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The darkness and shadowbait spell should’ve been tools. Darkness would be especially good without having to use a spell slot. As for shadowbait, not much would change though

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If facing the red albinaurics or any annoying crowd and you don’t have wave of gold use charged beast claw. It has good range and spread, and pretty cheap too. Besides it can be buffed by godfrey icon, beast seal and cinquedea.

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Pink magic pretty pls :(

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So far I feel that most sorceries have a proper spot and explanation of their nature and connection to glintstone:

Thorn sorceries derive from blood, pain, blindness and a direct connection to the blood star which is apparently something different from the mother of truth (bloodflame). Red glintstone also appears in alberich set so that implies a star-like form derived from blood.

Crystal sorceries are depicted as an advanced form of understanding sorcery that is close the the primeval current

Gravity sorceries deal with meteors and gravitational forces, which can be seen as another form through which glintstone manifests by forces of push and pull as shown with alabaster and onyx lords, and there is also the fact that spells and astel descriptions tend to do some references to a “void” which is directly linked to the stars’ birthplace.

Death sorceries are seen as the result of burning bones to raise vengeful spirits and we’ve seen glintstone is residual life so it makes sense that ghostflame deals magic damage.

But I also feel gaps and some curiosities in regard to magma, moon, cold, bubble and night sorceries

Magma sorceries have the history of being ancient hexes brought into sorcerous use by rykard, having the gelmir staff which boosts them with a red glintstone, and a unique snake symbol when casting them. Besides there’s the fact that these are drawn from the magma of mt gelmir, but no explained relation to stars or glintstone directly besides the staff, unless lava can be considered as part of stars. Nor is there any link to why faith is a requisite for casting them unlike thorn sorceries.

Moon and cold sorceries derive from the moon itself and there are apparently two types of moons. Cold sorceries seem to derive from the dark moon. Now htf are moons related to glintstone idk honestly. But if stars are glintstone then maybe moons are stars of their own. Maybe.

Bubble sorceries have the notion of being “oracles” and cast by claymen, who were priests of the ancient dynasty, without any staff. The claymen are also vulnerable to holy damage so that’s odd, and I can’t help but notice how similar they are to oracle envoys bubbles. But beyond that there’s no explanation of what is their nature.

Night sorceries have the staff of loss which “misses” its glintstone but I believe it’s invisible. We also know these hail from Sellia which is culturally linked to the eternal cities. Besides they have the eternal darkness sorcery which is pretty unique and feels more akin to gravity sorceries. The rest are lore like another type of glintstone manipulation for the purpose of assassination.

Now both bubbles and night sorceries share the same symbol when casted, so they must have relation with the Uhl civilization that came before the eternal cities since the symbol depicts one of those giant thrones with skeletons found underground.

It feels kinda messy, like the balance between functional gameplay and lore notions is compromised in points like these. The lore of most of these sorceries will likely be expanded by dlc so that’s what we have for now, but I doubt much of this will be explained. Anyway the game is still very enjoyable in its lore and concepts

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Is glintstone icecrag slower than regular comet? If so it would make for something to spam alongside ancient death rancor and comet due to its delay

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NEW CONFIRMED DLC LEAKS AS OF 3/8/24

* A Blood Oath incantation that procs bleed instantly and even works on enemies immune to bleed
* A Primeval sorcery that summons a literal star from the sky that falls onto the map killing everything in sight instantly including you
* An Erdtree incantation that irreversibly turns you into a tree for the rest of the entire game
* A legendary Dragon Communion incantation that summons your mother-in-law
* A Kindred of Rot incantation that inflicts deadly poison to enemies by conjuring a burning dumpster from behind your local Denny's
* A Gravity sorcery that summons an all-consuming black hole that just deletes everything in the entire fu cking game

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I think they should add more spells and incantation cuz I'm bored asf

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Things like crystal torrent, smarag and agheel breath, giantsflame take thee, wrath of gold, moon sorceries and bf ritual can become better if you employ primal glintstone blade and the head scarabs for incants and sorceries for a 35% fp decrease

I haven’t tested it fully on dragon communion incantations so I can’t really tell how worth it these two can become compared to their lesser versions’ efficiency (mathematically, since I suck at that) but their 18% raw damage increase could shine since fp cost in total would go from 216 to 138.

