Placidusax's Ruin | Elden Ring Wiki

I think the reason this isn't buffed by the Dragon Communion Seal or considered a Communion Incantation is because the ancient dragons, (Placidusax included) are made of stone. Arcane in Elden Ring typically relates to blood, which ancient dragons don't have.

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So, this is really weird. According to the wiki, you can control the beam "just like other dragon breath attacks." I think this statement is a little misleading, idk if I'm going crazy, but I think you can control the beam, but the "control" you have over it is NOTHING like the other breath attacks. First of all, you don't control it with the camera, you actually use the left stick. Secondly, you aren't actually "aiming" the beam when you "control" it, the beam has a set path it will move through, but if you move the left analog stick in the opposite direction the beam is trying to move, it slows the horizontal movement of the beam so much that it "basically" hits the same spot (not really but I'm sure someone better than me could get the aiming pretty precise with practice), but it's pretty finicky. also the beam changes direction halfway through it's animation, so if you don't move the stick in the other direction at the right time you can actually propel the beam away from your intended target at the speed of ****ing sound.

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i wish they used his nuke attack instead of this for an incantation

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It has 70 poise damage, basically instant initial shockwave and the beam is controllable by using left and right movement keys. Broken as a finisher in PvP and very good against large bosses.

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I duplicated the remembrance for this piece of s**t posing as an incantation. It has almost no control despite what it says here about being able to hit the same spot, my f**king arse hit the same spot, post a video clip or it didn't happen. This needs three memory slots and it looks like the devs decided that wasn't enough and made it uncontrollable. The named dragon communion incantations are many times better than Placidusax's ruin, and before anyone says it, I'm not throwing my rattle out of the pram over an incantation you need to use smartly, I'm all for having to think ahead and use an incantation or weapon art at its best advantage to get the most out of it. That's not what this is though, Placiduasx's ruin is worthless and again if anyone is going to reply saying they can hit what they aim at, post a video or it didn't happen.

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Do unused remembrances stay in your inventory when you start NG+ and will the mausoleums allow for them to be duplicated early in the NG+ playthrough?
I'd rather not have to wait until late game to beat both bosses again before I can get the second choice from the remembrances with Enia.

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Three memory slots though? that's a big penalty. Just out of curiosity, are there any sorcery spells that also require two or three slots to equip like some of the incantations?

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I call it placi's GNAAAAAA

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Flaccidsex Ruin

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Actually it makes sense why this is neither ancient dragon nor dragon communion incant. Placidusax wields red lighting and that is the weapon of ancient dragons and the color of the initial lightning explosion. BUT his incant is grouped with the normal dragon incantations, where normal dragons use their things.

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I AM MIDIR

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The initial lightning blast of this incantation actually comes out faster than anyone can react so it's an invaluable finisher in PvP for any faith build that wants to win in style!

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Good for scaring the gold-tinged-excrement out of people in closed spaces but not so good if you actually want to hit something you're aiming at

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Can confirm, the communion seals boost damage, but, instead of 15% its 1.5%

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if this is going to be able to be casted instantly then so should rejection. im tired of being trapped by enemies in a corner and i literally cant do a thing about it unless if i have 36 faith and 62 fp points.

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This catches a lot of people surprisingly enough. Most people will be able to dodge the first laser but almost always get hit with the last up strike and I have no idea why.

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cooler comet azur tbh

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I wish it didn’t have a wonky path at which the beam travels cause this incantation is really cool.

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Would have preferred any of Placidussax’s other attacks as an incantation than this or have this have only been one head with a more controlled laser with slow tracking instead of the inconsistent mess that it is right now.

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Placidusax Jumpscare

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The initial explosion is ridiculous. Honestly, I thought people were glitching, but no, it's just classic elden ring "balance". Let's nerf this please, the radius is huge and there is ZERO windup and i mean NONE. There is no way anyone dodging this period. Literally everything in this game is either underpowered or overpowered for pvp, but this **** might just be the reason I stop playing after 10 years. Ngl, an actual child could have balanced pvp better and we're 5 patches in, come on.

