Old Lord's Talisman | Elden Ring Wiki

very good with weapon buffs like black flame blade. lets you stack up a lot of DoT

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“Does not increase the distance a projectile sorcery travels.”

Too bad we don’t have a talisman for that. :( Even 10% would be nice.

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very underrated talisman, especially with regen buffs

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Does not increase the duration of Founding Rain of Stars. I tested this thoroughly.

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Does this increase the DoT from the black flame incantations ? or with black flame ritual, is it the pillars of black flame that last longer before needing to be cast again but the DoT is the same with or without this talisman?

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I'm confused by the wiki. Does this just extend duration of incantion buffs or would it also effect something like dragon breath incantations or pest threads

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This increases time of like helphen unique skill??

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Anybody use this with swarm of flies after the patch?

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The neatest thing about this talisman is that it is a clever nod to its DS3 equivalent. Dragonlord Placidusax, the Old Lord depicted, is literally a Lingering Dragon.

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Extremely yonic talisman. If you don't know what that word means, look it up.

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Does this increase the length of say the "black fire damage peel" where it's your fireball impact and health drain?

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Does affect Rallying Standard duration but not Golden Vow. I am assuming the skill has to be default, not applied from Ash of War for the duration to be affected.

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Interesting that this talisman depicts Placidusax as having 4 heads instead of two. At the very least, Placidusax's body when we fight him DOES look like it has a third, broken off head.

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It really bugs me how in every FS game this extends incoming buff duration rather than outgoing buff duration. Buffing the duration of outgoing spells would be way more straightforward and better for support builds.

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Okay, I read the page. What does “extend duration” mean for spells like Stars of Ruin? I tried it with Founding Stars of Rain, but I didn’t notice anything. I wanna know if it will be useful for me

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Bernahl invaded me just like the wiki said; but as soon as I backed up towards the ladder, he returned to his world. So I got lucky lol

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Does this make black flame blade last longer, as in the spell itself and not the DOT damage ?

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Curious if this extends the duration of Fia's Mist cloud and Darkness, both are Spells and both have quite the short duration, a 30% duration buff would make them more viable for unorthodox builds.

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Does it increase blackflame dot duration by 30% aswell? Dot does percentage of enemies health so the duration buff would make it strong no??

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Does this talisman effect the spell unseen form and unseen blade?

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It kinda reminds me of something....

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Really really needs to apply to all buffs casted. This would be a game changer in coop for a lot of bosses to play more support and super buff your team. If I could for example, keep Lord's Divine on my host for the entire Radagon fight, there would be so much more room for him to not get destroyed. Literally no reason for it no to do this imo since it is already a pure support talisman

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Does it work with the damage buff from Lord of Blood’s Exhaltation?

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This talisman makes you realize almost every buff in the game should have a longer standard duration, especially weapon buffs from spells and incantations. The way combat functions in both PvE and PvP leaves players little to no time to reapply buffs once a fight starts. Sure, it could be argued that it's a risk to take, but you're already spending FP, stamina, and a really slow cast for it.

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Does not work with: Food, Perfumes, or Physick (tested with Boiled Crab, Bloodboil Aromatic, Cerulean Hidden Tear, Leaden Hardtear)

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I hate that I can’t use this to extend Helphen’s Steeple. That sword would be god tier if the buff lasted closer to the duration of DMGS buff. Oh well.

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Does it affect spells like black flame ritual or bloodboon?

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Work on boiled crab?

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Does this increase the length of debuffs from spells like rannis dark moon?

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I can just imagine the DLC final boss being "real placie" who's got all his 4 heads and double the flame-beam spam

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Will my teammates benefit from the duration increase if I cast Golden Vow with the talisman equipped, if they do not have it equipped themselves?

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The best use of this talisman is in pvp when buffing with multiple spells, especially black flame’s protection. Black flame’s protection tends to fall off mid duel, causing you to take an additional up to 35% more damage. This talisman ensures that even against passive players most of your buffs will remain. I have hundreds of hours dueling and can confirm that most duels last about 40 seconds. Using commander’s buff last right before the duel almost ensures 100% uptime with this talisman unless you’re facing bloodhound step. I usually finger sever bhs users anyways…

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The best use of this talisman is in pvp when buffing with multiple spells, especially black flame’s protection. Black flame’s protection tends to fall off mid duel, causing you to take an additional up to 35% more damage. This talisman ensures that even against passive players most of your buffs will remain. I have hundreds of hours dueling and can confirm that most duels last about 40 seconds. Using commander’s buff last right before the duel almost ensures 100% uptime with this talisman unless you’re facing bloodhound step. I usually finger sever bhs users anyways…

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does this increase the effect of the perfumer's aromatics?
I.E. the ironjar and bloodboil aromatics.

