy +16 203 - - - - 80 B - - - - - 46 34 34 34 34 29.96 11
Heavy +17 209 - - - - 82 B - - - - - 46 34 34 34 34 29.96 11
Heavy +18 215 - - - - 84 B - - - - - 46 34 34 34 34 29.96 11
Heavy +19 221 - - - - 86 B - - - - - 46 34 34 34 34 30.24 11
Heavy +20 227 - - - - 88 B - - - - - 46 34 34 34 34 30.24 11
Heavy +21 233 - - - - 90 B - - - - - 46 34 34 34 34 30.24 11
Heavy +22 240 - - - - 92 B - - - - - 46 34 34 34 34 30.52 11
Heavy +23 246 - - - - 94 B - - - - - 46 34 34 34 34 30.52 11
Heavy +24 252 - - - - 96 B - - - - - 46 34 34 34 34 30.52 11
Heavy +25 258 - - - - 98 B - - - - - 46 34 34 34 34 30.8 11

Grossmesser Keen Upgrades

Requires regular reinforcement with Smithing Stone [1]Smithing Stone [2]Smithing Stone [3]Smithing Stone [4]Smithing Stone [5]Smithing Stone [6]Smithing Stone [7]Smithing Stone [8], and Ancient Dragon Smithing Stone, as well as Keen Affinity Ashes of War.

This upgrade can be enchanted with Magic or boosted with Consumables.

  Attack Power Stat Scaling Passive Effects Damage Reduction (%)
Grossmesser Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Sta Str Dex Int Fai Arc Any Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Bst Rst
Keen 104 - - - - 49 E C - - - - 46 34 34 34 34 28 11
Keen +1 110 - - - - 50 E C - - - - 46 34 34 34 34 28.28 11
Keen +2 116 - - - - 52 E C - - - - 46 34 34 34 34 28.28 11
Keen +3 122 - - - - 54 E C - - - - 46 34 34 34 34 28.56 11
Keen +4 129 - - - - 56 E C - - - - 46 34 34 34 34 28.56 11
Keen +5 135 - - - - 58 E C - - - - 46 34 34 34 34 28.84 11
Keen +6 141 - - - - 60 E B - - - - 46 34 34 34 34 28.84 11
Keen +7 147 - - - - 62 E B - - - - 46 34 34 34 34 29.12 11
Keen +8 153 - - - - 64 E B - - - - 46 34 34 34 34 29.12 11
Keen +9 159 - - - - 66 E B - - - - 46 34 34 34 34 29.12 11
Keen +10 166 - - - - 68 E B - - - - 46 34 34 34 34 29.4 11
Keen +11 172 - - - - 70 E B - - - - 46 34 34 34 34 29.4 11
Keen +12 178 - - - - 72 E B - - - - 46 34 34 34 34 29.4 11
Keen +13 184 - - - - 74 E B - - - - 46 34 34 34 34 29.68 11
Keen +14 190 - - - - 76 E B - - - - 46 34 34 34 34 29.68 11
Keen +15 196 - - - - 78 E B - - - - 46 34 34 34 34 29.68 11
Keen +16 203 - - - - 80 E B - - - - 46 34 34 34 34 29.96 11
Keen +17 209 - - - - 82 E B - - - - 46 34 34 34 34 29.96 11
Keen +18 215 - - - - 84 E B - - - - 46 34 34 34 34 29.96 11
Keen +19 221 - - - - 86 E B - - - - 46 34 34 34 34 30.24 11
Keen +20 227 - - - - 88 E B - - - - 46 34 34 34 34 30.24 11
Keen +21 233 - - - - 90 E B - - - - 46 34 34 34 34 30.24 11
Keen +22 240 - - - - 92 E B - - - - 46 34 34 34 34 30.52 11
Keen +23 246 - - - - 94 E B - - - - 46 34 34 34 34 30.52 11
Keen +24 252 - - - - 96 E B - - - - 46 34 34 34 34 30.52 11
Keen +25 258 - - - - 98 E B - - - - 46 34 34 34 34 30.8 11

Grossmesser Quality Upgrades

Requires regular reinforcement with Smithing Stone [1]Smithing Stone [2]Smithing Stone [3]Smithing Stone [4]Smithing Stone [5]Smithing Stone [6]Smithing Stone [7]Smithing Stone [8], and Ancient Dragon Smithing Stone, as well as Quality Affinity Ashes of War.

This upgrade can be enchanted with Magic or boosted with Consumables.

  Attack Power Stat Scaling Passive Effects Damage Reduction (%)
Grossmesser Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Sta Str Dex Int Fai Arc Any Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Bst Rst
Quality 99 - - - - 49 D D - - - - 46 34 34 34 34 28 11
Quality +1 104 - - - - 50 D D - - - - 46 34 34 34 34 28.28 11
Quality +2 109 - - - - 52 C C - - - - 46 34 34 34 34 28.28 11
Quality +3 114 - - - - 54 C C - - - - 46 34 34 34 34 28.56 11
Quality +4 119 - - - - 56 C C - - - - 46 34 34 34 34 28.56 11
Quality +5 124 - - - - 58 C C - - - - 46 34 34 34 34 28.84 11
Quality +6 129 - - - - 60 C C - - - - 46 34 34 34 34 28.84 11
Quality +7 134 - - - - 62 C C - - - - 46 34 34 34 34 29.12 11
Quality +8 139 - - - - 64 C C - - - - 46 34 34 34 34 29.12 11
Quality +9 144 - - - - 66 C C - - - - 46 34 34 34 34 29.12 11
Quality +10 149 - - - - 68 C C - - - - 46 34 34 34 34 29.4 11
Quality +11 154 - - - - 70 C C - - - - 46 34 34 34 34 29.4 11
Quality +12 159 - - - - 72 C C - - - - 46 34 34 34 34 29.4 11
Quality +13 164 - - - - 74 C C - - - - 46 34 34 34 34 29.68 11
Quality +14 169 - - - - 76 B B - - - - 46 34 34 34 34 29.68 11
Quality +15 174 - - - - 78 B B - - - - 46 34 34 34 34 29.68 11
Quality +16 179 - - - - 80 B B - - - - 46 34 34 34 34 29.96 11
Quality +17 185 - - - - 82 B B - - - - 46 34 34 34 34 29.96 11
Quality +18 190 - - - - 84 B B - - - - 46 34 34 34 34 29.96 11
Quality +19 195 - - - - 86 B B - - - - 46 34 34 34 34 30.24 11
Quality +20 200 - - - - 88 B B - - - - 46 34 34 34 34 30.24 11
Quality +21 205 - - - - 90 B B - - - - 46 34 34 34 34 30.24 11
Quality +22 210 - - - - 92 B B - - - - 46 34 34 34 34 30.52 11
Quality +23 215 - - - - 94 B B - - - - 46 34 34 34 34 30.52 11
Quality +24 220 - - - - 96 B B - - - - 46 34 34 34 34 30.52 11
Quality +25 225 - - - - 98 B B - - - - 46 34 34 34 34 30.8 11

Grossmesser Fire Upgrades

Requires regular reinforcement with Smithing Stone [1]Smithing Stone [2]Smithing Stone [3]Smithing Stone [4]Smithing Stone [5]Smithing Stone [6]Smithing Stone [7]Smithing Stone [8], and Ancient Dragon Smithing Stone, as well as Fire Affinity Ashes of War.