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What we wanted from midir in DS3 we get in ER from placidusax

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easily one of the best finisher moves for thunder based melee combat, the explosion alone is pretty much unpredictable in PvP and anyone below 25% hp usually gets blown away.
however, it's more suited as a counter attack rather than a direct attack, because if you miss you'll be wide open for a punish.

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This spell is ****ing awesome don't care if it's good or bad I love it

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Suddenly, King Ghidorah

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If you chain cast this with dragonclaw, the beam originates from the floor position of where you casted it. This is useful in PvP if the opponent decides to get right under you. Its probably a bug/glitch tho, pretty funny tbf

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Big Bad Beam

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15k combo damage (!!!) to fire giant in snowfields at 76 faith with+10 erdseal. Was mostly optimized for spell damage with talismans and buffs but probably could do more. It hit with lightning AoE then 3-5 hits with flames. Mostly it hits twice with fire, maybe 6k combo damage. For reference blasphemous blade flames hit from 2200-3100 on most mobs(not sure on fg)

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This spell is so busted in small arenas. Pop a mimic tear, and start spamming. It's an instant W against any boss who can be staggered. The mimic tear loves to use this, and when you both use it, the boss melts. It deals ridiculous poise damage, and is extremely safe after the buff. If the explosion and all three beams hit, that's an easy 4k damage.

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discount midir

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discount midir

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Can anyone tell me if this thing has hyper armor and when? If it doesn't it's bad. Casting time is too long. You will always get hurt if you are fighting a boss alone.

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Got caught out by this in PVP on my CGS character. We were both at low HP, him with his faith caster build ran straight at me so I got ready to bonk, and he blew me up. Very surprised by the initial explosion, caught me totally off guard.

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Had no idea this had an initial explosion. I was dueling on my bonky CGS character, fighting a Faith build. We both got each other low, and he jumped at me and finished me off with this. Savvy tactic.

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In PVP, get your opponent to <30% hp, jump in front of them and instantly cast this. They are dead. Nobody expects how fast this is and if it's the first and only time you use it in a fight, your opponent will be waiting to dodge your jump attack instead so they will never i-frame this. Absolutely unbeatable in that situation other than staying 10m away.

It is fairly punishable if you cast it without instakilling your opponent and the beams come out pretty slow if your opponent is using ranged attacks that can knock you out of it. The solution to this is to not use it for anything other than finishing off your opponent.

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Unleash the power of Kevin!

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Using this spell in pvp is the most fun I’ve had in a while. Invade people in crumbling ruins and knock them off!

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Aww man. The icon shows both heads and I can only summon one head to fire lasers? Sad.

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Bit disappointed that when using this you don't summon both heads at each shot a beam that starts at opposite ends and then criss-cross for some wicked damage and spread. Be more fitting of Placidusax's power and make it stand out more than the lesser, more typical Dragon Incantations.

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The initial explosion has some of the fastest damage frames in the game, even faster than Catch Flame. It is good in PvP to finish off a low-health opponent. Unfortunately, even with the free aim good opponents can learn to roll the beams and get a good punish, so it's utility in a 1v1 is otherwise very low. Cool to fire into a melee, though.

You can use this in PvP to either nuke large crowds of weak enemies, or as a stylish punish against bosses with long stun animations/phase change animations. At this level there's always a better option, but nothing looks this cool.

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why is this not a dragon communion spell?

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this incantation does not belong in the dragon cult category. Like catch flam, flame sling and fire's deadly sin, Placidusax's ruing doesn;t fit any category. Remove the false information

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Only good for low tier garbage, a lot of the dragon incantions you just get knocked out of or get exposed. May have some use pvp but i see no worth in pve. Not to mention it barely hits, is this meant for close range or long range? Just terrible.

