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You don't need to respec to cast this:
The lowset base int you can get is 7
Marika's Soreseal +5
Stargazer Heirloom +5
Twinsage Glintstone Crown +6
Intelligence-knot Crystal Tear +10
Godrick's GR +5
7+5+5+6+10+5= 38
You can just reach the requirement by stat boosting gear

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Considering that the entire idea of Golden Order is to rationalize religion, it makes sense that "ideal" Golden Order is based purely on intelligence. It's just that most of it's followers are pretenders rather than actual fundamentalists. Gameplay-wise though it's a bit of an ass requirement

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"Reveals mimicry in all its forms" hoping for its usage on Miquella in dlc

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you have your physick.
I have Law of Regression.
and I chuck my physick after remove your.

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We should just have access to a talisman that turns FTH into INT

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Beat infinite CW cheaters with this simple trick.

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Does this thing make the bewitching branch effect disappear? Or weapon buffs? And destined death?

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This is meant for coop gameplay or being an invader if using it at the right moment. But it can easily mess you up or your teammates

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ayet another souls item that turns things into a game of lottery
lore wise i get the idea behind the spell, but i don't get fromsoft's priorities
to develop 100s of items around status-effect mechanics only to throw them all away with a big "NO" button

the real solution is this:
1. reduce FP, cast time or both
2. make it only BUFF-purge, rather than full BUFF & DEBUFF-purge
FAITH already has DEBUFF-purge, so it makes sense to give INT a BUFF-purging counterpart
that way only INT/FAI builds who sacrifice enough would be able to purge both BUFF and DEBUFF
rather than giving a free instant win button to mages

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i don't get fromsoft's priorities, to invest all their time/effort into developing 100's of items built around buff/debuff mechanics
only to waste it all with adding a big "NO" button, fromsoft do you even want status effects or not?
and at such a low FP cost, anyone who's investing more flask economy into de/buff mechanics has simply wasted their entire build
yet another dumb lottery-based gameplay item, 5% chance a wasted slot, 5% chance instant win button

the real solution is this: [delete it's effect against debuff status]
FAITH already has debuff purge, so it makes sense that INT would have a buff purging counterpart
if it only cleansed buffs/active spells, negating only 50% of status effect mechanics rather than 100%, it would finally make sense
then only a INT/FAI hybrid could use both, at the cost of significant disadvantages in other areas
rather than just a free one button counter for mages

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hurrr durr let's make a spell have high INT to progress the questline of a character who FTH users interact with more than anyone else

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Maybe there's a reason why every single Golden Order incantation requires INT to cast, but I don't know, I don't level Intelligence.

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people when the lore affects game mechanics: >:(((((
people when the lore doesnt affect game mechanics: >:((((((
people who enjoy the game either way: :))))

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Hey, let's make a quest for faith builds that depends entirely on having mid intelligence! What a masterpiece, great job Miyazaki, you've outdone yourself again!

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WHY TF DOES AN INCANTATION REQUIRE SO MUCH INT?!

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Gold experience requiem!

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If this was labeled as a Sorcery and literally nothing else about it was changed, I bet you'd see a lot less complaints. People act like it's such a big deal that this is an Incantation that requires no Faith, but isn't that true for 90% of Sorceries? The only difference between this and a Sorcery like Lucidity (beyond the effect and Int requirements) is that this requires the use of something like the Frenzied Flame Seal (which weighs nothing and has no requirements to use effectively) instead of a regular Glintstone Staff. That's it. Any Mage would be able to use this spell effectively if they took just a little extra effort to go get the Frenzied Flame Seal, you don't even need to upgrade it, and equip it in one of the six available weapon slots. Yes, this is an Incantation, but that doesn't mean it was designed for Faith builds specifically, I mean just look at the Aberrant Sorceries.

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Does this icantation remove the raising of status effect build-up that incurs upon applying an effect?
Example: If I apply a hemorrhage and the build-up requirement raises, will Law of Regression reset how much hemorrhage must be applied as though it were the first hemorrhage?

