Phantom Great Rune | Elden Ring Wiki

Is there a range on this? Will it buff all enemies or only the ones close to me?

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This item would be more useful for invaders if it spawned sanguine nobles around the invader (number dependant on phantoms summoned). I mean, what good are the pve enemies when they re designed to give trouble to a lone host, and become punching bags to cooperators? Mohg can send bloody fingers to other worlds, so having his great rune shouldn't at least make you able to mimic those invasions?

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There are two changes I'd make to this rune if I had the ability to do so. First, I'd turn the 13.5% Health Drain effect into a 15% + 100 self-inflicted Blood Loss effect, I think taking more damage is worth the exchange for not needing a Bleed build in order to proc the effect reliably. Second, I'd make the effect additionally apply to the user (perhaps at a lesser effectiveness) as well as other nearby Invaders, that way the Rune would still have a use if you invaded a world where all of the NPC enemies are already dead.

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The healing from enemies killing players in the Host's world is neat but a bit too niche considering how rare that would happen.

Instead, what if enemies killed in the Host's world heal YOU while the Great Rune is in effect?

That or an alternate idea, it prevents all Flask recovery for the host and any phantoms for the duration of it being active, would definitely even the odds against gank squads.

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This is the closest thing we have to a unique covenant mechanic. I hope we get more stuff like this in dlc

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Oh yay, another way to make rivers of blood even more broken yipee

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so what, you use this when the host is fighting bleed dogs?

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i like crushing these as a stupid edgy end of invasion emote

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So it isn't explained anywhere BUT: As long as you have this rune active, the blood buff actually applies IN YOUR OWN WORLD TO YOUR SUMMONED ASHE PHANTOMS.

So while this Great Rune is active, your summoned phantoms will heal you, and react to bleeds and all that. You can tell this rune is active by a red glowing flames aura that your ashe summons will gain.

It is very strange that this is omitted in the description, it is so major I'm wondering if it is a glitch? My current patch is 1.04.2.

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A shame. Not sure why this just doesn't buff mobs in general. You're already sacrificing a Rune Arc to use this anyway, isn't that penalizing enough? Using it near a specific mob should just give them an increased 10% damage and absorption or something. Something substantial. The fact it only activates when blood loss in nearby is pretty pointless. As someone who invades, bleed builds are pretty boring. Can't see myself ever using this.

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Rework ideas:

#1: Sacrifice 10% of your maximum health to summon the three nearest mobs, or the one nearest mini-boss to your current location.

#2: Sacrifice 10% of your maximum health to be able to use Spirit Ash summons as an Invader. This excludes mimic tear.

Thoughts? I thought of these because I want to solve the problem where you get ganked by people waiting for you to invade to catch you without any AI to help you. I also wanted to solve the problem of the AI not usually being present during a fight (it's actually fairly rare to get a fight with AI unless you're in a really narrow dungeon)

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Keep in mind, your max hp is reduced upon first use of the phantom great rune in a host's world.

Pretty useless for any non bleed builds since it's not worth the health trade off as an invader against multiple players.

There's very little scenarios outside of your own bleed builds to use this. That's if you pair up with Sanguine Nobles, those imp statues, or you're fighting against hosts with bleed. But relying on others to get the buff benefit is a poor choice when you keep in mind the trade off loss in HP.

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Yeah this Great Rune sucks, but I'll give a little credit to From for at least trying to create a unique Rune that sticks out from the lineup, not just some "here have another way of boosting your health" option

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I reckon this one would only be useful in areas that are densely crowded by powerful mobs. In Leyndell and Haligtree it may be useful

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You can trigger the effect of this rune by using Sepukku near an enemy.

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I invade A LOT and i dont give a **** about this rune.
Just make that when u kill a phantom u get an extra flask or smth

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Is this buff to enemies AoE specific or does it occur to ALL enemies within the invasion area?

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so situational that they're basically worthless. You have to be using a bleed build, then you have to have time to buff some mobs, then you have to bleed the host near the mobs before they simply run away, then the mobs can finally try to get a hit in before they get their little attack buff. What's the point?

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Through limited testing;
The only way to acquire these is through invading another player with Mohg's Great Rune equipped, and while active with a rune arc.
When invading you're given 3 Phantom Great Runes, alongside 3 Phantom Invader's Fingers.
The Phantom Great Runes - as noted on the wiki already - buff the enemies within the Host's world when blood loss occurs, these three runes recharge every invasion.
(I'm currently unsure if the mob buff is the same as the Exultation talisman in both duration and power, or if it's different.)
The Phantom Invader's Fingers allow you to invade the previous Host of Finger's world, and is only usable while invading, due to spawning in close proximity to the host every time, I've not had many opportunities to try and use this item.
Will try and update when I've tested these more.

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What does this rune even do?

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From my limited testing, acquisition seems only possible through invading while Mohg's great rune is equipped, and active through a rune arc.
You're given 3 Phantom Great runes per invasion, alongside 3 Phantom Bloody Fingers (these disappear upon leaving the host's world).
The Fingers allow a repeat invasion of the previous host's world, while the runes, as noted, buff mobs in the host's world when blood loss occurs, I am unaware how much it buffs them (whether it's similar to the Exultation talisman's numbers and duration or not).

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