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this thing is hard to control, doesn’t do too much damage, leaves you exposed for a while if you miss, and takes up 3 slots, so it’s practicality is rather limited. But I’d be lying if I said this didn’t look cool as ****, and so it has a place on both of my faith related builds for that very reason

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......Scale the damage down and change the animation so it can free aimed more easily. Seeing people say its nice for a finisher because of the explosion, but that's pretty sad you'd think since that makes up such a small part of the cast animation. It would be super nice to reliably hit with the beams just with lower damage to compensate.

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I think the incantation should have two heads, just like placidusax, as it would take away the issue of being easy to dodge in pvp and the lack of consistency in pve.

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Jesus Christ. You can summon King Ghidorah.

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3 slots for aoe damage that rot breath can do with 1 slot with far greater ease of use. nice.

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Oh hey Godfrey, are you still spamming your AoE attacks from back there? That's cool, let me just hover mid-air away from your attacks while i zap you with my Lazors.

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Is this lightning damage?

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From what I notice, spells and incantations belonging to the same type/school have the same background parchment art. For example, Blood incantations have the same background parchment with Mohg's sigil. Placidusax's Ruin doesn't seem to have any background parchment so I think it's unique and doesn't belong in any type at all.

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As people learn how this thing works, this incantation becomes more and more risky to use. If you fail to hit your opponent with initial blast, you are stuck in very, VERY long animation, and anyone is completely free to come to you point blank and blast your arse with whatever they want.

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Great as a finisher. The first part of it comes out almost instantaneously. Like faster then a dagger almost.

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So...has anyone managed to learn the "recoil pattern" of this spell like a CS spray? I'm going to **** myself the day I go against someone who perfectly aims this thing

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Elden stars and then this Jesus christ

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I find it extremely useful against Malenia. It staggers her and she can't even hurt you for the whole time of incantation. If you are struggling with soloeing her, I recommend you this spell

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Kind of hard to aim... reminds of me a tank's gun, the way it has limited elevation and depression angles due to the cramped size and short roof of the tank. Except, Placideusax isn't a tank, its a dragon head, so please let us aim it more, higher and lower! So fun to use and has some utility, its just so close to being truly amazing

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Spell Type: "Dragon Cult Incantation" - But not really:

1). Not listed with other Dragon Cult Incantations or any Incantations
2). Does not scale with any Seal or Arcane
3). Unable to Aim - lightning/fire goes all over the place
4). Cost 600 Stamina
5). Use 3 Slots

FS...Please Fix this Incant - this could possibly be the BEST Incantation in the game.

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Spell Type: "Dragon Cult Incantation" - But not really:

1). Not listed with other Dragon Cult Incantations or any Incantations
2). Does not scale with any Seal or Arcane
3). Unable to Aim - lightning/fire goes all over the place
4). Cost 600 Stamina
5). Use 3 Slots

FS...Please Fix this Incant - this could possibly be the BEST Incantation in the game.

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Spell Type: "Dragon Cult Incantation" - But not really:

1). Not listed with other Dragon Cult Incantations or any Incantations
2). Does not scale with any Seal or Arcane
3). Unable to Aim - lightning/fire goes all over the place
4). Cost 600 Stamina
5). Use 3 Slots

FS...Please Fix this Incant - this could possibly be the BEST Incantation in the game.

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It should be noted on the page for people who miss it: This does NOT require arcane.

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While not recieving any bonuses from any seals nor having a casting animation symbol as far as I can see, it is actually grouped with dragon communion spells in the menu, not dragon cult. Considering there are other spells that do not benefit from their catalyst but are clearly in a specific group, I think it is safe to call this a dragon communion spell. Also worth considering that ancient dragons CAST lightning, they don't breath it. They instead breath fire.
While the dragon cult uses the same magic that ancient dragons cast, dragon communion directly channels their inherent power, making this spell closer to that lore-wise. A dragon communion spell that happens to come from an ancient dragon, similar to how magma wyrms aren't technically dragons but they are close enough to channel.

