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After nerfs this spell is a shadow of its former self, i would highly advise against using it, there are better option that are more mana efficient, have better tracking and are easier to get.

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not worth using without the buff from the fishbowl helmet

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who cares if it's useless it's the prettiest sorcery in the game

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Still has better DPS than star shower, but the tracking nerf has pretty much left it as a strictly PvE spell. Small and nimble targets will easily avoid it and cripple your DPS.

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I killed Placidusax and Elden Beast with this, int 99 mind 40, Carian royal septer +10

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Possible solution how to fix them in both PVE and PVP without making their spam overtuned in PVP again:
- Reduce number of stars to 9 and slightly increase damage of each star.
9 stars would be in line with other upgraded tracking spells like Ancient Death Rancor and Collapsing Stars and would deal less total damage than current 12, but would be more viable in late-game, where basic resistances are high enough.
- Increase their range and tracking to match Ancient Death Rancor and Collapsing Stars. Even though they might seem similar after that, they would not be - ADR has slow moving projectiles with long lifetime and increased poise damage, being the pressure / distraction tool, Collapsing Stars pull enemy (which is not always what you want to do, especially if you play a ranged build) and Stars of Ruin would be the dps option with less poise damage than ADR and no pull compared to CS.
- Bring its mana cost in line with these 2 as well - ADR costs 21, CS cost 18, so 20-25 Mana cost is reasonable. As Star Shower costs 23, 24-25 seems the fitting number.

As a result we get a tool that is still an upgrade to Star Shower (more stars and more total damage), but is in line with other Intelligence tracking tools and just has a different purpose.

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Legendary spell? Lol more like useless spell, horrible range and tracking, use star shower instead

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Mages spam this in PvP be like “for the bread and butter I put *****s in the gutta” but I just strafe they sh*t! LOL

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PVP : this is useless

PVE : also useless

Nite : by useless I mean why would you use this ? -that's not a question, it's a statement

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NERFED

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Hot take: This spell was always trash PVE wise, people just liked to spam it in PVP

I would know.
I was one of them.

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Honestly for pvp its only useful as a setup for another spell. People will dodge it 100% but it lasts quite some time and you can cast another spell before this one stops. I like to catch running guys with shattering crystal

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You can tell they’re cool because they’re DARK stars

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Anon 24 Feb 2023___ (ﾉ◕ヮ◕)ﾉ*:･ﾟ✧ ✧ﾟ･: *ヽ(◕ヮ◕ヽ) AGREED

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The tracking is so bad, it needs to be buffed, both in pvp and pve, it's supposed to be legendary spell, so it's supposed to be better than star shower..

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The tracking nerf was too big, the tracking was indeed broken but it didnt need to be nerfed that much, there should be a middle in everything, now it's just useless in pvp

Hopefully from will start unnerfing some stuff in the future

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Okay, so, to be fair, the old Stars of Ruin was pretty terrible to play against and needed to be nerfed in some way. It was too oppressive and braindead to play against. I've played on both sides of it, and as fun as it is to just L1 spam some other L1 spamming Rivers player, it gets old pretty quickly.

That being said, From has obviously overcorrected and the spell is now near worthless, in both PvE and PvP. The spell still does adequate damage, but the tracking is so bad now that only about 1/3 to 1/2 of the projectiles actually hit anything moving faster than a deliberately slow walk. I very frequently do online PvE, and the spell is a waste of FP against most bosses. The tracking is so bad that anything that constantly moves, even dragon sized enemies, are only being hit by maybe 1/3 of the projectiles, and if you try to stand back to account for the tracking, then you very quickly realize that it's one of the shortest ranged spells in the game. It's fine against slow, man sized or larger enemies like Elemer or a Tree Guardian, but for very fast or thrashy enemies, like basically any dragon or the Ulcerated Tree Spirit, it's hilariously bad.

I'm all for it being **** in PvP, but can it please be at least worth considering for PvE? It's one of the coolest looking spells in the game but every time I cast ity soul dies a little.

