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i can not get dragon communion seal

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so disappointed that DLC just give us three off hand seal (use main hand like golden order to cast)that's only good for their special bonus. Should have given us a better pure fai seal that has like 390scaling when max fai(put requirements to 60+fai), should have given us a dedicated dex/fai seal, should have given us seal that boost rot incant,should have given us non staff/seal weapon to cast incantation, faith doesn't even have a head equipment to boost more than 2points, let along 4-5 unlike all others, sigh

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Does the godslayer seal outperform clawmark seal if your stats are 48str/60faith?

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maybe the real dex seal was the consumables we made along the way

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at faith 85 even the +10% boosting seals (tested only with clawmark seals and stone of guranqq) still do more dmg than the erdtree seal with their boosted incantations (tested with +25 and +10 respectively)

to me it seems it makes the most sense to pick 1 or 2 sub types and level those seals rather than going all arounder with the erdtree seal.
on my first and thus far only faith playthrough i used the godslayer seal as soon as i got my hands on it and mained black flame. when i got the lightning spear i switched to the gravelstone seal and maaaan do i love the lightning spear

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I wish I could imbue my sword with frenzied flame

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Are Dragon Communion and Frenzied Flame the only Seals with a distinctly different look?

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If Madness Scales off Arcane, does the Buildup get higher when you cast Frenzy-Incants with the Dragoncomunion Seal?

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Hey web designers?

Bots can pass the captcha check

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Cute! ^w^

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I have just done a pure faith caster build using 5 seals and I absolutely loved it, main casing was done with golden order and dragon communion seal, and I used dry leaf fire knight and gravel stone for the buffs would highly recommend pure faith caster. Golden order a d dry leaf making radigon rings super op

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Where is my rot seal Miyazaki rot incants got more damage spells than both messmer and spiral

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Why TF do we need 2 fn seals to boost ring of light incants??? How about a blood seal or something that boosts stuff that doesn't ALREADY GET A BOOST FROM A DIFFERENT SEAL???

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Nobody talks about Miyazaki’s faith with a little strength seal fetish.

Seriously, it’s getting out of hand. They must have snuck the clawmark seal past him while the rest got an exception.

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Wtf happened to the seal scaling (80) faith etc. why tf is it removed from the wiki.

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Shame there isn't a blood seal

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I prefer manatees to seals, personally.

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I wish this would show the inc scaling like the staff section does with sorceries

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wow

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if from really wants to go all in on the "lightning = dex" mentality just make the gravel seal scale with dex.

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Still no dex scaling seal... wtf fromsoft

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Can anyone recommend a catalyst calculator that incorporates the DLC changes? The only ones I can find have neither the rebalancing nor the new seals/staves.

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why does it say the Dryleaf seal is 172 incant at 80 faith? I literally have 247 at only 45 faith.

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That scaling buff some catalyst received seemed to have just lowered the softcaps on dual scaling? claw softcaps at 43/43 now and dragon communion at 43arc but its faith is unchanged.

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I wish they had added a seal that can cast sorceries in the DLC. Now I'll never be able to properly cosplay as a night maiden without having a big staff on my offhand qwp

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gravel stone should've been the dex seal considering every other offensive stat has a seal

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So how much of a difference does it really make to use +10 dragon seal or golden order seal instead of just using Staff of the great beyond for all my stuff.

Basically going 70/70 int/fai

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I updated the seals incantation scaling for Clawmark and Dragon Communion because some fool put 60 as their incant scaling. The number only obtainable if you DON'T HAVE THE REQUIRED STATS TO USE THEM. I have updated them to their absolute minimum obtainable stats' incantation scaling. 106 being the lowest you can possibly have on the DCS and 104 is the lowest on the clawmark seal.

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So, no seal that can use sorceries and incants? DAMMIT!!!

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And here I really really thought that Ansbach would have a blood seal in his questline. Guess I'm the clown.

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I'm playing my first faith-using build and I'm not certain whether buffs such as Flame, grant me strength or Golden wow are affected in any way by the seal you're using?
For example will the buff be weaker when cast by +0 finger seal compared to some late game strong seal?