This upgrade cannot be enchanted with Magic or boosted with Consumables.

  Attack Power Stat Scaling Passive Effects Damage Reduction (%)
Grossmesser Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Sta Str Dex Int Fai Arc Any Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Bst Rst
Fire 88 - 88 - - 49 D E - - - - 43.7 32.3 39.1 35.7 32.3 28 10.45
Fire +1 91 - 91 - - 50 D E - - - - 43.7 32.3 39.1 35.7 32.3 28 10.45
Fire +2 95 - 95 - - 52 D E - - - - 43.7 32.3 39.44 36.04 32.3 28 10.45
Fire +3 99 - 99 - - 54 D E - - - - 43.7 32.3 39.44 36.04 32.3 28 10.45
Fire +4 103 - 103 - - 56 D E - - - - 43.7 32.3 39.78 36.38 32.3 28 10.45
Fire +5 107 - 107 - - 58 D E - - - - 43.7 32.3 39.78 36.38 32.3 28 10.45
Fire +6 111 - 111 - - 60 D E - - - - 43.7 32.3 40.12 36.72 32.3 28 10.45
Fire +7 115 - 115 - - 62 D E - - - - 43.7 32.3 40.12 36.72 32.3 28 10.45
Fire +8 119 - 119 - - 64 D E - - - - 43.7 32.3 40.46 37.06 32.3 28 10.45
Fire +9 123 - 123 - - 66 D E - - - - 43.7 32.3 40.46 37.06 32.3 28 10.45
Fire +10 127 - 127 - - 68 D E - - - - 43.7 32.3 40.8 37.4 32.3 28 10.45
Fire +11 131 - 131 - - 70 D E - - - - 43.7 32.3 40.8 37.4 32.3 28 10.45
Fire +12 135 - 135 - - 72 D E - - - - 43.7 32.3 41.14 37.74 32.3 28 10.45
Fire +13 139 - 139 - - 74 C E - - - - 43.7 32.3 41.14 37.74 32.3 28 10.45
Fire +14 143 - 143 - - 76 C E - - - - 43.7 32.3 41.14 37.74 32.3 28 10.45
Fire +15 147 - 147 - - 78 C E - - - - 43.7 32.3 41.48 38.08 32.3 28 10.45
Fire +16 151 - 151 - - 80 C E - - - - 43.7 32.3 41.48 38.08 32.3 28 10.45
Fire +17 155 - 155 - - 82 C E - - - - 43.7 32.3 41.48 38.08 32.3 28 10.45
Fire +18 159 - 159 - - 84 C E - - - - 43.7 32.3 41.82 38.42 32.3 28 10.45
Fire +19 163 - 163 - - 86 C E - - - - 43.7 32.3 41.82 38.42 32.3 28 10.45
Fire +20 167 - 167 - - 88 C E - - - - 43.7 32.3 41.82 38.42 32.3 28 10.45
Fire +21 171 - 171 - - 90 C E - - - - 43.7 32.3 42.16 38.76 32.3 28 10.45
Fire +22 175 - 175 - - 92 C E - - - - 43.7 32.3 42.16 38.76 32.3 28 10.45
Fire +23 179 - 179 - - 94 C E - - - - 43.7 32.3 42.16 38.76 32.3 28 10.45
Fire +24 183 - 183 - - 96 C E - - - - 43.7 32.3 42.16 38.76 32.3 28 10.45
Fire +25 187 - 187 - - 98 C E - - - - 43.7 32.3 42.5 39.1 32.3 28 10.45

Grossmesser Flame Upgrades

Requires regular reinforcement with Smithing Stone [1]Smithing Stone [2]Smithing Stone [3]Smithing Stone [4]Smithing Stone [5]Smithing Stone [6]Smithing Stone [7]Smithing Stone [8], and Ancient Dragon Smithing Stone, as well as Flame Affinity Ashes of War.

This upgrade cannot be enchanted with Magic or boosted with Consumables.

  Attack Power Stat Scaling Passive Effects Damage Reduction (%)
Grossmesser Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Sta Str Dex Int Fai Arc Any Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Bst Rst
Flame 93 - 93 - - 49 E E - D - - 43.7 32.3 39.1 35.7 32.3 28 10.45
Flame +1 98 - 98 - - 50 E E - D - - 43.7 32.3 39.1 35.7 32.3 28 10.45
Flame +2 103 - 103 - - 52 E E - D - - 43.7 32.3 39.44 36.04 32.3 28 10.45
Flame+3 108 - 108 - - 54 E E - D - - 43.7 32.3 39.44 36.04 32.3 28 10.45
Flame +4 113 - 113 - - 56 E E - D - - 43.7 32.3 39.78 36.38 32.3 28 10.45
Flame +5 118 - 118 - - 58 E E - D - - 43.7 32.3 39.78 36.38 32.3 28 10.45
Flame +6 123 - 123 - - 60 E E - D - - 43.7 32.3 40.12 36.72 32.3 28 10.45
Flame +7 128 - 128 - - 62 E E - D - - 43.7 32.3 40.12 36.72 32.3 28 10.45
Flame +8 133 - 133 - - 64 E E - D - - 43.7 32.3 40.46 37.06 32.3 28 10.45
Flame +9 139 - 139 - - 66 E E - C - - 43.7 32.3 40.46 37.06 32.3 28 10.45
Flame +10 144 - 144 - - 68 E E - C - - 43.7 32.3 40.8 37.4 32.3 28 10.45
Flame +11 149 - 149 - - 70 E E - C - - 43.7 32.3 40.8 37.4 32.3 28 10.45
Flame +12 154 - 154 - - 72 E E - C - - 43.7 32.3 41.14 37.74 32.3 28 10.45
Flame +13 159 - 159 - - 74 E E - C - - 43.7 32.3 41.14 37.74 32.3 28 10.45
Flame +14 164 - 164 - - 76 E E - C - - 43.7 32.3 41.14 37.74 32.3 28 10.45
Flame +15 169 - 169 - - 78 E E - C - - 43.7 32.3 41.48 38.08 32.3 28 10.45
Flame +16 174 - 174 - - 80 E E - C - - 43.7 32.3 41.48 38.08 32.3 28 10.45
Flame +17 179 - 179 - - 82 E E - C - - 43.7 32.3 41.48 38.08 32.3 28 10.45
Flame +18 184 - 184 - - 84 E E - C - - 43.7 32.3 41.82 38.42 32.3 28 10.45
Flame +19 189 - 189 - - 86 E E - C - - 43.7 32.3 41.82 38.42 32.3 28 10.45
Flame +20 194 - 194 - - 88 E E - C - - 43.7 32.3 41.82 38.42 32.3 28 10.45
Flame +21 199 - 199 - - 90 E E - C - - 43.7 32.3 42.16 38.76 32.3 28 10.45
Flame +22 204 - 204 - - 92 E E - C - - 43.7 32.3 42.16 38.76 32.3 28 10.45
Flame +23 209 - 209 - - 94 E E - C - - 43.7 32.3 42.16 38.76 32.3 28 10.45
Flame +24 214 - 214 - - 96 E E - C - - 43.7 32.3 42.16 38.76 32.3 28 10.45
Flame +25 220 - 220 - - 98 D E - C - - 43.7 32.3 42.5 39.1 32.3 28 10.45

Grossmesser Lightning Upgrades

Requires regular reinforcement with Smithing Stone [1]Smithing Stone [2]Smithing Stone [3]Smithing Stone [4]Smithing Stone [5]Smithing Stone [6]Smithing Stone [7]Smithing Stone [8], and Ancient Dragon Smithing Stone, as well as Lightning Affinity Ashes of War.

