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Location Church of Irith in Liurnia of the Lakes
Role Sorcery Student
Voiced by Mathew Morgan

Thops is an NPC in Elden Ring. Thops is a student at the Academy of Raya Lucaria. He can teach some rudimentary sorceries, provided you can spare a small donation of Runes first.


For a small donation, I'd be happy to share my knowledge.


Thops Location in Elden Ring

Thops can be found at Church of Irith. [Map Link]

  • This NPC will move elsewhere and become unavailable as a merchant if given the second Academy Glintstone Key that you acquire.
  • Map Coordinates for Thops's location after giving him an Academy Glintstone Key. He can be found dead within Raya Lucaria Academy, nearby the Schoolhouse Classroom Site of Grace.
    • To find his body: From the Schoolhouse Classroom Site of Grace, exit the room via the doorway you originally entered it, towards the cavern with the large wheel with rideable platforms. Hug the right wall to find him, a few steps from the doorway.
  • You can offer to give Thops the first Academy Glintstone Key you find, but he will not accept it, since he knows that you need it to access the academy. To continue his quest line, you must give him the Academy Glintstone Key that you can find within Raya Lucaria Academy.
  • This merchant can be fought and slain.
  • Doing his quest will reward you with the Erudition Gesture, which is somewhat useful for solving one magic tower puzzle, and vital for completing another (provided that you also have one of the stone crowns worn by high ranking students of Raya Lucaria Academy).
  • If he is slain, Thops will drop 500 Runes, Thops’s Bell Bearing, and an Academy Glintstone Staff.
  • If found dead at Raya Lucaria Academy, you can acquire Thops's Bell Bearing, an Academy Glintstone Staff, and the sorcery Thops's Barrier from his body.
  • After Thops leaves the Church of Irith, a new Teardrop Scarab can be found near where he once sat. Slaying it will reward the player with the Ash of War: Thops's Barrier


Elden Ring Thops Shop

Item Name Item Type runes currency elden ring wiki guide 18Purchase Value Stock
Glintstone Pebble Sorcery 1000 1
Glintstone Arc Sorcery 1500 1
Starlight Sorcery 2500 1



After speaking with Thops and donating 10 Runes to him, Thops will share that it is his dearest wish to return to Raya Lucaria Academy to continue his studies in glintstone sorcery. Once you have obtained the Academy Glintstone Key found within Raya Lucaria Academy, you can then give it to Thops. Doing so will reward you with the Erudition Gesture. This gesture can be used to solve a couple puzzles found elsewhere (provided that you also have one of the stone crowns worn by high ranking students of Raya Lucaria Academy). Afterwards, Thops will leave for Raya Lucaria Academy.

You can later find him dead, sitting at a desk just outside the room containing the Schoolhouse Classroom Site of Grace within Raya Lucaria Academy. On his body is the sorcery Thops's Barrier, an Academy Glintstone Staff, and Thops's Bell Bearing. You can bring the Bell Bearing to the Twin Maiden Husks at the Roundtable Hold to unlock his inventory for purchase there.

thops deceased.jpg


Dialogue in Elden Ring: Thops


  • "You're Tarnished, aren't you?
    Then, perhaps you could spare some runes?
    Believe it or not, I studied glintstone sorceries at the Academy of Raya Lucaria.
    For a small donation, I'd be happy to share my knowledge."

Donate 10 Runes

  • "Well, bless you, bless you.
    You are a true saint.
    My name is Thops.
    Presuming you're interested, I can teach you sorceries, as promised.
    Only, none of them are particularly great..."

Attempting to give a scroll

  • "Oh, did I not mention?
    I'm a bluntstone. I don't even have a pebble's worth of power.
    So I'm afraid I can't help you decipher the scroll.
    I'm sorry I'm so useless. I truly am."

