treespear greatspear weapon elden ring wiki guide 200px
attack power elden ring wiki guide 18Attack
Phy 122
Mag 0
Fire 0
Ligt 0
Holy 79
Crit 100
guarded damage negation elden ring wiki guide 18Guard
Phy 55
Mag 35
Fire 35
Ligt 35
Holy 48
Boost 45
attribute scaling elden ring wiki guide 18Scaling
Str D
Dex D
Fai D
attributes required elden ring wiki guide 18Requires
Str 15
Dex 22
Great Spear Pierce
Sacred Order FP 18
Wgt. 9.5 passive effects elden ring wiki guide 18Passive -

Treespear is a Great Spear in Elden Ring. The Treespear scales primarily with Strength, Faith and Dexterity and is a good Weapon for dealing Holy Damage, but requires a certain level of Dexterity in order to wield it. Its accompanying skill makes it most effective against Those Who Live With Death.


Golden spear with tree-like design. Wielded by knights employed as palace guards in the Royal Capital of Leyndell. Deals holy damage. 

Requiring superior dexterity to wield, this greatspear can perform consecutive thrust attacks despite its larger size.  


Where to Find Treespear in Elden Ring

The Treespear weapon can be found at the following location:

  • Found on a Carriage at the edge of the collapsed bridge. From Liurnia Highway South Site of Grace, follow the road southeast. [Elden Ring Map here]


Elden Ring Treespear Notes & Tips

  • Weapon SkillSacred Order
  • This weapon cannot be infused with Ashes of War but can be buffed with Magic and Consumables
  • Treespear can be upgraded by using Smithing Stones
  • This weapon has a unique R2 chain. The first R2 is a heavy forward thrust (similar to the Lance R2), and the second is a downward diagonal slash starting from your left side. Charging these attacks will cause them to change into a two hit combo with the same basic pattern, this double tap feature excels at breaking enemy posture
  • Good for Dex/Faith Builds and easy to get early. It plays like a Str/Faith weapon, except you get to focus dex for quicker cast times. Deals a ton of posture damage.
  • Can be enchanted with weapon buffs, which makes it interesting for specific builds.
    • On Faith builds, one can double up on the Faith Scaling with Bloodflame Blade, Electrify Armament or Order's Blade. If cast using a high scaling seal, such as the Erdtree Seal at 80+ Faith, these will outperform this weapons Ash of War.
    • On an Int/Faith hybrid build it can be enchanted with Scholar's Armament to recieve the Int scaling of the staff it was enchanted with.
    • Keep in mind when buffing this weapon that only the Faith or Int portion of a catalyst's scaling will be considered when applying the buff.
    • Using this weapons Ash of War will remove any weapon buffs active.
  • Sell Value:  er runes 13 100 Runes
  • NOTE: As of Patch 1.09, the scaling values of this weapon were changed. Please refer to the Upgrades Table of this weapon below.
  • Other notes and player tips go here


Moveset & Videos in Elden Ring for Treespear


Lightning Lancer Written Guide


Lightning Dragoon Written Guide



Great Spears Breakdown




Treespear PvP Poise Damage Values in Elden Ring

Patch 1.10 adjusted PVP Poise Damage of all Weapons including some Spells and Incantations. Please take note that these adjustments are exclusive to PVP.

One-Handed Attacks

  • 1H R1 (1/2/3 Attacks): 193.325/96.662/104.5
  • 1H R2 (1/2 Attacks): 313.5/313.5
  • 1H Charged R2 (1/2 Attacks): 940.5/940.5
  • 1H R1 Jumping: 193.325
  • 1h R2 Jumping: 627

Two-Handed Attacks

  • 2H R1 (1/2/3 Attacks): 250.8/125.4/135.85
  • 2H R2 (1/2 Attacks): 352.687/352.687
  • 2H Charged R2 (1/2 Attacks): 1050.224/1050.224
  • 2H R1 Jumping: 193.325
  • 2h R2 Jumping: 689.7


Treespear Upgrades in Elden Ring

Please see the Upgrades page to understand the weapon bolstering process.

Requires regular reinforcement with Smithing Stone [1]Smithing Stone [2]Smithing Stone [3]Smithing Stone [4]Smithing Stone [5]Smithing Stone [6]Smithing Stone [7]Smithing Stone [8], and Ancient Dragon Smithing Stone.

This upgrade can be enchanted with Magic or boosted with Consumables.

