Hand of Malenia | Elden Ring Wiki

If you are struggling to use this:
You MUST have at least 35 endurance minimum to use the skill properly in most fights.
You must level dexterity to 80 for maximum damage.
Both of the successive attack talismans should be used for good damage.
If you want to perform well you must have extremely high poise for the skill.

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Hit 20k on a troll with waterfowl dance with just the dancer set alone. Idk why people complaining about the damage, it's super good and stunlocks cleanrot knights and other large enemies.

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Something that can't get out of my head:

1 - Make this a Hiltless Katana, so you hold the blade it self

2 - Make you get damaged for 50 fixed damage from every hits you do to enemies and breakables

3 - Use Malenia's Rune to heal yourself on every hit

4 - Weapon Skill damages you more than the healing

5 - Make the weapon skill to jump forward even further, so the enemies need to avoid you just like Malenia, and not by running back

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Would be cool if it had scarlet rot instead of bleed (or on top of bleed)

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This weapon is insanely underrated. This weapon lets you breeze through the open world game and any NPC fight. Elden ring is an open world game and you spend majority of your playtime exploring rather than fighting bosses. Waterfowl is incredibly FP efficient and chain staggers most open world enemies. I would use this as a back up to nagakiba for open world and switch to nagakiba for bosses.

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I had a stupid idea, so here it goes:
Waterfowl Stance
Assume a one-footed stance holding the Hand of Malenia with both hands, perform a light attack to strike with a rising slash before slamming down on your foes, perform a heavy attack to rise to the air and dive in a flurry of deadly slashes which can be followed up by 2 repeat inputs
I know this'll make it very busted with Rellana's Cameo, but screw it, I just wanted to show the ER community my stupid idea :P

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Guys stop with this "Give it S in DEX"! Look at the base damage! With 80 DEX on keen infusion Uchi and Naga have 600 AR while this weapon has 640 AR! And no, you're wrong, it's both BEAST in PvE and PvP.

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Best Katana Hands down

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max this weapon, spawn a mimic and spam waterfowl against malenia and you've beaten her within minutes. Its spiteful but does the job :)

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the aow on those katana is very helpful in elden beast fight

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Whenever someone uses waterfowl AOW against me in PvP, I literally start laughing because it’s so easy to punish. I also tried doing a run with it, and it’s pretty mediocre. The range is great, but the AOW should deal a little bit more poise dmg, as well as dmg in general. Overall, kind of disappointing, considering who you have to beat to get it.

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Why can't this be buffed it doesn't have any split damage.

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Oh riiiight, Hand of Melania. The blade of Melania, blade of Miquella, Hand of Melania. The blade SPECIFiCALLY for Melania, Blade of Miquella, Hand of Melania. That blade?

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I just wanted to hold Malenia's hand

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I got stun locked by the first move, not sure how

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Dual wielded them on nG+ against messmer level 150, melted him to death

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I see two possible ways to make this weapon viable in PVP and perhaps equal to Messmer's Spear.

1. Buff poise damage by a bit on Waterfowl Dance. The poise damage on Waterfowl Dance currently is really bad, so most Meta-Slaves can walk through it, take the damage and bonk you, and it takes wearing some pretty light armor to get staggered.

2. Make it buffable. Allowing it the same treatment as Bloodhound's sword will give it ways to increase poise, mitigate consequences of its lower than average dex scaling, and help balance the gap for players on pure dex builds, and any buffs for pure Dex Builds on nonconventional weapons like HoM will help encourage build diversity and minimize the amount of dummies running Claws of Night and spamming Backhand Blades. Build diversity options is one of the keys to discouraging Cheese, as players do get bored with using the same crap over and over and want to try new things.

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This weapon's buffs in recent times has found it with the ability to quickly rip into tarnished on PVP for some gauranteed damage if they play too aggressive, however, the poise damage is so lacking that it really doesn't matter as they can tank the first combo and hit you with a Bonky Bonk blow whenever they like. They seriously need to buff this weapon in some way. Messmer's Spear exists so they have NO excuse.

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Seeing how fast sword of night I'd and how easily it leads into its separate attacks, im so curious as to why hand of malenia couldn't have something similar.

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Our incredibly watered down waterfowl dance got me thinking, we always get the same power as those we beat in case of the demigods and legends, and the tarnished are descendants of Godfrey or his mightiest warriors, what if we, the tarnished, are some sort of bastard child of the golden lineage, a demigod of copying so to speak

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Thought this would be good, completely wrong. I did all that just to get destroyed by every boss, And yes the weapon was max level the weapon is mid,

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Ohhhhh.... Look who found the bleed, the mantis blade lost!

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People complaining about B in dex but this weapon gets higher ar with 80 dex than nagakiba and uchi, while being 2nd longest one with unique weapon art that works with succesive hits, like what you need more? S in arc so you will bleed everything in 2 hits from AoW ?

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I feel like they were too afraid of making this thing OP in our hands, and made it underpowered. Still possibly my favorite dex weapon, but man it hurts that a random katana in Mountaintops outclasses it in about every way

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Why everyone 2 hand the hand of malenia ?

