Staff of Loss | Elden Ring Wiki

I hate when developers put misinformed information on their own items or hide information such as how one weapon does more poise damage than another weapon. But right now I'm going to rant about this absolutely, with no doubt, foolish decision to put "Boost invsibility sorceries" on this staff when it's barely even true.

Ambush Shard - No damage boost
Unseen Form - No duration boost
Unseen Blade - No duration boost
Eternal Darkness - No duration boost
Night Maiden Mist - No duration boost/damage boost

Night Comet - Boosted
Night Shard - Boosted

5 out of 7 don't even work with Staff of Loss. But despite all of this I think Night Comet is the best spell in the game, but that is no excuse for this misleading description. If Fromsoftware is going to keep being this deceptive about which spell boosts with what Staff/Seal, then how much time are we going to waste searching on the web? Give us a filter where it shows pictures of spells/incantation and text about what each staff 'n seal boosts so we don't have to search it up or actually don't lie in the description in the future, thank you.

Would be appreciated if they would added poise damage values into info so we can see the difference between spells, incantations and weapons.

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the text says "distinguishes itself when casting invisibility sorceries" as in it boosts night spells, how are there so many people misinterpreting it as cannot cast anything other than night spells??

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The hard ass Bell Bearing Hunter at the Isolated Merchant Shack quickly let me know which of my potential mage builds was effective on NG 3+ haha. Night Comet and dual Staff of Loss was the only way I could beat him, so that is what I'm going to go with. :)

Godfrey Icon and various other magic boosting talismans and physick round out the build. Night Comet is a total nuke this way.

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Do the spells from this staff get boosted by Dex and Strength ?

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According to it's description if you don't use this you lack discipline

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I assume I don't need to upgrade it if all I'm using it for is to get 30% bonus and have it in my offhand. If I use 2, then I'd only need to upgrade the main one?

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If you get hit by a spell from this try to move past it, and heal.

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Don't know if anyone else has noticed this but I found the Carian Glintblade Staff and it appears that they are the same staff but the Staff of Loss has the glintstone missing from the tip. It may mean that Caria and Sellia had a close relationship at same point

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Feels like a missed opportunity to have this or carian glintblade staff to be a dex/int hybrid staff. faith builds have a dex scaling seal in the form of the frenzied flame seal so what's stopping them from making this or carian glintblade a dex scaling staff?

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"In Spring, man built a pillar. In Summer another. Throughout Autumn they held. But in Winter one fell"

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This thing really trivializes a lot of otherwise tough encounters, lol. Because invisible sorceries are, well, invisible, bosses like Godskin Duo or Radagon will take every Night Comet to the face without hesitation. Equipping Godfrey's Icon, both Graven talismans, and Magic Scorpion charm (plus an extra Staff of Loss if you have it) sends your DPS through the roof. Charge the first Night Comet, then spam away. Dunno how good it is for PvP, but as a backup tool for mages, it could be interesting to mix in.

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I was more than happy to go to NG+ in order to dual wield these only to find it seems the bonus doesn't stack? Doing more damage with a Carian Scepter and offhanding the Staff of Loss compared to a +25 Staff with another offhand.

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Miyazaki should have included a spell called "Invisibility" and have it not be affected by this staff.

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How are sorceries cast with no glintstone as a conduit?

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Off-handing Staff of Loss to boost Night Comet makes quick work of Malenia. Its a bit safer than using Stars of Ruin.

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"Despite the description, this staff does not block the casting of non-Invisibility spells."

Nothing whatsoever in the description suggests that this staff blocks the casting of non-invisibility spells.

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in case you dont want to go to new game plus to grab another one, you can simply use jellyfish shield.

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Is this loss?

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Wasn't this used to weight 2.0?

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Ambush Shard is already weak compared to other spells. Would be cool if it gained bonus from this staff.

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"See the Sellia page for details on how to get it." The literal page for the item tells you to visit another page to see where to get it. This is why people dunk on Fextralife.

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This appearance-wise seems to have been a Carian Glintblade Staff before the glintstone went missing.

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With 80 INT, this staff has:
179 sorcery scaling at +0
339 sorcery scaling at +25

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With 80 INT, this staff has:
179 sorcery scaling at +0
339 sorcery scaling at +25

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zanzibart... forgive me...

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Wish this staff could cast normal sorceries too, totally would use it just for fashion.

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I genuinely don't understand why this staff doesn’t boost ambush shard too. It's a night sorcery, it deals damage. It should be boosted.