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for pvp or pve,
Star Shower :
• uses 10 fp less
• has much better tracking
• deals much more poise damage
• has faster casting speed
• has more range
• honestly believe it does more damage that Stars Of Ruined because Star
Shower can actually hit moving enemies
[ CONCLUSION ] fromsoft = maidenless people who hate blood and intelligence... instead Elden Stars (STARS?) and Wave Of Gold (northern lights ?) Is for faith, plus faith has a better, a much better moonlight greatsword, and faith is more connected to blood than arcane, like how ??? and why ?? are blood thorns for Faith instead of arcane ?

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I LOVE ELDEN RIGS

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Another spell made useless because of from's dogshit pvp patches

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Anon 26 2023 00: 42__ (i) this doesn't "outdamges the other star spells" and (ii) the other astronomy spells don't have any track... BTW wish Founding Rain Of Stars had a massive AOE, like an enormous AOE, super big

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still outdamages the other star spells, just with much less tracking

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"Repeated testing shows that it is not possible to fully dodge this sorcery with a standard roll" that's very inaccurate, as it's super easy to dodge (e.g. all you have to do is run left or light or roll twice and you'll take absolutely no damage.

"This sorcery becomes much more viable as a PvP sorcery if the character has the FP to use it regularly" that def. is not true at all anymore, since it is the worst pvp spell now.

"high tracking, high poise damage" that's not true at all, since it has horrid tracking and basically deals zero poise damage (at least in pvp)

FROM hates intelligence & arcane as they are constantly nerfing it... once a nerf is made, Elden Ring becomes that much less enjoyable.

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Anon 11 Dec 2022 21: 21 "I love mage tears" well you and FROMSOFT are the same then, but they 100% hate Intelligence and Arcane so much more lol

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to fix INT, "FROM" needs to make all Space, Blood and Death only / specifically related to Intelligence. For example, why on earth is Eclipse Shotels a faith weapon when it's literally referencing an Eclipse??? plus Destined Death, Deathblight, Deatg lighting,
Death Sorceries, God Slaying attacks should be for INT only... it doesn't make sense that Faith has so many good holy healing / abilities and still be the a stat needed to make a necromancer build (i.e Faith def. can't... like ugh it gives migraines that you MUST have Faith to make a death build... and how you need 50 Faith of elden stars... ouch ouch ouch...

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Funny how mage indtead of using legendary as to rely strictly on beginners/low lvl spell due to nerf cause of pvp.
Wish they do the same for weapons for melee class See how they react..

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Anon 20 Jan 2023 4:10…… ELDEN RING IS ONLY ABOUT FAITH, it has absolutely nothing to do with intelligence, Faith has all the best star attacks (wave of gold looks like northern lights, Faith has the coolest and strongest version of the moonlight greatsword, Faith has MASSIVE/ beautiful lightning bolts in there hands while… Int has super easy to dodge blue or white swords??? Faith has Elden Stars which makes intelligence completely loose it’s identity, Faith has dragons, Faith has healing, and FAITH = Death, deathblight, death sorceries, destined death (black/red flames), god slaying incantations (black/white flames another nope of necromancy that drains health. I can on and on, but there’s no point, there’s no point in making an INT build when you can just make a Faith build. Ouch

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I wanted to make a Touhou build but this spell seems bad now, sad! It's supposed to be a legendary sorcery so it should be very powerful

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SoR:
Single charged cast 3460 damage against MoG Erdtree Avatar
-No crown
-Terra magica
-magic-shrouding cracked tear
-Lusat’s staff at 88 int.
-graven school talisman
-magic scorpion charm
-Godfrey Icon

Comet (not Azur):
Single charged cast 2385 damage against MoG Erdtree Avatar
-same variables as above

Stars of Ruin does significantly higher damage (at least against this enemy) even without the crown and without the optimal bonuses. People who are saying this is trash are pre-nerf whiners who are mad they can’t cheese in PvP anymore.

