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in a game where 70% of weapons are oversized if you put a realistick sized weapon it will look like a happymeal toy, case and point, my beloved warpick and mace

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They don’t stagger in pvp. So what’s the point? I don’t know if it’s a glitch or if they nerfed hammers poise damage into the ground but people consistently, sometimes many times in a row, passive poise hammers. So they’re basically a slower dagger.

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Morning star does strike on its thrust but scepter of the all knowing does pierce?

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The whole point of the hammer is that people don’t poise it and it’s cheap enough for a caster or heavy shield builds. 1.10 made it so people can consistently passive poise it AND hyper armor hammers. In 1.09, hammers hard countered thrust swords, curved swords and passive poise set up and were equal to great swords. Now, thrust swords and curved swords hard counter hammers and great sword laughs off mace with hyper armor. He’ll even my great club bounces off great sword hyper armor. Sword dance on literally any weapon can poise through mace. I hate what 1.10 did to this game. They gave us the worst part of passive poise and the worst part of hyper armor instead of balancing anything. And gave the main perk of fth builds to meta builds.

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At 99 str/dex, quality stone club has 809 ar. The wretch club has about 600-650 ar on quality. At max level the best affinity for normal club is occult, but stone club is best on quality.

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Another massive issue with hammers that’s fine overlooked: all the meta weapons got speed buffs for whatever reason. This means hammer is still very slow when fighting the meta. As several people below have noted: daggers do more damage, have better reach and speed with none of the drawbacks of a hammer. Even a pure str monster will do more damage with a dagger, or even better yet, cleanrot sword.

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In previous patches hammers held their own by beating down poise boys. But 1.10 nerfed these into the ground: you can’t even break GS hyper armor. Shamshir overpowers mace on raw dps of r1 while channeling hyper armor L2s stronger than maces own hyper armor or damage. I’ve had entire matches where I didn’t once poise break my opponent. So you’re basically using a dagger but with the drawbacks of a hammer. No wonder I’ve been using dagger or thrust sword exclusively since 1.10 ruined my favorite weapons and ruining PvP in general. I’ve gone from dueling for hours to dueling once a week. My favorite game doesn’t exist anymore :/

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We got one new hammer from the DLC.

One.

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Reach is very important with this weapon class, especially in PVP.

If you just need a basic bonking stick, I recommend the ringed finger. The hammer, scepter, and gavel have great range too.

The nox flowing hammer has great damage but the normal attacks whiff constantly against players or tall monsters.

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Is it just me, or are half of these not hammers

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These feel good to use after all buffs they got across patches. They could still use some forward momentum to compensate for the lack of range on most of them.

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Man, it's criminal we don't have a thor's hammer looking hammer.

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How can the Nox be the shortest hammer when it's model is one of the longest? And Warwick in the middle when it's one of the shortest looking ones? Is this a mistake? I thought the hit box is supposed to align with the visual image?

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What is the length of the new Flowerstone Gavel compared to the other hammers?

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Anyone else realize there are no actual warhammers in the hammer category? The only hammer we have is the stone one, but that one is kind of a meme.

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Pickaxe

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We need smithscript hammer for Thor and/or Steve Roger’s cosplay. — The Fist of Fury

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Niche but useful. But why does every other weapon class get to hit you for free after you hit them? The poise damage in pvp is too low but more importantly the hit stun is so short you’ll get hit right back. No. They won’t hit you right back, they usually L2 you right back. There’s also a glitch where people frequently passive poise hammers.

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One new hammer for the DLC... hammerbros... not like this...

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Btw it's glitched to where you can't look at infusion stats

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The one from rock golem in SOTE isn't obtainable ? :(

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I have no idea why but this is my favorite weapon class. Also the 2-handed back-step attack is weirdly over the top and i love it.

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I cant see cold variations, I think its glitched

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Based on pure stats alone, the Morningstar seems to just have better scalings or damage and the extra bleed too comes in handy. At least for a first run, it seems superior to most other maces you could use, barring maybe Envoy's horn with it's special AoW. I'm currently running a Morningstar and while I feel mildly uncomfortable using it, it's performed exceptionally well earlygame with a Sacred Flames infusion despite how bad I am at this game.

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If someone who understands how to work with these tables sees this, the base weapon table stays there regardless of which table you select with the table you want appearing below it. This behavior is unlike the behavior on all other weapon type pages and I don't know how to fix it. I don't even know enough to tell which edit caused this because the changes shown when I look at revisions are hard for me to understand, so I can't just roll the page back because I don't know where to roll back to.

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Club and stone club: unique r1 attacks much faster than normal, almost as fast as dagger.

Morning star and scepter of all knowing: rolling r1 and running r2 are thrusting attacks.

Mace: unique r2 that has more hyperarmor, especially 1-handed.