Of course there’s the detriment of lower hp but it’s pretty good in early-mid game when your fp can’t see high numbers.

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In case nobody knew this by now, you can hold Up-D Pad to refresh back to the first spell in your Memory Slot.
This makes spells like Terra Magica or Golden Vow readily available at a moment's notice.

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Hear me out: pair shriek of milos with bloodflame incants and dragon seal with high arcane and you got yourself a monster in pve.

Shriek of milos decreases resistances by 15% and that includes robustness.

This even shreds haligtree knights when using bloodflame talons to stunlock them without having to rely on their raw damage

But tbh you can do so with mohgwyn spear

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Incantations are for having as much fun as possible with the game.
Sorceries are for deleting nuisance roadblocks that you spent hours trying to find a fun way to deal with, and just can't be bothered any more.

I really wish the latter wasn't as common as it is in ER, but at least we have a way around (most) badly-designed enemies / bosses this time.

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PVP and its consequences have been a desaster for the PVE chads.

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In the end what’s stronger in ng+: magma shot, roiling magma or giantsflame take thee?

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Holding out for Aspect of the Crucible: Wings and Aspect of the Crucible: Stinger in the DLC

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Pvp has ruined many spells that could’ve been good and I’ll never doubt it. Of course there are some whose designs were thought badly but:

Flame of the fell god
Stars of ruin,
Founding rain of stars
Elden stars
Blackflame ritual
AoTC: breath

All of them ruined for not being able to implement good features that would otherwise make people complain more about pvp.

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Over half of these are only useful in pve I would like to see more pvp oriented incantations and an update to increase the casting speed on flame cleanse me and beast Constitution also increase the casting speeds of stuff like the fortification spells (not the stronger version) and increase the power you get from the weapon buff incantations like electric armament and make black flame blade last longer

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I have a question: does law of regression debuff your allies too?

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How much stance damage does noble presence deal? It doesn’t say anything in this website about it

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A Faith player and an Intelligence player were doing co-op.

The Faith player began explaining why Incantations were the superior magic type. "I can cast group buffs and group heals for both co-op and Spirit Ashes! I have the best damage type variety of any build, and great status variety too. Not to mention I have better aesthetics. You cast with a stick, and I cast with my hands, so I'm cooler. Why would anyone want to play Intelligence over Incantations?"

The Intelligence player sadly wasn't paying attention, because before the Faith player was even halfway finished speaking, the Intelligence player had already cast six times and killed the boss.

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I believe that certain sorceries could be better if they were AoW allowed for staves, like Lucidity, Starlight and maybe Thopps barrier. Putting these spells in a slot is not worth it since they’re of secondary use, and it’s a pain to look out for these while in combat.

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I still consider it a crime that there isn't a catalyst that can cast both sorceries and incantations.

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I wish they would add a vow of silence like incantation but not do any bs int requirement like with the law of regression incantation, just pure faith requirement or if they must at the very least give it a very small int requirement (or just for the trolls make it a sorcery but have it only have a faith requirement so its like the opposite to law of regression). Int has a way to counter faith by removing buffs (most buffs that are affected by law of regression come from incantations) so faith should get a way to counter spells through a vow of silence incant. It will also have a trade off like with law of regression preventing both people from using any kinds of spells just as law of regression does removing buffs from both parties. Im gonna be honest idk what im writing anymore or how to phrase it but yall get the idea, im mostly just tired of dealing with both mages and prophets(?) spamming the same 2-3 spells at me and whenever i try to get close speed away with light roll at Mach 2. Also its just a cool spell.

