Starscourge Greatsword | Elden Ring Wiki

"You like fist of the north star, I want to FIST the north star. We are not the same." - General Radahn

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Is this good? Weapon art seems very expensive, 40 fp total is a lot for my pure str ass

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R2 should've been that spin move he does

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there's something very special about walking into a room, seeing a couple enemies running towards you, and just pressing l2 and seeing them all crumple to their knees

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People really complain about pvp and RKGS,first this isnt meant to be a continuation to dark souls and then have you tried playing with another weapon instead,some are simply not meant for pvp if u cant play offline like a normal being.dweebs

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I powerstance 2 pairs of starscourge greatswords bc i have a big pp

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So lame that the weapon shares a moveset with the powerstance ugs. It should have had the ringed knight greatswords moveset

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neato

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Not sure why people hate these things when they nearly outdamage giant crusher for jump attacks at 20 weight, it's like 100 less stats points for the same output but no RKR, which just slows you down to activate anyway thus less stance/stagger.

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Honestly I really like using his swords its pretty fun

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radahn idolized his dad so much even his weapons sucks worse than radagons sword

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somebody know "size" for that ? want to make one (diy)

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This thing is way too short and the AOW is just backstab bait

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these swords wish they could be the ringed knight paired greatswords. im dissapointed

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After using lion's claw on my last build, I switched to this weapon. As fun as this aow is, it has no hyperarmor which is annoying if you get hit during it.

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this wiki is wrong. you cannot get the benefits of two handing if you don't meet the requirements.

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Chad swords

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radahn

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When I reach level 10, I kill Radahn with poison arrows.

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My friend, this is a curved great sword, it’s not that much larger then Beastman, and also, the CGS power stance move set is better then ultra great swords power stance. This should of been made a paired CGS and then made a different weapon a paired ultra GS.

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Radahn can swing these wildly and whirlwind around the arena but when we use it its just the generic powerstancing moveset, with the shortest range of it's class too. I really wanna like this weapon more but c'mon From, talk about disappointing... (just like half the weapons in this game)

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I liked Elden Ring's Starscourge Greatsword because of Dark Souls III's Ringed Knight Paired Greatswords

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Lazy design. Ringed Knight Great Sword has an incredibly diverse moveset and about 50 different interactions within it depending on what order you use the possible attack options within a combo. This just has a basic UGS moveset and tries to compensate for it by adding the typical Elden Ring Glowstick Nuke for its L2.

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What am I doing wrong with this thing? Powerstanced, everything feels too slow with no reach. Jumping R1s are the only thing that seems to do any sort of damage and not be hard to hit. Ash of war is so easy to dodge and has so much cool down. Is the one handed crouch poke really the best move?

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The AoW should coat the swords in rocks like cragblade does. It could have also used a special R2 move when buffed like the ornamental straight swords do.

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Jigachad swords.

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One of my all time favorite invasion weapons cause it’s funny using the weapon art to fling people off ledges. Also it just looks cool.

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Gonna say it, Ringed Knight Paired Greatsword moveset could’ve fix this weapons problem in a heartbeat

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Another one of those weapons that show how bad fromsoft balances weapons. Just get 2 broad swords and you will have more damage per swing,swing 6 times faster,more reach and you won't get staggered out of your slow ass attacks every time. Not to mention its atrociously slow weapon art that deal no damage.

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Up until Radahn I'd been using dual greatswords with the Gravitas AoW. I wasn't aware that it was essentially a poor-man's Starscourge build - I just loved the flow of pulling enemies in before destroying them with the dual swords. You can imagine my joy upon trying this out for the first time!

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This should have a different skill (Starcaller Stance?): normal attack for Starcaller Cry and heavy attack for Cragblade

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awkward issues with r2's and range aside I aint gonna say no to a fun colossal sword powerstance moveset for 20 weight tbh

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This weapon is trash compared to the PKCS, only nubs and casuals run around with this piece of garbage.