On Academy Glintstone Key

  • "Why not find yourself a glintstone key?
    Without one, you can't pass through the academy, and you'll never reach the Erdtree Capital.
    And if you find an extra glintstone key, perhaps...
    Once you've tied up all your loose ends - and I can be very patient - would you consider donating it to me?
    I know it. I'm a bluntstone. Nary a hint of talent for sorcery.
    But still, my place is at the academy..."
  • (If handed Academy Glintstone Key)
    "Are you certain? You re willing to give your glintstone key to me? ...My oh my! Thank you, thank you dearly.
    Now I can go back to the academy. To resume my study...of glintstone sorceries, and the very stars".
  • "Thank you dearly. With your blessing, I will depart for the Academy of Raya Lucaria.
    Perhaps, one day, you'll pay me a visit? Who knows, I may be a decorated sorcerer by then! Ha ha!".

Small Talk

  • (If you don't take any Sorcery from him)
    "Apologies, friend.
    I'm afraid my meagre sorceries are no match for your generosity.
    Oh, right.
    I can tell you what I know about this place. That should help a bit.
    You've seen that structure to the north, towering over the water?
    That's the Academy of Raya Lucaria. Where we study glintstone sorceries.
    Only, its doors have been closed for quite some time now.
    After they declared they wouldn't interfere with the Shattering, the academy cast repelling seals on the east gate leading to the Capital and the south gate leading here.
    As you might have guessed, the seals are still active, making entry to the academy impossible without a glintstone key.
    And so I'm stuck here. A fledgling sorcerer, with little chance of acquiring a key.
    When they cast the seals, I'd just popped out, and now I'm uprooted from my place of learning."

  • (If you buy his sorceries)
    For learning my paltry sorceries.
    I never imagined that a bluntstone like myself would have the chance to play teacher.
  • (About Sellen)
    "You've taken an apprenticeship with Sellen?
    Well, that is something.
    Sellen was well known. The most promising sorceress in the history of the academy.
    I followed her at school, but there may as well have been an ocean between us.
    But Sellen was expelled from the academy.
    Accused of unthinkable treatment of certain sorcerers, under the name of the Graven Witch.
    I still don't believe the accusations.
    The illustrious Sellen would never do such things..."


  • Back to learn another? Why, of course.

When attacked

  • (Entering combat) There's no getting through to you, is there.
  • (Upon killing the player) ... Why on earth...

Upon defeat

  • Oh, Raya...Lucaria... The home of my studies...


Elden Ring Thops Notes & Trivia

  • If provoked, Thops wields a Carian Glintstone Staff, which he uses to cast Glintstone Pebble. Interestingly, the staff he uses in combat is different from the staff he drops on death.
  • Thops is voiced by Matthew Morgan, who also voiced Domhnall of Zena in Dark Souls.
  • Thops will not move to the Raya Lucaria Academy if he is made hostile after giving him the Academy Glintstone Key, although he will move if you then seek atonement at the Church of Vows.
  • There are actually two versions of the Academy Glintstone Key. The second one is found within Raya Lucaria Academy itself and is the only one that can be given to Thops to continue his quest.
  • Of the sorceries that Thops can sell, only Starlight is unique to his inventory. Glintstone Pebble and Glintstone Arc can also be purchased from another NPC in the Limgrave region. Note that owning multiple copies of the same spell does not offer any benefits.


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    • Anonymous

      I just tested it, you can't. If you kill this guy by mistake (or on purpose) before you get the gesture, you're locked out of all the erudition doors until NG+.

      • Anonymous

        who wins?
        the remnants of the golden falling star the greater will sent the elden beast/ring to earth on being used as an attack
        ds3 spell parry effect but blue

        • Thops not only studied hard enough to shed his bluntstone status (the academy staff you collect from his corpse states that only those worthy of the academy may acquire them), but he also created a new sorcery that in itself warranted a new house of magic.
          Our boy made it big.

          • Anonymous

            After giving him the second key and seeing how giddy he gets to finally pursue his passion while knowing what's gonna happen to him, I think a little part inside me died.

