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 Extends the duration of
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Old Lord's Talisman is a Talisman in Elden Ring. Old Lord's Talisman extends the duration of Spells by 30%. Players can use talismans in Elden Ring to boost a variety of Stats.
A legendary talisman depicting the ancient king whose seat lies at the heart of the storm beyond time.
Extends the duration of sorceries and incantations.
It is said that the ancient royal city of Farum Azula has been slowly crumbling since time immemorial.
Old Lord's Talisman Effect in Elden Rin
Old Lord's Talisman extends the duration of Spells by 30%.
Where to find Old Lord's Talisman in Elden Ring
Found in a chest in Crumbling Farum Azula. [Map link]
The chest is inside a rotunda on the east edge of the Dragon Temple Rooftop area. This area is accessed by heading north from the Great Bridge and entering the building there. Exit onto the balcony on the right, and take the ladder nearby down to the walkway leading to the rotunda. Beware as the chest is surrounded by Beastmen and, if you've killed Rykard in the Volcano Manor, you will also be invaded by Recusant Bernahl on the walkway.
Elden Ring Old Lord's Talisman Notes & Tips
- Sell Value:
1,000 - Affects both Sorceries and Incantations.
- Affects HP regeneration incantations, such as Blessing of the Erdtree and Bestial Vitality.
- This boosts their total healing and duration by 30%.
- Spells and buffs cast by other players that apply their effects on the talisman's user are affected, and have their duration extended.
- This is regardless of the player casting the spell having the talisman equipped or not.
- Does not affect spells or buffs created by Ashes of War.
- Does not increase the duration of buffs applied to Spirit Ashes (tested on 1.04).
- Does not increase the distance a projectile sorcery travels (e.g. Glintstone Pebble).
- The extended duration does not work if the player removes the talisman (i.e. cast buff, then remove talisman).
- The duration is not affected much if the player equips the talisman near the end of the buff.
- Testing results shows that the talisman adds spell duration based on the amount of time the talisman has been equipped, in relation to the length of the spell. This is always a 30% duration increase in relation to that time.
- An example of this would be: Having the talisman equipped for a total of 10 seconds would increase the spell length by 3 seconds. Having it for 7 seconds will increase the length by 2.1 seconds (rounded down), and so forth. Always having the talisman equipped will give the full benefit of the extended spell duration.
Old Lord's Talisman Builds
Trivia
- The effect of this talisman affects positively heal-over-time effects. This is unlike its equivalent predecessor in the Souls franchise, the Lingering Dragoncrest Ring, where only duration (but not total amount of HP healed) was affected.
Anonymousvery worth it if you rely on a lot of buffs for the bulk of your damage
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I'm curious about how it affects debuffs. Specifically Greyol's Roar. Looks like I'm needing out today.
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Does anyone know if this increases the time for Scarlet Rot inflicted by spells (Scarlet Aeonia, Rot Breath)? I'm assuming it doesn't.
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This+black flame blade incantation+beast roar= dovahkiin... Dragonborn! Fus ro dah! Break the law! ****ing cool! Oh my God!
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This does affect blackflame incantations but not by very much blackflame blade lasted just over two seconds longer according to the stopwatch on my phone but less of a difference to how long an uncharged cast of blackflame ritual lasted. It's debateable if this is worth giving a talisman slot over something with more substantial benefit.
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I read somewhere that this affects the burning duration for Black Flame incantations. Haven't tested this myself
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would have liked if this buffed greases too, getting more grease is a pain in the ass
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Does this work with Debuffs on enemies? I.E. Poison Mist, Black Blades' 'destined death' effect?
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very good with weapon buffs like black flame blade. lets you stack up a lot of DoT
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“Does not increase the distance a projectile sorcery travels.”
Too bad we don’t have a talisman for that. :( Even 10% would be nice.
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Does not increase the duration of Founding Rain of Stars. I tested this thoroughly.
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Does this increase the DoT from the black flame incantations ? or with black flame ritual, is it the pillars of black flame that last longer before needing to be cast again but the DoT is the same with or without this talisman?
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I'm confused by the wiki. Does this just extend duration of incantion buffs or would it also effect something like dragon breath incantations or pest threads
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The neatest thing about this talisman is that it is a clever nod to its DS3 equivalent. Dragonlord Placidusax, the Old Lord depicted, is literally a Lingering Dragon.
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Extremely yonic talisman. If you don't know what that word means, look it up.
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Does this increase the length of say the "black fire damage peel" where it's your fireball impact and health drain?
