Sorcerer Rogier

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Location

Stormveil Castle

Roundtable Hold

Role Merchant, Quest NPC, and Summon
Voiced by Ben Norris

Sorcerer Rogier is an NPC in Elden Ring. Rogier uses a hat that covers his face and talks in a very polite way. He acts a merchant, selling Ashes of War relating to the Magic Affinity, as well as being a Quest NPC himself. Interacting with him may also make him available as an NPC Summon.

 

The pleasure's mine. Rogier's the name. A sorcerer, as you might have guessed.

 

Sorcerer Rogier Information in Elden Ring

Rogier can initially be found in Stormveil Castle by the altar of the Chapel in the northwest section. [Map Link]

Rogier presents himself and seems pretty friendly. He tells you that he is a Sorcerer and he is looking for something in the castle. He's also available as a NPC cooperator against Margit, the Fell Omen without needing to meet him first.

Rogier also acts as a Merchant, selling Ashes of War.

 

Elden Ring Sorcerer Rogier Spells

 

Sorcerer Rogier Questline: How to complete Sorcerer Rogier's Quest

Spoiler-free hints are provided in Bold text, sometimes additional hints are provided. Don't read past the bold paragraphs if you wish to discover things for yourself.

  1. Find Rogier within Stormveil Castle, before defeating Godrick
    1. Rogier can first be found in Stormveil Castle by the altar of the Chapel in the northwest section [Map Link]
  2. Find Rogier after defeating Godrick, and before Liurnia North-West Questlines
    1. Rogier, being a Tarnished, might seek a peaceful place to reflect on his search through Stormveil.
    2. After defeating Godrick he will move to Roundtable Hold, on the balcony that overlooks the entrance hall. He gives you a Rogier's Rapier +8 that comes with Ash of War: Glintblade Phalanx. (Note: You will be unable to progress Rogier's questline if you speak to Ranni at the Three Sisters in the northwest of Liurnia before finishing this questline.)
  3. Rogier found what he was looking for in Stormveil - you should seek it as well.
    1. What you seek is found near a large monster, after some small and not-so-small vermin. Look around the monster's bewildering arena for something to interact with, and perhaps you will see how Rogier was injured as well.
    2. If you already unlocked the door next to Liftside Chamber, start through that door. Otherwise, start your search in the Jars' courtyard which is across from the Secluded Cell site of grace. You will need to do some jumping to find the secret path. Rogier left a hint message for you, near a beautiful view.
    3. From the Secluded Cell, head straight into the courtyard where Jars are. Jump onto the Eastern ledge from the wooden platform, follow it around to a window, and then a doorway on the right after the window. You will now be above the Jars, continue through the next room and you will find Roger's encouraging message. Jump down a few ledges and through a door to come into another courtyard. Head directly forward and open the door for a shortcut from the Liftside Chamber site of grace.
    4. You will now head underneath Stormveil Castle. Starting from the Liftside Grace, exit out the door to the courtyard, turn right, double back, approach the ledge that has a corpse sitting and looking down. Jump down to the buttresses below and again to the wooden scaffolding and onto the ground. Defeat the Lesser Ulcerated Tree Spirit and continue on to find what looks to be an ancient, rotting face. Just in front of the face is a bloodstain. Activate it to view a memory.
    5. If the player doesn't see the bloodstain, they must talk to Rogier first in his location in Stormveil, or defeat Godrick.
  4. Rogier should have something to say about what you found.
    1. Return to the Roundtable and ask Rogier about the face. He will explain: "That is a sacred relic. Of the black knives plot."
  5. Perhaps other Tarnished in the hold are also aware of the death-bringing black knives plot?
    1. Talk to Fia and allow her to hold the Tarnished. Exhaust the dialogue options along the lines of "Talk in secret", "Did you know?" and "About the Black Knifeprint" to get Knifeprint Clue that reveals the location of a Black Knife Catacombs [Map link] where a Black Knifeprint can be found. This step can be skipped by getting the Knifeprint without the map.
  6. You will need to find a relic, and return to Rogier to show it to him.
    1. The relic is well-hidden in the place that Fia directed you to, you won't gain it by defeating the "main" boss of the dungeon. Try looking carefully before you get your feet wet in the dungeon...
    2. The Black Knifeprint is hidden behind an illusory wall in the room before dropping down to a flooded pit with levers. Defeat the Black Knife Assassin to obtain it. Return the Black Knifeprint to Rogier. On reloading the area he will send you looking for Ranni, who can be found at the Three Sisters in the North West of Liurnia. 
  7. Head to Liurnia to ask for more information from Ranni.
    1. Upon talking to Ranni she effectively tells the player to leave. Notifying Rogier of this development results in Rogier recommending the player become one of Ranni's Vassals to get more information from her. Rogier sends the player back to talk to Ranni again.
  8. You should now be working for Ranni - be sure to check in occasionally with Rogier.
    1. Ranni will now allow the player to become one of her vassals and begin her questline. Returning to Rogier results in him warning the player that he is worried he will fall into a deep slumber - he is on the brink. Resting at the site of grace will in fact show that now he has fallen into the slumber he spoke of.
    2. Later on, after resting a couple of times, and/or progressing through the story, he will die, leaving behind his Bell Bearingset, his rapier if you didn't get it before, and a letter revealing the existence of D's younger brother and his whereabouts. His body and chair will mysteriously disappear on a subsequent visit.

