Thops

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Location Church of Irith in Liurnia of the Lakes
Role Sorcery Student
Voiced by Mathew Morgan

Thops is an NPC in Elden Ring. Thops is a student at the Academy of Raya Lucaria. He can teach some rudimentary sorceries, provided you can spare a small donation of Runes first.

 

For a small donation, I'd be happy to share my knowledge.

 

Thops Location in Elden Ring

Thops can be found at Church of Irith. [Map Link]

  • This NPC will move elsewhere and become unavailable as a merchant if given the second Academy Glintstone Key that you acquire.
  • Map Coordinates for Thops's location after giving him an Academy Glintstone Key. He can be found dead within Raya Lucaria Academy, nearby the Schoolhouse Classroom Site of Grace.
  • You can offer to give Thops the first Academy Glintstone Key you find, but he will not accept it, since he knows that you need it to access the academy. To continue his quest line, you must give him the Academy Glintstone Key that you can find within Raya Lucaria Academy.
  • This merchant can be fought and slain.
  • Doing his quest will reward you with the Erudition Gesture, which is somewhat useful for solving one magic tower puzzle, and vital for completing another (provided that you also have one of the stone crowns worn by high ranking students of Raya Lucaria Academy).
  • If he is slain, Thops will drop 500 Runes, Thops’s Bell Bearing, and an Academy Glintstone Staff.
  • If found dead at Raya Lucaria Academy, you can acquire Thops's Bell Bearing, an Academy Glintstone Staff, and the sorcery Thops's Barrier from his body.
  • After Thops leaves the Church of Irith, a new Teardrop Scarab can be found near where he once sat. Slaying it will reward the player with the Ash of War: Thops's Barrier

 

Elden Ring Thops Shop

Item Name Item Type runes currency elden ring wiki guide 18Purchase Value Stock
Glintstone Pebble Sorcery 1000 1
Glintstone Arc Sorcery 1500 1
Starlight Sorcery 2500 1

 

THOPS QUESTLINE: HOW TO COMPLETE THOPS' QUEST

After speaking with Thops and donating 10 Runes to him, Thops will share that it is his dearest wish to return to Raya Lucaria Academy to continue his studies in glintstone sorcery. Once you have obtained the Academy Glintstone Key found within Raya Lucaria Academy, you can then give it to Thops. Doing so will reward you with the Erudition Gesture. This gesture can be used to solve a couple puzzles found elsewhere (provided that you also have one of the stone crowns worn by high ranking students of Raya Lucaria Academy). Afterwards, Thops will leave for Raya Lucaria Academy.

You can later find him dead, sitting at a desk just outside the room containing the Schoolhouse Classroom Site of Grace within Raya Lucaria Academy. On his body is the sorcery Thops's Barrier, an Academy Glintstone Staff, and Thops's Bell Bearing. You can bring the Bell Bearing to the Twin Maiden Husks at the Roundtable Hold to unlock his inventory for purchase there.

thops deceased.jpg

 

Dialogue in Elden Ring: Thops

Introduction

  • "You're Tarnished, aren't you?
    Then, perhaps you could spare some runes?
    Believe it or not, I studied glintstone sorceries at the Academy of Raya Lucaria.
    For a small donation, I'd be happy to share my knowledge."

Donate 10 Runes

  • "Well, bless you, bless you.
    You are a true saint.
    My name is Thops.
    Presuming you're interested, I can teach you sorceries, as promised.
    Only, none of them are particularly great..."

Attempting to give a scroll

  • "Oh, did I not mention?
    I'm a bluntstone. I don't even have a pebble's worth of power.
    So I'm afraid I can't help you decipher the scroll.
    I'm sorry I'm so useless. I truly am."

On Academy Glintstone Key

  • "Why not find yourself a glintstone key?
    Without one, you can't pass through the academy, and you'll never reach the Erdtree Capital.
    And if you find an extra glintstone key, perhaps...
    Once you've tied up all your loose ends - and I can be very patient - would you consider donating it to me?
    I know it. I'm a bluntstone. Nary a hint of talent for sorcery.
    But still, my place is at the academy..."
  • (If handed Academy Glintstone Key)
    "Are you certain? You re willing to give your glintstone key to me? ...My oh my! Thank you, thank you dearly.
    Now I can go back to the academy. To resume my study...of glintstone sorceries, and the very stars".
  • "Thank you dearly. With your blessing, I will depart for the Academy of Raya Lucaria.
    Perhaps, one day, you'll pay me a visit? Who knows, I may be a decorated sorcerer by then! Ha ha!".