This upgrade cannot be enchanted with Magic or boosted with Consumables.

  Attack Power Stat Scaling Passive Effects Damage Reduction (%)
Grossmesser Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Sta Str Dex Int Fai Arc Any Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Bst Rst
Lightning 88 - - 88 - 49 E D - - - - 43.7 32.3 35.7 39.1 32.3 28 10.45
Lightning +1 92 - - 92 - 50 E D - - - - 43.7 32.3 35.7 39.1 32.3 28 10.45
Lightning +2 96 - - 96 - 52 E D - - - - 43.7 32.3 36.04 39.44 32.3 28 10.45
Lightning +3 100 - - 100 - 54 E D - - - - 43.7 32.3 36.04 39.44 32.3 28 10.45
Lightning +4 104 - - 104 - 56 E D - - - - 43.7 32.3 36.38 39.78 32.3 28 10.45
Lightning +5 108 - - 108 - 58 E D - - - - 43.7 32.3 36.38 39.78 32.3 28 10.45
Lightning +6 112 - - 112 - 60 E D - - - - 43.7 32.3 36.72 40.12 32.3 28 10.45
Lightning +7 116 - - 116 - 62 E D - - - - 43.7 32.3 36.72 40.12 32.3 28 10.45
Lightning +8 121 - - 121 - 64 E D - - - - 43.7 32.3 37.06 40.46 32.3 28 10.45
Lightning +9 125 - - 125 - 66 E D - - - - 43.7 32.3 37.06 40.46 32.3 28 10.45
Lightning +10 129 - - 129 - 68 E D - - - - 43.7 32.3 37.4 40.8 32.3 28 10.45
Lightning +11 133 - - 133 - 70 E D - - - - 43.7 32.3 37.4 40.8 32.3 28 10.45
Lightning +12 137 - - 137 - 72 E D - - - - 43.7 32.3 37.74 41.14 32.3 28 10.45
Lightning +13 141 - - 141 - 74 E C - - - - 43.7 32.3 37.74 41.14 32.3 28 10.45
Lightning +14 145 - - 145 - 76 E C - - - - 43.7 32.3 37.74 41.14 32.3 28 10.45
Lightning +15 150 - - 150 - 78 E C - - - - 43.7 32.3 38.08 41.48 32.3 28 10.45
Lightning +16 154 - - 154 - 80 E C - - - - 43.7 32.3 38.08 41.48 32.3 28 10.45
Lightning +17 158 - - 158 - 82 E C - - - - 43.7 32.3 38.08 41.48 32.3 28 10.45
Lightning +18 162 - - 162 - 84 E C - - - - 43.7 32.3 38.42 41.82 32.3 28 10.45
Lightning +19 166 - - 166 - 86 E C - - - - 43.7 32.3 38.42 41.82 32.3 28 10.45
Lightning +20 170 - - 170 - 88 E C - - - - 43.7 32.3 38.42 41.82 32.3 28 10.45
Lightning +21 174 - - 174 - 90 E C - - - - 43.7 32.3 38.76 42.16 32.3 28 10.45
Lightning +22 178 - - 178 - 92 E C - - - - 43.7 32.3 38.76 42.16 32.3 28 10.45
Lightning +23 183 - - 183 - 94 E C - - - - 43.7 32.3 38.76 42.16 32.3 28 10.45
Lightning +24 187 - - 187 - 96 E C - - - - 43.7 32.3 38.76 42.16 32.3 28 10.45
Lightning +25 191 - - 191 - 98 E C - - - - 43.7 32.3 39.1 42.5 32.3 28 10.45

Grossmesser Sacred Upgrades

Requires regular reinforcement with Smithing Stone [1]Smithing Stone [2]Smithing Stone [3]Smithing Stone [4]Smithing Stone [5]Smithing Stone [6]Smithing Stone [7]Smithing Stone [8], and Ancient Dragon Smithing Stone, as well as Sacred Affinity Ashes of War.

This upgrade cannot be enchanted with Magic or boosted with Consumables.

  Attack Power Stat Scaling Passive Effects Damage Reduction (%)
Grossmesser Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Sta Str Dex Int Fai Arc Any Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Bst Rst
Sacred 82 - - - 82 49 E E - D - - 43.7 35.7 32.3 32.3 39.1 28 10.45
Sacred +1 88 - - - 88 50 E E - D - - 43.7 35.7 32.3 32.3 39.1 28 10.45
Sacred +2 93 - - - 93 52 E E - D - - 43.7 36.04 32.3 32.3 39.44 28 10.45
Sacred +3 99 - - - 99 54 E E - D - - 43.7 36.04 32.3 32.3 39.44 28 10.45
Sacred +4 104 - - - 104 56 E E - D - - 43.7 36.38 32.3 32.3 39.78 28 10.45
Sacred +5 110 - - - 110 58 E E - D - - 43.7 36.38 32.3 32.3 39.78 28 10.45
Sacred +6 115 - - - 115 60 E E - D - - 43.7 36.72 32.3 32.3 40.12 28 10.45
Sacred +7 121 - - - 121 62 E E - D - - 43.7 36.72 32.3 32.3 40.12 28 10.45
Sacred +8 126 - - - 126 64 E E - D - - 43.7 37.06 32.3 32.3 40.46 28 10.45
Sacred +9 132 - - - 132 66 E E - C - - 43.7 37.06 32.3 32.3 40.46 28 10.45
Sacred +10 137 - - - 137 68 E E - C - - 43.7 37.4 32.3 32.3 40.8 28 10.45
Sacred +11 143 - - - 143 70 E E - C - - 43.7 37.4 32.3 32.3 40.8 28 10.45
Sacred +12 148 - - - 148 72 E E - C - - 43.7 37.74 32.3 32.3 41.14 28 10.45
Sacred +13 154 - - - 154 74 E E - C - - 43.7 37.74 32.3 32.3 41.14 28 10.45
Sacred +14 159 - - - 159 76 E E - C - - 43.7 37.74 32.3 32.3 41.14 28 10.45
Sacred +15 165 - - - 165 78 E E - C - - 43.7 38.08 32.3 32.3 41.48 28 10.45
Sacred +16 170 - - - 170 80 E E - C - - 43.7 38.08 32.3 32.3 41.48 28 10.45
Sacred +17 176 - - - 176 82 E E - C - - 43.7 38.08 32.3 32.3 41.48 28 10.45
Sacred +18 181 - - - 181 84 E E - C - - 43.7 38.42 32.3 32.3 41.82 28 10.45
Sacred +19 187 - - - 187 86 E E - C - - 43.7 38.42 32.3 32.3 41.82 28 10.45
Sacred +20 192 - - - 192 88 E E - C - - 43.7 38.42 32.3 32.3 41.82 28 10.45
Sacred +21 198 - - - 198 90 E E - C - - 43.7 38.76 32.3 32.3 42.16 28 10.45
Sacred +22 203 - - - 203 92 E E - C - - 43.7 38.76 32.3 32.3 42.16 28 10.45
Sacred +23 209 - - - 209 94 E E - C - - 43.7 38.76 32.3 32.3 42.16 28 10.45
Sacred +24 214 - - - 214 96 E E - C - - 43.7 38.76 32.3 32.3 42.16 28 10.45
Sacred +25 220 - - - 220 98 D E - C - - 43.7 39.1 32.3 32.3 42.5 28 10.45