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I'm sorry for those Dragon Communion bros out there. Being a Dragon Cult Incantation, this works to a devastating extent with my Faith/Dex Ancient Dragonlord Lightning Build. I usually use it as a finisher and damn does it make you feel like a destroyer of worlds lol I feel like Armin everytime I use this. (If you know, you know. I'm sorry if you don't!)

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does it, as of 1.04, still not ****ing count as a dragon spell? Come on! such a missed chance for one of the coolest abilities

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FINALLY, after 1.04, Placi's Ruin actually works as a giant **** off button!

After costing 3 spell slots, quite some FP, it now has P O I S E and deals about 4500+ damage across 3 beam hits.

Tested in NG+7 against the Cleanrot just by Elphael's Prayer Room at 80 ARC and the faithful canvas, with the dragon seal. It was enough damage to actually kill the knight.

Granted it may still suck against big bosses but at least it's good for the mid-tier, miniboss worthy enemies

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Finishing a boss with this really makes you feel like King Ghidorah.

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The cast seems to generate a knockback explosion dealing 60% of a single beam tick, or 20% of the total potential damage (640, then 3100 across 3 beams)

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Why does it have instant AOE? It's like from hates PvP

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For those wondering, this is not a dragon communion spell because communion spells require you to literally eat the heart of the dragon. You aren't eating Placidusax's heart to get the spell, you're transposing it from his remembrance.

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It’s really a shame that 90% of incantations are completely impractical, their some of the coolest stuff in the game and really brings out the feeling of being in a fantasy world, hopefully one day from will make a game where all of them are useable Instead of just the basic “throw _____ at enemy” spells

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True combo with storm stop destroys the world

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Dragonlord drops zilch for an arcane build…

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The beginning of this spell reminds me of Wrath of the Gods, it's an explosion that comes out really fast and deals a large chunk of damage. The dragon breath attack that comes out afterward is just a nice bonus. (Or detriment if your opponent manages to dodge the explosion, they can get free hits in while by standing next to you, while you are stuck shooting a laser beam that you can't aim down with.)

If you know that your enemy has less health then the explosion, you can kill them with it nearly instantaneously. It's kinda busted in PvP, to be honest.

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TESTING DONE ON THE SPELL:

tested on the man-serpent (fire immune enemy) outside of the "Prison Town Church" cite of grace. Reasons:
- can be tested if the burst portion of the spell deals lightning or holy damage using the corresponding scorpion charms.
- can be tested if the beam portion of the spell deals fire or holy damage taking advantage of the fact man-serpents are immune to fire damage.
Testing done using on separate times a gravel stone seal+20 (310 incant scaling) and a dragon communion seal+10 (313 incant scaling) on 10 strength, 99 faith and 30 arcane.

RESULTS:

- the burst portion of the spell is being affected by the lighting scorpion charms: deals lightning damage.
- the beam portion of the spell does not deal any damage on the ma-serpent meaning it deals fire damage.
- on a man-serpent unaware of player (hasn't noticed them yet) the the aforementioned gravel stone seal dealt 1000 damage on the lightning burst part (with lightning scorpion charm) whilst the dragon communion seal dealt 1011 damage on the lightning burst (with lightning scorpion charm): If the spell belonged to the dragon communion spells it would deal around 15% more damage with the dragon communion seal than with the gravel stone one seeing how the have almost identical incant scaling. IT IS NOT A DRAGON COMMUNION INCANTATION. If the spell belonged to the dragon occult spells it would deal around 15% damage with the gravel stone seal than with the dragon communion seal. IT IS NOT A DRAGON CULT INCANTATION EITHER. It seems Placidusax' ruin is the only spell in the game that cannot be grouped with any of the other existing ones, and does not belong in any category of incantations. So, it's technically correct that this is not a dragon communion spell, but it is not considered a dragon cult incantation either.

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TESTING DONE ON THE SPELL:

tested on the man-serpent (fire immune enemy) outside of the "Prison Town Church" cite of grace. Reasons:
- can be tested if the burst portion of the spell deals lightning or holy damage using the corresponding scorpion charms.
- can be tested if the beam portion of the spell deals fire or holy damage taking advantage of the fact man-serpents are immune to fire damage.
Testing done using on separate times a gravel stone seal+20 (310 incant scaling) and a dragon communion seal+10 (313 incant scaling) on 10 strength, 99 faith and 30 arcane.