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I love mage tears

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Man Stars of Ruin has been Stars of Ruined

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Simple Glinstone spells deal better damage and are more mana efficient in PVE, it's total trash to use as of 1.07.

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you need something the ai can't dodge? night comet with staff of loss in off-hand. this spell is mostly trash now.

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I understand why they did the nerf but I wish it was a PvP only nerf like buffs get, maybe that's too hard to put to code so I guess we're stuck with this...

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still pretty good in pve after the nerf.

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Now this spell useless. Stupid omen dodge 10 stars just strafe lol. It’s impossible to hit night cavalry too. Wonder why from cannot separate pvp and pve

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Was helping out a friend in Raya Lucaria and got invaded by a pure int build that spammed this the whole time. Its so fun to just run circles and not get hit by this. When the game first came out I exclusively used this as finisher on duels, I wonder if that strategy still works

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I feel kind of bad about how harshly this was nerfed. Hopefully it gets a damage buff so it's not just a worse Star Shower

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After many PVP matches and invasions, can confirm that the latest patch nerfed this badly. It is way easier to dodge and is now easily outclassed by Star Shower for PVP purposes. Still works decently in PVE but I would still recommend Star Shower for a couple of reasons.

1. Stars of Ruin has less range and inferior tracking, yet it costs 65% more FP to cast. It does more damage but the tradeoff doesn't seem worth it, especially since the nerf.

2, Star Shower is superior in PVP. Not only does it have longer range but the stars move quicker when closing in on the target and the tracking is amazing. You will land far more consistently against opponents vs Stars of Ruin.

Overall, with a good amount of INT and a proper setup, Star Shower is just a generally better workhorse spell due to superior damage to FP ratio, better range and tracking and far better utility in PVP situations.

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I can agree that it needed a nerf, but a spell that is sold by its tracking (even in its description) being able to get not just dodged, but avoided by just running to side? That seems counterintuitive.

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I never used it before nerf cause you know why, but now i do and i like it a lot. Overall damage is better than star shower, maybe lower on one star? Im not sure. But basically its stronger, looks cooler but has worse tracking. Its much mofe likely to hit when opponent is in mid range rather that near the end of spell range - this is where people can just outrun it to the side.

Also it is very strong for PVE

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Nerfed to the ground. Magic is dead again, like always has in souls.

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don't worry, it's still fine.
it's just that since it was never meant to be spammed( like all the other broken stuff that got finally nerfed with the last patch ), people will now have to figure out other ways to use it.

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Idk why people are saying it's dead. I'm honestly getting the exact same results as I have been pre nerf though they're only on duels since I don't invade much. Maybe in invasions or 1v2/1v3 PvP situations this spell isn't as good anymore but idk, feels pretty much the same except I occasionally end up doing no damage since the enemy dodges it instead of hitting for 200 since at least 2 beams would always hit without BHS. And if I'm being honest, that's not a deal breaker for me since I'm confident enough in hitting with other spells for more damage. I don't like the "lol casual" or "git gud" mentality a lot of Souls players have but in this instance, it legit feels like the only people who think the nerf killed this spell are those that spam it or gankers.

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RIP
Nuff said

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Na na na na, na na na na, hey hey heyyy

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I'd say it's still good, it's just that now you don't have to be good at touhou to dodge the whole thing.

Instead, you can just strafe to the side like most other spells

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You could say that stars of ruin
Got ruined
*Badoom-tesh*

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Stars of useless.

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Magic Downpour + Stars of Ruins at mid range pretty much deletes anything that doesn't have high HP or any sort of magic protection.