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Messmers fire got a seal but only has 3 incantations...

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Still no dex scaling seal.. sigh

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There isnt a scarlet rot incantation buffing seal :/ My butterfly build is ruined! QQ

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Here's hoping for a dex/faith scaling seal in the DLC

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could someone trade me the gravel stone seal i missed it and i dont want to start a ng+

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There's an error in the dragon communion incantation list, Smarag's breath is on the same line as Borealis's mist

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The dragon communion seal is the best when you are not maxing faith and or int but the golden order seal has the highest scaling at it's max and when there you can also get a lot of use from the prince of death staff that does basically the same thing but for sorceries

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Hi guys, if i 've a seal in left hand does it boosts spells and scale with faith as in right hand?Thanks

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what's the best seal for weapon buffs assuming minimal faith?

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BLOOD SEAL PLZ

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Might be a silly question, but is there a limit to off hand buffs provided by the seals?

Much like how I am using the Erdtree Seal as my main and the godslayer on my offhand for the boost (+10%), if I had also equipped the giant's seal and gravestone seal off-hand, would I also receive their respective 15 and 20% for their own spells?

Thanks

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what does upgrtading seals do?

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I hope the DLC introduces a Seal that lets us cast Sorceries.

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I hope the DLC gives us a Seal that can cast sorceries.

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I miss the sound of the chime from mark soups

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How about a blood seal that scales on hp and faith and uses hp for increased blood magic damage I just like weapons that eat health they tend to be really strong

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Erdtree Seal should buff elden star and wraith of gold by 10%

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Hoping for a Crucible or Miquella seal in the DLC, should be pretty hype regardless tho

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Wish we could infuse these with atleast kick. Whenever I see "no skill" feels like the game is mocking me for using spells

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GOS have highest incantation scaling, so its why is GOS my fav seal.

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i wish we had weapons that double as faith catalists like in dark souls 3, hopefully in the dlc

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I wish you could put ashes of war on seals (besides parries said by anon dec-5-2023 I think endurance would also be nice to have)

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I want ashes of war on seals especially parries bc I love just having the option and don't want to have to carry a rickety shield just to stand in front of a guy and try to parry an attack 5 times in a row to fail each time and die.

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Here's hoping for a big heavy seal that doubles as a fist weapon

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What is the purple stat inc stand for next to critical? I assume incantation but there’s already an incantation scaling stat? Can you elaborate on it and it’s function because I noticed most seals have a inc of 60 but then some of in the hundreds? Thank you!

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i hope they add more seals that specialize in a certain incantation class, i would really love to see a formless mother seal.

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Is it possible to use seals even when there's a red X becsuse requirements are not met?
I mainly ask because of support incantations, no offensive.
Heal etc

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Alright, I know this is just being picky now but I kind of want a seal that scales mainly in Faith with a secondary lower scaling in Arcane. I know that the dragon communion seal already exists but I just want a seal where I can use the more Faith demanding spells like Black Blade and have better scaling while also being able to benefit from any arcane stats I have to use dragon or blood incantations for status build-up, It can be Mohg themed. At the end of the day, I know it's just me being picky and it probably won't happen but I just wanted to throw it out there.

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I wish you could put ash of wars on seals, I think being able to parry with a seal would be sick.

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I keep hearing people in vids talk about holding a seal while using certain weapons, what's that all about? I came here seeing if it actually buffs anything and was left empty handed.

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I wished they added a seal which can cast both sorceries and incantations like in dark souls. I can see why they likely couldn't but it would've been cool as hell

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Seals need an ash of war. It doesn't have to be good, I just want the option.

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pretty insane that demon's souls, ds2 and 3 had at least 1 staff/chime that was able to do more than just one type of magic class while er has nothing like that, especially since law of regression is an int miracle that's required for one of the best endings subjectively speaking

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All sacred seals scale primarily with faith, which makes sense, but there are additionally seals that scale secondarily with strength, intelligence, and arcane... but none that scale with dex? Not even the Gravel Stone Seal, which boosts dragon incantations, which are all lightning based, when lightning damage scales with dex...