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If you wield two of these at 80 int, your effective spell buff for Night Comet and Night Shard will be 572. If you were to use one of these and Lusat's in your other hand, you will be doing 536 on the spells. In the scenario where you commit to using these two spells, it is incredibly worth using two of them, and will have the best sorcery dps in the game, bar none. Incredibly underrated staff, and I could see more people speccing into using just these for the sheer damage in the future. If you wanted to push the damage even further, you could tack on the sorcery boost talismans. With the 8% version, you will be hitting 617 spell buff, and if you add the 4% version on top you will hit 641. Adding Magic Scorpion and assuming pvp will be another 8% netting you to 692. If you drink a physick with magic damage, you will reach another 15%, putting you at 795. If you were to stand in a Terra Magica, you will get another 35%, putting you at 1073. Even with all these buffs, we can still go further, having a buff from Golden Vow, adding another 7.5% giving you 1153. Now, there is one final buff, a cooperator using Commander's Standard, to yield a final 20% increase, giving you a total spell buff of 1383. One thing I forgot to mention is that since these stack multiplicatively, I wasn't keeping the decimals in and dropped them for each increase, so 1383 is a little under the true total value. At the end of all of this, is it really feasible? No, but it is fun to theory craft and see how potentially busted this staff can be with these spells, and I think I was able to paint a good picture of how potentially busted it can be. There is no doubt that you can realistically hit 692 consistently though, which might draw your attention.

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In my own opinion, I can't really see the point of using it. This staff's always been in the background compared to other, more meta-related staves such as the Lusat staff or Azur staff. I might be turning a blind eye here, though the Staff of Loss' function isn't clear to me. Perhaps you guys notice its purpose, but for now, it's practically invisible for me.

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... so who's to say this staff really doesn't have a glintstone, it's probably just invisible, too.

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Finally the faith scaling staff for thorn sorceries

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Staff of Loss +25 352 Sorcery Scaling at 99 Intelligence.

Night Comet Results against unaware Wolf at Raya Main Academy Gate (all staves maxed in results shown below)
Modifiers - Graven-Mass Talisman
SoL - 1468
Lusat's Glintstone Staff - 1384
Carian Regal Scepter - 1249
SoL and Lustat's - 1794
SoL and Carian - 1619

Dual wielding can make quite the impact but if you plan to only use one staff in a hand then this staff is completely viable if night sorcery plans to be your main arsenal.

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Want to point out that the "invisible" spells don't get dodged by enemies A.I. making them very good against mobile bosses like Melania.

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This staff doesn't seems to appear to me.

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Works well as a left hand staff with something more potent in the right hand, boost still applies, if you have two of these one in each hand, boost stacks.

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While this staff is able to cast other sorceries, despite its description, it may deal less damage with those other spells. Is anyone able to test this?

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While this staff is able to cast other sorceries, despite its description, it may deal less damage with those other spells. Is anyone able to test this?

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Makes night comet not bad to use. Might I dare to say good

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Standard +1 = Sorc scaling 132
+2 = 134
+3 = 136
+4 = 139
+5 = 141
+6 = 143
+7 = 146
+8 = 148
+9 = 150
+10 =155
Fml waste of stones unless you like the look, Demi-Human Queen still better scaling
At some point INT scaling goes up to A, but meh.

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there is a talisman that completely hides you if you are far enough away from enemies.
https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Concealing+Veil

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People are saying this doesn’t boost unseen form but I invaded a guy who’s phantom was completely invisible. If this staff wasn’t behind it than did he use a glitch of some kind?

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Inaccurate. Invis sorceries don't include Ambush Shard, Night Maiden's Mist, Unseen Blade, or Unseen Form. The only sorceries boosted are night shard and night comet. I tested it myself.

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Boosts Night Shard damage by about 30%

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description says that the glintstone is missing while it is here but just invisible like what the staff do to you!

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In case anyone was wondering, the bubble spells count as invisibility spells... So for you fellow bubble blowers out there, this staff is for you

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Doesn't boost "Unseen Form". Tested it with timer.
Staff of Loss: 30secs
Meteorite Staff: 30secs

No need for me to use it then.

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Perfect for an assassin Spell style. The invisible Comet and Shard are only reallly useful invading on dark areas/night time tho, making rolling through them a pain. You can see the purple trace slightly on well iluminated areas or outside.

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Oh no

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Could this be loss?

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What does scaling with Dex mean? So if my build is dex/int this staff will gain more scaling?

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I wonder if "Invisibility Sorcery" includes Sellian magic like Night Comet and Ambush Shard. Other than increasing the duration, I'm unsure of how it could boost spells like Hidden Body.

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The spell 'Night Comet' that can be found in roughly the came area behind one of the sealed doors appears to count as an 'Invisibility Sorcery' and is boosted by this staff.

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Currently (as of 28/02/22) this staff is capable of casing normal sorceries despite the description: "This staff is only capable of casting invisibility sorceries".

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Is this

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sellia town. clsoe to first tourch (golden seed)

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Can be found in Sellia, Town of Sorcery on one of the rooftops on a body. You can use Torrent to jump from roof to roof to collect it

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