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The crimsonwhorl Bubble tear works great against this

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Stars of Ruin is like the real-world Brilliant Pebbles program that Elon Musk is building:
https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Starlink#Military_satellites

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Stars of Urine

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stars of spam

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Everyone talking about how awful it is to go against in PvP, meanwhile I'm just here using it for enemies that input read any other spell in PvE :v

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Amazing for bosses such as Melania

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Dodging inwards totally breaks the tracking this spell often allowing you to take low to no damage. Also it has 0 poise break if you're really annoyed just run through it and attack the mage. Eternal darkness, erdtree greasheild, any high magic resistance shield using magic shield grease or scholars shield 100% block this. Honestly an entirely over-rated and generally useless ability in pvp if you know how to counter it. This spell is only effective on people at mid range who dodge to the side instead of in. On my battle mage or my melee only took I literally dumpster mages that spam this. If they're using blood hound step just sever BHS is cheating anyway.

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stars of ruin my beloved

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Even if you somehow keep distance this and Cannon of Haima are the only two things people actually fall for in pvp, otherwise a sorcery build is just support for your melee friend in a gank: sorcery in its current form just isn't reactive enough vs melee.

So if you nerf stars of ruin, what deterrent do mages have against katana lovers or blood/frost spam pokes on dual halberd, except build something else and level yourself out of a sorcery build? Actual guidance would be nice here.

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"Just dodge stars of ruin"

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the perfect bloodhound step counter~

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Stars of Ruined PvP.

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This sorcery has a special place in hell lol

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Unless you fight with your bare fists in your underwear, then you can't play pvp.

The only form of PvP I hate, are those that cannot win, then waste your time running away.

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>Attuning this reduces the player's maidens to zero.

bruh

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PVE wise this is not very cost effective damage wise, but it makes up with its tracking.
Enemies that can dodge around most sorceries won't be able to dodge this one (works with ambush shard, glintstone sigil, and etc as well but they are weaker than this one when it comes to damage)

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Cheapest sorcery in the game for PvP. Hope they nerf speed & damage, or even better remove this crap. Would love to fight unique mages but 99% just spam this and run away. So annoying.

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***est sorcery in the game for PvP. Hope they nerf speed & damage, or even better remove this crap. Would love to fight unique mages but 99% just spam this sh*t and run away.

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I dont think its op, but it sure is annoying as hell. As a sorcerer - i never used it cause i dont want to associate with moonveil losers but also there are many more effective spells that doesnt require you to be boring and backing away all the time

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People who whine about this in pvp are the same people that use cheesy broken things like rivers of blood. Most sorceries are easy to dodge in pvp. This one isn't broken, it's just popular, because it's almost always some guaranteed damage. It's not the fault of magic users that almost every other spell is garbage in pvp. It's also extremely expensive to use.

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Hold on lemme blood hound step away, spam this, chug, then somehow get cornered in a circular arena. Oh yeah I have 19 vigor but 80 mind. I think I should keep leveling up until I’m 170. What do you mean chugging is not allowed in duels? You PvPers and your unspoken rules. Well if you didn’t rush me I wouldn’t have to spam blood hound step. You’re just mad about all the build variety. Invasions shouldn’t be in the game anyways.

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still not as good as oracle bubbles

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I don’t understand why people are hating on this spell. Yes it’s powerful and can be cheesy but it has its limitations, the huge FP cost for one.

And to the larger point of so called “overpowered” abilities or weapons, so what? The game gives you these tools and if you want to have an easier time or are struggling with something then you can use them. If you want to feel more heroic or whatever don’t.

I can’t speak to the PvP aspect because I only play the game offline but if PvP action is what you’re looking for then this game isn’t exactly the best place for it, with lack of balance being the least of the problems.

What folks are describing here is literally being upset because they brought a knife to a magic missile machine gun fight. You know perfectly well the fight wasn’t fair so don’t get upset if/when you lose.

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Paired with Godfrey Icon, Graven Mass Talisman, and possibly (if your setup allows) Radagon Icon (unless your Dex is at least 70, then no benefit) and wearing Lusat’s Glintstone Crown with a staff in one hand and something with Bloodhound Step in the right hand, you can be a boss wrecking machine. I just solo’d Maliketh (no ash summons or any summons) with that combo, and it’s amazing for fast moving, agile bosses. I also used this setup for Godskin Duo, again with no summons and it SLAYS.