I get that Dex is commonly leveled along with faith / int because it reduced casting time, so it might be a little too strong if it had an A or even B scaler like Golden Order or Dragon Communion seals, but it you're playing a lighting oriented build, it just feels bad not being able to infuse your offhand melee weapon with lightning because it does literally half the damage of a a flame art infused weapon if you have 60+ faith.

The Gravel Stone Seal should have like a C scaling with Dex instead of a D in Strength, so you still get a boost from dex but not as much as you get with other seals that have split or bonus scaling aside from faith

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How come seals don't have the glow in hand when equipped that matches their theme? (godslayer seal glow black, dragon glow red etc.) They all have the golden glow when wielded.

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I have the dragon communion seal. At what point should I switch from dragon communion seal to godslayer seal? Or to erdtree?

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Personally, I think you should be able to use at least some ashes of war on seals, and here are ones that I think should/could work for certain reasons such as; Ashes that don't require/use the weapon you’re holding (kick, endure, the butt slams, earthshaker, quickstep/bhs, beast roar, storm stomp, lightning ram, hoarfrost stomp, white shadows lure) Ashes that make weapons/use fists (spectral lance, life steal fist, flame of the redmanes) some shield ashes (parries that produce a special effect (thops, golden, etc), vow of the indomitable, holy ground) and those with an incantation/sorcery counterpart (the Carian swords, glintblade phalanx, thunderbolt, golden vow), and even some that most likely wouldn't really work (Royal knights resolve, determination, raptors of the mist), and some of these ashes could fall into multiple categories. Now just to be clear I'm not saying all of these would properly/should work and even doubt ones like those with incantation/sorcery counterparts (you basically get an extra spell slot for free) and some that deal damage but for the bare minimum at least those that have nothing to do with weapons/damage (quickstep, vow of the indomitable, endure, holy ground, etc). Now idk what else to type yall get the idea, also many of these could also apply to staffs.

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Why is there no real Dex/Faith hybrid seal(Flame Frenzy scaling is crap) for lightning damage?? Huge oversight by Fromsoft.

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Dragon communion seal is the best scaling seal at low investment. At mid and higher investment its very close with golden order seal. For weapon buffs and instant heal the best is godslayer seal and later erdtree seal

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With all the odd decisions Fromsoftware made in designing many of the weapons with them just throwing random stats at things I am really glad the way they made the seals. Things like Dragon Communion Seal scaling off arcane and Clawmark scaling off strength are two examples. Enabling players to dip their toes into incantations as a supportive tool without needing to invest heavily into another stat. They only need enough faith to equip the spells. Sure they won't be as powerful as they would be in a pure faith build but having it at all can be better than nothing.

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faith > 70: erdtree seal
faith < 70: godslayer seal
scaling is funny

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uhhh... i don't think that "mohgwyn's sacred spear" and the "sacred relic sword" count as sacred seals, even if they do have "sacred" in the name

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in short erdtree seal is the best for pure faiths you welcome

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Do seals provide poise???

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How is a seal that scales with FOUR FREAKING ATTRIBUTES WORSE than the ones that acale with two!!?? HOW!?

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I use a +10 golden order seal with 71 int and 70 faith and I get 376 incant scaling

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8n what order do I go through on these seals? Do I move from finger to Eritrea first or is there a different order of when they are encountered?

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Just did some calculations about the godslayer and erdtree seal. since the erdtree is weightless it saves you about 2 levels of endurance for medium equip load and about 4 levels for light load.

looking only at faith, the godslayer's seal has the highest spellbuff up until 68 faith, after 69 (nice) the erdtree seal takes over.

HOWEVER since the erdtree seal allows you to cheap out on a few levels of endurance, starting at 60 faith you can start thinking about using the erdtree seal instead of the godslayer.

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A question about leveling up the seals with smithing stones:
Does it affect the scaling of buffs like "golden vow" or "flame grant me strength"? (Which I currently use in a build)

Golden vow gives 15% additional damage and Fgms gives 20%.
Is this affected in any way bei either the level of the seal or the the Faith stats?