      Notes: after 8.1, teleporting instantly back to the Hold or even back from elsewhere seems to result in having Rogier still unconscious, but it appears a quick way to have Rogier's death and lootable items is to activate a new Site of Grace; tested in a few different runs and with different Sites of Grace

 

Rogier's Dialogue in Elden Ring: Sorcerer Rogier

Introduction

  • Ah, nice to meet you.
    The pleasure's mine. Rogier's the name. A sorcerer, as you might have guessed.
    I'm looking for a little something, here in the castle. When I'm not hotfooting it from the troops, that is.
    But enough about me, what are you doing here in Stormveil Castle?
    This place is bristling with Tarnished hunters, you know. They sacrifice our kind, for grafting. Not exactly a place I'd stroll into without a purpose in mind...

I'm here to defeat Godrick

  • You can see it then, I take it? The guidance of grace. Well, enjoy it while you can.
    I'm Tarnished, like you. But unlike you, I've seen neither hide nor hair of this guidance for the longest time. Still, I won't forget how it felt when I first came here, to the Lands Between.
    I'm privy to a few magical battle arts. Would you care to learn one? As a fellow Tarnished, once guided by grace, I'd love to help you out, if it please.

At Roundtable Hold

  • Ah, we meet again after all.
    I apologize for any offence given by my bearing, but I'm quite unable to move, you see. So. What do you need?

I've defeated Godrick

  • Ah, you defeated Godrick and claimed yourself a Great Rune. Mm, looks like we both got what we wanted out of Stormveil, didn't we.
    Well done, friend. Something to mark the occasion. Go on, take it.
    [Gives you Rogier's Rapier]
    As you might've guessed, I still can't move. My fighting days are behind me. No need to be polite, I've no use for it anymore.

About the corpse under Stormveil

  • The misshapen corpse under Stormveil? That is a sacred relic. Of the black knives plot. As that famed night of assassination is known.
    It happened during the Golden Age of the Erdtree, long before the shattering of the Elden Ring. Someone stole a fragment of the Rune of Death from Maliketh, the Black Blade. And on a bitter night, murdered Godwyn the Golden.
    That was the first recorded Death of a demigod in all history. And it became the catalyst. Soon, the Elden Ring was smashed, and thus sprang forth the war known as the Shattering.
    I once wished to become a scholar, you see. I've spent many an hour scouring the archives for knowledge of that fateful plot.
    The world has grown crooked, and if you intend to put it to rights, you'd better understand what happened to make it this way, mm?
    And...that thing is to blame for the shape I'm in now... I urge the utmost caution. Don't disturb the corpse more than necessary...

Giving him the Black Knifeprint

  • This...is a black knifeprint! I can scarcely believe you managed to get your hands on this!
    You recall our conversation about the Night of the Black Knives, yes? They say the assassins who carried out the deed were scions of the Eternal City. A group entirely of women, arrayed in armour of silver under cloaks which fooled the eye.
    The knives they wielded though, were imparted with the power of the Rune of Death through sinister rite.
    Please, I beg of you, lend me the knifeprint for a time. I'd love nothing more than to tease out its secrets.
    Though only a fragment, a very specific ritual had to be performed to impart the power of the Rune of Death. Traces of the one who performed the rite are sure to remain in the imprint...
    Half my body has been suffused with Death. I'm certain it will help me see.