Spiked club: unique r2 that is a little faster than normal.

Monk's flamemace: unique r2 that does a funny stomp dance.

Marika's hammer, ringed finger, envoy's horn have completely unique and distinct weapon arts, that is saying something when many so many somber weapons have something generic like spinning slash. Like, even corpse piler (rivers of blood) is reskinned double slash. And I guess the nox hammer aow is kinda unique, but similar to the curved sword.

The hammer as a weapon class has a lot of things going for it, they are just unpopular for whatever reason.

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From's most neglected weapon class

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This might be just a me problem, but I hate how they gave 2 handed mace and flails poise. It's not even good, it's just that it looks really stupid, if I'm using a mace or a flail i want it with a shield, but Miyazaki decided using maces as a dumb club like a barbarian was the way of the future for these weapons.

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The weapon type of all time

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Speaking from a PvE perspective here:

Hammers, and especially those with the 'Club' moveset (i.e fast overhand strikes rather than the slower horizontal swings) are arguably the best Guard Counter weapons in the game. They share the same annoying Guard Counter animation as Great Hammers, albeit a solid bit faster in its animation. Hammers were nerfed in their poise damage to (annoyingly) be just under the 40 poise breakpoint for guard counters and charged R2s at 36.4 poise damage. 40 is an important breakpoint because a great many main bosses have Stance in multiples of 40. Margit/Morgott has 80, Malenia has 80, Radahn has 200, Placidusax has 160, Maliketh has 80, Godskin Apostle and Noble both have 80, Godfrey has 80, and Radaon has 120. There are a ton of other side-bosses that also follow this multiple of 40 rule as well.

With that said, being just under the 40 poise breakpoint is a bit annoying, but can be solved by using Cragblade which grants 10% extra poise damage, and raises any hammer to 40.04 poise damage, *just* enough to hit the breakpoint. It's unfortunate to have to give up both your Ash of War and a potential weapon buff to achieve this, but guard-counter builds are generally light on weapon buffs already due to needing so much strength and endurance to use heavy shields and good poise-break weapons. Cragblade does grant 15% extra physical damage, so all is not lost in that regard.

That out of the way, I'd say that a Heavy affinity Stone Club is probably the best of the bunch, as it boasts best in class damage, and has the longest reach of any of the Hammers with the Club moveset, which can be desireable due to its fast attack speed and quick starting frames. Horizontal swings are good for small amounts of crowd control, but that is not the Hammer weapon class' strong-suit.

Once you've guard-countered an enemy into a stance-break, it's best to weapon swap to a Fire Misericorde of course due to the solidly stronger riposte damage and low weapon weight.

tl;dr Heavy Stone Club with Cragblade is goated for Guard-Counter builds.

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Does the warpick really have longer reach than the standard mace? I'm testing it out visually, and the mace actually seems to be a big longer. They also share the same moveset. I'm unsure how to test whether the hit detection extends past the tip of the models, though. Anyone know? I know this wiki was put together back when the game came out years ago, but I figure not a lot of people use hammers so a mistake on the wiki could be overlooked for some time.

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If anyone wants to make a fix: there is a note added about Patch 1.08 on this page (and I think on the page of many specific hammers) that poise damage was reduced, but poise damage is increased for two-handed hammers. This is wrong.

According to the patch notes poise damage (which should probably have been called stance damage) was decreased for hammers. They do less stance damage to enemies than they did before 1.08.

Poise (not poise damage) was increased while two-handing hammers in 1.08. So, you are less likely to get knocked out of your attack while two-handing, but you are still dealing less stance damage than before the patch.

This conflation of poise and poise damage seems to have been posted across all relevant hammer pages, a well-meaning but misleading update in hammer functionality.

If anyone with editing access feels inclined to update the affected pages, thank you.

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IMO both hammers and basic axes should get true hyperarmor on their heavy attacks. You still take full damage, but at least you can get your attack off without fear of stagger. Would also help them get a lot more mileage out of the Axe Talisman.

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I never, ever touch these outside of a catacomb in any From game. If I want to use a hammer for anything but whacking skeletons, I play Bloodborne. Maces in these other gamers are the blandest of the bland.

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Why only hyperarmor when two-handed?

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I don't understand why fromsoft is so scared of making hammers or pretty much anything else besides ss, katanas, spears and so forth the best thing to use for everything.

I just want my hammer to strike fear in the heart of men, but unfortunately.. It was never meant to be..

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Feels really nice to use, got a good weightiness to it that most other weapon classes don't possess. Nice compromise between speed and damage overall. With the added thrust and range, I am 100% being honest when I say that the Scepter of the All-Knowing is my favorite weapon in this whole damn game, just a shame you obtain it so late is all

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Stone Club fux.

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Where reinforced club, dagnabbit FROM you had ONE job!