  Attack Power Stat Scaling Passive Effects Damage Reduction (%)
Treespear Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Sta Str Dex Int Fai Arc Any Phy Mag Fir Lit Hol Bst Rst
Standard 122 - - - 79 61 D D - D - - 55 35 35 35 48 45 21
Standard +1 129 - - - 83 63 D D - D - - 55 35 35 35 48 45.45 21
Standard +2 136 - - - 88 65 D D - D - - 55 35 35 35 48 45.9 21
Standard +3 143 - - - 92 68 D D - D - - 55 35 35 35 48 46.35 21
Standard +4 150 - - - 97 70 D D - D - - 55 35 35 35 48 46.8 21
Standard +5 157 - - - 101 73 D D - D - - 55 35 35 35 48 47.25 21
Standard +6 164 - - - 106 75 D D - D - - 55 35 35 35 48 47.7 21
Standard +7 171 - - - 111 78 D D - D - - 55 35 35 35 48 48.15 21
Standard +8 178 - - - 115 80 D D - D - - 55 35 35 35 48 48.6 21
Standard +9 185 - - - 120 82 D D - D - - 55 35 35 35 48 49.05 21
Standard +10 192 - - - 124 85 D D - D - - 55 35 35 35 48 49.5 21
Standard +11 199 - - - 129 87 D D - D - - 55 35 35 35 48 49.95 21
Standard +12 206 - - - 133 90 D D - D - - 55 35 35 35 48 50.4 21
Standard +13 213 - - - 138 92 D D - D - - 55 35 35 35 48 50.85 21
Standard +14 221 - - - 143 95 D D - D - - 55 35 35 35 48 51.3 21
Standard +15 228 - - - 147 97 D D - D - - 55 35 35 35 48 51.75 21
Standard +16 235 - - - 152 100 D D - D - - 55 35 35 35 48 52.2 21
Standard +17 242 - - - 156 102 D D - D - - 55 35 35 35 48 52.2 21
Standard +18 249 - - - 161 104 D D - D - - 55 35 35 35 48 52.65 21
Standard +19 256 - - - 166 107 D C - D - - 55 35 35 35 48 52.65 21
Standard +20 263 - - - 170 109 D C - D - - 55 35 35 35 48 53.1 21
Standard +21 270 - - - 175 112 D C - D - - 55 35 35 35 48 53.1 21
Standard +22 277 - - - 179 114 D C - D - - 55 35 35 35 48 53.1 21
Standard +23 284 - - - 184 117 D C - D - - 55 35 35 35 48 53.55 21
Standard +24 291 - - - 188 119 D C - D - - 55 35 35 35 48 53.55 21
Standard +25 298 - - - 193 122 D C - D - - 55 35 35 35 48 54 21



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    • Anonymous

      Yeah... i don't buy the whole "holy drops off late game" considering this weapon allowed me to beat Malenia in less than 5 minutes.

      • Anonymous

        Any suggestion for fashion to pair with this?Preferably something light. I had a few ideas, but I'm just not particularly happy with them.

        • Anonymous

          For a twist on a Margitt build: Erdtree Dagger with Parry on left, backup Erdtree Dagger with flame art for mad damage, Treespear with cold grease on right. Now you can Parry, proc Frost, and reset with Fire, all while fighting at different ranges. Replace Parry with Sacred Blade and you get more range/damage options.

          • Anonymous

            "Wielded by knights employed as palace guards in the Royal Capital of Leyndell." Yet we don't see a single knight carrying one of these, what gives?

            • Anonymous

              It's so weird that it cannot equip ashes of war and yet has to be upgraded using regular smithing stones. Are there any other examples of this?

              • Anonymous

                Actually not that bad, I’m at ng0 with this, jellyfish shield, sacred scorpion, holy tear and order blade and it hits real good, Greatshield talisman, old lord talisman, scorpion and I alternate between erdtree favor +2 and turtle talisman, the shield is disappointing, especially because unlike order blade and golden vow its buff cannot be extended but eh, dex/faith is already spread out as it is.

                • Anonymous

                  This is a ‘sleeper hit’ of a weapon. If it had a B scaling it would be too good. A 3-hit running R2 and a poise-breaking charged R2? Whether you are a Strength, Dexterity, Quality or part-time Faith user, do not sleep on this Great Spear.