Small Talk

  • (If you don't take any Sorcery from him)
    "Apologies, friend.
    I'm afraid my meagre sorceries are no match for your generosity.
    Oh, right.
    I can tell you what I know about this place. That should help a bit.
    You've seen that structure to the north, towering over the water?
    That's the Academy of Raya Lucaria. Where we study glintstone sorceries.
    Only, its doors have been closed for quite some time now.
    After they declared they wouldn't interfere with the Shattering, the academy cast repelling seals on the east gate leading to the Capital and the south gate leading here.
    As you might have guessed, the seals are still active, making entry to the academy impossible without a glintstone key.
    And so I'm stuck here. A fledgling sorcerer, with little chance of acquiring a key.
    When they cast the seals, I'd just popped out, and now I'm uprooted from my place of learning."

  • (If you buy his sorceries)
    For learning my paltry sorceries.
    I never imagined that a bluntstone like myself would have the chance to play teacher.
  • (About Sellen)
    "You've taken an apprenticeship with Sellen?
    Well, that is something.
    Sellen was well known. The most promising sorceress in the history of the academy.
    I followed her at school, but there may as well have been an ocean between us.
    But Sellen was expelled from the academy.
    Accused of unthinkable treatment of certain sorcerers, under the name of the Graven Witch.
    I still don't believe the accusations.
    The illustrious Sellen would never do such things..."

Visit

  • Back to learn another? Why, of course.

When attacked

  • (Entering combat) There's no getting through to you, is there.
  • (Upon killing the player) ... Why on earth...

Upon defeat

  • Oh, Raya...Lucaria... The home of my studies...

 

Elden Ring Thops Notes & Trivia

  • If provoked, Thops wields a Carian Glintstone Staff, which he uses to cast Glintstone Pebble. Interestingly, the staff he uses in combat is different from the staff he drops on death.
  • Thops is voiced by Matthew Morgan, who also voiced Domhnall of Zena in Dark Souls.
  • Thops will not move to the Raya Lucaria Academy if he is made hostile after giving him the Academy Glintstone Key, although he will move if you then seek atonement at the Church of Vows.
  • There are actually two versions of the Academy Glintstone Key. The second one is found within Raya Lucaria Academy itself and is the only one that can be given to Thops to continue his quest.
  • Of the sorceries that Thops can sell, only Starlight is unique to his inventory. Glintstone Pebble and Glintstone Arc can also be purchased from another NPC in the Limgrave region. Note that owning multiple copies of the same spell does not offer any benefits.

 

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    • Anonymous

      I feel like Joel Haver could do a great skit on how literally every good Fromsoft NPC you try to help ends up dead

      • Anonymous

        "Glintstone Pebble and Glintstone Arc can also be purchased from another NPC in the Limgrave region" that NPC is Sellen, found in Waypoint Ruins. Not very wiki-like of the author to not write this down.

        • Anonymous

          Even though Thops died he got a sort of good ending .The description of Thops's Barrier says that "Future generations will learn. They will know the foolishness of the sneering sorcerers who ridiculed this theory, little realizing that it was in fact a discovery worthy of a new conspectus of the academy."

          • I sort of get the feeling that the design choice to kill NPCs at the end of their questlines is so that you know for sure that you've completed it in some way. Considering how cryptic these games are, it's kind of a way to show the player that they don't need to invest anymore time into keeping tabs on that NPC's dialog or whereabouts.

            • Anonymous

              If killed at the church drops bell bearing academy staff and the beetle with tops bell bearing spawns after reloading area

              • Anonymous

                His quest is like the framework for most of Elden Ring Quests.

                Step 1: Find a chill npc
                Step 2: Help them out
                Step 3: Find their corpse
                Step 4: Accept that everything bad that ever happened is your fault

                • Anonymous

                  He is not the crestfallen. It is stated the crestfallen is The Spirit Tuner. It is said and mimicked from older games with the verbiage.

                  • Anonymous

                    Genuinely a good lad, unfortunate he met a typical Fromsoft end. However, he did achieve his life's work before passing on.

                    • Anonymous

                      Same dude who voiced Domhnall huh? I thought I recognized that voice from somewhere. Nice to see him return.

                      • Anonymous

                        The real need for the erudition gesture is converted fringe tower in liurna. The other can be jumped by climbing the wall. You need a special sorcerer stone helmet and the gesture to break the seal. Tower is north east, liurna, near the liurna frenzied flame village

                        • Miyazaki is master when it comes to semi forcing the player to unintentionally lead NPC's to there gruesome end.

                          You could of course also leave them be, so they live forever in your game. But even if they die at least they died chasing whatever they wanted in live, death is inevitable for everyone and what is living without having a goal.

                          • Anonymous

                            Props to the voice actor, when you give him the key you can tell how happy he is
                            Goddamn so sad he just dies like that

                            • Anonymous

                              You know, something tells me he killed himself. Just think about it. He often talks about how bad he is at magic (possibly meaning he could be depressed or have self esteem issues), he only knows basic sorceries, and the staff you pick up from his body is said to be "Permitted only to those who are Recognized Sorcerers". It makes sense when one thinks about it. But there is also the possibility that he accidentally killed himself since he's not well versed in magic as well...