Later

  • Ahh, hello. I was hoping to see you.
    My examination is complete. Here's the knifeprint back, with my thanks.
    [Gives you Black Knifeprint]
    Now, I have a fairly good idea who performed the rite upon the blade. The person who orchestrated the Night of the Black Knives.
    Lunar Princess Ranni. One of the children born to King Consort Radagon and his first wife, Rennala. Demigod and sister to General Radahn and Praetor Rykard. Her's was the name I discovered in the imprint.
    Truly, you have my thanks. But, if I might be so bold, I would also like to ask something more of you.
    If Ranni truly is the one who plotted that fateful night, then she should bear the cursemark of Destined Death somewhere upon her flesh. I would like you to procure it for me. And then all will be laid bare. I will have the answers I have sought for so long.

Why do you want a cursemark?

  • I'm afraid there's something I must tell you.
    Do you know of Those Who Live in Death?
    The very notion of life in death defies the Golden Order.
    By D's account, these defiled fiends must be expunged.
    But truth be told, I seek the cursemark to save them.
    You may find this peculiar,
    but I discovered something in my examination of the Night of the Black Knives.
    These souls have committed no offence. They have every right to life, only, they happened to touch upon a flaw in the Order.

Ranni cast off her cursemark

  • I see... When Ranni shed her flesh, she shed the cursemark, too.
    You know, not everyone would trust such a tale...
    But, if she in her current form is nothing more than the living doll you profess...
    Then perhaps it's true after all.
    Hmm. Forgive the bluntness of the notion, but...
    How would you like to become one of Ranni's vassals?
    Ah, only in order to get what we want, of course.
    The location of the body which bore the cursemark, which right now I haven't the faintest.
    And the best way to find out is for you to enter her service and take a poke around on the sly.
    I know you've got what it takes.
    Not only are you a superb fighter, but people want to trust you. I've seen it.

Rogier's proposition

  • Can you become Ranni's vassal to advance our agenda?
    While in her service, you'll be able to take a poke around on the sly.
    And determine the location of her original body that bears the cursemark.
    I realise that I'm asking you to put yourself in grave danger.
    But I know you've got what it takes. Quite possibly the only one, in fact.

Talk (after entering Ranni's services)

  • Hmm. Maybe I should tell you.
    Lately, I feel I'm on the precipice...
    Of falling into a deep...fathomless slumber.
    And I have an inkling it could spell trouble for you, somehow.
    So I just wanted to get the apology out of the way, beforehand.
    Since you're so scary and all.

About D

  • Ah, so you've met D.
    D is an old friend.
    We found ourselves journeying together for a time, bound by our exploration of Death.
    But our paths since diverged. Never again to cross.
    Though that's hardly an uncommon fate for two friends.
  • D was telling me. That he discovered the mark of the centipede. The centipede is an ancient symbol of the cursemark. As long as whoever finds and uses it is not nefarious by nature, then we may be able to form an alliance. If only I could speak to them in person. And if they were like you, all the better.
  • Yes, indeed.
    If D knew what drives me now, he would surely boil over with rage.
    Or perhaps, he would even feel some pity.
    But no need to fret, none of that will come to pass.
    I can tell a good lie when I need to.

Small Talk

  • Always good to see you safe. So. What do you need?

Other

  • They were conceived at the great Academy of Raya Lucaria, to the north of this castle. In the past, they obeyed laws which contravened the Golden Order, or so I'm told.
    Fascinating, isn't it? That the Golden Order was pliable enough to absorb practices that contradicted itself in the past. With the Order broken, twisted, and in need of repair, such adaptability is more important now than ever.