                  • Anonymous

                    the best part of this weapon is that its not infusable, it gives the weapon personality and turns it into a sacred nuke. Yall can cry about it

                    • Anonymous

                      does this weapon's skill also work on non buffable weapons? if you swap it for a non buffable weapon after using the skill, the yellow glow stays

                      • Anonymous

                        This with Heavy, and fingerprint/ant shield str+ faith erdtree seal, enough dex to equip and you’re off to be a Roman Crusader.
                        For some reasons, this spear has a base holy damage, and it can be buffed with Order’s Blade, it’s probably my most liked defensive playstyle in this game, safety and good damage, you can use a heavy thrusting sword with an electric buff if you’re facing someone with a lot of holy resist, or a broadsword, keeping with the theme.

                        • Anonymous

                          I'll never understand why some weapons can't get their AoW's changed but still require regular Smithing Stones.

                          • For those of you lamenting at the unfavorable weapon skill, lament not. Sacred Order is a global damage buff, not just a buff to a specific weapon's holy damage. Additionally, it persists even after swapping to a different weapon, meaning that you can cast it from the off-hand, re-equip it into your main-hand and cast it again (it stacks with itself and everything else btw).

                            Goes really REALLY hard with a Sacred Lance or Siluria's Spear

                            • Anonymous

                              There are 2 way you can go about building around this weapon. A primarily dex build which works quite well having higher physical damage to take advantage of spear talisman and counter hits and does better against the end game bosses with high holy resist. Also the better option if trying to powerstance 2 of them.

                              The other way to build this is primarily faith. The damage is initially worse but you can use order's blade to buff it. This can actually result in higher ar than the dex focused build. The downside is that its more holy damage which is worse at taking advantage of counter hits and has more trouble against high holy resist bosses. Its also worse at powerstancing since you can only buff one of the weapons.

                              • Anonymous

                                Every time Elden Ring gets a really cool bug, people are complaining nonstop to take it out. It happened with crouch poke flails and it'll end up being this.
                                Enjoy it while you can, I guess.

                                • Anonymous

                                  Isn't it bugged now? Buff from WA stays when you switch your weapon. It is working even with 'unbuffable' stuff, adding some DMG. It also give some weapons golden aura, which is longer than weapons itself, try it on flails and ss.

                                  • Anonymous

                                    The main thing this weapon has going for itself (beyond being a greatspear of course) is that it scales with Faith, but can still be buffed. Since it deals innate Holy damage, you can infuse it with Order's Blade to double dip in Faith scaling without splitting your damage more than it already is. It's great.

                                    Unfortunately, the Ash on this weapon CANNOT be changed and the Ash also applies an inferior weapon buff that overwrites Order's Blade. I would have preffered a Holy Spectral Lance like Morgott uses (He summons a glowing Treespear to throw) instead of a generic Ash of War that can't be changed. Sad.

                                    • Anonymous

                                      I wish the Ash of War was Sacred Phalanx or a Holy Version of that Occult Spear throw that Morgott uses.

                                      It's lame when Somber weapons have generic Ashes of War that can't be changed.

                                      • Anonymous

                                        Love the moveset of this weapon in PvE

                                        Only drawback is the requirements which makes it a bit awkward to use in very early game, unless you're fine with playing low vigor for a bit

                                        • Anonymous

                                          Stay with me here -- this is some strange combination of the Serpent-Hunter and the Erdsteel Dagger. Like the Serpent-Hunter, the Treespear is an uninfusable great spear with a poor ash of war, and like the Erdsteel Dagger it comes with innate scaling in Faith and the ability to be buffed, something it shares with the Clayman's Harpoon (but scaling with Intelligence) and new to patch 1.09 the Great Club. This makes the Treespear an extremely unusual weapon. Despite having mediocre scaling in Faith, the ability to be buffed means you can both get decent damage from pumping 80 Faith just on its own and also add ~250 holy or lightning damage using weapon buff spells. A Treespear build is probably the best weapon buffs have felt to me since DS2 -- maybe even DS1 with Crystal Magic Weapon.

                                          • Anonymous

                                            The charged R2 on this is horrifying in PvP. I'm pretty sure this is the only greatspear that has it and it's not a super popular weapon regardless, so people will often getup roll with the wrong timing. At worst, you'll probably just hit them with the second part of the attack; at best, you time it right and they roll right into both attacks of a charged R2, which is tons of damage.