Grossmesser Magic Upgrades

Requires regular reinforcement with Smithing Stone [1]Smithing Stone [2]Smithing Stone [3]Smithing Stone [4]Smithing Stone [5]Smithing Stone [6]Smithing Stone [7]Smithing Stone [8], and Ancient Dragon Smithing Stone, as well as Magic Affinity Ashes of War.

This upgrade cannot be enchanted with Magic or boosted with Consumables.

  Attack Power Stat Scaling Passive Effects Damage Reduction (%)
Grossmesser Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Sta Str Dex Int Fai Arc Any Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Bst Rst
Magic 82 82 - - - 49 E E D - - - 43.7 39.1 32.3 32.3 35.7 28 10.45
Magic +1 88 88 - - - 50 E E D - - - 43.7 39.1 32.3 32.3 35.7 28 10.45
Magic +2 93 93 - - - 52 E E D - - - 43.7 39.44 32.3 32.3 36.04 28 10.45
Magic +3 99 99 - - - 54 E E D - - - 43.7 39.44 32.3 32.3 36.04 28 10.45
Magic +4 104 104 - - - 56 E E D - - - 43.7 39.78 32.3 32.3 36.38 28 10.45
Magic +5 110 110 - - - 58 E E D - - - 43.7 39.78 32.3 32.3 36.38 28 10.45
Magic +6 115 115 - - - 60 E E D - - - 43.7 40.12 32.3 32.3 36.72 28 10.45
Magic +7 121 121 - - - 62 E E C - - - 43.7 40.12 32.3 32.3 36.72 28 10.45
Magic +8 126 126 - - - 64 E E C - - - 43.7 40.46 32.3 32.3 37.06 28 10.45
Magic +9 132 132 - - - 66 E E C - - - 43.7 40.46 32.3 32.3 37.06 28 10.45
Magic +10 137 137 - - - 68 E E C - - - 43.7 40.8 32.3 32.3 37.4 28 10.45
Magic +11 143 143 - - - 70 E E C - - - 43.7 40.8 32.3 32.3 37.4 28 10.45
Magic +12 148 148 - - - 72 E E C - - - 43.7 41.14 32.3 32.3 37.74 28 10.45
Magic +13 154 154 - - - 74 E E C - - - 43.7 41.14 32.3 32.3 37.74 28 10.45
Magic +14 159 159 - - - 76 E E C - - - 43.7 41.14 32.3 32.3 37.74 28 10.45
Magic +15 165 165 - - - 78 E E C - - - 43.7 41.48 32.3 32.3 38.08 28 10.45
Magic +16 170 170 - - - 80 E E C - - - 43.7 41.48 32.3 32.3 38.08 28 10.45
Magic +17 176 176 - - - 82 E E C - - - 43.7 41.48 32.3 32.3 38.08 28 10.45
Magic +18 181 181 - - - 84 E E C - - - 43.7 41.82 32.3 32.3 38.42 28 10.45
Magic +19 187 187 - - - 86 E E C - - - 43.7 41.82 32.3 32.3 38.42 28 10.45
Magic +20 192 192 - - - 88 E E B - - - 43.7 41.82 32.3 32.3 38.42 28 10.45
Magic +21 198 198 - - - 90 E E B - - - 43.7 42.16 32.3 32.3 38.76 28 10.45
Magic +22 203 203 - - - 92 E E B - - - 43.7 42.16 32.3 32.3 38.76 28 10.45
Magic +23 209 209 - - - 94 E E B - - - 43.7 42.16 32.3 32.3 38.76 28 10.45
Magic +24 214 214 - - - 96 E E B - - - 43.7 42.16 32.3 32.3 38.76 28 10.45
Magic +25 220 220 - - - 98 E E B - - - 43.7 42.5 32.3 32.3 39.1 28 10.45

Grossmesser Cold Upgrades

Requires regular reinforcement with Smithing Stone [1]Smithing Stone [2]Smithing Stone [3]Smithing Stone [4]Smithing Stone [5]Smithing Stone [6]Smithing Stone [7]Smithing Stone [8], and Ancient Dragon Smithing Stone, as well as Cold Affinity Ashes of War.

This upgrade cannot be enchanted with Magic or boosted with Consumables.

  Attack Power Stat Scaling Passive Effects Damage Reduction (%)
Grossmesser Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Sta Str Dex Int Fai Arc Any Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Bst Rst
Cold 93 74 - - - 49 D D D - - frostbite status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(66) 43.7 35.7 32.3 32.3 32.3 28 10.45
Cold +1 97 78 - - - 50 D D D - - frostbite status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(67) 43.7 35.7 32.3 32.3 32.3 28 10.45
Cold +2 101 81 - - - 52 D D D - - frostbite status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(69) 43.7 36.04 32.3 32.3 32.3 28 10.45
Cold +3 106 84 - - - 54 D D D - - frostbite status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(70) 43.7 36.04 32.3 32.3 32.3 28 10.45
Cold +4 110 88 - - - 56 D D D - - frostbite status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(72) 43.7 36.38 32.3 32.3 32.3 28 10.45
Cold +5 114 91 - - - 58 D D D - - frostbite status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(73) 43.7 36.38 32.3 32.3 32.3 28 10.45
Cold +6 118 94 - - - 60 D D D - - frostbite status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(75) 43.7 36.72 32.3 32.3 32.3 28 10.45
Cold +7 122 98 - - - 62 D D D - - frostbite status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(77) 43.7 36.72 32.3 32.3 32.3 28 10.45
Cold +8 126 101 - - - 64 D D D - - frostbite status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(78) 43.7 37.06 32.3 32.3 32.3 28 10.45
Cold +9 131 104 - - - 66 C D D - - frostbite status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(80) 43.7 37.06 32.3 32.3 32.3 28 10.45
Cold +10 135 108 - - - 68 C D D - - frostbite status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(81) 43.7 37.06 32.3 32.3 32.3 28 10.45
Cold +11 139 111 - - - 70 C D C - - frostbite status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(83) 43.7 37.4 32.3 32.3 32.3 28 10.45
Cold +12 143 114 - - - 72 C D C - - frostbite status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(85) 43.7 37.4 32.3 32.3 32.3 28 10.45
Cold +13 147 118 - - - 74 C D C - - frostbite status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(86) 43.7 37.4 32.3 32.3 32.3 28 10.45
Cold +14 152 121 - - - 76 C D C - - frostbite status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(88) 43.7 37.74 32.3 32.3 32.3 28 10.45
Cold +15 156 124 - - - 78 C D C - - frostbite status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(89) 43.7 37.74 32.3 32.3 32.3 28 10.45
Cold +16 160 128 - - - 80 C D C - - frostbite status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(91) 43.7 38.08 32.3 32.3 32.3 28 10.45
Cold +17 164 131 - - - 82 C D C - - frostbite status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(92) 43.7 38.08 32.3 32.3 32.3 28 10.45
Cold +18 168 134 - - - 84 C D C - - frostbite status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(94) 43.7 38.08 32.3 32.3 32.3 28 10.45
Cold +19 172 138 - - - 86 C D C - - frostbite status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(96) 43.7 38.42 32.3 32.3 32.3 28 10.45
Cold +20 177 141 - - - 88 C D C - - frostbite status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(97) 43.7 38.42 32.3 32.3 32.3 28 10.45
Cold +21 181 145 - - - 90 C D C - - frostbite status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(99) 43.7 38.42 32.3 32.3 32.3 28 10.45
Cold +22 185 148 - - - 92 C D C - - frostbite status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(100) 43.7 38.76 32.3 32.3 32.3 28 10.45
Cold +23 189 151 - - - 94 C D C - - frostbite status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(102) 43.7 38.76 32.3 32.3 32.3 28 10.45
Cold +24 193 155 - - - 96 C C C - - frostbite status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(104) 43.7 38.76 32.3 32.3 32.3 28 10.45
Cold +25 198 158 - - - 98 C C C - - frostbite status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(105) 43.7 39.1 32.3 32.3 32.3 28 10.45