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"In this moment, I am euphoric. Not because of any phony god's blessing. But because, I am enlightened by my intelligence"
---Golden Order Principia, for some reason

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Nice set of buffs you have there Mr. Recusant. Too bad I have the "nuh uh" spell

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If elden beast spamming elden stars gets on your nerves and you're too lazy to go get the crimsonwhorl tear , Get this and it'll delete it immediately

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Imagine using this on Radagon and he turns into Marika

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If Faith builds are allowed to have over a dozen useful exclusive buffs at their disposal while Intelligence builds only get a fraction that amount, then it makes sense for Intelligence builds to get an anti-buff tool considering just how strong buffs can be in this game. As much I think there are potentially better solutions, this is much preferable than what happened in DS3 when its anti-buff tool was had no requirements and was usable by any build, and in the form of an infinitely purchasable throwable consumable that costs 500 souls (runes) to boot. And they somehow made it work in regard to the lore as well, so that's another plus, I guess.

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Small tip for Prophets pure faith builds:

This was my starter class, pure Faith build. I only had 16 STR and never invested in INT.
This means, i didn't had enough STR to use "Oath of Vengeance" (+5 All) and i also didn't had "Marika's Soreseal" (+5 Int), so i had to stick with "Marika's Scarseal" (+3 Int).
Even so, you can manage to get the STR needed to use the sword, by using the "Starscourge Heirloom" (+5 Str) + "Radagon's Soreseal" (+5 Str) + "Strength-knot Crystal Tear" (+10 Str).

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Golden Order Fundamentalism is not religious worship, it's philosophy of religion. Numen and Omen are terms popularized by theologian Rudolf Otto in Das Heilige; specifically, Otto used Numen as the noun form of "numinous" to parallel omen to ominous. Numen (which is what Marika is) are holy but necessarily without any kind of morality presupposed; divinity as made distinct from the good. The Law of Regression (and the Law of Causality, for that matter) is powered by an understanding of divinity, not a belief in it, which is why it requires only intelligence but is an incantation.

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Like, I get the lore of why, but aggggh this is so far in the other direction in order to use the best status cure incantation. The other four status cures only use faith, but this can replace all of them for 1 slot, but only if you level an entirely different stat than all the other support incants if you don't want to apply all these buffs everytime you want to use it. And not by a small amount either. Why do none of the other support spells encourage you to level int this far? All the other golden order buffs are 13 Int for none holy throwing! Aggggggh!

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law of framerate deletion

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Kinda hurts to sacrifice a memory slot as a mage for this incantation, but something like barrier of gold is too dangerous of a buff unless you wanna run around passively for its entire duration. Also you'll lose all trades with your magic infused weapons, so do yourself a favour and equip this incantation and perhaps even use another memory slot for Bestial Vitality.

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This thing needs either a range, poise or speed buff. The animation is slow enough so that if your opponent has any ranged ash of war, it will cancel you out of it, since it does not give you any poise boost while casting it.

Its the same speed as Barrier of Gold, and the only counter to it if you're a mage, but different from BoG, it gives NO extra poise while casting, and you need to get in range, as the AoE isn't really all that big

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Thats a nice set of buffs you got there. Would be a shame if someone were to...... regress it.

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There was a colosseum match where my opponent cast Barrier of Gold and I cast this spell. What happened next is we tried to override each other's spell the whole match lol.

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The God damn soreseal only grants 3 points....so **** this bullshit

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Hilarious that people complain about this spell and its quest still.

You can reach the requisite intelligence to cast it for the quest using only equipment and buffs. Glintstone crown, stargazer heirloom, intelligence-knot physick, grafted greatsword's oath of vengeance, godrick's great rune. You don't need to respec at all.

Secondly, the two Laws of Golden Order require only intelligence, not faith. It's a sort of gradient between pure faith (most incants), faith/int (Golden Order and its polar opposite, Death), and pure int (Fundamentalist laws). The closer you get to the laws, the less it is about believing in the source of the power and the more it is about understanding it. Goldmask upsets Corhyn by doubting "the holism of the Golden Order"; he didn't believe in it, he was only trying to understand it. And when he figured it out, the faith-driven Corhyn called him a madman.