                                            • Anonymous

                                              Tree spear should’ve had shared order. Sacred order buffs spell damage 10% for sacred builds, which is its niche use. Tree spear is a dex weapon with requirements too high for most casters. And a caster would be using orders blade. Shared Order is better than sacred order, doing more damage to undead, buffing spell damage the same, buffing allies dmg against undead and is compatible with Orders blade. Even golden vow ash would’ve been better than sacred order, just like golden halberd.

                                              • Anonymous

                                                I know this weapon scales best with Dexterity, but resist the temptation to make a hybrid Dex/Faith build, and instead just go min stats in Str and Dex to weild it, and put 80 points into Faith. Why? Because buffing this with Order's Blade at 80 Faith and using the Erdtree Seal gives you a much higher AR than any combination of Dex or Faith you can come up with if you are using the same stat pool for your character.

                                                The Ash of War on this sucks compared to Order's Blade, I fully agree here. It is nowhere as good. How do you get past that? Easy - Don't use it. Put your Erdtree Seal in your left hand to buff the Treespear in your right. Then put a shield in the second left slot. Now you can use a good shield Ash of War like Holy Ground, Barricade Shield or Golden Parry instead, and not have to worry about trying to use your main hand ash by holding it in both hands to get it to go off, then switching back so you can use your shield ash again.

                                                Enemy is resistant to Holy, and it is causing your damage to fall off a cliff? Just use the entire bank of spells you have available to you to burn/lightning/black flame/poison/rot them down. Put a related seal in your offhand to your Erdtree Seal, and get max damage benefit.

                                                At 15 Str, 22 Dex and 80 Faith, your AR at +25 for this weapon will be 674. A +10 Erdtree Seal has an incantation scaling of 353.7 at 80 faith. Multiplied by 0.75 for the Order's Blade buff gives an AR boost of 265.275. Add this to your base AR and by buffing with Order's Blade alone you get a total AR of 939.275. And that's before Golden Vow and Flame Grant Me Strength. That is monstrous for a melee build by itself, but combine that with the fact that this spear does great poise damage, has great double-hit combo's on the charged heavy, a great reach and can be used to do shield pokes, and then all the benefits from having 80 faith to cast incantations with, and there should be no reason why you can't completely dominate the game from very early on.

                                                The only drawback to this build is that an infuseable shield, treespear and seal (use Godslayer, it's better than Finger before 69 faith) all draw on regular smithing stones to level up, which can lead to a bit of a pinch, especially when you hit the need for smithing stone 6's. I'd upgrade Godslayer Seal highest as it gives more back via Incantation Scaling for both buffs and direct attacks, then Treespear and finally your shield. Once you hit 69 Faith you should have all 9 if not 10 Somber Smithing Stones ready to go and can get your Erdtree Seal up to max pretty much immediately.

                                                This weapon is slept on because its Ash of War kind of sucks (it will boost your incantations though, which is great if you want to use 2 seals at once) compared to Order's Blade. But with all the bonuses it gives, who cares? Shield ashes when you need it, incantations otherwise, all while keeping your main hand weapon out if you aren't dual running seals. A brilliant weapon, so easy to get, and the stat requirements aren't too harsh. All-round excellent.

                                                • Anonymous

                                                  This is always going to be my favorite weapon in the game. I love the moveset, reach, poise damage; how it looks; the fact that it was in the reveal trailer and that Morgott throws spectral versions of it at you; God its been fun using this thing

                                                  • Anonymous

                                                    I’ve paired this with Vyke’s War Spear. Dex+Fth knot physick, Electrify armament+Flame Grant Me Strength; everything has been turning to dust. Undead evaporate just by looking at them. It’s great.

                                                    • Anonymous

                                                      If you combo r2 two times you can stun just about anyone with a full charge attack then a quick r2 and finish with a r1 critical hit

                                                      • Anonymous

                                                        Assuming I was using orders blade with pure fth and minimum stats for tree spear... what are some keen weapons also good with Orders blade that aren’t out performed by sacred affinity?

                                                        • I wonder, are there any equivalents for the other elemental damage types? E.g. a weapon with inate fire damage that can be buffed with bloodflame blade, or magic with magic sword or lightning with electric armament?

                                                          • Anonymous

                                                            This weapons Ash really needs a buff as in it's current form its completely outperformed by buffs like Order's blade, perhaps something like braggarts roar where a body buff and a weapon buff come from the AoW. Like if this gave 15 flat or a 25% poise buff as well as its weapon buff it could be viable and due to it having split damage that focuses on the holy side it doesn't synergize too heavily with counter attacks for the poise to be overpowered.