Grossmesser Poison Upgrades

Requires regular reinforcement with Smithing Stone [1]Smithing Stone [2]Smithing Stone [3]Smithing Stone [4]Smithing Stone [5]Smithing Stone [6]Smithing Stone [7]Smithing Stone [8], and Ancient Dragon Smithing Stone, as well as Poison Affinity Ashes of War.

Elden Ring display values for poison and blood include buildup added by scaling via the Arcane Stat. The values on this table reflect the default values only. Your own Arcane Scaling will alter the number while inside the game. If you don't meet the arcane requirements for an arcane-scaling passive then buildup will show as 60% of the base values.

This upgrade cannot be enchanted with Magic or boosted with Consumables.

  Attack Power Stat Scaling Passive Effects Damage Reduction (%)
Grossmesser Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Sta Str Dex Int Fai Arc Any Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Bst Rst
Poison 93 - - - - 49 D D - - D poison status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(66) 43.7 32.3 32.3 32.3 32.3 28 11
Poison +1 99 - - - - 50 D D - - D poison status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(67) 43.7 32.3 32.3 32.3 32.3 28 11
Poison +2 104 - - - - 52 D D - - D poison status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(68) 43.7 32.3 32.3 32.3 32.3 28 11
Poison +3 110 - - - - 54 D D - - D poison status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(69) 43.7 32.3 32.3 32.3 32.3 28 11
Poison +4 116 - - - - 56 D D - - D poison status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(70) 43.7 32.3 32.3 32.3 32.3 28 11
Poison +5 122 - - - - 58 D D - - D poison status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(71) 43.7 32.3 32.3 32.3 32.3 28 11
Poison +6 127 - - - - 60 D D - - D poison status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(73) 43.7 32.3 32.3 32.3 32.3 28 11
Poison +7 133 - - - - 62 D D - - D poison status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(74) 43.7 32.3 32.3 32.3 32.3 28 11
Poison +8 139 - - - - 64 D D - - D poison status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(75) 43.7 32.3 32.3 32.3 32.3 28 11
Poison +9 144 - - - - 66 D D - - D poison status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(76) 43.7 32.3 32.3 32.3 32.3 28 11
Poison +10 150 - - - - 68 C D - - D poison status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(77) 43.7 32.3 32.3 32.3 32.3 28 11
Poison +11 156 - - - - 70 C D - - D poison status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(79) 43.7 32.3 32.3 32.3 32.3 28 11
Poison +12 162 - - - - 72 C D - - D poison status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(80) 43.7 32.3 32.3 32.3 32.3 28 11
Poison +13 167 - - - - 74 C D - - D poison status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(81) 43.7 32.3 32.3 32.3 32.3 28 11
Poison +14 173 - - - - 76 C D - - D poison status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(82) 43.7 32.3 32.3 32.3 32.3 28 11
Poison +15 179 - - - - 78 C D - - D poison status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(83) 43.7 32.3 32.3 32.3 32.3 28 11
Poison +16 185 - - - - 80 C D - - D poison status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(85) 43.7 32.3 32.3 32.3 32.3 28 11
Poison +17 190 - - - - 82 C D - - D poison status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(86) 43.7 32.3 32.3 32.3 32.3 28 11
Poison +18 196 - - - - 84 C D - - D poison status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(87) 43.7 32.3 32.3 32.3 32.3 28 11
Poison +19 202 - - - - 86 C D - - D poison status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(88) 43.7 32.3 32.3 32.3 32.3 28 11
Poison +20 207 - - - - 88 C D - - D poison status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(89) 43.7 32.3 32.3 32.3 32.3 28 11
Poison +21 213 - - - - 90 C D - - D poison status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(90) 43.7 32.3 32.3 32.3 32.3 28 11
Poison +22 219 - - - - 92 C C - - D poison status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(92) 43.7 32.3 32.3 32.3 32.3 28 11
Poison +23 225 - - - - 94 C C - - D poison status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(93) 43.7 32.3 32.3 32.3 32.3 28 11
Poison +24 230 - - - - 96 C C - - D poison status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(94) 43.7 32.3 32.3 32.3 32.3 28 11
Poison +25 236 - - - - 98 C C - - D poison status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(95) 43.7 32.3 32.3 32.3 32.3 28 11

Grossmesser Blood Upgrades

Requires regular reinforcement with Smithing Stone [1]Smithing Stone [2]Smithing Stone [3]Smithing Stone [4]Smithing Stone [5]Smithing Stone [6]Smithing Stone [7]Smithing Stone [8], and Ancient Dragon Smithing Stone, as well as Blood Affinity Ashes of War.

Elden Ring display values for poison and blood include buildup added by scaling via the Arcane Stat. The values on this table reflect the default values only. Your own Arcane Scaling will alter the number while inside the game. If you don't meet the arcane requirements for an arcane-scaling passive then buildup will show as 60% of the base values.

This upgrade cannot be enchanted with Magic or boosted with Consumables.