RESULTS:

- the burst portion of the spell is being affected by the lighting scorpion charms: deals lightning damage.
- the beam portion of the spell does not deal any damage on the ma-serpent meaning it deals fire damage.
- on a man-serpent unaware of player (hasn't noticed them yet) the the aforementioned gravel stone seal dealt 1000 damage on the lightning burst part (with lightning scorpion charm) whilst the dragon communion seal dealt 1011 damage on the lightning burst (with lightning scorpion charm): If the spell belonged to the dragon communion spells it would deal around 15% more damage with the dragon communion seal than with the gravel stone one seeing how the have almost identical incant scaling. IT IS NOT A DRAGON COMMUNION INCANTATION. If the spell belonged to the dragon occult spells it would deal around 15% damage with the gravel stone seal than with the dragon communion seal. IT IS NOT A DRAGON CULT INCANTATION EITHER. It seems Placidusax' ruin is the only spell in the game that cannot be grouped with any of the other existing ones, and does not belong in any category of incantations. So, it's technically correct that this is not a dragon communion spell, but it is not considered a dragon cult incantation either.

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It should have been a chain casting spell imo. First cast makes the explosion and a vertical breath, chaining it should cause horizontal swings (with much better tracking). Hate how it locks you into place for so long, making it very impractical.

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You thought you were fighting a pyromancer, but it was me, Placidusax!

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The instant damage explosion upon cast is pretty busted in PvP

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This spell is not considered a dragon cult incantation. It does not activate the dragon cult sigil when casted, does not get boosted by the corresponding gravel stone seal, and not only that it doesn't appear anywhere close to the rest of the dragon cult incantations. Not to mention the damage it deals is purely H O L Y, neither lightning nor fire on both the burst part and the breath part

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Best used in the hands of the mimic he shreds with this thing

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This Incantation has been stealthily buffed imo.

Using this in the initial builds vs now it seems to hit much better and do much more decent damage.

This is a very long Incantation so I'd hope this is about as powerful as they come in terms f power for any kind of spells. You're locked forever with this one.

It should be ultra powerful. It needs to be because either wise it'd absolutely useless. And this is coming from an absolutely amazing boss. Probably the best boss in the entire game.

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imagine if both heads shot beams, that would make this spell so cool!

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Why are there so many OP things in this game. What was from thinking?

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midir would be so proud of me rn

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Whats more amazing is the needing of 600 STAMINA TO USE!!!

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I'm tempted to get 36 faith just so I can use this incantation, it is pretty much instantaneous if used in the air and has a huge AOE for more than 500 damage with minimum stat requirements. It basically makes any pvp fight at least 25% easier since most opponents wont have more than 2000HP and it can't really be dodged.

The lasers that come after the initial burst of lightning are way too slow, imprecise, and interruptible however, really couldn't care less about the second half of this incantation. Against hordes of enemies I'm like "please hit me so I can clumsily get out of this long animation".

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Looking forward to getting this for my Leyndell Knight build now that I know it’s a Dragon Cult incantation and not Dragon Communion (even if it’s not that good)

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Good incantation. Can be aimed, just takes practice. The initial lightning burst is extremely good for pvp duels because it high damage and potential to finish a target even when they have a decent amount of HP

Looks super cool too, it does have it drawbacks though.

High Fp cost is a big one, and it's easily punished. It also takes up 3 spell slots, which can be a deal breaker for some people.

It's the strongest finisher in pvp, can be used in PvE to clear crowds or do some insane damage to a boss granted you aim it and don't get knocked out of the animation. If you have the faith requirements it's always nice to have it on you.

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This spell can be cast while jumping, and it works a lot better if cast from as high up as possible. Also keep in mind there's an initial explosion and short range breath followed by the sweeping beams, and enemies can be hit multiple times.