TLDR: I want Vow of Silence in DLC but to have it without any bs int requirements like law of regression.

This is just my opinion if u think it should be different say it in the comments this was not very thought out and just a throw in the dark. idk i hate spell spammers

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A 3rd school of magic would have been cool. Something called Curses or Hexes, put Magama, Death and Aberrant sorceries there as those are kind of blasphemy themed. Add some spell equivalents like a gostflame fireball, magma weapon buff, summon thorns around body that builds bleed to enemies you touch, attack with a magic scythe similar to carian sorceries, Deathbird scream similar to howl of shabriri but builds deathblight, rykard's snake chomp, Fia's themed grab attack that steals HP, more necromancy summons like the giant skeletons, dunno.... Int/Fth builds really needed their own thing.

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Elden Ring easy mode

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Rise Tarnished

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It's great how all it took for int builds and faith builds to be good was to make the spells good AND fun.

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There really needs to be a whole class of magic that scales off of arcane. It was fine to subsume pyromancy into faith (and sorcery in the case of magma) since this isn't Dark Souls and the lore is completely different but having 3 magic classes was a good concept and it should make a return.

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70 sorceries and 100 incantations so far... how many do I still need to find?

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70 sorceries and 100 incantations so far... how many do I still need to find?

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They should've kept a third alternative to staffs and talismans. I miss you pyromancy...

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So many incantations to boost fire damage, fire defense, cleanse statuses, but nothing to just buff the weapon with fire, we have to use a grease or an Ash of War that can't be applied to all weapons. Thank you Fromsoft, very cool.

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Night shard and meteorite of astel are peak souls spells

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So, let's break this down:
Strength & Faith go hand in hand for Incantation(s) since Strength improves your character's Physical Defense while Faith provides plenty of versatile spells and improves Fire Defense on top of it.
Dexterity & Intelligence go hand in hand for Sorceries since Dexterity improves the casting speed of your spells that you need to fast and hard, not to mention the Magic Defense.
It is possible to make a hybrid INT/FAITH build, if you don't mind wearing a Burger King mask and using Azur's Glintstone Staff in one hand and the Erdtree Seal in another.

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"Golden Lightning Fortification" and "Protection of the Erdtree" have the same icon. For anyone wondering, they have both the "Protection of the Erdtree" image

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Is there a sorcery equivalent of frenzied burst in that it is a semi sniper spell?

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Hey so I dont usually play with magic in souls games and I wanna give it a try on a more melee focused character. What should I use?

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The GOLDEN LIGHTNING FORTIFICATION has the wrong icon in this list, it has the same icon of the protection of the erdtree.

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Reject virgin Comet Azure. Embrace chad Carian Sword Spells.

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it would be awesome if they add Sleep spells in the DLC

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Entire game is centered around trees and nature = zero druid styled spells

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Srs question how do I do a playthrough focused on magic without dying of boredom? I want to try something new, but the most fun I had was clearing out Gatefront with the Lordsworn's Greatsword, and now I just want to do melee again.

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The fact we don't get a spell commanding scarlet rot butterflies ala Swarm of Flies, dealing some physical and some scarlet rot build up alongside pretty orange butterflies is m i s e r a b l e

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They really didn't have to remove pyromancy. It was a cool additional playstyle that allowed true int-faith builds to exist. Int-faith that we have in Elden Ring is so underwhelming and disappointing.

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Add poison magic to either intelligence builds or incantations builds. Add a poison staff like the ones mushroom worshippers use and allow us to use poison magic. Also there's barely any poison bosses in the game that has any interesting lore and unless we count rot as poison.

Anyways, my point is add mushroom poison magic attacks since they are already utilised in the game and therefore should be able to be learned by the player, lore wise.

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Erdtree spells with plants attack. Please!
And more bubble, thorn, fire, ice, thunder, stone, stars spells.
What about chants to buff the players?

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I miss chain-casting. Yeah, it was an exploit, but so were wavedashing in Melee and even combos in Street Fighter II. But of course the scrubby Souls community would cry about something that makes the game objectively more interesting until it gets removed.