 

Elden Ring Notes & Trivia for Rogier

  • Can be summoned as a cooperator for the Margit, The Fell Omen boss fight. This summon sign is available long before you first find Rogier.
  • Rogier will move to the Roundtable Hold regardless of whether you meet him or not prior to defeating Godrick.
  • If you speak with D upon Rogier's arrival, D will inform you that Rogier has taken up on the Balcony near him, and remark on his condition.
  • Speaking with Ranni and enlisting in her service before he requests it causes him to fall asleep and then die a while later (this happens regardless of whether you do his questline or not. The only difference is gaining extra information about Ranni and the Night of the Black Knives).
    • Rogier will only die if you teleport in from a different site of grace, as teleporting from the same grace will simply have him in a constant state of sleep. As long as the Site of Grace you are teleporting from is not the Roundtable's Grace, he will die as expected.
    • Rogier dying will not prevent the Ranni questline from continuing.
    • Upon his death, he will leave behind his full armor set, his bell bearing, as well as a letter. Presumably, he would also drop his sword here if by chance he dies before Godrick is defeated.
    • Interestingly enough, he will fall in deep slumber at the same time as Ranni. She mentions it after speaking with War Counselor Iji, Blaidd and Seluvis in her tower and then returning to her.
  • Gives Rogier's Rapier+8 after defeating Godrick the Grafted.
  • The player can skip having to defeat the Lesser Ulcerated Tree Spirit and activating Rogier's bloodstain by obtaining the Black Knifeprint from the Black Knife Catacombs in advance. Possessing the item will unlock the dialogue option for the rotting face without ever have seeing it. This also can be done without talking with Fia to obtain the map with the Knifeprint's location.
  • He likely tampered with the face under Stormveil, and got afflicted with Death Blight, which left him crippled and would soon curse him to an eternal slumber.

 

 Sorcerer Rogier Image Gallery

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    • Anonymous

      Yet another obnoxiously designed quest that is easy to break unless you play the game using a wiki. FromSoft try too hard to be different and it's to the detriment of their games

      • Anonymous

        After doing 8.1, 8.2 only happened for me much later, after giving D the Weathered Dagger. Teleported away, returned and dear Rogier was dead, as was D.

        By this point I have done pretty much everything acessible before exploring Altus Plateau and killing Radahn.

        • Anonymous

          This guy's great. In a world where you're either a zealot or a satanist Rogier is one of the few people who appreciates the pros of the golden order but also acknowledges its flaws and tries to right those flaws in his own way, total chad.

          • Anonymous

            I just wanted to help poor Rogier! He was the first friendly NPC I ran across, and much like Solaire, I was immediately drawn to his kind and amiable demeanor in an otherwise somber and dark game. I followed his questline up to obtaining the Cursemark and was devastated to find him asleep. He died not long after that and I felt way less motivated to even finish the game. All my favorite NPCs were just dying off and I couldn’t do a single thing about it. First Rogier, then Blaidd, Milicent, and Alexander. This game is cruel. So much for being Elden Lord of you can’t even help your own people.

            • Anonymous

              I still can’t get over the fact that we fail to save him. It’s just so sad! My favorite NPC in this game. :(

              • Anonymous

                As of 1.09, you need very little interaction with Rogier to get all his items. I talked to him in Stormveil, killed Godrick, became Ranni's vassal, exhausted Rogier's dialogue in the Roundtable Hold to get the sword, then reloaded and was able to pick up his bell-bearing, armor set, and letter.

                • Anonymous

                  Step 3, sub 4: add note; it is not required to defeat the tree spirit. If the player runs past along the edge, the can reach Godwyn's Pustule before it even aggros, the Tarnished can then safely interact with Rogier's bloodstain and collect the Deathroot Pustule.
                  (Even if the boss is aggro'd, the Tarnished doesn't have to watch the entire animation, just having interacted with the bloodstain is enough)

                  • Anonymous

                    I'm in Stormveil right now. Haven't defeated Godrick yet. Rogier was here last night. Loaded the game back up today and he's gone. I have no idea what happened.

                    • Anonymous

                      Maybe I'm missing something but Rogier's questline seems incomplete. I get the feeling there was supposed to be more involvement with him in Ranni's questline but they decided against it mid-development. Maybe he was going to be cured and end up opposing Ranni for the Golden Order? There's seems to be so little consequence for finding out Ranni is the entire reason the Elden Ring got shattered and the Tarnished summoned in the first place.

                      • Anonymous

                        Not sure how I messed up because Rogier died before I could give him the black knife print, so I think I did things in the wrong order. Is there any way to fix this or nah? I mean his armor is pretty cool though

                        • Anonymous

                          After I exhausted his dialogue and did some stuff in stormveil he disappeared before I killed Godrick, I bought all his things too but he just left? I haven't gotten to the round table yet so he may have just left early. This hasn't happened to me before.