                                                            • Anonymous

                                                              i WISH this thing could have its ash changed, i love the move set, but since the weapon skill is a simple buff, the move set becomes limited, unless you dont care much for versatility like i do, then its fine, plus the heavy attacks are super duper fun anyway.

                                                              • Anonymous

                                                                Does anyone know why this spear is upgraded using smithing stones NOT somber, can be buffed by poison / electrify armament or blood / black flame blade AND buffed with grease but has a skill locked onto it ? Which also happens to be a skill no f**ker would ever choose for this spear outside of players that might want to RP as a golden order zealot / hunter.
                                                                But it's highly effective against "those who live in death" you say ? So what ? numerically undead are a very small enemy type compared to guards, foot soldiers there are even more wandering idiots and marionettes than skeletons and deathbirds. If you take the fanboy hat off and think about it objectively this spear is just one in a pretty long list of bad / really bad design decisions and f**k ups that Elden ring is riddled with. It highlights From Software was in over its head on an open world game of this complexity.

                                                                • Anonymous

                                                                  My favorite weapon in the game used it on my first playthrough and I still use it today. Favorite weapon in these games are spears and favorite build is dex/faith, and this is absolutely perfect.

                                                                  And for those who are not big fans of the ash of war, just remember it's a flat 10% boost to ALL your damage not just the Treespear itself. Plus it stacks with most buffs besides weapons buffs (obviously lmao) and lasts a minute now. Pretty insane weapon tbh

                                                                  • Anonymous

                                                                    I love this thing, used it on my first playthrough, using it as my regular weapon even now. Would be nice if it's AOW could be changed but honestly the moveset is so much fun even without that. Easily the coolest great spear and my favorite weapon of the game fr

                                                                    • Anonymous

                                                                      This just might be my new favorite weapon.
                                                                      1,520 AR at RL125.
                                                                      Doing 4k damaged with a single charged attack.

                                                                      • Anonymous

                                                                        it really sucks that you can't change the ash of war on this. if you could slap on a lightning ash, it'd be a perfect Great Value Ornsteins Spear

                                                                        • Anonymous

                                                                          If you have two of these using the weapon art on one applies an equal damage buff to the other so Take Two of these cast golden vow two hand the left one use the ash of war one hand use main hand ash of war and with 60 dex sacred scorpion charm and base faith gets a little over 1000 ar on each it's still split damage so take the number with a grain of salt but it is still so good.

                                                                          • With the right investment, Order Blade + Holy Scorpion Charm + Holy Crystal Tear will give this so much holy damage that it reaches the breakpoint where instead of split damage being a detriment, it is a linear upgrade in damage. That makes this weapon perform way better than other split damage weapons. Also with order blade on you should smack a skeleton just to see how insane the damage gets.

                                                                            • Anonymous

                                                                              The fact that you cant infuse this but can infuse the claymans harpoon, which is another split damage weapon with a generic ash of war upgraded with normal smithing stones is a travesty.

                                                                              • Anonymous

                                                                                honestly so mad you can't use this together with the Erdtree Greatshield without sacrificing a lot of damage or being way too high level.

                                                                                • Anonymous

                                                                                  Lore-wise, would this be considered an Erdtree Worship (Pure Faith) weapon or a Fundamentalist (supposed to be Int/Faith) weapon?

                                                                                  • Anonymous

                                                                                    This weapon could really use a scaling buff or being changed into infusable.
                                                                                    It's scaling at max is comparable to standard weapons at +25

                                                                                    • This seems to be the perfect pairing for Vyke's spear? Strongish dexterity scaling (looks like a high C at max level), along with a little faith scaling. The faith scaling must be really low, though, to never reach even lower C level scaling.
                                                                                      I think choosing between this and Lance for a Vyke's combo, I would go with Lance. I could put the Lance as a dexterity scaling weapon with the item in Stormveil early. You would get no faith scaling, until you get that whetblade later.

                                                                                      • Anonymous

                                                                                        this weapon actually facilitates like 700 damage per swing if you infuse it with ash of war + keen damage. it makes it much more tolerable in pvp and allows it to backstab combo. no matter how you use the weapon, orders blade is a absolute win since it increases the elemental damage ever further and gets the AR above 800.