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The moveset on these isnt that bad, but the range is god awful, and they dont really have any good attacks for closing distance.

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grants 2 whole superarmor when holding with 2 handed and light attacking

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I wish hammers were better. They have had a special place in my heart since Demon Souls.

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For god's sake FromSoft, please give hammers a different guard counter animation.

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It's quite surprising that the Scepter of the All Knowing and the Hammer are tied in hitbox length. If you compare them in-game then the Scepter is clearly much longer visually, but the length graphics on this wiki are based on datamining, so I guess the Hammer has a disjointed hitbox. Scepter feels very lengthy though which is pretty cool, and its total AR is actually pretty good if you build for it but a lightning infused Hammer beats it for total AR and evidently has the same reach despite looking much shorter.

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Most of these don't really look like the typical hammer, I see a lot of clubs, I guess I'll stick to the warhammer for my Thor Build.

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scepter is kinda bad, but its length is nothing to sneeze at

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2 handing these and spamming charged attacks/guard counters is some of the best stance damage you can put out in pve, even if they arent all that great in pvp.

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Funny how both the longest and the shortest hammers have the most effective range

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Let the bonking begin

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It is ironic how Nox is both the shortest and longest hammer

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Sad that power stance doesn't get hyperarmor. Not like it's gonna be powerful, the PS moveset is still bad you'd be better off just 2 handing the hammer.

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I haven't tried the others yet, but the Mace definitely has hyper armor on the 1 handed r2 now, and a noticeable amount of it. It's feeling really good in boss fights.

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Rest assured my fellow hammer enjoyers, the hyper armor is REAL

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You made a mistake while updating, Two handling doesn't increase poise damage, it increases poise. aka weak hyperamor.

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They allegedly have DS3 style hyper armor now when 2 handed. Can someone confirm?

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Favorite weapon category :) but they’re all literally trash in pvp. They lose trades against thrust swords, have no priority against 2h curved swords. And don’t do the damage or poise damage they should be doing. I want these to get a 10-20% damage buff and a similar poise damage buff. They should be mini great hammers or great swords, just like past games. With combos gone, strength resistances made overkill and health pools massively increased in ER, hammers do less than half their former damage from past games and fail to overcome the resistances of strength builds. This logic only applies to hammers however, because other small weapons are still fast enough to land double or triple combos, have the range to roll catch or punish, have thrust and have short enough recoveries to avoid trades if they didn’t poise break.

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Am I the only one who wants a literal modern hammer for nail hammering in this game?

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Hammers are deceptively powerful in PVE provided you use the charged R2. 2-3 hits will knock down virtually everything including bosses; colossals aren't that much better at stance breaking but are slower, heavier, and take massive stat investments and tend to have bizarrely terrible hitboxes as you pull the weapon in close or swing it at awkward angles. Carry a Misericorde in your pocket with an infusion of choice and enjoy effortless criticals on everything in the game.

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Probably the best out of the crappy moveset bunch (axes, hammers, flails), with noticeably better range and quicker r1 chains.

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I want to love this weapon class, but holy crapped From absolutely murdered them.

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Just give them good poise damage From, Jesus Christ. Literally what hammers are supposed to do. This way I can actually murder crouch poke spamming idiots with my beloved mace.

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So the dual wield jumping attack won't stagger bigger enemies (like the various heavy knights you find all over) but the 1 handed jumping heavy will... why?? It's literally the same thing but with more hammer. The dual wield jump attack already does alot of poise damage so why not let it stagger? I want to like hammers darnit

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The hammer guard counter missing rats and dogs at point blank is frustrating, especially since straight-sword guard counter can hit/stun like 2-3 enemies at a time with its range. Working as intended?

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the hammers at the longer end of the spectrum are surprisingly good at rollcatching

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Hammer named finger:

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surprisingly good as an off hand weapon. the hammer, finger, and gideon scepter all have decent range and satisfactory damage, can easily stagger somebody into a thrusting sword or dagger attack.

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These things are really limited by their miniscule reach and very mediocre moveset, they aren't bad, they are just bland and not very fun to use imo, the fact they do strike damage is good though in of itself, and they are excellent at stance breaking though, so although i don't think they are particularly great, that doesn't necessarily mean you should sleep on them.

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Lmao those dudes in denial about nox, it’s go look up the source on YouTube, dude is pulling straight hit box information. Nox is shorter ranged.

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That’s it, I’m getting me mallet-

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seconding anon below me. i refuse to believe nox hammer can have the shortest range when its clearly one of the longest.

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Really? Nox Flowing has shorter reach than flamemace and clubs? It doesnt look like it, it doesnt feel like it.

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Underrated PvE weapon class. Beat some sap over the head with the crazy stance break build up and quickly swap to a dagger or something with a high crit multiplier and go to town.