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crazy damage, can get in early game and stunlock 95% tough enemies you meet so you can easily destroy the land between, d(s)ex user can't like this masterpiece

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During the first week of release every ghost I saw was using this weapon. Now not so much

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really wish these had a unique moveset when dual wielding

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Used to be decent and relatively balanced for pvp, now complete garbage. All you can hope for is that someone gets caught by the smash due to server lag, disappointingly awful weapon for anything but farming runes.

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Can you parry these?

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Use in mohgwhin Palace at the start

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Not sure if this is listed but there is a bug for me where when I increase my Strength (listed as the top scaling attribute) the displayed damage of the weapon, both on the weapon's description and in my AR, does not change. However the actual damage does (I think?). Maybe just a visual bug.

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A sword wielded by a troll requires more intelligence than the swords of the most powerful gravity sorcerer to have lived.

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Was looking over the motion values because I noticed some inconsistencies between this colossal and the others. Specifically, the poise damage motion values. For those who do not know, there's a 30% increase in the base poise damage on the R1s for all weapons when you use them 2 handed as opposed to 1 handed. R2s also get a poise damage buff of 10%. There's also a negative modifier for duel wielding of 40% on each weapon. This leads to some interesting outcomes, namely, that 2H R1s will deal more poise damage, and usually come out quicker than duel wield attacks, which makes them better for poise break.

I expected the 2H moveset of the radhan swords to behave in this manner, since they are paired weapons and are duel wielded instead of two handed traditionally. However, what I found was that the 2H/paired moveset on this thing was way way worse for poise breaks than colossals being duel wielded. So I looked at the numbers and sure enough, the paired moveset on this thing has modifiers that lower it's poise damage by a lot for some reason. For reference, the motion value for 1H colossal sword R1 is 240, while for 2H colossal sword R1 it is 312 (30% increase from the 1H R1), and the duel wield L1 has a mv of 144 + 144 (40% lower for each weapon). For the radhan swords, the paired R1 has a modifier of 90 + 90, which is lower than 1H R1. This means that if you were using 1 radhan sword with like a shield/ staff in the offhand, the R1s will break stance faster than if you were using both the swords.

To put hard numbers on this, 1H colossal sword R1 does 14.4 poise damage, while 2H R1 does 18.72 poise damage. Radhan's 2H/ paired R1 does 4.95 + 4.95 = 9.9 poise damage. This weapon is horrible for stance breaks, which is really sad for a colossal. For reference, this means hitting someone with 2 radhan swords is worse for poise damage than hitting them with the nerfed flame of the redmanes.

Additionally, the paired moveset of these swords don't get the pvp modifier for some reason, which means you can tank a paired R1 against the radhan swords with 100 poise, which makes it even worse than what I already assumed of the weapon in pvp.

I really hope from fixes this and also gives these a better moveset than the standard paired colossal sword moveset. You literally have the RKPGS moveset for DS3, why won't you port it over?

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“You may have adopted my likeness… but you are NOT my equal!”

- Ringed Knight Paired Greatswords

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After fighting Malenia for hours with those and not seeing any stance breaks, I looked at in-game stats, and saw those swords don't deal the same stance / poise damage as dual-wielding other colossal swords. Even 2-handing a Zweihander gives more stance damage overall. Real shame, they deal very good damage and the skill is great, but the range, moveset and stance damage put together holds them back.

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To all the people arguing that Radahn's swords are just too large to be paired Curved Greatswords and it's best that they are Colossal Swords, I have one thing to say: have you ever heard of something called the Blasphemous Blade?

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Really cool weapon, but they were just so lazy when designing the moveset. They really just gave the swords of the mightiest demigod the one-handed colossal heavy attacks.

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Does Skill work with Shard of Alexander?

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Would this at +8 with 60 int be capable of one shutting the albanaurics in Mohgwyn palace? If not, what buffs would allow it to do so?