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37 int requirement for a GOLDEN ORDER INCANTATION which by the way is MANDATORY TO COMPLETE THE PERFECT GOLDEN ORDER ENDING, with no faith requirement at all, unlike almost if not every single other Golden Order Incantation, and on top of that a completely useless one outside of just progressing Golden Mask's questline for the Perfect Golden Order ending... sounds like a blatant waste of a Larval Tear that could be way more useful, way to give us players a middle finger yet again Masozaki...

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vow of silence but dogshit

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Should be faster to cast an cost less fp

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To the fellow summon who just used this in our fight against Elden Beast, in the least likely spot you will ever see this question… Why?

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Good thing there are ways to increase Int without using larval tears.

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Does it remove Mohg's Nihil thing?

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Can we buff the speed of this spell please? It's too slow compare to barrier of gold

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le salt generator

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"But the young Miquella abandoned fundamentalism, as it could do nothing to treat the accursed rot". Must never have used this bad boi

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I'm not mad this requires 37 INT. I'm mad it requires ONLY INT. Every Golden Order spell should just have had dual INT/FTH requirement

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This would be alot cooler of it worked like anti magic field from demon's souls preventing any buffs within a certain area of effect for certain amount of time.

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can it reveal Rya's true form?

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From google-- Regression: 'a return to a former or less developed state'. From da wiki-- 'Nullifies any Sorceries or Incantations that are already active, like a Lightning Spear that's mid-flight.' It's a big old "No" spell. Reverts things back to zero. Eliminates what has happened. Gold. Quite an experience to get it. Requiem.

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Based on the definition of this spell, I think it would be not only plausible but also more viable for it to also have an effect on the mimic tear.

"Heals all negative statuses, dispels special effects, and reveals mimicry in all its forms."

It could dispel the mimicry of mimic tears in the eternal cities and could also be a viable option in PVP arenas where you could dispel the mimic tear spirit summon, or transform it back into its ooze like true form. This would be a much needed buff for a very cool but otherwise suboptimal spell and a much needed nerf for a very VERY powerful spirit summon.

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I recon this should of had an awkward stat requirement for everyone including Int users. Something like 18 int , 18 faith , 18 arcane. Or perhaps something alot different like a high mind requirement (now available to all at a price). That way its a reward for making a none meta build instead of giving int users a free pass. Love the addition of this spell in general though. Cuts through so much BS

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This should have nothing to do with INT, it literally looks like a Faith ability

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it's too slow and way, way too fp consuming... it's as if anything that has INT in it, it's 90% of the time going to be useless or incredibly underpowered vs Faith.

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Int users when the the oppenent sneezes

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lmao i didn't even know this existed as i ignored the incantation merchants as an INT build
my trip to the lake of rot would have been less painful if i had this

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Block all buffing consumables in pvp and problem solved. Buff builds still work but you don't need to grind to win. It will also save time in fights - you don't need to waste time on buffing or run around for buffs to expire. Blocking all consumables might be an option as well

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About the progression guide for low int characters... Marika's Soreseal is in Haligtree. If you burn the tree, you can't do the quest. So you're at 31 int after all of that.

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Does not seem to dispell Terra Magica or Holy Ground

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of all the people who could've gotten the "lmao no buffs", why the int nerds? magic damage is already overblown insane.

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Is there a range on this? or will this cure a poisoned invader across the map for example

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do you need the INT to remove buffs from people?

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For the cost and time it takes to cast this, I wish that this incantation had a lingering effect preventing buffs from being used for at very least a short time after being cast, since it's pretty easy to just reapply buffs right after it being cast, and by the time you finish the animation and are able to do something again, an opponent could have easily reapplied their buff of choice effectively making it pointless.

