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double straight sword my go-to relax and turn your brain off build. high damage, high speed, versatile

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I wonder if the barbed sword will appear in the DLC. Kirk would actually be some what of a threat now, thanks to how bleed works.

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Coded sword is the goat

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I’m hoping we get a straight sword in the DLC with something like Penetrating Sword move set from DeS. ER SS movesets are pretty boring aside from Warhawk talons. I am a straight sword enthusiast and straight sword gamer.

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Whats up with the hitboxes on these when dual-wielded? You have to dodge immediately to not get hit, but when you do dodge you just get rollcaught by the same attack you just dodged.

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Lazuli sword, sword of night and flame and carian sword are my favourite but the rest are just bad

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whats the best straight sword for crit build?

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It seems to me straight swords in ER are simply not interesting? What is the point of them if there is such a crushing great epee or an even faster rapier of Rogier? The estocs and katana are longer. The Guardian's spear-sword is almost as fast as straight swords, but longer, with much higher damage.

As a result, I did not find a straight sword to my liking. I really like carian sword in appearance, but his skill is strange.

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ER has two straight swords (weathered, cane) whose numbers are too low to be anything but bad, but not low enough to be funny. I miss the broken straight sword.

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Which one is the best for a dex build?

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This patch made sword and board even worse. Faster and more powerful heavy weapons make them extremely difficult to punish and even harder to set up parry. Also the damage is still weak compared to any katana… and all of katanas drawbacks are negated by simply two handing, unlike straight swords. A great sword should easily win a trade against my small sword… but it shouldn’t be faster and spammier. I have so many fights where my opponent never once gets poise broken, the hyper armor on so many weapons is overkill.

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If there's a Fromsoft employee that reads these wikis... please
... we need a Balder Side Sword or Lothirc Knight Straight Sword. Give us the GOAT sword!

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God Tier when used with a good shield.

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inseparable sword is in some of these tables for some reason

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does Miqu running r2 true combo into r1?

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2 Lordsword's straight sword lv25 with the bloddy slash and sepukku ashes of war is crazy. My arcane is 50 right now and they do 112 in blood loss each sword. You totaly destroy even some of the really strong enemys. And they are great in PvP to. The only thing bad is the reach but you can't get it all i guess.

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not a lot of swords with good shape to em. really disappointed when the knights greatsword turned out to be a GS when i first played.

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big fan of the noble slender sword.... but god i wish we had a dark sword :( especially with the unique R2

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Warhawk's Talon or Noble's Slender Sword, which one should I make for pure dex build?

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We need a straight sword with more range than katanas with more damage in dlc. Please
Michael zaki

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Funny how 2 handing these has never been good, neither in ER nor in DS3. This patch 2h R2 into R1 is faster on greatswords than on straight swords

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I just want the Balder Side Sword back. I miss it.

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honestly dude id be fine if i could just use sword n board in pvp and not feel like im gimping myself

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Now that poise is always on, two handing a weapon for extra poise damage is critically important in PvP if not powerstancing. So it's a shame that the 2H sword moveset is still so terrible. Shortsword has thrusting R2s while 2H, but is also, as described, short. Going through the game, these are still the standard by which all other weapons are measured, but in PvP you better be powerstancing and doing the one good powerstance move the best way you can. Dreadfully dull compared to Dark Souls swordplay.

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Two handed sword move set should’ve been faster version of knights great sword move set, with thrust r2s. All Powerstance move sets need a 30% dmg nerf on simultaneous hits. Straight swords, hammers, axes, collosal swords need a 10% dmg buff. Collosal hammers need like a 30% dmg buff so they can win trades against epee lol epee/halberds need the sweet spot penalty which balanced them in past games. Epee/halberds also need longer recovery on their jousting attacks. And finally, all jump attacks need a massive recovery and instability bonus damage like past games.

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need a thorn-covered straight sword to complete the offbrand knight kirk cosplay with the briar set

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Currently powerstancing miquellan knight sword on the right and carian knight sword on the left. I gotta say, they work wonders. Miquellan has this lunging r2, a proyectile aow and, while it's base damage it's lower, sacred blade buffs it greatly and perma kills who live in death. Carian has a more defensive playstile with the counter r2 and carian grandeur, wich greatly rewards you for the openings you might find. Used in tandem, the dps is absolutely nuts.

And this comes from a str build that has 30 points in dex/faith. You don't even need to invest much for magic and holy.