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chode ultra greatsword

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C'mon, FromSoft, 2-handed fist and claw weapons use both hands in their heavy attacks, why can't this ? Why not a few slams one sword after the other, or a spin attack, like Radahn does in his fight ?

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The Two-handed jump attack has NOT been decreased by 20% in patch 1.9. Tested with two individual +10 Radahn swords. Both two handed and powerstance do the same damage. Stop spreading misinformation.

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I really liked using this for my radahn build, lots of fun both pve and pvp. My only quibble is the reach is... stubby. Its not the end of the world and moreso a problem in pvp. You have the issue of getting outclassed by anyone with a greatsword reach wise (and to some extent damage wise, the way it works out with how many times you'll whiff). You basically cant hit anything you cant cough on given that someone just has to backstep. This issue also occurs from time to time pve wise. Given the many patches, i cant imagine itll get changed any time soon and i dont think any other aspects of the weapon are in need of changing for the most part. I guess hypothetically they could make them a little faster but given their paired nature and stance break pressure i could see it getting stupid fast.

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Over powered weapon for PVP IMO, any slack jawed static brained invader can just sit on that one ledge at first step and 1-KO you with either fall damage or their goofy build, good counter? Long distance or just force quit the game, not worth the time or pain fighting against.

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Epic boss, epic weapon(s), epic art. Sucks to be any other boss with lame boss weapon.

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So I have done some further calculations regarding the skill's damage reduction, because I noticed that beside the damage reduction at 45%, there is also for some reason an increase in damage taken from pierce damage type. So anyway, my outcomes are as follows.

Upon activating the skill in combat, you firstly receive a +15% post-mitigation damage taken status for pierce damage only. A split second after that you receive the flat 45% post-mitigation damage reduction on all stats, which combines with the pierce damage increase for a brief period. after another split second, the pierce damage increase goes away, leaving you with the flat 45% post-mitigation damage reduction. This damage reduction lasts through the entire animation of the roar part of the skill, including its wind-down. This wind-down is cut and replaced by start-up of the smash part of the skill, however the damage reduction's duration remains the same, whether you buffer the second part of the skill or not.

To clarify the post-mitigation damage and how it combines in the case of pierce damage, let's use an example. When you have 20.000 pierce damage reduction from armor, upon activating of the skill, the +15% damage increase adds 15% damage to post-mitigation damage, so in this case 15% of 80, which is 12, so you'll end up with 8 pierce reduction for a split second. Then you will receive 45% post-mitigation damage reduction. (side note: damage reduction seems to have priority over damage increase), which in this case is 45% of again 80 which 36, resulting in a total reduction of 20+36=56 for all other damage types except pierce, to which we now have to add the 15% post-mitigation damage increase. The 15% is now calculated from the damage left over after adding the 45%, so from 44, which is 6.6, so we subctract that from 56, resulting in 49.4. Sooo, with everything said, your damage reductions where we start at all reductions at 20.000 will look like this in the split second when all effects of the skill are in effect.

Phy - 56.000
Str - 56.000
Sla - 56.000
Pie - 49.400
Mag - 56.000
Fir - 56.000
Lig - 56.000
Hol - 56.000

After the 15% pierce damage increase wears off, you'll be left with all reductions at 56.000.

I hope this all makes sense and sheds some light on how the game calculates damage reductions and damage increases combined when using skills in general.

I'd appreciate if some editor could somehow simplify these findings and add them to the weapon's page above.

Thanks for coming to my TED talk and giving me something to procrastinate over while I am supposed to be writing my thesis.

Cheers.

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Ash of war is a mashup between the defense bonus from stamp / the poise (but not unflinching buff) from perseverance / and gravitas.

If you're in combat the first part of the AOW will actually increase your defense by a +value somewhere around the 50% range.

went from 35.588 Physical defense to 64.574.

Haven't seen any mention of this on the wiki, so I thought it'd be worth sharing.