                          • Anonymous

                            I wish this game gave you more opportunities to put bros before hoes. Ranni and Fia can eat it, Golden Order for life m8.

                            • Some other comments made me think more about the nature of Rogier's motivation. I had not considered the idea much. His bloodstain seems at first like a simple mortal wound, but as you listen to him more, and you notice the mark under his clothing, you learn there is more to it. Which supports, other than being a scholar in pursuit of knowledge, his desire to learn about cursemarks, or specifically Ranni's Cursemark of Death.
                              The game's themes play so heavily with fate, and Rogier gets you introduced to the concept of undeath in Elden Ring. It was clear Rogier believed that by learning from Ranni he could save himself, but deathblight ends him, he can't be saved.

                              • Anonymous

                                With Rogier's dialogue in mind, the Black Knife assassins must've been somehow part of the Nox who were banished underground by Marika.
                                Scions of the Eternal City, clad in armor made of silver. This must mean the assassins are under the orders of Ranni, since their goals align with finding a Lord of Night.

                                Were the Nox banished Numens?

                                • Anonymous

                                  He wears a blanket to cover what seems to be a deahblight affliction. If you look closely you can notice some flies and some black thorns sticking out

                                  • Anonymous

                                    It went right over my head on my first playthrough but going by some of the comments here I'm not alone in that. Despite what a couple of comments and replies say and one or two who are speculating if it is possible to prevent Rogier dying. But it's not possible to save him it's too late for that. By the time we meet Rogier he is already dead and it isn't debatable or open to interpretation. Rogier wasn't infected with deathblight but miraculously managed to survive it at the last minute. It killed him. Dead. But evidently not permanently.
                                    The red shadow seen after interacting with Rogier's bloodstain is in the last throes of the instant death effect when the deathblight status bar is full and there are no two ways about it, there is no cure possible at that point no last minute reprieve. Also, the fact that he has a bloodstain in the first place shows beyond doubt he died in front of that face in the castle crypt and the Rogier we speak to at the chapel in stormveil castle and back at roundtable hold is one of "those who live in death" and there is evidence and signs both cryptic and obvious pointing to this.
                                    Pay attention to the conversations with Rogier when he is sitting on the balcony he is explicit in telling the player how his opinions and beliefs regarding the golden order and those who live in death have undergone a radical and drastic u-turn saying he now knows the undead are blameless, they are not evil souls. He also mentions becoming estranged from D, hunter of the dead and he wonders what D would think if he knew what Rogier had come to believe on this subject, beliefs that are the polar opposite to those of the golden order and that D wouldn't understand this change in Rogier's world view. There are also conversations with Fia, about "poor Rogier" and later on at deep root depths Rogier is one of Fia's three champions. When we spoke to him in the chapel at stormveil castle he was already dead.

                                    • Anonymous

                                      I missed his bloodstain in front of that freaky face on the lowest level of stormveil castle first time around. But as soon as I saw it there was no mistaking what I was looking at but it doesn't make sense. That bloodstain is showing the instant death animation for deathblight and the effect of that status ailment isn't called instant death for no reason. So how is Rogier back at roundtable hold, maybe not alive and well but alive enough to have a conversation with?

                                      • Anonymous

                                        There is a blood stain in Stormveil Castle at the Root-face where you get the Prince of Death Pustule, that seems to show how Rogier became infected with the deathblight.

                                        • Anonymous

                                          People complaining about not keeping him alive, I am on NG+3 or 4 or something and I can’t get the ****er to die. I am at the elden beast and he’s just sleeping in the round table still. I need his clothes damnit!

                                          • Anonymous

                                            Dammit I’m so depressed. I did NG+ over the weekend and didn’t talk to Ranni at all and didn’t defeat Godrick, thinking I could keep him alive. I progressed all the way up until right before the Fire Giant fight and Rogier was just chilling in Stormveil cathedral. After I burned the Erd Tree he disappeared for a little while and then was in the Roundtable, sitting in his chair by the balcony all Death blighted. (Godrick was still alive, I didn’t view his bloodstain, etc) I defeated Maliketh and then went back to check on Rogier and he was dead. So it should be noted that he dies no matter what once you burn the Erd Tree. Even if you don’t ever talk to Ranni. :(

                                            • Anonymous

                                              Ranni is so not worth losing Rogier! I’m not talking to her or even defeating Godrick in NG+ I want my buddy to stay alive.