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Love straight swords but goddamn i wish two handing wasn’t substantially better in every way vs just one handing it with like a shield. I have been having fun using nobles slender with magma whip off hand on my pure fth pyro though, good reach and area denial with whip and the versatility of what is basically the glock 17 of the lands between

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It bothers me that there is no dex/int straight sword but there are 3 str/int straight swords

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Why do people foam at the mouth when you powerstance these? They are the most honest and balanced powerstance setup out of any other weapon in the game that requires spacing and good knowlege of the weapon your enemy is using.

Powerstance anchors: 1 shot 60 vigor players with the correct setup
Powerstance greatspears/spears: Self explanatory.
Powerstance cs: Blenders anything even after poise adjustments.
Powerstance katanas: People using them won the duel tournament and it was so one sided that I fell asleep.
Fists: Blenders everything, most disgusting setup with guranteed true combos.

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Put one of these in each hand and slaughter people in PvP. One of the strongest setups in the whole game.

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Why are there weapons with normal ashes of ser that can't be changed?

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Wish there were more straights downward curved crossguard or small guards. Not a fan of the classic t shape.

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What's the best ash of war and affinity for the broadsword lmao

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Wow. So many opinions posing as facts here. Ignore everyone. Try things out for the movement. Everything's viable. Sweating hard over your AR is just sweaty. If you can hit with it and avoid being hit, you're good.

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The Broadsword is king. Bow before his majesty!

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My life is a lie the longsword has less reach than the short sword!?

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Bro below me overthinking how to use a longsword. Elden Ring meta gaming really got people acting different.

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Single-handed longsword/lordsworn's has a nice moveset (R1: quick wide slashes. R2: long stab) but poor damage output. If anyone wants to use this nice moveset in PVE while also dealing decent damage, I thiiiiiiink a dex/int or even str/int (depending what side perks you're into) Scholar's Armament route is pretty solid. DPS-wise, Scholar's Armament's damage buff is theoretically best with very fast-attacking weapons, particularly the claws, but Longsword has a nice mix of solid speed and nice hitboxes to make up for not having top tier speed. I haven't gone far into the game with this build yet, but I'm thinking of focusing on Dex and Int without much Mind and only some amount of Vigor, essentially making a sort of glass cannon with a high dex Keen sword with high int Scholar's Armament on it. Could also instead go the faith route for Electrify Armament and Bloodflame Blade and Black Flame Blade.

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It’s so obvious what’s wrong with these. Just neuter or remove simultaneous hits from all powerstance move sets. There is no reason for a double sword L1 to win against an r1 collosal trade. Convert the double damage/status/poise dmg of these simultaneous L1s into 30% modifiers and never make them the opening move of PS move sets. This isn’t a nerf to powerstance because PS move sets still have access to r1s for quick hits and r2/L2 for poise breaks and damage. And katana L1 spam is still popular despite less double hits.

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Disappointed there's no spiritual successor to the Irythll straight sword

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To the people complaining that there are no good str straight swords:

80 str heavy broadsword has 575 attack one-handed.

12 str 80 dex keen broadsword has 539 attack one-handed. All other keen straight swords are worse than keen broadsword.

In addition, str build broadsword is great with cold or blood or poison, even if you don't invest any points into int or arcane.

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The new PVP meta and it’s very lame.

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The ash of war "square off" that is unique to straight swords is the game changer for this weapon class, It does 40 poise/stagger, the same as a fully charged attack of a colossal sword but with the advantage that it has a faster move set. If you are fast enough, you can stagger most bosses on 2-3 attacks. If you dual wield, you have a fast move set that deals good damage

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Many seem to be confused about the viability of Straight Swords vs Katanas. Firstly, SS deal standard damage which is almost always superior to slash. It has a better moveset. The r1 is a wider sweep, the powerstanced L1 (and jump L1) is among the best in the game, the crouch poke, and it has the best guard counter in the game.

Also, the length of a weapon is not the sole determinant of a weapons range. Weapons with the same length can have different ranges, and the distance your character physically moves forward when attacking needs to be taken into account.

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Oh look, another person using dual straightswords. How imaginative.

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If you are a beginner and want to gain confidence in PVP, powerstanced straight swords are one of your best bets:

Pros:
1. Higher dmg than a 2H colossal with 1/3 the weight and virtually unreact-rollable speeds.
2. Minimal setup required, claw talisman + spinning slash is plenty competitive
3. 3-4 shot most opponents, even with mediorce optimization (700+ jump attacks)
4. One of the best jump attacks in game, mainly because the followup L1 comes out faster than any other weapon class and hits hard.
5. Basically very easy to use.
6. Will teach you spacing and trading due to the 1st con.