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To anyone who watched the fextra build guide. When it comes to your wondrous physic mixture, I feel like fextra completely forgot to mention the thorny cracked tear, which is the obvious choice for a build that also uses the attack rating increase talismans. I tried it myself on the mohgwyn palace albinaurics farming spot the the damage of the weapon skyrockets with it. I would definitely uses that either in tandem with or as a replacement to the magic-shrouding tear.

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Fashion advice: Try using these weapons with the Maliketh’s armor set. This setup feels like the armor and weapon were made for each other, both with the black and gold color schemes as well as the maliketh armor providing exactly 51 poise to cater to colossal weapon gameplay. You will need exactly 35 endurance to wear both and have some extra weight for any talismans, including slightly heavier ones like winged sword insignia or millicent’s prosthesis.

Side note, along with golden vow, FGMS, magic-shrouding tear and fully charged talismans mentioned above, this weapon can reach up to 1600 AR at +9, and the WA can accomodate for occasional usage of terra magica, further boosting its damage to absurd levels.

Overall, these swords are a big fashion statement with insane min-max potential. :)

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Fashion advice: try using these with the Maliketh’s armor set. This setup feels like the weapon and armor were made for each other.

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This should've been a curved greatsword and it should've give you two swords per soul instead of just one. If you are not using it dual-wield, you are literally carrying a Greatsword without the damage of the Greatsword and you can't even two-hand it so it's inferior to every greatsword when it comes to it's damage and it's ash is nearly impossible to hit too.

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These make for a really solid alternative to the Sacred Relic Sword for farming the Palace Approach albinaurics. You can buff the damage as necessary with the highland axe and roar talisman as mentioned, as well as the Warrior Jar Shard or Shard of Alexander, since you'll be using the weapon art to draw in large clumps of the froggy fellows and then blasting them with the skill's repeated input. If the weapon art inflicts magic damage it might also be subject to the magic scorpion charm + and/or shrouded physick but I can't be quoted on that.

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Believe it or not, they are a great weapon to kill malenia

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10/10
-Everybody

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Another victim of the ash of war pvp nerf. The roar will only do like 200-300 damage to players even with roar buffs

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This and all of the other gravity themed weapons are missed opportunities for all physical weapons that scale off int. They barely have any magic damage or scaling anyways

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bro what is that base damage. "let's make it do like 20% less physical damage than a pure phys colossal sword, then let's give it 200 magic damage"

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Using this and abusing starcaller cry with a mimic made malenia trivial on one of my playthroughs, like, no chance in hell for her, at +9 stagger on every hit and starcaller cry would chain off mimic doing the same allowing for repeated pull/push/pull/push chains.

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Best AoE ash in the game. Not only hits enemies through walls, it goes through floors & ceilings too. If I hear anything walking above or below me I’ll hit it for easy kills.

Vertical range is sick too, I’ve used it to kill archers on rooftops from underneath or pull them off to finish on the ground.

Best ash for shutting down ambushes & hidden enemies. Saved me so many times 1st playthrough clearing rooms before walking in.

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This is one of the best weapons of the game. I 7-8 hit standart bosses with these blades upgraded to +6

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Using these with Mimic Tear and Erdtree begs me not to demolish its ass

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On release I remember doing extremely little stagger damage with these (not just posture break, but basic staggers) is that still the case? They felt like they did great damage but I think I moved to the ruins greatsword just so enemies didn't keep getting free hits on me

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What is the double hand button on ps4?

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kinda sad that the heavy attacks only use one blade

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It's funny how equipping one of these in each left and right hand slot does more damage than using one and two-handing it.

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1 handing this with a shield is probably the most cursed thing i've seen in this game

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Really cool weapon design wise with a good AoW for farming and dealing with groups of enemies. Those Albenaurics never saw it coming.