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For what little it's worth, you don't need to use the FF Seal to cast incantations you don't meet the requirements for. You can cast spells without meeting the requirements of your casting tool as long as you meet the requirements for the spell. If you had 1 faith, you could successfully cast this with the Erdtree Seal with its full effect.

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i cast this on an invader right after they drank their physick, i died shortly after but my host got them in time for me to see them die, pretty fun times!

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Nothing like the debuff that gets you stuck in animation long enough for your opponent to recast one buff and hit you before you can move...

I miss duel charms...

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Biggest complaint: Doesn't dispel glintblade phalanx's or similiar, or terra magica for that fact despite the wiki stating it gets rid of sorcs and incants that are active.

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'But if you cast that spell we would both be without buffs and our builds wouldn't work!', shouted the Bullgoat. 'lol', said his opponent, 'lmao'.

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From a pvp perspective this is golden. The thing is DMG stack compared to def stack is towering... I wish it was much lower skill point demand, it should be, but it is powerful so that's fair I guess. Anyone that whines about it needs to realize DMG stack is more than enough to slap people very hard. Idc how you try to justify it as a fellow min maxer I'm saying you don't need the buffs anyways because we're all walking bazookas. Anyone who taints their DMG output to use this has every right to rip someone's buff stack off. In ds3 it didn't stop people from weapon when you threw charms(for those oh they made it high requirement cause ds3 charms were busted), it's a fair skill. Should be cheaper, would like to see it more..
Yours truly, A min maxer who don't waste time buffing

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It is possible to cast this with 7 base intelligence as a prophet and even as a level 1 Wretch with 10 intelligence, so you don't have to undergo rebirth to further the related quest.

Stargazer Heirloom +5 int
Marika's Soreseal/Scarseal +3/5 int
Godricks Great Rune +5 int
Intelligence Knot Tear +10 int
Twinsage Glintstone Crown +6 int
Grafted Blade Greatsword: Oath of Vengeance Ash of War gives the last +5 int
You need 28 STR / 14 Dex to two hand the sword and use this WA.
This can be achieved with Godricks Great Rune, Radagons Soreseal, the Starscourge Heirloom, and the Strength Knot Crystal Tear for +25 Strength and +10 Dex.

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Here's the reason this costs 37 Intelligence: In Dark Souls 3, Duel Charms were a throwable item that stripped almost all buffs from the target and stopped them from casting any other buffs for 5 seconds afterward, and they could be bought for 500 runes and were in infinite supply. Thus, literally everyone used them and any build that even thought about using buffs were made entirely pointless because an item that literally anyone can use will invalidate the entire reason to even make a buff build. Even people who didn't plan around using buffs got screwed over because they now couldn't even use a ****ing Green Blossom or Pine Resin without someone chucking a Duel Charm at them.

This was their attempt at a solution to this problem: give it an actual cost. You now need to actually invest into countering buff builds. Are the requirements a little too high? I think so, probably yes, especially because of how potent and accessible buffs are in this game, Boiled Crabs and Exalted Flesh are premium buff items that would be worthy of being Duel Charmed. I'd be fine with this getting an Int requirement reduction to around 25, but any lower than that and, well, what's the point in having buff items in the game if you can't use them?

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Law of Trolling!!! :'DD

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The ultimate hatemail magnet. Shameful display.

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When you get summoned for a duel and the host applies 15 buffs.

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This spell requires intelligence rather than faith because Fundamentalism is theology/religious philosophy rather than blind belief. The highest order Fundamentalist incantations, the Laws of Causality and Regression, require no faith, only intelligence. You do not need to believe in the divine to understand it.

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PvP badly needs a Duel Charm (DS3) to remove all buff effects from enemies. It's ridiculous that this enchantment that requires 37 intelligence is the only way to remove buff effects.

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best weapon against people with bad computers. my friend cast this and my game almost crashed

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Look at all those would be a shame if something happens to them…

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I think you faith mains are complaining too much, you got 9 incantations who need int, we got 11 sorceries that need faith, and there is way more incants than sorceries

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Wait this uses int? Did from mess up the stat requirement code or something?