                              • Anonymous

                                My boy Thops. I don't know if I want to give him another key on my next playthrough if I know he would die after getting it.

                                • Anonymous

                                  His quest is broken for me, which has never happened before. I have beaten Renalla and the manor and through ghost Godfrey. Now he just keeps telling me to continue my journey through the Academy.

                                  • Anonymous

                                    I feel sorry for him. I want to give him all the scrolls and make him the most learned sorcerer in the game. That said, does his bell bearing include the spells from the scrolls I give him?

                                    • Anonymous

                                      I offed him on ACCIDENT, i cant believe there are quest npcs exempt from the absolution process. What's the point of having it in the first place?

                                      • Anonymous

                                        How the hell does someone who knows sorceries die? i can sorta understand how he'd die by the ones with the stone helms but the zombies? how?

                                        • Anonymous

                                          What a sad end for this gentleman. He was the most kind-hearted person in the entire realm. He just wanted to study and learn.
                                          I still wonder... Who killed him ?
                                          I mean.... Guys ! What if he actually killed himself ?
                                          Just look at the way he's sitting, doesn't look like a fight happened and the only creatures in the area are the undead, and they eat people.
                                          Maybe he killed himself when he realized his Raya Lucaria has nothing left but undead people and crazy wizards.
                                          Wow, that's just depressing, thank you Dark Souls.

                                          • Anonymous

                                            "When does a man die? When he is hit by a bullet? No! When he suffers a disease? No! When he ate a soup made out of a poisonous mushroom? No! A man dies when he is forgotten!"

                                            Ain't no one gonna forget Thops after his barrier magic becomes known, RIP bro

                                            • He has other dialog, I did not give him my key before I met renala and he rejected my key after I beat rennala, he told me it's mine and that he won't take it even though he wants to go back and tells me to use it for myself.

                                              • There are dialogs that aren't written in this wiki, he refused to take my key when I selected the option to give him my key (this is after I beat rennala) he told me that it is mine and there for he won't take even though wants to become he believes that bluntstones like him don't deserve it

                                                • Anonymous

                                                  "Well you found yourself a demon's soul, have you? I am impressed... yes, indeed I am."

                                                  This line is permanently ingrained in my memory since 2009. Thanks, Crestfallen Warrior.

                                                  • Anonymous

                                                    Why does this game kill off every NPC ;-; Thops did not deserve it. Can't even avenge him by finding out who did it!

                                                    • Anonymous

                                                      Why does this game kill off every NPC ;-; Thops did not deserve it. Can't even avenge him by finding out who did it!

                                                      • Anonymous

                                                        Why does this game kill off every NPC ;-; Thops did not deserve it. Can't even avenge him by finding out who did it!

                                                        • Anonymous

                                                          man really spent his whole career making a shittier version of carian retaliation no wonder they kicked his ass out

                                                          • Anonymous

                                                            i killed him at the church without getting his gesture, is that a way to got it somehow? i was reckless back then

                                                            • Anonymous

                                                              Scarab in the church dropped absolutely nothing for me, presumably because I got the Thops Barrier ash of war from the island before the patch.

                                                              • Anonymous

                                                                I found his corpse, to clarify he ends up right before the grace in the outside area, not after the grace.

                                                                • Anonymous

                                                                  I completed Raya Lucaria and then gave him the Glintstone Key, he's no longer at the church but won't turn up at the academy either. There's probably an additional trigger.

                                                                  • Anonymous

                                                                    I'm so tired of NPCs dying at the end of quests it's boring, From Software there are fates worse than death

                                                                    • Anonymous

                                                                      If you try to give him a sorcery scroll he'll claim he's a bluntstone and unable to help you decipher scroll :v

                                                                      • Anonymous

                                                                        I have spoken with him and given him the key. I’ve already completed the Academy. He keeps telling me to go on to academy myself and will not give me the gesture. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

                                                                        • Anonymous

                                                                          I can give scrolls to him btw. Dunno if he might survive if u give him all the scrolls. Not a big time tester, but might be interesting

                                                                          • Anonymous

                                                                            He won't go to Raya Lucaria if you reach a certain point in the game. (probably if you already beat it before encountering him)

                                                                            • Anonymous

                                                                              If Sellen doesn't turn into a ball while in Academy, Thops will survive?

                                                                              Can someone confirm with me that?

                                                                              • Anonymous

                                                                                Killed him and another NPC, used celestial dew at church of vows… neither are coming back now.. I did this after new patch so curious if that’s a new bug or if I’m out of luck on this gesture..?