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Why everyone 2 hand the hand of malenia ? Like its not better with a other kata like nagakiba, idk, to have the moveset of 2 kata and still have the waterfowl dance.
Serious question plz answer

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Why everyone 2 hand the hand of malenia ?

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Here weapon should have S scaling and lifesteal instead of bleed! Also the range and tracking of Waterfowl is too short

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Use this with Lightning Nagakiba. Don't just spam L2 like chimpanzee that's not gonna help you. This sword is rewarding when you're using it with skill.

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1) Make it S scaling, NOT B scaling
2) Increase distance and tracking for Waterfowl
3) Remove Bleed and add Lifesteal

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How To Make it Better: 1. Make it S scaling 2. Remove bleed and make it life steal 3. Increase range of Waterfowl Dance

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Honestly, this thing needs hyper armour on the ash of war... It's so terrible considering how feared waterfowl dance is when you're fighting Malenia.

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Basically hiltless from demon souls, but uninfusible

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Japan ER: マレニアの義手 (Prothesis of Malenia)

Brasil ER: Hmmmm... Mão da Malenia ( @ u @ ) Será que ainda tá dentro do vencimento?

America ER: Hand of Malenia??????? Doesn't even look like a hand... It's a blade anyways.

Miyazaki: Because yes.

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i don't know how this works but i sometimes heal when using the ash of war, it doesn't seem constant, doesn't happen everytime and when it does it seems random i'm not using any talisman or armor that heals or her great rune

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B scaling.....on the weapon of a dex goddess......yeah no thanks I'm going back to my off-brand rakuyo

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What should I use to beat melania bolt of Gransax or cold uchigatana

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i think i figured out how to reliably use the ash of war. you need a stance break. spam charged heavies when you can, while also trying not to take a lot of damage. i see it now, this is a purely skill-based weapon that rewards good gameplay with a busted ash of war.

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Please make a strenght version miasaki

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this doesn't look like a hand. wtf

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Should have gotten S dex scaling and no str scaling
And some lifesteal, at the cost of dmg.
Still amazing, love the theme of malenia.
Not complaining, (even if it sounds like i am) its still super powerful and awesome.

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On a pure dexterity build running 18/80 STR/DEX Hand of Malenia will deal 43/42 higher AR than the Nagakiba/Uchigatana - which is actually a big deal since this weapon deals exclusively one damage type and therefore gets to ignore concerns about Flat Defense. Unfortunately even with buffs Waterfowl Dance is kinda situational and a little hard to make use of - especially against the DLC bosses that just straight up will smack you if you try to use it against them.

To me, this makes it an extremely effective offhand weapon to powerstance alongside your normal mainhand katana. This is especially so with the Nagakiba, since it has almost the same length. Mainhand Nagakiba with your weapon art of choice alongside offhand Hand of Malenia for having the highest damage possible and you'll find that your powerstance damage to be rather incredible. And you can still two-hand it if you want to use Waterfowl dance at any point.

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one of the coolest item descriptions

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I would've been happy if it just had no bleed buildup but higher base damage and/or scaling. Make it a bit unique as a katana focused solely on damage and not status.

Recovery on hit akin to great stars/butchering knife would also be neat.

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Hear me out guys. What if there was second version of this sword that leans towards faith so you can choose either this or original 48 dex version. Ashe of war would do the 3 part pink ghosts attack thing with you dashing with the weapon at the end.

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I use it as a LH weapon. Pretty balanced and still lets me use unsheathe on RH Nagakiba. Only downside is the delay in the ash of war, it leaves you hovering and exposed for a good second.

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I hear that people are disapointed to see that Malenia’s weapon itself is not strong enough, and therefore it is not respectful of the boss who is the strongest in the game.

To that I would tell people, it’s not the weapon that makes the boss, it’s how the boss uses it that makes it powerful.

So be better with. *drop the mic*

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I love this weapon but I wish it were better

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you guys know your supposed to pair it with malenias great rune…right?

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This weapon is honestly kinda disappointing for a boss as iconic and grand as Malenia.

It would be cool if it had the great stars heal effect on hit, since she life steals in the fight.

It shoulda had S-scaling in dexterity, since this is literally the highest dex requirement in the game, wielded by the fastest most advanced warrior in the lands between. Hell, I don't even mean make the AR crazy, just give it the S-scaling for the flair lol.

Also, no rot buildup? Just bleed because katana? Malenia is literally the reason rot exists, why is it not present on her weapon?

I love this weapon, but a lot of parts of it confuse me. It would be cool if there was some unique moves to it or something, but I understand if it doesn't get those.

Rant over lol

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It would've been cool if you actually used her prosthetic hand as like a glove or something to hold it instead of awkwardly holding the tang, cool weapon though

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Dex Cuck

- XQC a proper player with a proper stewnght build

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Heard people saying theyre disspaointed in this weapon, because "strongest" boss in the game should get you better reward. I disagree, its a wonderful weapon, especially for endgame when you have like A LOT OF DEX. I`m a weeb and gooner so this being my goddes weapon makes it even better. And its good for pvp tho too, even without spamming waterfowl

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I wish she DID have bleed build-up in the boss-fight, it wouldn't change much because the whole point of this fight is to not let her touch you so she doesn't heal like crazy. In exchange make waterfowl more fair and not limited to 3 dodge patterns you have to look up or spend 10 hours finding yourself

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bringing this into the dlc can help a dex build immensely against the gank squad before the final boss.