                                              • Anonymous

                                                Why is this the only page with a "spoiler warning"? Wiki' s are sources of information, not places to become hysterical.

                                                • Anonymous

                                                  is rogier pronounced “raw-jee-erh” or like roger? i thought the former but every youtuber calls him roger

                                                  • Anonymous

                                                    I have no clue why people say thay you can break his questline. I got to Ranni first before getting quest item from blackknife, Rogier died, got set, letter and the bell, I can still continue Ranni quest as well as Fia. Only thing I missed is a bit of the Rogier's dialogue, that's all (and still have that cool looking quest item from blackknife)

                                                    • Anonymous

                                                      I gotta say, I really love how all of the NPC questlines are interconnected in this game, and it just adds to Elden Ring having the best NPC quests to date. It's really cool Rogier being one of the first NPCs you meet gets you started on Fia's and Ranni's questline, which are then connected to a bunch more NPC questlines, it just makes all these characters more in depth and feel like they don't just exist in a Vacuum, which is my main issue with DS3s quests in particular

                                                      • Anonymous

                                                        Interestingly, he's completely 'intangible' while in the Stormveil area. Not only is his zone combat locked, but although it's possible to lure the knights outside into the room, he doesn't react in the slightest. No damage, no barrier effect, no dialogue.

                                                        Do any other NPCs react like this? All others I've seen either take damage and go aggro, or verbally react and put up a golden barrier or phase through the strike and fade away.

                                                        • Anonymous

                                                          A genuinely kind and helpful NPC who doesn't teleport around obnoxiously, doesn't go utterly mad and betray us or just use us for his own means, has lore ties to other NPCs, and whose questline has a very evident path?

                                                          He's totally gonna die an agonizing death and we get taunted by his armor about his agonizing life and lore and be forced to conclude the quest before you can actually give him what he seeks by a kill condition you can hit far too early- and yep there's the bell bearing :(

                                                          • Anonymous

                                                            For whatever reason, From decided that talking to Ranni before getting the Black Knifeprint should end Rogier's questline completely. I have no idea why they made this decision, considering he asks you to go talk to her anyway, but I'm VERY salty about it...

                                                            • Anonymous

                                                              Honestly, i'm kinda sad i missed his questline, dude was legit one of the most charismatic NPCs, then i met him in stormveil...


                                                              Then eventually i found him hunched over and couldn't talk to him again.

                                                              • Anonymous

                                                                Had spoken to Rogier a number of times and he seemed like a really cool character. I even had respec'd (for the first time) from FTH to INT and bought a bunch of spells from him and then he said he was sleepy.. I started working for Ranni before even realizing he had an actual quest. Woops. But that's what NG+ is for I guess

                                                                • Anonymous

                                                                  I'm standing at the Margit fog wall and what a surprise, there are no summon signs for Rogier. Why would this be?

                                                                  • For those wishing to cosplay as Rogier, He uses the Astrologer staff and his Rapier with the Glintblade Phalanx ash of war that is on it when you obtain it. His spells consist of Magic Downpour, Scholar's Armament (I'm pretty sure it can't be used with the rapier as obtained from him as it already has the magic affinity when you obtain it.), and Glintstone pebble. I want to do builds cosplaying as various bosses and NPCs and thought I'd share my research.

                                                                    • Anonymous

                                                                      I swear the quest design in this game is the worst I’ve seen this years i love this game but they’re trying to use the same methods in dark souls and bloodborne but it doesn’t work because the world is too big for it they should’ve made more use of map markers or something but you can break or miss half of the npc quest just for exploring literally met him at stormveil and next time I saw him he was just dead and I got all his stuff like wtf was I supposed to do?

                                                                      • Anonymous

                                                                        When He says the black knife assassin's were scions of the eternal city, dafuq does he mean?

                                                                        The black knife assassin's were Numen. How the **** are they Numen, and from the eternal city? Numen lands are outside the lands between like the description on Marika's hammer says. So what the the **** does he mean?