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Could you equip this talisman, activate a spell/incantation that's effected by it, then un-equip the talisman, and still have the talisman's effect on your spell/incantation, since you've already activated your spell/incantation?

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They should've increased the durations or made more versions of this. I find buffs pretty underwhelming due to how fast they wear off and most fights take pretty long or sometimes getting even a hit in on an enemy or boss.

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Does this affect status duration or DoT such as rot breath and black flame?

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Casually forgetting to mention in the "Where to find" that this is guarded by an NPC invasion and a few enemies.

Oh Fextra wiki writers, never change.

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Does it work with triggered effects like warcry duration or consecutive attack buffs?

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As of 1.04, if buff are applied to your summons while wearing this talisman, they will not be affected by the extended duration like your character (tested with Golden Vow and Blessing of the Erdtree), probably an oversight.

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One of the coolest descriptions for any item in the game

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Seems like this doesn't affect anything that doesn't explicitly apply a buff of some kind, which is disappointing. For example, Fire's Deadly Sin's duration IS increased. However, Poison Mist's cloud duration and DoT duration are NOT increased. Black Flame Ritual's AoE duration isn't increased. Flame of the Fell God's explosion delay or ground fire duration aren't increased. Bloodboon's puddle duration isn't increased. Elden Stars duration isn't increased. Founding Rain of Stars duration isn't increased. This is basically just for extending supportive spells/incantations and has little-to-no offensive purpose, from what I can tell.

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It's worth checking whether this does what similar items in previous Souls games did for regen effects - it juts spreads the ticks out over the longer duration, but doesn't add any.

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buff durations are so short to begin with. they couldnt make this 50% increase?

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Does it increase the time of the lingering bloodflame from bloodboon?

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imagine if from put the lingering dragoncrest ring in the kiln
like imagine guys

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Is this worth it? Given most buffs last pretty long already. Maybe for Flame grant me strength since it’s only 30s at base?

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Does it make debuffs applied by spells last longer? e.g. Black Blade's HP cut, Full/Dark Moon's magic resist cut

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Pretty handy for paladin builds where you find you’re applying multiple buffs to yourself often. More of a convenience thing than something that’ll increase your actual throughput, but it is nice to have buffs last longer during those boss fights where it’d otherwise fall off near the end.

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Shoutout to the homie who made the map and path

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Does this affect DoT dmg like the ones caused by Godslayer Incantations?

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Tested with Dark Moon Greatsword buff to confirm, and it does not work.

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Does this increase you’re flask of wonderous physick?

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To clarify for everyone, this only works on BUFF INCANTATIONS (ie, Golden vow, Blessing of the Erdtree, Flame Grant Me Strength, Electrify Armament, etc) and BUFF SORCERIES (Scholar's armament, Unseen Form, Frozen Armament, and maybe Starlight), and has no effect on any weapon skill whatsoever.

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Does this affect Terra Magica?

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I cannot look at this talisman without seeing a cat

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Does it work with perfumes?

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Make a note that this affects HP/s spells positively, unlike DS3. HP/sec is unaffected, but increases duration, resulting in more total HP regenerated. Unless you’re running high faith with erdtree seal, this leaves instant heals obsolete except for niche cases where you need instant group heal in a pinch

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I sometimes hate this god damn wiki. Does it or does it not increase the duration of AoW buffs? Some dudes said that this extends the Rallying standard's duration by 9 seconds and according to this page that shouldn't be the case.

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Thanks to a comment posted about this buffing Commanders Standard (and making me use this talisman for my powerstance polearm playthrough! thnx anon!) I've tested Assassin's Gambit since it's a player-buff ash. It does not work, duration remained the same. Hopefully this inspires even more testers.

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does this extend flask of wondrous physick effects?

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I dont see me using this if it only increases spells and not skills

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Feels useless - it adds 9 seconds to Flame Grant Me Strength... like whats the point.

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If I am wearing this talisman, do My allies receive longer healing?
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If My ally is wearing this talisman, does HE receive longer healing?