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Since it has a dance-type AoW, I think that the DLC dancer set can boost it

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I always fall on my butt when using weapon art.

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The stance break is so good. You can stance break large enemies so easily especially with the range.

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The stance break is so good. You can stance break large enemies so easily especially with the range.

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Eww dex build

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Using Waterfowl Dance below 50% HP or so should've infused it with Scarlet Rot like her 2nd phase...

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Bleed? Does Malenia's attacks inflict bleed?

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If this is her hand, can't imagine what Leg of Malenia would look like.

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Give me your hand woman!

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I love how on every weapon comments about it being waifu weapons are being down voted except here, everyone seems to agree that Malenia is the best woman in the game lol

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cant wait to defeat malenia to use this weapon...

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Eww dex, please make it strength weapon miazaki

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Use this against Malenia and waterfowl eachother to see who's top and who's bottom tonight, protip, she will be top

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blender time

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This long and hard curved sword was inserted into my body so often that I lost count

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This + godskin swaddling cloth + rotten winged sword is pretty much an easy mode switch

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Waifu sword

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Original user : show that she will use waterflow dance and make you scream with fear.
Cringe user : mimic , hiding , waiting behind wall or below lift to use waterflow dance and still fail.
Chad user : one hand this with seal only for use scarlet aeonia.

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For Ashina!!!!

- some guy who managed to infuse this with lightning

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why does this has higher dex scaling than keen nagakiba in the game files but have B on scaling while nagakiba has A

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I made a Katana only playthrough recently as I never liked the weapon class really much. While I still don't get what's so special about ROB and Moonveil, the hand of Malenia and the Uchigatana have won a special place in my heart, especially after the WFD one shot sir Gideon Ofnir the all spamming ! It's probably also good against rennala but I didn't get to test that theory yet, since I obviously did not safe rennala for after Malenia.

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"Adeino!"

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Wait can you stack blood flame blade with this?

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Nice I've gotten spiral cloud passage finally!

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I used this against Malenia and pretty much stunlocked her with her own waterfowl dance, then she got all close to me and threw me in the air and stabbed me. So romantic <3

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Requires that much DEX while also not even having at least A in DEX. Mega cringe.

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They Should Remove that Bleed Buildup and Increase the Scale of Dex to A or S

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Pros:

- Good reach
- Bleed
- WOOSH WOOSH WOOSH.... WOOSH WOOSH.... WOOSH..... WOOSH

Cons:

- Steep requirements make it unideal for most builds without planning around it
- Only obtainable very late game after tackling a number of hoops and tough bosses
- Requires you to fight the single most powerful enemy in the entire game while simultaneously avoiding dying of super-aids

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My Beloved! Great against mobile bosses with fast attacks when powerstanced, good reach, good against stationary bosses with the waterfowl dance, melts NPC invaders with a single waterfowl and is light enough to light roll even when powertanced if you wear very light armour and put a lot into endurance , which you should because waterfowl also melts your Stamina bar lol! I'm just happy that my favourite boss in the game has an amazing weapon! (Probably a biased opinion since I just LOVE Malenia as a boss...or maybe that's just the Stockholm syndrome kicking in)

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haha waterfowl go woosh

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weapon of a demigoddess empyrean that requires 48 dex can't even manage s scaling, what a joke

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>48 Dexterity requirement
>B scaling in Dexterity

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It is a Legal obligation to wear Malenia's armour and say "I am Malenia, Blade of Miquella" when using the waterfowl dance, breaking this law results in being punished by being smacked out of the first flurry, learned it the hard way!

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honestly one of the best pvp weapons after the 1.10 patch. I see everyone use it

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the timing for the follow ups on the ash of war are really weird

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Good for powerstanced katana until you have 2 Nagakiba, for now just use this inferior version of it

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This weapon’s skill has insane tracking. It can lunge forward on a target and then move backwards in the air if the target moves behind the user.

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THE FAQ DO YOU MEAN IT CAN BE BOOSTED WITH GREASE!?!

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"I'm L2, blade of ganker hosts and i've never known defeat".

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Im torn apart here...

I just want pure physical damage katana, no bleed, poison, magic none of that.

I get it, its a bonus and its me problem.

Hopefully the dlc would have katana similar to Blacksteel from DS2 with S scaling.

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One is good, two powerstanced is op like in "you are become death in pve and pvp alike" op, love it.

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insanely good for easily staggered enemies and bosses, absolute ass against those with high poise

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This weapon doesn't seem as powerful in the PC's hands....but then again, the PC isn't Malenia. So I guess that makes sense!

Malenia might be OP skilled....but the PC has immortality!

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I swear this and nagakiba have a 2 hit r1 true combo if you free aim sideways at people's toes and then swap 180 to the other side

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I am Hand, Blade of Malenia

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