What I like most about it is that, although it’s powerful, I still felt like I needed to learn the bosses’ moves and actually get good at timing and dodges. It didn’t feel like a Cerulean Hidden Tear nuke, it was just a very potent tool. Still took tons of tries and I learned their moves throughly, just a great asset in the toolbox.

I only really see this spell mentioned for PVP but it’s incredibly powerful, fun, and visually stunning in PVE as well!

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I don't know what they were thinking putting something like this in the game. Between this and so much more it at least appears like the PvP element was an afterthought and they didn't spend much time on making things balanced or reasonable.

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I have this spell memorized specifically to deal with invaders. We don't want you here, so deal with the spam and move on with your life.

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This spell is amazing in PvE as well. For any fast moving bosses, spam and dodge. Beat Maliketh 1st try.

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I love hopping on to Elden Ring pvp only for my game's title to suddenly change to "The Touhou Project". Love it. Very cool. Very nice. No salt here no no no NOOOO.

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I see Rivers of Blood? I use Stars of Ruin. Deal with it.

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Easy answer buff shops barrier.

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This spell is so cheap, I forbid myself to use it. Unless I want to finish the last person in a gank group. Watching him rolling away, squealing like a pig before his inevitable death is so satisfying.

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I do think it should have slighty slower recovery for useful it is and easy to spam.

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Thankfully this spells do not deal poise damage, soo jump attack their faces or roll catch them with running attack

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does this receive the damage boost from Rotten Winged Sword Insignia and such?

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This spell *annihilates* Malenia. She can't dodge it effectively and eats the entire barrage almost every time. Just focus on maintaining as much distance as possible at all times and cast away while she's walking towards you menacingly. Which she likes to do a lot when you're far from her.

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what a fun and interactive spell to counterplay in pvp, thank you miyazaki

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If you use this spell in duels combined with bhs, you’re a b*tch. Just putting it out there.

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I want to pair this with Millicent's Prosthesis to see how hard it ends up hitting after 1 or 2 volleys.

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The fact that this is hidden at the end of a quest line and needed for an achievement is one of the most brain dead things I’ve see in while

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I used this with spell buffed with:
Lusat's Crown, Lusat's Glintstone Staff +7, 62 Int, Magic Scorpion Charm, Radagon's Icon, Terra Magica, Magic Shrouding Cracked Tear, and Hidden Cerulean Tear.

to kill the dragon tree sentinel. As soon as his health bar pops up, just pop Terra Magica, sip your physic, and send the stars at him until your FP bar dries up. I had to dodge one or two flame thrower attacks, but this spell melted and stuttered him with every cast.

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Causes Melania to spam waterfowl dance. Not recommended for that fight unless you have a good coop partner.

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Not that good of a spell in my opinion, for such a high cost it doesnt give as much damage as i think it should. Its tracking is brutal though, so if your fighting something that moves fast or a lot then this will still get them and it can make them stagger pretty easily after which you can get some extra hits in.

So although the damage isnt as high i think it should be for the cost, it definitely has its uses in combat.

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I just dueled a guy who literally just backpedaled and spammed this for the entire fight; it’s literally impossible to not get hit at least a little bit so you’ll just get chipped to death the whole time

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I use this to finish off low health players that run away from me, as it is really difficult and tedious to catch roll spamming at times but maybe I can get better at that.

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I'm not sure but Silver Mirrorshield with some extra magic defense might help to mostly nullify it's damage

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i dont play pvp so i can comment on that regard but pve wise this spell is very fun on a int/faith build. i use ancient death rancor followed by star ruins and rush into enemies. the combination of those 2 spells are just the right speed and do good stagger/posture break and damn near nuke some bosses

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Last night I met the truest ever maidenless team: one guy spamming this and the other spamming elden stars constantly to the point where the only valid defense was level geometry.

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