                                                                        • Anyone notices the slight change of tone in his dialogue right before he fell to sleep? It's not much but I feel like he was grasping for consciousness when he's trying to talk to you one last time, as if he knew he's about to die but deliberately toned it down for the player.

                                                                          His armor set suggests he had repressed emotions for his entire life and nobody knew, I imagine he was racing through his life journey in his mind before the player interrupted him and in his last breath, he still tried to act like there's nothing going on and that he would only sleep a bit. That feels so sad.

                                                                          • Anonymous

                                                                            This story is so nonsensical and boring. What im just supposed to stumble upon things In the right order on accident? Things that make no sense and are garbage in the first place? Please, don't confuse nonsense with imagination

                                                                            • Pretty sure picking up the Fingerslayer Blade is the trigger to make him fall to sleep. Was checking up on him regularly and the additional dialogue warning of the impending slumber trigger after I picked it up (haven't given it to Ranni yet).

                                                                              • Anonymous

                                                                                Does anyone know if you can save Rogier? I haven’t talked to and joined Ranni yet, but am close to beating the game and Rogier’s condition seems to be stable.

                                                                                • Anonymous

                                                                                  For those interested, he uses his rapier and an astrologer's staff in combat and seems to cast glintstone cometshard, magic downpour, and scholar's armament.

                                                                                  • Anonymous

                                                                                    Uhh so I talked to him at round table hold and got the leyndell and now he is hunched over and won’t talk

                                                                                    • Anonymous

                                                                                      If only I knew talking to Ranni and then getting the sleepy dialoge, will get to this... I kneeled before him for so long. I hate that I am so curious. If only I would let the NPCs be, they would be alive whenever I become Elden Lord. Now that my best buddy is dead... I don't want to be the Elden Lord anymore...

                                                                                      • Anonymous

                                                                                        Additional dialogue! If you buy an Ash of War from him (not sure if it's a specific one), he says "The battle art you've learned is of the glintstone family. They were conceived at the great Academy of Raya Lucaria, to the north of this castle. In the past, they obeyed laws which contravened the Golden Order, or so I'm told. Fascinating, isn't it? That the Golden Order was pliable enough to absorb practices that contradicted itself in the past. With the Order broken, twisted, and in need of repair, such adaptability is more important now than ever."

                                                                                        • Anonymous

                                                                                          9. is incorrect.

                                                                                          Last position I talked with Blaidd was in Siofra River after Seluvis gave me the introduction letter for Sellen and I talked to her. He was ready for the festival in Redmane Castle. I killed Rennala after that and Rogier was still alive (unconscious, the whole Black Knifeprint-afair done already). Fia then finally gave me the Weathered Dagger to give to D, after a reload she offed D and performed her disappearing-act. Another reload (or rather teleport) later and Rogier was dead too, dropping his loot.

                                                                                          Blaidd's death is still far in the future, as I have to kill Radahn first and so on (haven't even visited Caelid yet).

                                                                                          • Anonymous

                                                                                            Oh, dear Rogier! I really wish his quest had an alternate ending, a way to cure him. I really loved this guy. He was an amiable gentleman. A kind soul. It’s really sad, especially considering the fact that he had compassion for ‘Those Who Live in Death’ and sought a cure for them, and while searching for said cure became affected by Deathblight. The irony is cruel. He then suffers a slow and lonely death, leaving it up to us, the Tarnished, to complete his task and he isn’t able to live long enough to see it through to the end. The item description for his Spellblade set says that “[he] spent his entire life behaving with utter detachment. No one noticed the anger, grief, regret, or fear that existed along with it.” Rogier had a lot of concealed emotions and pain that he was hiding. Definitely wish we could’ve helped him not only be cured of the Deathblight, but also with mental healing and moving on from his past. :(

                                                                                            • Anonymous

                                                                                              "Later on, after killing Blaidd at Ranni's Rise, he will leave behind his Bell Bearing, set, rapier if you didn't get it before, and a letter revealing the existence of D's younger brother and his whereabouts. His body and chair will mysteriously disappear on a subsequent visit."

                                                                                              As someone else has said, this is incorrect, however...