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From loves int so much they made the faith based side quest require int

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It's practically ASKING me to be a friendly invader, lake of rot here I come!!!

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They might have lowered the int requirement due to it's mainly being used in pvp. Don't understand why people are so obsessed with their 5% pvp buffs (beside barrier of gold and black flame protection) or just eating another piece of crab. But would have like to use it against some bs flasks like infinite equipment load one...

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1. Use regen buff to bait enemy to use flask 2. Use this 3. Flask up 4. Have Placidusax's Ruin incantation for finisher 5. You just dealt 1500-2000 damage to the other player if they were using regen tear and second chance and you still got yours. Definitely one of the PvP builds in elden ring.

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Tfw the law of regression user blasts 55 fp to get rid of a single boiled crab that has no affect on the billions of projectiles they're about to spew.

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For all the status effects it cleanses, it still doesn't seem to be able to remove all this copium

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I love thr concept of fundamentalism. The whole faith/intelligence thing is really cool. The issue i have is that there isn't a lot you can do with the hybrid stats besides meet requirements. The golden order seal and death staff are the only things that utilize both (please correct me if im wrong) and even at that, healing spells and possibly all others outside the fundamentalist incantations won't even utilize the int portion of the spell buff. If all I got was a quality version of the int/fth stats for weapon affinities, id be content. But all we get is sacred, which is purely faith, or magic, which is obviously purely int. Using each by dual weilding isn't great because of split damage. Maybe im missing something. Anyone is more than welcome to critique.

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This invalidates 90% of hybrid builds and just makes everyone go pure physical or bleed(that thing everyone hates) instead. This is another reason not to use anything other than bleed. Bleed is literally the hardest thing to counter while being the easiest to build for, you don't even need seppuku. Meanwhile a hybrid build that relies on a buff or something gets made 50% less effective or near useless because of this incantation that works only for anyone who puts points into INT for their build.

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I use tons of buffs and used to see regression a lot at launch. But nobody uses regression anymore. I think this is because there’s little pve application, everyone can have powerful buffs thru physic/consumables and regression is extremely dangerous to cast in combat for no damage. It is simply more dangerous to cast regression than to cast BoG. And BoG can be easily re cast, even under magic deluge. I’ve personally tried using it when my opponents are half health to remove the near-death tear or their regen, but it’s never worth the risk, my buffs are typically worth more than their buffs AND I would have been better off casting a damaging spell. Mages who rely on carian slicer don’t care about Barrier of Gold.

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I put people who use this cheap ass spell in the same category as people who spam BHS or RoB. I instantly sever whenever I see someone casting it. Get your broken ass spell outta my face.

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Will this cure scarlet rot on allies?

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You use law of regression? Cool, check out this new spell called "Law of Severing"

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I love this spell so much but int requirements on incantations is actually the dumbest thing. And don't try and tell me it's okay because the other golden order incantations have int requirements, that shits stupid too. You don't see half the sorcerys require faith to use

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haha funny int requirement for an incantation go brrr

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Elden Ring is Dark Souls 4

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Ok... so you're telling me that a questline tied to faith incantations requires you to cast a spell that not only requires 37 INT, but also does not have a faith requirement? I'm fine with it having a high requirement... but... INT? Really?

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simply don't pvp if you can't win without buffs, duelists will likely have this ready for people like you, Try invasions instead.

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Who TF thought it was a good idea to have a quest involving a guy who only sells FTH scaling incantations require an incatations with a stupidly high INT requirement to complete?

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genuinely sucks that this important of an incantation requires such a high int cost. probably one of the most important incantations for pvp but still will be impossible for anything but mages to use it due to the meta being rl125...

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does this effect pve enemies? bosses who spellcast?

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radagon is velka

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A guy casted this right after I buffed with seppuku, and a second time after I re-buffed. Wasn't even mad, I just played along using seppuku and letting him dispel it until I eventually died. I can see why this spell requires intelligence and bleed builds don't

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Casting this spell causes major framerate drops.

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