            RIP Thop. :(

            • Anonymous

              for some reason he refuses to take the key from me, just went back to finish this before fighting the fire ginat in case this locks his quest, but no luck

              • Anonymous

                It seems to me that his passing wasn't a violent one. I'd like to think he either worked himself to the death to fulfill his passion, or gave his life essence to create his spell knowing that one day we will be there to claim it.

                • Anonymous

                  Not so bluntstone after all if in the end he sacrificed his own life to creat something that can deflect all other sorcories and incarnations. Unlike other NPC his questline ending in in death is a good ending for me, someone who was kicked out, shunned and believed itself to be nothing but a waste of sorcerer, finding himself and his worth like that to prove a point is always good. Rest in peace my friend along the great minds of raya lucaria, where you belong.

                  • Anonymous

                    So, Thops managed to create a barrier that blocks both sorceries and incantations, showing that they are both from the same source, an Outer God/Ideology.
                    The atheists at the academy chimped out at the revelation they were the same as the Golden order and removed him.
                    What a brave tarnished, with the same courage as the biblical David, if the Lands Between were a fair place, you would have become no less than a Duke!

                    • Anonymous

                      Rest easy, friend. This world may be cruel and relentless towards your pursuit of your dreams but, you can now rest easy and be much more powerful than those who looked down on you.

                      • Anonymous

                        When you run into a tower with a puzzle that requires a gesture from this guy, whom you killed 200 hours prior not knowing any better :(

                        • Anonymous

                          When asked "about the Flintstone key"

                          "Head to the academy of raya lucaria. Carry on with your journey. Press on with your fight. Don't bother holding yourself up for my sake"

                          I'm not sure exactly why. I already finished Raya Lucaria and am in the mountaintops of the Giants. It may be possible to fail his questline

                          • Anonymous

                            what i wanna know is how long thops was stuck outside the academy... so much lore speculation states that the shattering was a long ass time ago, so either that's not true and it's only been a few years, or thops has been hanging outside for 1000 years or something. Or he's just lying about it, but somehow that it doesn't seem like him...

                            • Anonymous

                              The other mages didn't kill him. He died cramming all night before his dissertation. He realized he needed to get serious, hence the unique ash of war. Poor blighter couldn't take his sudden rush of ambition.

                              • Anonymous

                                they killed thops
                                first solaire
                                then grayrat next was onion bro
                                and now thops awesome
                                well time to slaughter everything

                                • Anonymous

                                  Someone killed him…. Time to kill every living thing in raya lucaria without resting at a site of grace

                                  • Anonymous

                                    I wonder what he thought when he found the Academy in the current state. Zombies and madmen everywhere. How could he study something in such a palce. Or maybe they didn't attack him?

                                    • Anonymous

                                      I cannot find Thops at the church or at the academy. And ideas on where to look for him or how to get him to show up? Is it possible to progress past his quest line leaving it unaccomplished?

                                      • Anonymous

                                        I feel like Joel Haver could do a great skit on how literally every good Fromsoft NPC you try to help ends up dead

                                        • Anonymous

                                          "Glintstone Pebble and Glintstone Arc can also be purchased from another NPC in the Limgrave region" that NPC is Sellen, found in Waypoint Ruins. Not very wiki-like of the author to not write this down.

                                          • Anonymous

                                            Even though Thops died he got a sort of good ending .The description of Thops's Barrier says that "Future generations will learn. They will know the foolishness of the sneering sorcerers who ridiculed this theory, little realizing that it was in fact a discovery worthy of a new conspectus of the academy."

                                            • I sort of get the feeling that the design choice to kill NPCs at the end of their questlines is so that you know for sure that you've completed it in some way. Considering how cryptic these games are, it's kind of a way to show the player that they don't need to invest anymore time into keeping tabs on that NPC's dialog or whereabouts.

                                              • Anonymous

                                                If killed at the church drops bell bearing academy staff and the beetle with tops bell bearing spawns after reloading area

                                                • Anonymous

                                                  His quest is like the framework for most of Elden Ring Quests.