                                                                                              1. I have not defeated Rennala
                                                                                              2. I have not rested at the Plateau

                                                                                              Simply:

                                                                                              1. Talked to fia
                                                                                              2. got dagger
                                                                                              3. Gave it to D
                                                                                              4. 'Slept' at the table of lost grace
                                                                                              5. The new room near the smith was now open, she was there over his body, teleported away
                                                                                              6. 'Slept' at the table of lost grace
                                                                                              7. Rogier is dead and dropped his tiems

                                                                                              No plateau or rennala fought at all.

                                                                                              • Anonymous

                                                                                                Rogier states that he wants to use the cursemark to save "Those Who Live in Death", which seems to be Fia's agenda as well. Given the intimacy we know also exists between Rogier and Fia, is it safe to assume that they are partners working together for the Life in Death faction, and that Rogier's request that the Tarnished procure the cursemark for him is actually on behalf of Fia and her intended use for it per her questline?

                                                                                                • Anonymous

                                                                                                  Num 9 is wrong. Blaidd has nothing to with him, I'm not even up to that point yet. For me it seems defeating Rennala triggered his death.

                                                                                                  • Anonymous

                                                                                                    Is there any real reason to complete Rogier's quest that I'm missing? I don't think having a quest just to get a little extra story is necessarily a bad thing, but as far as I can tell most other quests incorporate some kind of substantial reward(s) for progression/completion or are necessary in order to get the different endings whereas for Rogier you just get his (kinda shitty) Rapier really early on and that's it.

                                                                                                    • Anonymous

                                                                                                      That awkward moment when you have to complete rannis questline in order to buy glintstone pebble, because you ignored him early, and now you have to trigger his death.

                                                                                                      • Anonymous

                                                                                                        One thing that Rogier has me confused: "It happened during the Golden Age of the Erdtree, long before the shattering of the Elden Ring. Someone stole a fragment of the Rune of Death from Maliketh, the Black Blade. And on a bitter night, murdered Godwyn the Golden. "

                                                                                                        So, Godwyn was murdered long before the shattering? I thought the prevailing story was that Marika shattered the Elden Ring in response to Godwyn's death... But Rogier separates these two events by a long duration.

                                                                                                        • Anonymous

                                                                                                          So did Fia kill Rogier and D? When Rogier is sitting at Roundtable hold, you can actually look under the mass where his legs are to see the same thorns and flies wrapped around D's body. You just need to angle the camera to see it.

                                                                                                          • Anonymous

                                                                                                            So has it been clarified whether or not his legs have rotted when in Roundtable Hold because of his "grand slam"?

                                                                                                            • Anonymous

                                                                                                              Worth mentioning under notes is that this is probably the only time a bloodstain shows up that isn't generated from online activity. I think this is a first in the series.

                                                                                                              • "Rogier spent his entire life behaving with utter detachment. No one noticed the anger, grief, regret, or fear that existed along with it." says his armor.

                                                                                                                I believe he had too many unresolved emotions tucked away it made his body crippled, express you problems or it will be the end of you.

                                                                                                                • Anonymous

                                                                                                                  “Don’t disturb the corpse more than necessary”

                                                                                                                  What can Rogier do, that we haven’t tried doing to the corpse yet. There has to be some way to interact with it and wake it up. Just like Rogier did

                                                                                                                  • Anonymous

                                                                                                                    His summon sign shows up outside Margit's fog. I did not speak to him at all during my first playthrough, but still used his help when fighting Margit.

                                                                                                                    • Anonymous

                                                                                                                      i missed him completely and i now see him in roundtable agonizing... well, something to do when i restart i guess

                                                                                                                      • Anonymous

                                                                                                                        What was he looking for in the castle stormveil? Why does the face look like Jabba the Hutt? Do I have to beat the boss again to find this bloodstain?

                                                                                                                        Thanks in advance :)

                                                                                                                        • Anonymous

                                                                                                                          What was he looking for in the castle stormveil? Why does the face look like Jabba the Hutt? Do I have to beat the boss again to find this bloodstain?

                                                                                                                          Thanks in advance :)

                                                                                                                          • Anonymous

                                                                                                                            Is there some way inside stormveil without fighting Margit? Bc idk how else rogier would be summonable at the Margit fight

                                                                                                                            • Anonymous

                                                                                                                              Rogier is a true homie. He helped me beat Margit, told me lore, then gave me his sick hat so I can look like a proper wizard. **** glintstone crowns, all my homies hate wearing giant statue head masks. Real wizards wear pointy hats.

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