                                                                                        Also, if you dual wield two of these (in ng+) you could use powerstance and make even more runes that way. But you have to be careful when the buff runs out to replenish it or else your a sitting duck. overall i've relied on this weapon countless times in boss fights and especially against the grafted scion its good because its weak against fire and you can combo with catch flame.

                                                                                        The moveset is unique as well and reminds me a lot of the guardian swordspear moveset with sweeping swings and nosedives. easy to rollcatch in pvp or to give piercing damage +bleeding which can counter rivers of blood if you time it right.

                                                                                        scholars armanent is compatible and buffs it even more depending on you intelligence level and if you have a sacred seal. my only gripe with the weapon is the fact that it scales best with dexterity, but i think most people who want to use this are primary faith builds

                                                                                        • Anonymous

                                                                                          Perfectly fills a useful niche as an anti-undead backup weapon on my spear and shield build. Not having to double-tap zombies is awesome.

                                                                                          • Anonymous

                                                                                            Orders blade, even with low fth is superior to to running dex for damage on this. I coinvaded with someone using exact same tree sentinel armor/shield set up as me. But they were doing 300 dmg to our opponents while I was scoring 650 dmg with my 40 fth, 13 int, 30 str and 22 dex. And I get barrier of gold/regen. My co invader was prolly 30 str 50 dex and wasted his fth points to use the weapon. His weapon buff kept expiring fast too, rendering it a liability to rebuff for such a small dmg bonus. Orders blade takes the same cast time but is actually worth it on Treespear and lasts way longer.

                                                                                            • Anonymous

                                                                                              Interestingly, there's actually data in the game for this weapon to be infusable.

                                                                                              There are entries for all the different infusion types for this weapon. The only thing missing, is a change of the "Ash of War type" from "Prevent Change" to "Allow Change"

                                                                                              It's quite possible that this weapon was intended to be infusable, much like the Clayman's Harpoon which has an exotic damage type but can still be infused. I wonder if they changed their mind last minute or if this was simply an oversight and they forgot to set it to be changable.

                                                                                              • Anonymous

                                                                                                I still don't understand what consumables are meant when it says a weapon can or can't be boosted by consumables. Is it only the grease that is applied directly onto the weapon or does it mean this weapon will or wont benefit from exalted flesh? I would have thought exalted flesh buffs the player attack and damage output for a short while not the individual weapon, but like someone else already said the rules of what can or can't be buffed seems pretty arbitrary.

                                                                                                • Whether any given split damage weapon can or can’t be buffed seems so arbitrary and inconsistent. I really would like to know the logic that made FromSoft say “no buffing allowed on faith scaling melee weapons… except you Treespear. You’re cool.”

                                                                                                  • Anonymous

                                                                                                    Yeah the weapon art is bad but the stagger potential makes up for it, one of the best choices for a Faith/Dex build

                                                                                                    • Anonymous

                                                                                                      I see a lot of messages about something being hidden around the broken bridge where you find this weapon, any truth to the messages?

                                                                                                      • Anonymous

                                                                                                        Good for Dex/faith builds and easy to get early. It plays like a Str/faith weapon, except you get to focus dex for quicker cast times. Deals a ton of posture damage. Charged R2 does a weak hit followed by a strong hit for big damage. Good weapon, just wish I could change the Art of War

                                                                                                        • Anonymous

                                                                                                          Why does this use regular smithing stones if you can change the ash of war? What does using regular smithing stones have to do with it being buffable but not being able to change ash of war. I thought the reason why we need a lot of regular smithing stones to upgrade stuff is to balance the fact that you can change the AoW. Don't get me wrong, I love the moveset but the AoW and the ability to buff it is useless to me since I never buff and imo is not worth it at all.

                                                                                                          • Anonymous

                                                                                                            I treat this like golden halberd. Use it raw with base stats and focus on faith/vigor. Also, it’s worth investing in the 13 int even if that means lower faith. Orders blade is disgustingly powerful on this.

                                                                                                            • Anonymous

                                                                                                              Imagine if the saint bident of ds3 had innate lightning damage and could still be buffed. Yes, this is the spiritual successor to the st Bident, 13 int required to holy buff however this is fine. You have to be very intelligent to use this anyways amirite? OH one more thing. Order blade spell scales with only fth no matter what seal you use... so 13 int 50 fth and Edtree seal is the way to go. Don’t worry about dex/str if you plan on buffing with spells.

