Thops's Barrier (Spell) | Elden Ring Wiki

Just imagine if you could deflect comet azur with this thing

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does this cancel incantations too?

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It states that the cost for "Charging or holding down the button" was reduced to 0.
I've only tried the spell once but I don't remember it being Chargeable or even "hold"-able, it just made my character cast it multiple times and take 7 fp each time.
I was hoping it's downside of 7 fp would be offset by only being a startup cost and it could be held infinitely to stop like Comet azur.

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WOULD be good in PvP if the average mage didn't have 300 ping where the spells desync into you through the barrier.

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My man thops developing a counter to not only all sorceries, but also all incanations. Rennala got silenced, rykard got nullified, astel got canceled... you think a barrier wouldn't work?

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Does anyone know which of the Elden Beast's attacks this works against? I heard it works for the elden stars move, but what about the rain of homing missiles or the four golden sword waves?

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they killed my boi just to keep their magic deflection a secret :(

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i prefer using this to all other forms of spell deflection because i respect thops

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Not exactly a practical spell compared to your other options, but certainly not bad considering that it's actually really effective at what it does.

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Eternal Darkness is slightly more useful in general, they are both eclipsed by Carian and Golden Retaliation.

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I always assumed the other sorcerers killed him to prevent his discovery from getting out. Lodged into shields, it would have revolutionized magic defense to where any soldier could master it. The Carian ash only does damage if you're already high int and isn't useful against incantations. The others don't stop spells. But Thops changed the game. Now literally anyone could shut down spellcasting.

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thops was a hero i just couldn't see it

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If this was just carian retaliation without the swords but was able to parry regular attacks I would use sword and staff constantly and never turn back.

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Who added that bit about 1.07? It's not in the patch notes and it's not true in game.

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Thops spell can literally save you from some of the Elden Beasts attacks
Shame he doesn’t live to see the fruits of his labor

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decent for PvE but the painfully slow startup renders it pretty worthless for PvP

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nobody respected my boy thops

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used thops barrier vs elden beast's elden stars and it reliably ricochets elden stars into the floor of the arena, completely neutralizing it. really really useful for its low cost+requirements and spammability.

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seems to have no effect on Swarm of Flies. Alas, white masks remain a royal pain in the ass to fight

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Does not block frost spells, gravity magic nor lightning strikes from above. Will shoo pyromancies and other sorceries reliably

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So would it be called the Blunthops Conspectus?

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I read this item description differently from others, as it seems to be from Thop's perspective, given the resentful tone. This idea of it being a discovery worthy of a new conspectus might be a delusion of his.

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I wonder what kinda wacky Burger King mask Thops would've invented if he had his own Conspectus...

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as long as you were already casting it, if you hold down the button/key you will keep casting it

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This spell will affect your own projectiles as well, though in rare cases. Using Thop’s Barrier on Glintblades you cast will alter their trajectory, usually pointlessly but it looks cool. It will also push aside (and potentially give slightly more range to) founding rain of stars, oracle bubbles (uselessly pushed upwards), great oracular bubble (also pushed upwards), rykard’s rancor (can be useful to spread out explosions), magic downpour (pushes projectiles forward, maybe useful), and flame of the fell god (still useless). These spells you can cast and follow up with Thop’s Barrier to alter them. The barrier works on other spells, but can’t be cast quick enough to affect the projectiles (any “stars” spell projectiles are too fast for example).

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This seems to work on most energy based attacks even ones Eternal darkness does not, but it has a decently long start up. With max spell speed I wonder if you could cast it fast enough to be immune to spells entirely until you stopped casting.

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Considering the description of the spell. That thops was a failure or bad student, that there are crazy hot heads In the academy… these foolish sneering sorcerers as the description states, it’s possible that they killed him out of jealousy. He had a ingenious break through that counters their magic. Despite his lonely office outside the main building. They didn’t want him to succeed. The key you give him so he can pass has a different description vs the one you use. The one you use is brand new. The one you give him says that the key remembers it’s previous user and the indolent( lazy) are not welcome. Right off the bat, they knew thops should not be there and he was doomed to intense mage bullying and eventual death once he was about to become successful.