  Attack Power Stat Scaling Passive Effects Damage Reduction (%)
Grossmesser Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Sta Str Dex Int Fai Arc Any Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Bst Rst
Blood 93 - - - - 49 D D - - D hemorrhage status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(57) 43.7 32.3 32.3 32.3 32.3 28 10.45
Blood +1 99 - - - - 50 D D - - D hemorrhage status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(58) 43.7 32.3 32.3 32.3 32.3 28 10.45
Blood +2 104 - - - - 52 D D - - D hemorrhage status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(59) 43.7 32.3 32.3 32.3 32.3 28 10.45
Blood +3 110 - - - - 54 D D - - D hemorrhage status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(60) 43.7 32.3 32.3 32.3 32.3 28 10.45
Blood +4 116 - - - - 56 D D - - D hemorrhage status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(61) 43.7 32.3 32.3 32.3 32.3 28 10.45
Blood +5 122 - - - - 58 D D - - D hemorrhage status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(62) 43.7 32.3 32.3 32.3 32.3 28 10.45
Blood +6 127 - - - - 60 D D - - D hemorrhage status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(63) 43.7 32.3 32.3 32.3 32.3 28 10.45
Blood +7 133 - - - - 62 D D - - D hemorrhage status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(64) 43.7 32.3 32.3 32.3 32.3 28 10.45
Blood +8 139 - - - - 64 D D - - D hemorrhage status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(65) 43.7 32.3 32.3 32.3 32.3 28 10.45
Blood +9 144 - - - - 66 D D - - D hemorrhage status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(66) 43.7 32.3 32.3 32.3 32.3 28 10.45
Blood +10 150 - - - - 68 C D - - D hemorrhage status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(67) 43.7 32.3 32.3 32.3 32.3 28 10.45
Blood +11 156 - - - - 70 C D - - D hemorrhage status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(68) 43.7 32.3 32.3 32.3 32.3 28 10.45
Blood +12 162 - - - - 72 C D - - D hemorrhage status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(69) 43.7 32.3 32.3 32.3 32.3 28 10.45
Blood +13 167 - - - - 74 C D - - D hemorrhage status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(70) 43.7 32.3 32.3 32.3 32.3 28 10.45
Blood +14 173 - - - - 76 C D - - D hemorrhage status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(71) 43.7 32.3 32.3 32.3 32.3 28 10.45
Blood +15 179 - - - - 78 C D - - D hemorrhage status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(72) 43.7 32.3 32.3 32.3 32.3 28 10.45
Blood +16 185 - - - - 80 C D - - D hemorrhage status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(73) 43.7 32.3 32.3 32.3 32.3 28 10.45
Blood +17 190 - - - - 82 C D - - D hemorrhage status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(74) 43.7 32.3 32.3 32.3 32.3 28 10.45
Blood +18 196 - - - - 84 C D - - D hemorrhage status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(75) 43.7 32.3 32.3 32.3 32.3 28 10.45
Blood +19 202 - - - - 86 C D - - D hemorrhage status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(76) 43.7 32.3 32.3 32.3 32.3 28 10.45
Blood +20 207 - - - - 88 C D - - D hemorrhage status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(77) 43.7 32.3 32.3 32.3 32.3 28 10.45
Blood +21 213 - - - - 90 C D - - D hemorrhage status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(78) 43.7 32.3 32.3 32.3 32.3 28 10.45
Blood +22 219 - - - - 92 C C - - D hemorrhage status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(79) 43.7 32.3 32.3 32.3 32.3 28 10.45
Blood +23 225 - - - - 94 C C - - D hemorrhage status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(80) 43.7 32.3 32.3 32.3 32.3 28 10.45
Blood +24 230 - - - - 96 C C - - D hemorrhage status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(81) 43.7 32.3 32.3 32.3 32.3 28 10.45
Blood +25 236 - - - - 98 C C - - D hemorrhage status effect elden ring wiki guide 25px(82) 43.7 32.3 32.3 32.3 32.3 28 10.45

 

Grossmesser Occult Upgrades

Requires regular reinforcement with Smithing Stone [1]Smithing Stone [2]Smithing Stone [3]Smithing Stone [4]Smithing Stone [5]Smithing Stone [6]Smithing Stone [7]Smithing Stone [8], and Ancient Dragon Smithing Stone, as well as Occult Affinity Ashes of War.

This upgrade cannot be enchanted with Magic or boosted with Consumables.

  Attack Power Stat Scaling Passive Effects Damage Reduction (%)
Grossmesser Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Sta Str Dex Int Fai Arc Any Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Bst Rst
Occult 99 - - - - 49 E E - - C - 46 34 34 34 34 28 11
Occult +1 104 - - - - 50 E E - - C - 46 34 34 34 34 28.28 11
Occult +2 110 - - - - 52 E E - - C - 46 34 34 34 34 28.28 11
Occult +3 116 - - - - 54 E E - - C - 46 34 34 34 34 28.56 11
Occult +4 122 - - - - 56 E E - - C - 46 34 34 34 34 28.56 11
Occult +5 128 - - - - 58 E E - - C - 46 34 34 34 34 28.84 11
Occult +6 134 - - - - 60 E E - - C - 46 34 34 34 34 28.84 11
Occult +7 140 - - - - 62 E E - - C - 46 34 34 34 34 29.12 11
Occult +8 146 - - - - 64 E E - - B - 46 34 34 34 34 29.12 11
Occult +9 152 - - - - 66 E E - - B - 46 34 34 34 34 29.12 11
Occult +10 158 - - - - 68 E E - - B - 46 34 34 34 34 29.4 11
Occult +11 164 - - - - 70 E E - - B - 46 34 34 34 34 29.4 11
Occult +12 170 - - - - 72 E E - - B - 46 34 34 34 34 29.4 11
Occult +13 176 - - - - 74 E E - - B - 46 34 34 34 34 29.68 11
Occult +14 182 - - - - 76 E E - - B - 46 34 34 34 34 29.68 11
Occult +15 188 - - - - 78 E E - - B - 46 34 34 34 34 29.68 11
Occult +16 194 - - - - 80 E E - - B - 46 34 34 34 34 29.96 11
Occult +17 199 - - - - 82 E E - - B - 46 34 34 34 34 29.96 11
Occult +18 205 - - - - 84 E E - - B - 46 34 34 34 34 29.96 11
Occult +19 211 - - - - 86 E E - - B - 46 34 34 34 34 30.24 11
Occult +20 217 - - - - 88 D E - - B - 46 34 34 34 34 30.24 11
Occult +21 223 - - - - 90 D E - - B - 46 34 34 34 34 30.24 11
Occult +22 229 - - - - 92 D E - - B - 46 34 34 34 34 30.52 11
Occult +23 235 - - - - 94 D E - - B - 46 34 34 34 34 30.52 11
Occult +24 241 - - - - 96 D E - - B - 46 34 34 34 34 30.52 11
Occult +25 247 - - - - 98 D E - - B - 46 34 34 34 34 30.8 11

 

 




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    • Anonymous

      After 2000 hrs I thought I saw all There is to see In this game. Then a skinny boy pooped one of these out and took me by suprise...too bad it's a 4/10

      • Anonymous

        Killing enemies not doing it for ya? Try turning them into a gross mess with the Grossmesser! Only 4 easy payments of 1995 runes!

        • Anonymous

          It sounds strange to put it on the curved sword, but the flame affinity with faith and strength build is actually pretty decent. there are really not that many enemies who resist flame damage. I just wish they would have a bit more poise, but that would make them overpowered I guess

          • Anonymous

            Can't lie, I practically finished the entire game using the Grossmesser. It's very snappy, has great strength for it's speed especially applying heavy. Seems to make easy work of most bosses too. Under-appreciated weapon.