Or is the scaling of the seal only affect damage dealing Spells / incantations?

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erdtree seal is missing the fact that it buffs the Erdtree school of incants, those being erdtree heal, blessing of the erdtree, protection of the erdtree, black flame, blessings boon, barrier of gold, wrath of gold, golden lightning fortification, golden vow, and the three aspects of the crucible incantations

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I'm struggling to understand the incantation scaling column. For the seals that scale with multiple stats are they shows with only one of those stats leveled to 80 or is it measured off of having them all at 80? I'm assuming it's just the one stat but some of the scaling is a bit misleading if that's the case.

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Does anyone else miss those catalyst-weapon hybrids that were in Dark Souls 3? Here’s hoping that concepts like those are brought back in DLC

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Why is there no Seal that scales with INT and not FAI (similar to Staff of the Guilty)? Doesn't have to be good scaling, but give us something!

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Thanks!

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Clawmark Seal is the absolute best hands down. Since Strength and Faith synergize pretty well like Intelligence and Dexterity do, so the probability is high you have some strength stat too. I tested lightning spear, catch flame, and wrath of gold with each seal on the Omens in the first sewer grace at +14 (+6 somber respectively) and every time the clawmark was best even without twohanding and it wasn't really close. Faith was 58. It's ridiculous. I wish the other talismans were better given their look and descriptions but they honestly aren't. Godslayer and then the first basic seal were the next closest. Let's face it, you aren't going to have max level weapons or even close to a capped stat for the far majority of the game and you get this seal very early. Seems unbalanced.

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Hot take here but:

I understand it's a smart thing but you shouldn't have to use a different seal/staff in the casting hand from the one focused on an incantation class just to get more damage, the scaling is higher yes but the passive buff to certain spells should just be sky high in comparison for thematic build's sake.

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I have a +25 godslayer's sacred seal and +10 golden order sacred seal. The GSS shows incant scaling of 323, or close to that and the GOS shows 339. So does the higher incant scaling on the golden order seal trump the damage bonus of the godslayer's seal when casting the blackflame incantations taking into account it has lower incant scaling.?
I see the same thing with the giants, and gravel stone seals both have lower scaling but a damage bonus to their respective incantation class.

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I have a +25 godslayer's seal and +10 golden order seal. GOS is showing 338 or 339 incant scaling and I think the GSS shows 320. So does 339 on golden order seal out class the 320 godslayer's seal for casting blackflame incantations taking the boost it gives them into account?

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The table currently lacks "Incant Scaling" data on the Maxed page. Should at least include the base so we can compare.

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They need a dex and faith scaling seal. They have everything but that.

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Make the gravel-stone seal have dex scaling.

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I am going for the giant seal because it boosts fire

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It seems like the Dragon Communion Seal is not Capped at 387 Scaling, I got a +10 Dragon Communion Seal +10 and have 407 Incant Scaling (99 Arc, 80 Faith)

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So this is what i gather from looking at all the seals:
Finger seal: goofy ahh basic seal
Godslayer seal: upgrade to finger seal, go to mid game seal for fth
Dragon comunnion seal: best for arcane
Erdtree seal: best for pure fth end game
Clawmark: good for str/fth hybrid
Frenzied flame: very situational, only dex scaling seal. Good for those who put points everywhere.

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I kinda wish there was a blood-Incantation bosting seal. I just kinda think that damage type is left out.

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Once again fromsoft proves they have no idea how to design a game

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Sorry my spacing sucked below-For the hybrid folks: Strength 60 Dexterity 50 Intelligence 10 Faith 62 --> Frenzied Flame Seal +10 Incantation Scaling = 298 --> Clawmark Seal +25 Incantation Scaling = 297

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For the hybrid folks:

Strength 60 Dexterity 50 Intelligence 10 Faith 62

Frenzied Flame Seal +10 Incantation Scaling = 298
Clawmark Seal +25 Incantation Scaling = 297

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So for a STR/FTH build, should I use the clawmark seal?

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