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would like more frost spells for a lich king build

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Currently running giants pyro incants with the Blasphemous Blade and Giants beard hair whip thingie... Trying to steal / Regen as much HP / FP as possible .. any suggestions welcomed

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there should be a dragon ending called the age of old where you follow greyoll quest line

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Would like death sorcery and some more black flame incantations

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I wish there were more Frozen Lightning spells. Actually, just more Frozen Lightning things in general.

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There should be just a regular fire buff like carthus flame arc from ds3

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idk if its just me but I personally just think incantations have a lot more variety, even though magic is way more op.

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Spell Boost. What is it, how is calculated, etc. No explanation whatsoever. Well done.

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I'm kinda torn on the spell list in this game. On one hand, I love variety. The sheer breadth of effects and flavor for spells unmached for games of this type, if not games in general.
But the flip side is that some of the magic types feel same-y or cramped. Having only two spells works for something like Full Moon Sorceries, since they're supposed to be the ultimate in big f**k-you blasting sorceries, but the Claymen Sorceries, for example, feel like they were just tossed in to fill the gap of sorceries with an arcane requirement. On the other hand, some spells feel like they got grouped in with each other to pad out the sub-school size and not because they actually have a strong thematic tie to each other.
Then there's the Dragon Communion Incantations + Placidusax's Ruin, which are certainly numerous and clearly connected, but they dilute the inherent "cool factor" of harnessing the power of dragon's breath over ELEVEN different spells when there's maybe three really distinctive effects between the lot of them. In contrast, simpler, less high concept ideas you might expect a few iterations of just don't have them. Outside of basic glintstone projectile sorceries and basic healing incantations, you're lucky to get a couple tiers of a spell. Weapon enhancements don't even get that much, and even Demon's Souls had two weapon damage buff spells.
All in all, I think I'd rather things were pared down a bit if it meant each school of magic could feel complete, but not overcrowded and still retain its own identity. Even dark spells from DS3 managed this better than some ER magic subtypes, despite being split and assimilated into the three main spell types.

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You know how Dragons Dogma had a light attack and heavy attack for archistaves which deal ranged magic damage so you could handle weaker enemies without needing to cast spells. I'd have thought by now they'd have done something similar with staffs, not super long range or high damage or anything, but something which means you can actually function as a staff user if you do run out of FP. Something cheap and cheerful that scales somewhat with INT and weapon level, means you'd have to actually find and learn your first spell and can 'finish off that group of mobs to get flasks back' because if you are a staff-and-robes purist and don't want subweapons or big bonks, you're stuck with a firm wack on the head until the next grace. The fact arrows and spells are still a finite resource is a shame.

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ho ho ho it's magic! you know!

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if anyone sees this tell me what is a staff that can carry to elden beast

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Fantasy rpg centred around a giant tree and there's no proper nature magic like roots, tendrils, vines and flowers. Not counting the thorn sorceries because they're made of blood, Scarlet aeonia is the closest we get - and melinas healing tree which we don't even have access to.

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Is there any point at all in having more than one copy of a spell per character? Does equipping 2 of the same spell do anything (if it's even possible; haven't tried yet) or am I better off just selling any extra copies I get in NG+?

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i dont care about efficiency or how much fp something saves in the long run. give me something grown up man. i wanna use spells that are legendary or was a ***** to get, i dont care how bad founding rain of stars is, or comet, or meteorite of astel is. theyre super badass and i like them.

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"Gallery (Inventory Sorted)" is the only way everything in this Wiki should be sorted. Im comparing my Inventory ingame with the Wiki to check what Items Ive missed, and because you can't sort Items by Alphabetical order in game, it becomes a nightmare.

By the way, the Gallery for Magic Inventory Sorted only has Incantations and is missing the Spells.

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I love how the fire incantations are named, I wish more games would experiment with unorthodox ability names like that.