            • Anonymous

              i don't know how rare this weapon is, but i killed the first skeleton that throws pots at you in Tombsward Catacombs, popped a fowl foot, and literally got the drop first try from the skeleton that ambushes you from behind

              • Anonymous

                Free trivia: The plural of Grossmesser is Grossmesser. Not that it matters that much, it's hard enough to get your hands on one of them.

                • Anonymous

                  Using the incantation "Litany of Proper Death" makes farming for this SO much better. It makes the skeletons unable to rez and it has a deceptively massive AoE.

                  • Anonymous

                    This is based on a late medieval german weapon. Besides "swords", medieval germans also had "messers" (=literally knife). These messers were made in a similar way as normal knifes were, but as large as swords "Langes Messer" or even as large as two-handed swords (Großes Messer), the latter ones were usually more curved. They were often times rather simple and less expensive weapons without a lot of fancy stuff, but just as useful as swords. Both civilians and knights used them.

                    • Anonymous

                      If people want another farm spot, I found a good one. Go to Caelid Catacombs (the dungeon near the flaming spear knight).

                      You will know you are in the right dungeon when the first room you see is a scarlet rot floor and some flowers. The messer skeleton is right past those guys. Takes like 10 seconds to get to him from the grace.

                      I like this spot because while you are trying to get the messer each time you head to him you get two root resins for free.

                      Got two of them in about an hour. Been messing with them. I can see potential, but they look good and are fun to use. I really like them.

                      • Anonymous

                        This page has the parry AoW available to put on this sword, is that right? I know there is a parry dagger but I've never seen anyone parry with a sword.

                        • maybe the most normal weapon in the game. even straight sword has the straight sword moveset, which can be pretty ****ed at times. average strength-favored quality weapon, nothing special with damage even at +25. pretty fast, but not claw fast. can be infused with almost every aow in the game for small weapons. the only notable thing about it is how much it blends in with everything else.

                          • Anonymous

                            Was farming for this in tombsward catacombs for three hours, low level base item discovery, and got nothing. Went out and got a silver-pickled fowl foot, dropped before the first one I used expired.

                            • Anonymous

                              Wish all curved swords still had bleed like in older games. Especially considering katana’s still have it & it helps make up for the fact that slash damage is generally the weakest of the physical damage types.

                              • Anonymous

                                If a Catacombs has skeletons in it, you're practically guaranteed to find at least one of them wielding a Grossmesser. The downside to this distribution is that trying to bag multiple Grossmessers in a single run from any particular Grace is incredibly inconvenient.
                                — Courh the Explorer

                                • Anonymous

                                  Is the Tombsward Catacombs only place where the skeletons with this sword are or is there any other places where they could be?

                                  • Anonymous

                                    There is really no reason to use this over the bandit curve sword. Identical weight, identical length, same moveset, same scaling, lower AR.

                                    • Anonymous

                                      Ran the dungeon about 5 times for a drop. Knock down the fire thing and get to the room with the 4 skeletons. Reset after clearing that room. There's like 7 or so to kill in the run. Using Golden Epitaph makes the runs really quick and easy.

                                      • Anonymous

                                        Me, after having spent an hour farming a Beastman’s Cleaver: “this is amazing, heavy infusion plus Lion’s Claw, chef’s fist”

                                        Me, after having spent an hour farming two Noble’s Slenders: “Cold infusion super length proccy proccy proc proc”

                                        Me, after having spent an hour farming two Magma Blade: “tee hee it’s fun loopy fiery fun fun”

                                        Me, after having spent several hours farming two Noble’s Estocs: “they look nice, I suppose!”

                                        Me, after having spent many many hours farming two Grossmessers: “what is this useless garbage [gets a friend to drop me an extra broadsword instead]”

                                        • Anonymous

                                          "Ewww! You nasty ass Bastard! You ****in Nasty ass Mother ****er that's Nasty man! EWWW!" - FlightReacts (A Popular YouTuber)

                                          • Anonymous

                                            This is a kilij not a messer. If from is actually gonna put a messer in game they should call it a kreigsmesser(war knife) not grossmesser(great knife).

                                            • Is there literally any point in using this over bandit or scavengers apart from Elden Bling? Because it is one of the prettier curved swords. Not sure I can justify giving up the range of my ugly Bandits for it though.

                                              • Anonymous

                                                For those who want a curved sword without all the.. curves
                                                i can respect that desire in a character design

                                                You have my blessings

                                                • Anonymous

                                                  I really wish there was a Cutlass in this game. Then again, it probably wouldn't be historically accurate for it to be canon. It would probably be like using a Machine gun in Demon's Souls. It just wouldn't be fitting and would be a very bad concept.

                                                  • Anonymous

                                                    There's one pretty early on in the side entrance in stprmveil on a corpse. No need to grind. Unless there's a rng for those kinda pick ups that I'm unaware of.

                                                    • Anonymous

                                                      All these ppl posting 'I got 1 give me attention' and not mentioning where it dropped your comments are completely unproductive and useless you offer nothing to the community.

                                                      • Anonymous

                                                        farmed it in Tombsward Catacombs, prolly killed 80-100. There are 4-5 in my rute.
                                                        1. behind stonekey fog gate, it can be pulled at the statue without the shield/falcion wearing skelly.
                                                        2. progressing through you get to a bomb throwing skelly. behind the center pillar the skelly raising there has one.
                                                        3. skip and run to the left in the next room with the archers and level above. at the end of the hallway you can see a skelly he has the big knife.
                                                        4. the fire spewing pillar should be downed. run along the left side to you get to a blind end, here 4 skellies vil rise. 2 of them got it i think.

                                                        • Anonymous

                                                          Killed 100 of these with silver pickled fowl foot, nothing but a couple of bone shards. I reset the game, dumped all my runes into crafting materials, and then followed this process:

                                                          1. Arrive at the Tombsward Catacombs
                                                          2. Kill the target skeleton
                                                          3. Use Memory of Grace (discard all runes and respawn at last visited grace)
                                                          4. Pop Silver Fowl Foot
                                                          5. Kill the target skeleton

                                                          I got two in a row using this method. It's possible that this is a "rage quit" prevention thing that From put in? If you lose all your runes, you're rewarded with a hidden higher drop rate on your next kill?

                                                          Tried it about 6 times after, couldn't get a third. I guess if it's not repeatable, it's not a thing. :/

                                                          • Anonymous

                                                            just got my second one after about 20 min of farming with 260 item discovery. don’t hate me and good luck everyone.

                                                            • Anonymous

                                                              just got my second one after about 20 min of farming with 260 item discovery. don’t hate me and good luck everyone.

                                                              • Anonymous

                                                                I think the description is wrong. The skeletons that do not use shield and are rolling have Scimitar. Skeletons without shield and that are not rolling have Grossmesser.

                                                                • Anonymous

                                                                  Volcanic Manor used to be my favorite area in the game, I tried farming these and I can say that I am entirely bored of how the place looks and sounds.

                                                                  • Anonymous

                                                                    Dang almost there. After I saw this was in the game I was hoping there would also be either a katana or a curved great sword version of the Kriegmessser in the game too. So close, yet so far.