                                                                                                              • Anonymous

                                                                                                                Treespear is the Lothric Knight Greatsword of Elden Ring.

                                                                                                                With 99/99/99 in strength/dex/faith, Treespear +25 has the following Attack Rating values:

                                                                                                                One handed:
                                                                                                                298 + 295 physical damage
                                                                                                                193 + 104 holy damage
                                                                                                                (892 AR combined)

                                                                                                                Two handed:
                                                                                                                298 + 310 physical damage
                                                                                                                193 + 104 holy damage
                                                                                                                (907 AR combined)

                                                                                                                However, I also have 16 intelligence, which allows me to use Order's Blade incantation. I have the Erdtree Seal +10, which has 367 incant scaling at 99 faith. So, when I buff the weapon, I get:

                                                                                                                Two handed:
                                                                                                                298 + 310 physical damage
                                                                                                                193 + 379 holy damage
                                                                                                                (1183 AR combined)

                                                                                                                This means Order's Blade gave an additional 275 holy damage. Now, I know there are other seals which scale with more stats, thus leading to a higher incant scaling number. However, based on what I've read online, Order's Blade incantation only cares about the Faith portion of your incant scaling. So I believe this is the best damage you can get out of the buff. Still, I would have liked to test it, I don't have a character who is high level enough for it.

                                                                                                                Bear in mind that a lot of the endgame bosses are resistant to holy damage, so this spear is probably better suited in PvP against other players.

                                                                                                                Now, let's compare this to Dark Souls 3's Lothric Knight Greatsword.

                                                                                                                According to's DS3 planner, with 99/99/99/99 in strength/dex/faith/hollow, a Hollow infused LKGS +10 gets the following AR:

                                                                                                                599 physical damage
                                                                                                                165 lightning damage
                                                                                                                (764 AR combined)

                                                                                                                Also, Yorshka's Chime +10 is the catalyst with the highest Spell Buff at 263. With the Lightning Blade miracle, the damage numbers become:

                                                                                                                599 physical damage
                                                                                                                415 lightning damage
                                                                                                                (1014 AR combined)

                                                                                                                In conclusion, even though LKGS has a lower AR value compared to Treespear, I would say LKGS is a stronger weapon. Because it's harder to get insane damage numbers in DS3 as opposed to Elden Ring.

                                                                                                                • Anonymous

                                                                                                                  If you only use this for style or the unique charge attack, feel free to ignore me.

                                                                                                                  TLDR Order's blade is treespear's best buff and never use the innate ash of war if you like big damage

                                                                                                                  If you care about damage even a little bit DO NOT USE lightning armament. Those suggesting it don't undertand how defense works in elden ring. Lightning armament is almost always worse than order's blade for treespear.

                                                                                                                  It already has holy damage, so you're better off adding more instead of an additional element.

                                                                                                                  Defense reduces damage once for every element on the weapon. This is the reason why higher AR elemental weapons sometimes deal less damage than lower AR pure physical weapons.

                                                                                                                  If you add lightning instead of holy, your damage is reduced 3 times insead of only 2.

                                                                                                                  Unless you fight something extremely resistant against holy, but weak against lightning, order's blade is the better buff.

                                                                                                                  Sacred oath overwrites weapon buffs, so ignore the innate ash of war unless you really want the 10% holy damage for your offhand or consumables. If you only need to buff treespear, order's blade or even holy grease are better.

                                                                                                                  • Anonymous

                                                                                                                    I love this weapon, first one to upgrade to +25. Recently I've done some testing and I will share it here:
                                                                                                                    type --- dmg --- time
                                                                                                                    light --- 729 --- 1s
                                                                                                                    3x light --- 2272 --- 3.5 s
                                                                                                                    heavy --- 961 --- 1.2s
                                                                                                                    2x heavy --- 1922 --- 2.88 s
                                                                                                                    charge h --- 1662 --- 2 s
                                                                                                                    2 chrge h --- 3324 --- 4s

                                                                                                                    When buffed with its Ash of War, gives constant 10% dmg increase.
                                                                                                                    For best results, you can use electrify weapon incantation, which at this time was giving me 18% dmg increase
                                                                                                                    However, I have noticed that heavy attacks get buffed slightly less, at 14% than light attacks.. Not the best

                                                                                                                    From the data, you can see that charged heavy attacks are basically the most efficient per time it takes to execute.

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