                                                  Step 1: Find a chill npc
                                                  Step 2: Help them out
                                                  Step 3: Find their corpse
                                                  Step 4: Accept that everything bad that ever happened is your fault

                                                  • Anonymous

                                                    He is not the crestfallen. It is stated the crestfallen is The Spirit Tuner. It is said and mimicked from older games with the verbiage.

                                                    • Anonymous

                                                      Genuinely a good lad, unfortunate he met a typical Fromsoft end. However, he did achieve his life's work before passing on.

                                                      • Anonymous

                                                        Same dude who voiced Domhnall huh? I thought I recognized that voice from somewhere. Nice to see him return.

                                                        • Anonymous

                                                          The real need for the erudition gesture is converted fringe tower in liurna. The other can be jumped by climbing the wall. You need a special sorcerer stone helmet and the gesture to break the seal. Tower is north east, liurna, near the liurna frenzied flame village

                                                          • Miyazaki is master when it comes to semi forcing the player to unintentionally lead NPC's to there gruesome end.

                                                            You could of course also leave them be, so they live forever in your game. But even if they die at least they died chasing whatever they wanted in live, death is inevitable for everyone and what is living without having a goal.

                                                            • Anonymous

                                                              Props to the voice actor, when you give him the key you can tell how happy he is
                                                              Goddamn so sad he just dies like that

                                                              • Anonymous

                                                                You know, something tells me he killed himself. Just think about it. He often talks about how bad he is at magic (possibly meaning he could be depressed or have self esteem issues), he only knows basic sorceries, and the staff you pick up from his body is said to be "Permitted only to those who are Recognized Sorcerers". It makes sense when one thinks about it. But there is also the possibility that he accidentally killed himself since he's not well versed in magic as well...

                                                                • Anonymous

                                                                  My boy Thops. I don't know if I want to give him another key on my next playthrough if I know he would die after getting it.

                                                                  • Anonymous

                                                                    His quest is broken for me, which has never happened before. I have beaten Renalla and the manor and through ghost Godfrey. Now he just keeps telling me to continue my journey through the Academy.

                                                                    • Anonymous

                                                                      I feel sorry for him. I want to give him all the scrolls and make him the most learned sorcerer in the game. That said, does his bell bearing include the spells from the scrolls I give him?

                                                                      • Anonymous

                                                                        I offed him on ACCIDENT, i cant believe there are quest npcs exempt from the absolution process. What's the point of having it in the first place?

                                                                        • Anonymous

                                                                          How the hell does someone who knows sorceries die? i can sorta understand how he'd die by the ones with the stone helms but the zombies? how?

                                                                          • Anonymous

                                                                            What a sad end for this gentleman. He was the most kind-hearted person in the entire realm. He just wanted to study and learn.
                                                                            I still wonder... Who killed him ?
                                                                            I mean.... Guys ! What if he actually killed himself ?
                                                                            Just look at the way he's sitting, doesn't look like a fight happened and the only creatures in the area are the undead, and they eat people.
                                                                            Maybe he killed himself when he realized his Raya Lucaria has nothing left but undead people and crazy wizards.
                                                                            Wow, that's just depressing, thank you Dark Souls.

                                                                            • Anonymous

                                                                              "When does a man die? When he is hit by a bullet? No! When he suffers a disease? No! When he ate a soup made out of a poisonous mushroom? No! A man dies when he is forgotten!"

                                                                              Ain't no one gonna forget Thops after his barrier magic becomes known, RIP bro

                                                                              • He has other dialog, I did not give him my key before I met renala and he rejected my key after I beat rennala, he told me it's mine and that he won't take it even though he wants to go back and tells me to use it for myself.

                                                                                • There are dialogs that aren't written in this wiki, he refused to take my key when I selected the option to give him my key (this is after I beat rennala) he told me that it is mine and there for he won't take even though wants to become he believes that bluntstones like him don't deserve it

                                                                                  • Anonymous

                                                                                    "Well you found yourself a demon's soul, have you? I am impressed... yes, indeed I am."

                                                                                    This line is permanently ingrained in my memory since 2009. Thanks, Crestfallen Warrior.

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