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Works against the elden beast's golden barf. Thops the Chadstone created a spell that slaps away a god's attack

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The lore implications of this are awesome
for anyone confused, it's sort of like if you found a way to completely destroy energy, completely ignoring the literal first law of thermodynamics. It's insane that something as powerful as the primeval current and glintstones can just be turned off.

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Did some testing on this after the patch. The duration of the barrier is long enough that holding it IS continuous and would deflect most spells 100% of the time. Unfortunately, the deflection path isn't consistent. As user below mentioned, some pebbles from those sorcerers will sneak through because their trajectory isn't fully redirected. I've fought another mage in PvP who used this spell against my Stars of Ruin and it didn't deflect a single projectile. I've also tested this on Oracle Envoys and it fully shoves all of their bubbles (even the ones that spawn at your location) away. As it currently stands, this spell just isn't worth using over Eternal Darkness for any reason. If they made the initial startup cast almost instant, fixed the deflection issue, and allowed for a quick recovery to combo into another spell, it might have viability over Eternal Darkness.

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idk i really feel like fromsoft needs to make this spell just a continuous channel type of spell instead of continuously bursting

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Compared to the Ash of War version, this spell has:

+ What looks like double the AoE size
+ Lingering AoE
+ More reliable deflection
+ Doesn’t cost as much stamina from repeatedly deflecting spells
+ The ability to move while casting, albeit slowly

- Costs 7 FP per cast, as opposed to 0.
- Slower startup


It’s great for its intended purpose, deflecting spells.

I would have totally used something like this, if the startup were shorter and the cost of casting it were cheaper.

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You did it Thops. They laughed at you, called you an idiot and a failure. It got to you at first, but you brushed it off, got your ass back into the academy and worked your ass off. You died in the process, but you made one of the greatest discovery's in academy history.

And now those jive-ass, stone-masked, burger-king-looking-ass *****es have to live with the fact that the "bluntstone" out-finessed them, and achieved more than they could ever dream of.

Sit down you little punks, and get to learning about Thops the Gigachad.

I'm gonna pour out the finest Flask of Wondrous Physick for my main man Thops. This one's for you pal.

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After briefly testing it against the glintstone sorcerers just inside Raya Lucaria, I found that the duration is indeed increased, but it's still not continuous. I was deflecting most attacks, but some of the glintstone pebbles still snuck through my defense and hit me. I did observe one such pebble hitting me and then changing direction as though it had been "deflected", but that may have just been a fluke. Nonetheless, it's a much better defensive option than it used to be.

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After patch 1.04 it seems there is a strange bug with this spell. As long as you hold the button down you can continuously cast, even after you run out of FP. So as long as you have enough FP to cast it at least once, you can hold the button down to cast until you run out of stamina. Guess that might be useful in situations where you are low on FP and someone is spamming spells at you.

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It got buffed in 1.04 patch. Will be testing it later. The description made it seem as if you can channel the spell active constantly, however you had gaps in the barrier in truth and would be hit. 1.04 patch says it increased the radius and effect duration. So maybe the new duration length truly keeps the barrier up constantly protecting you. Let's try it out.

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If anyone's curious why this is considered such a big discovery, consider that magic in Elden Ring is heavily tied to taking power from celestial forces. Incantations get their energy from divine entities whereas sorceries use glintstone and the Primeval Current for theirs. Both are essentially borrowing energy and turning it into some other form.

This barrier is crazy because it just deletes magic. Repurposing magic isn't unheard of, like Carian Retaliation, but those just turn spells from one form to another. This straight up nullifies them.

The implications of this sorcery are fascinating. Thops literally found a way to turn off the gods, what a lad.

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The way the description says that Thops was worthy of his own Conspectus makes me so sad, because I can genuinely imagine it. I'm picturing an entire group of sorcerers that have spells specifically to counter other sorcerers and negate their spells.

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While it takes too long to cast and you have to select it out of your spell list, it makes you think. It's very bad to use as a spell, but that's because a mere student invented it, then perfected as a parry variant. One of very few ways to deflect spells was born from "just a simple sorcerer"

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Petition to renickname Thops to Thops the Brightstone after he did what so many said he couldn't do, and only failed in making it perfect by keeling over from exhaustion.

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Who else immediately ran straight to the entrance of raya lucaria with the 2 sorcerors to test this spell, only to get glintstone machine gunned to death

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Go back to Church of Irith (where your originally met Thops) to get the Ash of War version of this after you've obtained the Spell.