Cons:
1. shorter range, low poise dmg
2. the jump attack without followup has either less dmg or range than competitors such as ps twinblades, curved swords, and katanas.
3. Mediocre running attacks. Rollcatches require good timing with a step-foward or jump l1 (or crouchpoke).
4. can get overwhelmed when not 1v1.
5. Not much glory in winning, most ps ss play is just l1 spam (jump or not) and aow with occasional crouch poke. That combined with the high dmg/attack speed, and low requirements/punish windows make for a very safe weapon with few compromises. If you want to impress, try landing some well-timed square off’s.
6. Hard to move on to more demanding weapon classes.

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none of the dex based weapons like this have good strength scaling, but so many strength based weapons have better dex scaling than strength. fromsoft you make me angry

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Two-handed straight sword move sets could really use a face lift. I miss the Dark Souls II longsword.

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The skinny on straight swords.

If you want a bleed/arcane build, look elsewhere because there are way better options in at least ten other weapon types. If they someday make a straight sword that has innate bleed, this will change. Strength builds do way better with the colossal weapons. So you're looking at faith, dex or int for straight swords. With a spellblade build being the best way to go.

Broadsword= strongest sword in all infusions except magic due to highest base damage. Lordsworn a close second, but second nonetheless.

Carian Knight's Sword= strongest magic sword, but has a lousy AOW so it's good offhander paired with a magic broadsword.

Noble's Slender Sword= best Dex sword being only 1% weaker than the broadsword with a keen infusion, but having the best range and a good poke.

Coded Sword= good unblockable for a faith build but gimmicky and not as useful against enemies with no shields, which is most of them. Good against undead.

All other straight swords are kind of bad by comparison; all are straight weaker, and many are gimmicky like St. Trina.

Always dual wield straight swords. Takes too long to kill things with one. The most effective way to attack is a double jump slash followed by a double slash after landing. Use the claw talisman and the raptor's black feathers to maximize this.

The best pairing for people who want to take down the game with straight swords is a magic broadsword with Glintblade Phalanx paired with a carian sword offhand using shard of alexander, claw talisman, magic scorpion charm and raptor's black feathers in an INT spellblade build. Use the glintstone kris as a secondary weapon to attack from range when needed (slap glintstone shard on any weapon until you get the kris). You'll never need a staff except for PVP.

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The short version on straight swords.

Broadsword= highest damage in all infusions except magic.

Carian Knight's sword= highest magic damage with a bad AOW. So good offhand for Int characters.

Noble's Slender Sword= very nearly as strong as a keen broadsword but has the best range and a better moveset. So good for a dex build.

Coded Sword= nice unblockable for faith builds paired with a broadsword.

All other straight swords are weak by comparison. Always use two swords because the moveset is good. Killing bosses with one takes forever.

Strongest pairing is glintblade phalanx broadsword with carian offhand on a spellblade build.

If you seek an arcane/bleed build, look to katanas, spears, whips, curved swords, daggers, twinswords, heavy thrusting swords, maces and flails because they are all superior.

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reducing the poise damage on straight swords for pvp was a dumb move...they never did much poise damage to begin with

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really enjoying power stanced straight swords currently. people seem to always run into the l1 combo, and the l1s just look cool, especially the first couple of attacks.
just wish broadsword wasnt 1 per ng cycle unless you are a confessor.

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No permanent bleed on any swords?

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Pls add recurve sword like Manakin Sabre, Machaira, Kopis, Falcata.

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DS1 and DS3 have the glorious Dark Sword. DS2 had the Drakekeepers Sword. I want my thick straight sword back Fromsoft.

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I'm running a 183 level spell blade with 68 intelligence. A magic infused lvl 25 short sword does about 10% damage less per swing than a magic infused broadsword which usually amounts to around 60 points per swing.

I have yet to encounter an enemy that didn't take exactly as many swings to defeat with a short sword as it does with a broadsword. It's 1 lb lighter and I like the poke on the r2. So I run with this bad boy. Rocking glint blade phalanx.

I've probably won at least 80% of my PVP matches with the short sword as well. Glintblade phalanx has more to do with that than the sword, but hacking them down with the short sword after they dodge the phalanx is always fun.