Does affect Rallying Standard duration but not Golden Vow. I am assuming the skill has to be default, not applied from Ash of War for the duration to be affected.
Interesting that this talisman depicts Placidusax as having 4 heads instead of two. At the very least, Placidusax's body when we fight him DOES look like it has a third, broken off head.
It really bugs me how in every FS game this extends incoming buff duration rather than outgoing buff duration. Buffing the duration of outgoing spells would be way more straightforward and better for support builds.
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Okay, I read the page. What does “extend duration” mean for spells like Stars of Ruin? I tried it with Founding Stars of Rain, but I didn’t notice anything. I wanna know if it will be useful for me
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Bernahl invaded me just like the wiki said; but as soon as I backed up towards the ladder, he returned to his world. So I got lucky lol
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Does this make black flame blade last longer, as in the spell itself and not the DOT damage ?
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Curious if this extends the duration of Fia's Mist cloud and Darkness, both are Spells and both have quite the short duration, a 30% duration buff would make them more viable for unorthodox builds.
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Does it increase blackflame dot duration by 30% aswell? Dot does percentage of enemies health so the duration buff would make it strong no??
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Does this talisman effect the spell unseen form and unseen blade?
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Really really needs to apply to all buffs casted. This would be a game changer in coop for a lot of bosses to play more support and super buff your team. If I could for example, keep Lord's Divine on my host for the entire Radagon fight, there would be so much more room for him to not get destroyed. Literally no reason for it no to do this imo since it is already a pure support talisman
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Does it work with the damage buff from Lord of Blood’s Exhaltation?
This talisman makes you realize almost every buff in the game should have a longer standard duration, especially weapon buffs from spells and incantations. The way combat functions in both PvE and PvP leaves players little to no time to reapply buffs once a fight starts. Sure, it could be argued that it's a risk to take, but you're already spending FP, stamina, and a really slow cast for it.
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Does not work with: Food, Perfumes, or Physick (tested with Boiled Crab, Bloodboil Aromatic, Cerulean Hidden Tear, Leaden Hardtear)
I hate that I can’t use this to extend Helphen’s Steeple. That sword would be god tier if the buff lasted closer to the duration of DMGS buff. Oh well.
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Does this increase the length of debuffs from spells like rannis dark moon?
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I can just imagine the DLC final boss being "real placie" who's got all his 4 heads and double the flame-beam spam
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Will my teammates benefit from the duration increase if I cast Golden Vow with the talisman equipped, if they do not have it equipped themselves?
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The best use of this talisman is in pvp when buffing with multiple spells, especially black flame’s protection. Black flame’s protection tends to fall off mid duel, causing you to take an additional up to 35% more damage. This talisman ensures that even against passive players most of your buffs will remain. I have hundreds of hours dueling and can confirm that most duels last about 40 seconds. Using commander’s buff last right before the duel almost ensures 100% uptime with this talisman unless you’re facing bloodhound step. I usually finger sever bhs users anyways…
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The best use of this talisman is in pvp when buffing with multiple spells, especially black flame’s protection. Black flame’s protection tends to fall off mid duel, causing you to take an additional up to 35% more damage. This talisman ensures that even against passive players most of your buffs will remain. I have hundreds of hours dueling and can confirm that most duels last about 40 seconds. Using commander’s buff last right before the duel almost ensures 100% uptime with this talisman unless you’re facing bloodhound step. I usually finger sever bhs users anyways…
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does this increase the effect of the perfumer's aromatics?
I.E. the ironjar and bloodboil aromatics.
Could you equip this talisman, activate a spell/incantation that's effected by it, then un-equip the talisman, and still have the talisman's effect on your spell/incantation, since you've already activated your spell/incantation?
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They should've increased the durations or made more versions of this. I find buffs pretty underwhelming due to how fast they wear off and most fights take pretty long or sometimes getting even a hit in on an enemy or boss.
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Does this affect status duration or DoT such as rot breath and black flame?
Casually forgetting to mention in the "Where to find" that this is guarded by an NPC invasion and a few enemies.
Oh Fextra wiki writers, never change.
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Does it work with triggered effects like warcry duration or consecutive attack buffs?
As of 1.04, if buff are applied to your summons while wearing this talisman, they will not be affected by the extended duration like your character (tested with Golden Vow and Blessing of the Erdtree), probably an oversight.
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Seems like this doesn't affect anything that doesn't explicitly apply a buff of some kind, which is disappointing. For example, Fire's Deadly Sin's duration IS increased. However, Poison Mist's cloud duration and DoT duration are NOT increased. Black Flame Ritual's AoE duration isn't increased. Flame of the Fell God's explosion delay or ground fire duration aren't increased. Bloodboon's puddle duration isn't increased. Elden Stars duration isn't increased. Founding Rain of Stars duration isn't increased. This is basically just for extending supportive spells/incantations and has little-to-no offensive purpose, from what I can tell.