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This talisman needs to be equipped at all times for the duration increase. You cannot equip swap it after buffing and maintain the increased duration.

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This extends HP Regen incantations! basically making them heal more

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Does this work with founding rain of stars?

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Does it extend the duration of how long a dragon breath attack lasts? I'm curious since if it does, it would make dragon incantations a great deal stronger if it gains a boost to attack duration.

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Does this count for duration of how long dragon breath attacks last?

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This talisman seems to show that Placidusax once had 4 heads! Woah.

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Does it extend the madness stun duration?

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Does it effect mix effects? Like no FP cost?

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doesn't extend Greyoll's Roar debuff

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Does this work on blood flies?

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this seems like the first souls game where using this to extend the duration of regen spells like blessings boom doesnt decrease the hp/sec. Blessing of the Erdtree still heals 12 hp/sec with this talisman on. I believe this effectively gives you an extra 30% healing from regen

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Does this work on moonlight's art?

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Does this work on moonlight's art?

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So is this confirmed Dragonlord Placidusax have 4 heads? i thought he/she had 5

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Just did some tests with a timer using spells and buffs that I normally have equipped.
Things this works on.
Commander's Standard Buff,
Scholars Shield.

Things this doesn't work on.
Jellyfish shield,
Terra Magica,
Eternal Darkness,
Founding Rain of Stars.

So it seems pretty safe to say that this only extends the duration of buffs on the player and buffs on equipment (that the player casts) but not the duration of spells on the field or increase the duration of ashes of war.
Commanders standard is an odd exception here, but the game must be treating it as a player spell and not an ashes of war because the buff applies to the player and not the weapon.

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Maybe warn about the hard invader thats guarding the chest

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Maybe warn about the hard invader thats guarding the chest

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Does this extend how long the spells actually last or the effect they put on enemies?

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does this affect Rallying Standars Unique Skill???

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I would really like it if there was a weaker version of this you could obtain a bit earlier

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I tested this with the ash of war barricade shield and it does NOT extend the duration. So it does only affect sorceries and incantations it seems.

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I want a +1/+2 that increases by 50% so badly..

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Can anyone tell me if this stacks with Flocks Canvas for Incantations?

If so does Flocks and Old Lord extend duration of say Golden Vow or Fires Deadly sin? Also what are the main differences between the two?

Id test it myself but I got the Gowry glitch, where he doesn't drop the Flock Canvas talisman.

Thanks!

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Looks like it gives black flame blade about 3 extra seconds.

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Seems to add about 3 extra seconds on it.

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Does this affect black flame?

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very curious if this applies to weapon buffs applied by Ashes of War?

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does this Work. with the Black Blade Dmg overtime?
or the Blackflames

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Does this work with seppuku

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Just tested, removing the talisman after applying the buff does not let you keep the extended duration of this talisman's effect. you need to have the talisman on at all times in order to take advantage of its effects and not something like apply buff with talisman on then remove talisman after applying the buff, it'll instantly revert back to normal duration..

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Does this increase how long a projectile stays active? Do swarm of flies stay up longer?

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30% is a huge increase for a talisman, not sure why people are complaining. You have 4 talisman slots.

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Extends the regeneration incantations by about 30 seconds!

Blessing's Boon goes from 720 HP to 936 HP.
- From 24 HP per FP to 31.2 HP per FP

Blessing of the Erdtree goes from 1080 HP to 1404 HP.
- From 18 HP per FP to 23.4 HP per FP

Blessing's Boon was already a great healing spell for it's efficiency, but now it's even more ridiculous. I think the biggest upside is that the regen spells are static numbers and do not depend on your incant rating, so you can have a nice efficient pocket regen heal for when you're recovering in downtime to save on Crimson Tears.

The base heals only start to become 'comparable' efficiency at very high faith (Like 60+). Even at 80 Faith with 353 Incant raiting, Great / Lord's Heal do about 1287 / 1485 HP, being 28.6 / 27 FP efficiency. Just something to think about!

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You get this really really late game, it only affects body buffs like regen and oath, as well as weapon buffs, and it takes up a talisman slot... 30% seems nonsensically low. Even on a build that cares about keeping up buffs as much as possible, why would I ever use this over other talismans that do far more powerful effects?

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If I inflict Scarlet Rot with one of the dragon incantations, does this extend the duration of that as well?

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Does anyone know if this affects spells I cast on other players? Say golden vow for instance?

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