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defeated Rennala before doing Thops quest, and he did not move from original position to the Academy. Killed him and did not get the Barrier spell.

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Just use Carian retaliation or press the dodge button. This takes way to long to cast to feasibly use it mid-fight. Is useful against some annoying spells like elden stars though.

I tested on the mages in raya lucaria that spam swift glintstone shard. Most of the shots got through despite a me constantly casting.

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6 days to cast, 0.0001 second active. They really hate sorceries ( as usual)

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Dudes,,, you can find a rolling beetle with the spell. It's in an island close to the glintstone meeting place. Be wary though, the beetle can teleport

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Dudes,,, you can find a rolling beetle with the spell. It's in an island close to the glintstone meeting place. Be wary though, the beetle can teleport

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The only working barrier against the god… Indeed a discovery worthy of generations to learn…

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The only spell that reflects the beam and stars of the Elden beast.

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The only spell that reflects the beam and stars of the Elden beast.

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The only spell that reflects the beam and stars of the Final boss.

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The only spell that reflects the beam & stars of Elden Beast.

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I got the spell without sending him to Raya Lucaria, I think if you interact with Sellen and then tell him youre working under her he gives you spell otherwise idk. I bought all his spells when I first met him just to be sure since im doing 100% and told him I met with Sellen. He's alive still and Im debating on giving him the key since I've already got his spell.

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Makes you basically immune to magic if you keep casting. There might be gaps, but I could just walk up to enemy mages while spamming this and not get hit by anything.

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I feels myself scammed, i did his quest, then i killed the scarab then i've got nothing.... sadge

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Thops...you did it mate

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Terrible spell. I'm pretty sure it's a meme about poor thops lol
I did find that putting thops barrier on shields was actually great since it costs 0 fp to use and comes out instantly with the parry but this one is a joke.

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this spell isn't complete and thops was by no means a powerful mage however what the description basically states is that thops could have been a pioneer of a new magical conspectus. So I'm not quite certain but I'm pretty sure this spell is basically a prototype that could have lead to many great things (in the same way there's 4 or so glinstone shard spells) but poor thops wasn't enough to do it alone and there was nothing to carry on development so its likely not a mistake that this spell is so weak.

but just for a moment, imagine erecting a large magical forcefield around you and your summons to protect from a dragon incantation
and that is likely what a spell like this could have been were the mages not so against it.

I hope perhaps in a dlc we may get a spell like that id like mages to get some sort of wide barrier defence

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Ironically enough, the Carian school of magic made the exact same thing except far superior in the form of Carian Retaliation (a shield ash of war that allows you to convert incoming magical projectiles into glintblade seekers). Poor Thops just couldn't catch a break even with his life's work, a bluntstone indeed.

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His fate was a sad one but in the end he completed his life goal, so props to him albeit this spell seems to be a bit iffy.

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This spell is comically bad to the point that I'm convinced it's more about the lore of Thops being incompetent than it is about having the spell in the game.

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Found it on a teleporting teardrop scarab on the first island east of Cuckoo's Evergaol, without killing Thop or even finding any glintstone keys.

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i got this magic from Teardrop Scarab after i killed thops it spawns where thops died in church irith

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As long as you hold down the cast button , this will chain-cast forever, even once you run out of FP. Still not very useful though, especially since it's not too hard for an enemy hit to sneak through and interrupt.

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I was hoping that with this spell i can make something like a magic swordsman character that blocks with magic and fights with sword, but this spell is sadly a joke. It slows your movement and doesn't really block anything half of the time. I wish Thops had more time to work on this spell more...

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Should be noted that you need both Glintstone keys in order to give one to Toph.

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This not a sorcery you idiot. It's an ashes of war that goes on a shield.

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I don't understand why they designed it like this... It would be actually useful if they change it so that it maintains the barrier while you hold the button and continuously consume FP rather than flashing it over and over while you're praying that the attacks will be miraculously blocked.

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erect ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

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Probably better to just use the ash on a shield most of the time but at least our boy finished his thesis before getting killed

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why cant it just create a single barrier that you can channel around you? instead its just a flashing bubble that doesnt block anything half the time

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Much like thops himself, it doesn't stick around enough to be useful

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Well, ****. I already killed him.

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