                                                                                • Anonymous

                                                                                  I will try something different with Thops,after finishing Sellen's quest on her side I will give the key to Thops. See if that keeps him alive and well in the academy after Sellen takes Renala's place

                                                                                  • Anonymous

                                                                                    There is two keys, the first one (found on a chandelier) tell explicitely that anyone trying to use it will be in trouble, the second say that it has not been used.

                                                                                    • Anonymous

                                                                                      Last thing he did before he died was make a spell that deflects sorceries and incantations because every other mage ridiculed him. Lowkey a gigachad imo

                                                                                      • Anonymous

                                                                                        Huh, you can keep holding this spell even after reaching 0 focus points.

                                                                                        The initial cast still needs FP to cast, but it seems you can just keep on casting it as long as you don't get interrupted

                                                                                        • Anonymous

                                                                                          I have him the key, explored the academy and found Rennala, then went back to his original spot and got thops barrier, went back to the school and no Thops body, I can't attone and he doesn't seem to be anywhere. Any ideas?

                                                                                          • Anonymous

                                                                                            "Thops is voiced by Matthew Morgan, who also voiced Domhnall of Zena in Dark Souls 1. As such, his cadence and speech style for Thops' dialogue is very reminiscent of Dohmnall's."

                                                                                            Was immediately reminiscent of DS/DS1 Crestfallen warrior to me.

                                                                                            • Anonymous

                                                                                              I gave him the glinstone key and then killed him to see what happens. On death he said, "Raya...Lucaria...the home of my studies."

                                                                                              • Anonymous

                                                                                                If you read Thop’s Barrier, it basically says woe to the foolish magic users who scoffed at this man’s creation that was deserving of a new line/school of magic…only for Thop to die still thinking he’s pathetic when he finally gets home.

                                                                                                ffs man

                                                                                                • Anonymous

                                                                                                  What happens if I try to hand him a Glinstone Academy Key that I've already used? I'm talking to him now, and the option to give a key is there, but the key's description says "A glintstone key will remember its user, meaning once used it can never be passed on to another. The academy does not welcome the indolent.". I don't want him to try and enter the Academy only to be locked out and then eaten by some monster :(

                                                                                                  • Anonymous

                                                                                                    Dialogue on giving first key "So, you've found yourself a glintstone key. But I certainly can't take it from you. That key belongs to you. By rights, you should use it for yourself. It's true, I wish to return to my place of study. But that's no excuse to impose upon others. Ahh... Is this why bluntstones always finish last?"

                                                                                                    • Anonymous

                                                                                                      I killed him when i first started the game, used celestial dew and it didn't bring him back. I screwed myself out of the spells!

                                                                                                      • Anonymous

                                                                                                        Normally I don't really care about most characters, but this one was actually sad. Dude isn't trying to stab you in the back, nor does he have an ulterior motive, hell he's not even an a-hole. The man just wanted to learn some bloody magic...

                                                                                                        What did he even die by anyway? Were the other sorcerers hostile to him too and we just didn't say anything, or did he die of a sudden heart attack?

                                                                                                        • Anonymous

                                                                                                          Hi, im completed his Quest but he didn't give me the Gesture. is it possible to get the Gesture on another Way?

                                                                                                          • Anonymous

                                                                                                            The only 'walkthroughs' needed is the walkthrough of 'not break any quest/ get all items (max can a run). It might take a while to make such a tut we still learning but can't wait. At least Eldin Ring > DS3 for this. DS3 was HORRIBLY GREAT at breaking all quests. IT was not fun, even if you knew about the breaks, it was no fun redoing runs because x was broke again

                                                                                                            • Anonymous

                                                                                                              What happens if we try to give our first key to Thop? Has anyone tried it? Will he just be a nice guy and say "aw buddy I can't take this cause then you wont be able to go inside, come back when you found a second one"

                                                                                                              • Anonymous

                                                                                                                I'm fcked to get his gesture si rn i'm trying to do some plateforming around the tower to reach the balcony or one of the opened window.
                                                                                                                I want that canon so Bad.

                                                                                                                • Anonymous

                                                                                                                  To find Thops after he moves to the academy, head west out of the Schoolhouse Classroom site of grace, then turn right, and right again. You'll find him dead, sitting at a desk.

                                                                                                                  • Anonymous

                                                                                                                    Fun fact - if you have scrolls available, you can offer them up to Thops but he nopes out saying he is too weak. Long story short - game is directing you to Sellen or Miriel.

                                                                                                                    • Anonymous

                                                                                                                      If I killed Thops, is there no other way to get the erudition gesture ?

                                                                                                                      Which means I can never get the Cannon of Haima ? :(

                                                                                                                      • Anonymous

                                                                                                                        he doesn't let me give him the key.. he tells me to head to the academy..... already beat the moon ho no idea why I can't give him the key.

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