I also ran a double short sword build with the takers cameo and the godskin swaddling cloth for dungeon runs and the HP recovery on two straight swords slashing in succession is quite impressive.

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What's the best early to mid straight sword for someone who accidentally started out as a mage but intends to use faith/arcane?

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I'm glad straight swords are no longer busted, shorter than most weapons and still good because of square off and a great little quick moveset. And L1 isn't as slow or staggered as things like katanas , less punishable (especially as Parry bait) .. you do feel that short range at times though.. 9/10 wep class would r1/l1/ash spam again

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1 SS = sucks
2 SS = godtier

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It's surprising none of them have bleed by default considering most of the other melee categories have 1 or 2

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Feels really bad when you slap the Nagakiba on and realize that it's everything you'd want a SS to be: long, elegant, cool moveset with thrusting R2s. Instead we're stuck with these chode swords whose only redeeming quality is Square Off.

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In the age of the ancient the world was unformed, shrouded by fog. A land of gray R1 spammers, straight swords and everlasting stamina. But then came Elden Ring and with Elden ring came new mechanics. Horse-riding and walking, bonfires and graces and of course, L2 spam and R1 spam. Then, from the R1 they came and founded the souls of the noobs. Irithyll Straight Sword User, first of the R1...Dark Sword Fallen Knight and their children of edginess... Pontiff Knight Curved Sword Guy, the Lord of Whiff Punishes and his faithful Meta Slaves... And the Furtive GUTS Cosplayers, so easily forgotten.... With the strength of R1 they challenged the L2. PKCS Man's mighty roll catches peeled the L2 Spammer's 10 vigor. The Edgelords edge-walked so hard the L2 Spammers slit themselves and died of cringe. Irithyll Straight Sword User unleashed a miasma of R1s and Frostbite. And Rivers of Blood user the nerfed betrayed his own and the L2 spammers were no more...

And thus began the age of R1. But soon, the R1 will fade and only L2 will remain. Even now, noobs see not R1 but only endless L2 spam. And amongst the living are seen the Accursed Ashes of war spam. Yes, indeed. The Ash of War spam brands the noobs. And in this land, L2 spammers are corralled and sent to the north to await the death of Elden Ring pvp.

This.....Is your fate...

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Straight sword category is among my top 3 favorites but I really wish they were longer. It's really sad when I compare them with Uchigatana and some thrusting swords like Estoc and Cleanrot Knight's Sword. I know it's hard to lengthen all of them but there should at least be a straight sword version of Nagakiba.

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good time to go back to the classic sword & shield after all of those exotic multi status one shot build.

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Weapon Range Data is wrong for LordSworn. It has the SAME range as the Longsword as a matter fact.

I would guess User Kaj based the lengths off the positioning of the sheaths against some background. Lordsworn has it's sheath placed lower on the hip, which gives its sheath the illusion of being longer than Longsword's.

Or else, if you compare the actual blades instead against some background, both of them are exactly SAME length. SO yeah, original creator needs to fix this length mistake between the Longsword and the LordSworn.

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No weathered straight sword?

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This weapon class lacks an actual longsword that has a similar range to grossmesser/Shamshir/Uchigatana. Miquellan/Carian Swords are fine as they are but an infusable ss to mirror cs and Katanas would be much appreciated

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Where's the broken straight sword?

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the moment they release a straight sword with bleed it'll be broken.

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r1 r1 r2, r1 r1 r2, r1 r1 r- wait this isn't ds3?

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Honestly swapping to this weapon type after getting burnt out on all the cheesy crap made this feel like a true from game. Wish I had used this on my first playthrough.

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I don't believe the data range. I think the creator has either made human mistakes or has a wrong procedure. When we swing the Warhawk's Talon, the visual effect is shorter than the model and that's not happening with other straight swords I tested. The Warhawk's Talon also feel in combat situation way shorter than what the image shows, and I'm someone who played a lot with the Broadsword so it says a lot.

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Regalia of Eochaid, for a sword that looks like a gladius, weights twice as much as some SWs, mediocre range, it’s dmg is very ughhh disappointing

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Removed row under Max Standard Upgrades that listed Nox Flowing Sword.

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If I switch the table view to Max Standard values, "Nox Flowing Sword" pops up in the list, which is a curved sword.

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miss my snow sword

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I wish some of these weapons had actual unique AOWs instead of the same AOWs we can get for any standard weapon

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Some of y’all’s logic is literally
“No bleed=stinky weapon”