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I'd never use this in PVP but when I see it I do start losing my cool ALOT

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Unlocked this spell last night and gave it a cursory test just to see what it was like. Ran into a late-game catacomb with a friend, super hyped to use it against a big pack. Started 'er up, and two seconds in got knocked flat on my ass by a common rat.

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This speel is good when you use summon and the boss is distracted but it doesn't deserve 3 slots

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"look out now, Im gonna wildly shoot mah lazors in every direction except any where near you".
It's garbage in pve and pvp

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It's a great incantation... but if you have the time and opportunity to get it off without getting whacked out of it then you probably could have just used something less flashy to get the job done.

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Is that right, Stamina Cost: 600??

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This needs some kind of update to make it more usable, highly dissapointing

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Worst offensive incantation in the game? No control, almost never hits more than once, 3 slots, needs a late game boss defeated, super high fp cost, does not scale with a seal (according to my tests) and makes you very very very vulnerable. Just plain bad.

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Pros:

- Dragon laser
- Psychological damage / shock & awe in PVP
- Sideways laser sweeps have wide cone effect in front of player, the forward sweep has decently long range
- Can steer it while doing the side laser sweeps
- Start of the incantation is an instant point-blank knockdown blast for enemies susceptible to it
- Fantastic for PVE crowd control
- Visions of God(zilla)

Cons:

- High FP cost
- High stat requirement for anyone not already invested in Faith
- Looooooong animation lock
- No hyper armour
- Gauging forwards-facing range during side sweeps is awkward
- High memory slot usage
- Underperforms against single targets, compared to other late game incantations and sorceries, and/or which also have high stat requirements

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Endgame incantations in a nutshell: WOW! That looks really cool! Sure is a shame It takes 3 hours to cast, staggers easily, hits everything except your enemy, costs 16 whole fp bars to cast, and does half the damage of an equivalent sorcery!

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Question:

Does Placidusax's Ruin benefit from either the passive effect of the Dragon Communion Seal, the passive effect of the Gravel Stone Seal, or both?

Setup:

* 45 Faith
* 45 Arcane
* Dragon Communion Seal +10 (right hand)
* Dragon Communion Seal +9 (left hand)
* Gravel Stone Seal (left hand)
* 336 Incant Scaling
* No armour, talismans or items

Methodology:

Placidusax's ruin deals both lightning (AoE) and fire (beam) damage. I equipped the Dragon Communion Seal +10 (336 Incant Scaling) in my right hand and cast Placidusax's Ruin on the Spirit Jellyfish near the Foot of the Four Belfries site of grace. I faced away from the jellyfish so that only the lightning AoE would hit them. I then cast the spell from a distance, ensuring only the final upwards beam stroke would hit them. I recorded the damage of these attacks and repeated multiple times for each. This was my control test. I then repeated this methodology twice more, once with a Dragon Communion Seal +9 in my left hand and once with an un-upgraded Gravel Stone Seal in my left hand. All tests were performed during the day and with bright, clear skies (WEATHER AFFECTS INCANTATION DAMAGE).

Hypothesis:

If Placidusax's Ruin counts as a dragon communion incantation, we would expect it to do 10-15% more damage during the second test. If Placidusax's Ruin counts as a dragon cult incantation, we would expect it to do 10-15% more damage during the third test.

Results:

Control Test (no offhand seal):
* Lighting: 858
* Fire: 1034

Test 1 (Dragon Communion Seal +9 offhand):
* Lightning: 858
* Fire: 1034

Test 2 (Gravel Stone Seal):
* Lightning: 858
* Fire: 1034

Conclusion:

The results indicate that Placidusax's Ruin does not benefit from having either the Dragon Communion Seal or the Gravel Stone Seal in the left hand while casting with a Dragon Communion Seal in the right hand. We can probably extrapolate that Placidusax's Ruin does not benefit from either of these seals under any condition, although further testing would be required to confirm this.

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