                                                                    • Anonymous

                                                                      Jesus this is rare. I have 300 item discovery and I've been running around the tomb for hours getting no weapons. I'm farming the right skeletons too.

                                                                      • Anonymous

                                                                        People saying that this is a quality weapon are wrong, this is a str curved sword
                                                                        A Heavy grossmesser with 99 str has a bigger AR (590) than a Quality grossmesser with 50 str and 50 dex (544)

                                                                        • Anonymous

                                                                          Quality is the best build for this baby. Longer reach than Bandit Curved Sword (hell, perhaps the longest curved sword in the entire game) while having a tiny bit lower AR. Has less weight, too. Highly recommended.

                                                                          • Anonymous

                                                                            My favorite irl sword is finally in a fs game! Too bad I will never get to use it because of the awful drop rates lol.
                                                                            Also the blade is a bit too curved to be a Grossmesser. (Not to say that messers can't be curved like this)

                                                                            • Anonymous

                                                                              Much as I love (actual) Großesmesser, this... Is not it. Love it to death, using a +25 Heavy pair in NG+ I can swap to cold, bloodhound or Seppuku (4 hits on run or jump kinda wild in PvE/PvP), but uhhhh FromSoft goofed. Messers are characterized by knife like handles, this is just a fantasy kiliç (Turkish saber)

                                                                              • Anonymous

                                                                                Strength builds rejoice, this thing is awesome with heavy infusion. Really nice to finish opponents off in pvp rather than trying to hit them for that last little bit with a massive weapon once they inevitably start playing reactive and spam rolling away.

                                                                                • Anonymous

                                                                                  I did managed to farm 2 (for powerstancing) with minimum stats in arcane + silver fowled foot. I prepared 6 foots, only used four. Best spot is tombsward catacombs behind the stonesword key wall.

                                                                                  • Anonymous

                                                                                    recently been collecting all the weapons in this game and stumbled across this one with every comment talking about how long they farmed for. Im so happy that i didnt go through the same pain as everyone else because I happened to get it after maybe 10 runs.

                                                                                    • Anonymous

                                                                                      got 2 in tombwards catacombs. It took me 4 silver-pickled fowl foot I don't know how many tries in total probably under 30. 15 minutes maybe of farming the stoneward key room. I mean is not bad as they say here

                                                                                      • Keep in mind that:
                                                                                        - This is a Strengh-oriented weapon.
                                                                                        - When farming it on Tombsward Catacombs, at the end of the initial corridor, only the skeleton on the left can drop the weapon (the one that has a shield drios scimitars).
                                                                                        - Using silver-pickled fowl foot will make the farming process exponentially more doable. It is quicker to go out of your way to craft them.
                                                                                        - I reccomend using the Sacred Blade ash of war to farm this Item; it will also speed up the process.

                                                                                        • Anonymous

                                                                                          This isn't a Grossmesser! Length is closer to a Langmesser, and the model clearly doesn't have a full tang. My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined.

                                                                                          • Anonymous

                                                                                            -Invades your world dual-wielding these
                                                                                            -Does 4-hit combo with one running L1
                                                                                            -Refuses to elaborate
                                                                                            -Leaves
                                                                                            My sellsword baby is back

                                                                                            • I just wanted to collect all the things! Good gods the drop rate on this is terrible! Even worse than the Beastman's Cleaver and the Magma Blade... at least that was my luck. I'm glad I have other options for dual curved blades!

                                                                                              All that said, most efficient way I found to farm these was to open the Stonesword key room everyone mentions. Just approaching the entrance of that room (don't cross the threshold) causes the Grossmesser Skelly to stand up. Hit him with the "Litany of Proper Death" incantation. Poof He's dead (no ground hit required). Then if there's a lootable, enter the room and grab it, turning around to blast the second skelly the same way. The second one does NOT drop the Grossmesser, so unless you also want a Scripture Wooden Shield or a Scimitar, skip him. You're probably only going to get human bone shards anyway! Then open your Map & teleport back to the grace (or just run back down the hall and rest, if you haven't cleared the boss here). Rinse and repeat until you get your drop (or you just cannot stand it anymore).

                                                                                              Not sure why other Holy Damage doesn't always perma-flatten these skellies! Having to smash them on the ground a second time after I KABOOMED them with Marika's hammer is frustrating!

                                                                                              • Anonymous

                                                                                                Much longer than the Falchion, and it appears to have slightly more reach than the Bandit's Curved Sword too. Great option for powerstancing.

                                                                                                • After reading the comments I figured I was in for a slog getting these. Well...I almost feel bad saying this but at only 185 discovery, I got two in 15 mins farming the first two Grossmesser-wielding skellies near the Tombsward Catacombs Grace. And they were back to back, lol.

                                                                                                  • Anonymous

                                                                                                    Farmed for this in the Tombsward Catacombs

                                                                                                    Farmed the one in the Stone key room next to the bonfire.

                                                                                                    I killed him 723 times before it finally dropped.
                                                                                                    seven hundred and twenty three times
                                                                                                    SEVEN HUNDRED AND TWENTY THREE TIMES
                                                                                                    I.... counted... every... single... one

                                                                                                    my... soul..... is crushed

                                                                                                    • Anonymous

                                                                                                      Farmed for this in the Tombsward Catacombs

                                                                                                      Farmed the one in the Stone key room next to the bonfire.

                                                                                                      I killed him 723 times before it finally dropped.
                                                                                                      seven hundred and twenty three times
                                                                                                      SEVEN HUNDRED AND TWENTY THREE TIMES
                                                                                                      I.... counted... every... single... one

                                                                                                      my... soul..... is crushed

                                                                                                      • Anonymous

                                                                                                        Farmed for this in the Tombsward Catacombs

                                                                                                        Farmed the one in the Stone key room next to the bonfire.

                                                                                                        I killed him 723 times before it finally dropped.
                                                                                                        seven hundred and twenty three times
                                                                                                        SEVEN HUNDRED AND TWENTY THREE TIMES
                                                                                                        I.... counted... every... single... one

                                                                                                        my... soul..... is crushed

                                                                                                        • Anonymous

                                                                                                          Don’t sell them sort! They have excellent range and work well on low dex builds that relies on faith or int scaling when infused

                                                                                                          • Anonymous

                                                                                                            This just seems like a worse falchion, sure the base damage is slightly higher than falchion but the scaling is worse and its harder to farm

                                                                                                            • Anonymous

                                                                                                              Huh. I don't understand scaling in this game. The falchion and grossmesser give around the same bonus for strength at +0 when you make them heavy, but the falchion is B while the grossmesser is C. Weird!

                                                                                                              • Anonymous

                                                                                                                It only goes up to B? Thats strange, falchion starts off with lower STR scaling but ends up as an A. Damn I invested so many stones into this weapon T_T

                                                                                                                • Anonymous

                                                                                                                  Very disappointing this doesn't look like a real Messer, rather, a weird scimitar/kilij/shamshir with a strangely large messer blade. Hopefully some amazing modder will make a mod to at least fix the handle sometime in the future.

                                                                                                                  • Anonymous

                                                                                                                    Took me around 20 mins to farm with 305 discovery (fowl foot = on), so yeah definitely has a low drop rate. tip: use holy weapon to 1 shot the skellingtons

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