Also, just pointing out a small typo in the quote, shouldn't it say "In HIS youth" not "in THIS youth?" Sorry if this is a nitpick, but it was bothering me a bit.

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i fear people who 1 hand this weapon

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I tested this with 15 and with 55 int dex an str stayed the same 0+ and noone mentioned that the ash of war benefits greatly with more investment in int no lie I was doing 3500 raw to banish Knights at castle sol ng1+ with SoA talisman.

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When i saw radahn's weapons, i thought elden ring had curved ultra greatswords, i am heavily dissapointed and rate elden ring a 1/10

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Royal knights paired greatswords got a MASSIVE downgrade in elden ring, sad to see

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First weapon I maxed out.

Still my go to, to absolutely demolish anything. Combine with Mimic Tear and you are a ****ing travesty in the lands between.

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First weapon I maxed out.

Still my go to, to absolutely demolish anything. Combine with Mimic Tear and you are a ****ing travesty in the lands between.

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This thing rocks with the following:

The Rogier armor set but using raptor's feather, flame grant me strength, highland axe

talismans: Magic scorpion charm, shard of Alexander, claw talisman, roar talisman

Any seal and the highland axe in main and this offhand

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One of the few "paired" weapons in the game. For 20 weight you get two colossal swords. That means they're 10 weight each! A really nice deal if you want the move set, but you also want to skimp on Endurance.

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does anyone else get a bug where the first part of L2 (the cry) doesn't do damage if they buff with Rallying Cry?

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compared to the ringed knight paired greatswords, the moveset on this is extremely disappointing - they just gave it the powerstanced UGS moveset and nothing more.

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Pretty damn great for a strength build, you get two colossal swords for the weight of one, and it's weapon art is one of the best in the game when it comes to handling groups practically being a magic nuke that annihilates pretty much any mob caught in it, even the initial pull in does some fairly high damage, and it gives you pretty heavy super armor to the point that at 51-60 poise you can facetank several hits without flinching while your winding it up, the weapon art is worse against bosses/giant poisey enemies however and can be hard to pull off against them without being interrupted, but jump attacks do some tremendous damage with these things, to the point that you often shouldn't even bother using other moves (it is kinda boring that its best to just spam jump attacks over and over most of the time tho), the crouch/rolling attacks with this weapon are absolute doodoo unfortunately though.

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This weapon is quickly becoming my favorite Collosal on strength build.

Despite the fact that it's a split damage weapon, and Two Handing it doesn't give you the 50% strength bonus (Since it's a paired weapon) it still outperforms a Single Two Handed collosal in terms of damage, because at the end of the day, it's two Collosal swords for the weight of one.

The range on the pull effect of the Ash of war is huge, and gives you a lot of hyper armor. Most people, especially ones that specialize in ranged combat like mages or archers start panic rolling when pulled into melee range by this thing. The follow up melee hit does enormous damage in an AOE and also has hyper armor, so once you pull them in, they have to dodge, and if they are panic rolling, it's very likely that you will hit them.

You can also delay or simply not cast the follow up hit, so you can play mindgames with your opponent using this ash of war.

Last but not least, Starcaller's Cry is an excellent farming tool for pve. Two full casts of this thing, basically fully clears all the Albinaurics near the Entrance to Mohgs palace, a well known popular farming spot.

All in all I love Starscourge Greatsword, and I like swapping between this, Ruins Greatsword, and Fallingstar Beast's Jaw, for a full gravity magic themed strength build.

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I friendly invaded in lake of rot (law of regression curing) with a trio, they all accepted me once I made it clear I wasn't a threat, it was going well until the radahn cosplayer decided to gravity nuke a death frog and I was caught in the murder circle, I died and the other cooperator started rolling in the rot once I died. 10/10 please don't gravitas your friendly invaders

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Oh no a room full of enemies! *proceed to nuke the room*

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I tried this out for the first time on the Albinaurics downhill from palace approach ledge-road grace after I first got it I had 50 STR and 18 INT and it didn't seem up to much with no upgrades into it but I didn't want to upgrade it from what I had seen. I've just gone back there with the same stats after reading a lot of comments here but this time I had plenty of somber stones to upgrade it to +7 and even with the same 18 INT the difference in the damage from both sword and weapon art just from being upgraded without levelling up my stats is remarkable..