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It's worth checking whether this does what similar items in previous Souls games did for regen effects - it juts spreads the ticks out over the longer duration, but doesn't add any.
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buff durations are so short to begin with. they couldnt make this 50% increase?
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Does it increase the time of the lingering bloodflame from bloodboon?
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imagine if from put the lingering dragoncrest ring in the kiln
like imagine guys
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Is this worth it? Given most buffs last pretty long already. Maybe for Flame grant me strength since it’s only 30s at base?
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Does it make debuffs applied by spells last longer? e.g. Black Blade's HP cut, Full/Dark Moon's magic resist cut
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Pretty handy for paladin builds where you find you’re applying multiple buffs to yourself often. More of a convenience thing than something that’ll increase your actual throughput, but it is nice to have buffs last longer during those boss fights where it’d otherwise fall off near the end.
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Does this affect DoT dmg like the ones caused by Godslayer Incantations?
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Tested with Dark Moon Greatsword buff to confirm, and it does not work.
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To clarify for everyone, this only works on BUFF INCANTATIONS (ie, Golden vow, Blessing of the Erdtree, Flame Grant Me Strength, Electrify Armament, etc) and BUFF SORCERIES (Scholar's armament, Unseen Form, Frozen Armament, and maybe Starlight), and has no effect on any weapon skill whatsoever.
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Make a note that this affects HP/s spells positively, unlike DS3. HP/sec is unaffected, but increases duration, resulting in more total HP regenerated. Unless you’re running high faith with erdtree seal, this leaves instant heals obsolete except for niche cases where you need instant group heal in a pinch
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I sometimes hate this god damn wiki. Does it or does it not increase the duration of AoW buffs? Some dudes said that this extends the Rallying standard's duration by 9 seconds and according to this page that shouldn't be the case.
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Thanks to a comment posted about this buffing Commanders Standard (and making me use this talisman for my powerstance polearm playthrough! thnx anon!) I've tested Assassin's Gambit since it's a player-buff ash. It does not work, duration remained the same. Hopefully this inspires even more testers.
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I dont see me using this if it only increases spells and not skills
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Feels useless - it adds 9 seconds to Flame Grant Me Strength... like whats the point.
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If I am wearing this talisman, do My allies receive longer healing?
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If My ally is wearing this talisman, does HE receive longer healing?
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This talisman needs to be equipped at all times for the duration increase. You cannot equip swap it after buffing and maintain the increased duration.
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This extends HP Regen incantations! basically making them heal more
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Does it extend the duration of how long a dragon breath attack lasts? I'm curious since if it does, it would make dragon incantations a great deal stronger if it gains a boost to attack duration.
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Does this count for duration of how long dragon breath attacks last?
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This talisman seems to show that Placidusax once had 4 heads! Woah.
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this seems like the first souls game where using this to extend the duration of regen spells like blessings boom doesnt decrease the hp/sec. Blessing of the Erdtree still heals 12 hp/sec with this talisman on. I believe this effectively gives you an extra 30% healing from regen
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So is this confirmed Dragonlord Placidusax have 4 heads? i thought he/she had 5
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Just did some tests with a timer using spells and buffs that I normally have equipped.
Things this works on.
Commander's Standard Buff,
Scholars Shield.
Things this doesn't work on.
Jellyfish shield,
Terra Magica,
Eternal Darkness,
Founding Rain of Stars.
So it seems pretty safe to say that this only extends the duration of buffs on the player and buffs on equipment (that the player casts) but not the duration of spells on the field or increase the duration of ashes of war.
Commanders standard is an odd exception here, but the game must be treating it as a player spell and not an ashes of war because the buff applies to the player and not the weapon.
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Does this extend how long the spells actually last or the effect they put on enemies?
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I would really like it if there was a weaker version of this you could obtain a bit earlier
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I tested this with the ash of war barricade shield and it does NOT extend the duration. So it does only affect sorceries and incantations it seems.
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Can anyone tell me if this stacks with Flocks Canvas for Incantations?
If so does Flocks and Old Lord extend duration of say Golden Vow or Fires Deadly sin? Also what are the main differences between the two?
Id test it myself but I got the Gowry glitch, where he doesn't drop the Flock Canvas talisman.
Thanks!
Does not increase the duration of Braggart's Roar (tested on 1.08.1).
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