A comment says part or all of the weapon art is not boosted by golden vow, it must have been patched since then because golden vow does make a decent improvement to both parts of the weapon art now now.

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I wish this swords had a unique moveset, either one-handed, powerstanced/two-handed, or both, instead of this generic painful swings that take an entire loading screen worth of time to hit. Honestly, the only usable colossal in terms of moveset is Godslayer's, which is a shame.

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There is an interesting comment on 7th July at 23:14 about how the damage for the weapon art is split and the most effective talismans to use as well. So just to be sure, this sword isn't worthwhile without any investment in INT for the weapon art yes?

I know its masochistic when you compare the comet and meteorite spells or stars of ruin with flame of the fell god and elden stars two supposedly high end incantations that both need TWO memory slots, FotFG works fine and can do a lot of damage if you and the enemy its cast at are on a perfectly flat surface, any difference in elevation or rocks or whatever that might get in the way a little and it turns into a fun kind of elden ring Russian roulette if used on a powerful enough enemy, it might explode knocking the enemy up and do a lot of damage or it might explode knock the enemy up but do less than two hundred damage to a strong enemy you've just p**sed off immensely. Elden stars does holy damage so even when it does work like it's supposed to it has little value against late game bosses or enemies with the high holy damage negation, the only decent use I've found for it is against the c**t of a death rite bird at consecrated snowfield, so it was good for one optional boss.

Even accepting all that I still prefer incantations over sorcery. The LTN strike and stone of gurranq incantations can both be cast repeatedly and with the right stats and incant scaling both are very effective for FTH melee hybrids. LTN strike can do silly damage and when used smartly stone of gurranq can give some spectacular results, seeing it destroy a strong enemy's poise and bring it to its knees for a critical hit is a thing of beauty, its also versatile and cheap to cast.

There's more to my reluctance to use spells though, now and again I see a white shadow using sorcery waving his or her spell stick about wearing a dress with a massive stone head on top and looking like an absolute w**ker while doing it regardless of how effective the spell might be.

Compare that to using the LTN strike incantation, you stand there heroically in your tree sentinel armour while half a dozen roided out Albinaurics come rushing at you, your greatsword in one hand with a softly glowing sacred seal in the other. No helm for you, striking cold fear into your enemies when they get close enough to see your eyes glowing orange from accepting the crazy flame into your heart better than any head protection. Just as the Albinaurics get close enough to think they are going to f**k your s**t up you reach up into the sky calling down the elements to stop all enemies rushing you dead in their tracks from the lightning raining down on their heads and in no time at all dead full stop. So yeah FTH melee for the win.

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Curved greatswords of black steel wielded by General Radahn. colossal sword

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What's sta in the upgrade area?

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Oversized blades of chaos

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Personally I used this weapons in duels before, and I gotta say it's kinda trash. The whole strat is to use WA and hope that the opponent gets baited into the next attack. All of it's attack is way too slow to actually land in PVP. If you still insist on using this for PVP, I'd suggest that go for Single handed crouch R1 once in a while as the fast attack really throws the opponent off expecting heavily delayed attack

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Its a crime that you can't wield these the same way Radahn does while your on horseback.

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Phenomenal farming weapon if you’re a completionist, the AoW Roar can kill a lot of enemies before they even aggro and most lesser enemies that survive the roar will be demolished by the follow up slam, but the moveset in general is so slow that trying to fight really any boss or mini boss that puts up a fight will be a miserable experience.

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You can grab people right through a wall with this weapon art. As long as they are within the pull radius nothing can stand between it.

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