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?¿?¿?¿?¿Why can this be buffed but Golden Halberd can't?¿?¿?¿?¿ They are both somber weapons, both do split physical/holy damage, both have a similar Ash of War, hell you could argue Golden Halberd has an even less unique one.

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holy damage... straight into the trash it goes

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So... arguments for this instead of messmer soldier spear(apart from drop rates)?

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My favorite weapon in the game

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I'd like to put Golden Land on this thing.

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just use order's blade with a high faith scaling seal, it'll add way more holy damage than using the skill.

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Something i noticed fighting Morgott for the 2nd time in my life today... He's using this one as one of his summonable weapons. Huh.

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Should be infusable with ashes of war, this thing would be sick as hell with aspect of the crucible: wings

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Based on its description, it almost sounds like it was meant to be wielded by cut palace guard enemies. I don't know if there's any leftover enemy data to prove this, but as far as I know, there is no palace guard in Leyndell

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Treespear

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Best great spear. Move over messmers. Spear of the chads is here once again.

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Beat PCR with this and order's blade on my dex/faith build, since you don't use the AoW you can use a shield to parry instead which works amazing√

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This, or Siluria's Tree: Which is the better Faith Greatspear?
It seems the Treespear is a Dex-Faith weapon that has lower stat requirements, higher weapon damage (that is majority physical), and can be buffed.
On the other hand, Siluria's Tree is a St-Faith weapon that has a chargable ranged AoW, a bit more weapon range, and a swipe for an R2. Thoughts?

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Would be cool If this spear was used by the Knights themselves instead of literal gardeners

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Better Messmer soldier's spear tbh, it's drippy as hell, i do not care.

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apply rot grease for a Radahn killer

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My beloved

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This thing absolutely dumpsters Commander Gaius if you slap some golden grease on it.

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why the **** do you level this up with normal smithing stones you cant change it ash

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I’ve been playing since day one and I only found this today

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I really wish that this had some unique skill that essentially did the same thing but was a unique buff. Being able to stack the skill’s buff with a weapon buff and golden vow would have been really nice. As it currently exists the skill feels largely pointless, especially since one of the biggest selling points for this weapon is that you can buff it with something like electrify armament.

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Love this spear and this might be a hot take but if you're going to not let us infuse a weapon with AOW at least give it a cool, unique one and not something that can be replaced with an incantation you can get so early into the game.

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I wish this took somberstones since you can't change the ash of war and all

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Great weapon for PvE, not so much for PvP. The weapon demolishes bosses and has a fun moveset, however the hitbox on the weapon is a little wonky for PvP and more than likely you'll whiff attacks that should connect.

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If you have the Erdtree Seal/40+ Faith, is it ever better to use the Sacred Order skill over Electrify Armament, outside of fighting undead enemies?

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Dex/Faith is the obvious way to go with this, but it seems like a surprisingly good pick for Quality builds as well.
Unless the calculator I used was wrong/outdated, it gets just a teensy bit more raw AR with 55/55/18 STR/DEX/FTH than if you were to swap the STR and FTH values. Then you have the 2h bonus, arguably greater mileage from phys. damage and Sacred Order not scaling with FTH(afaik).

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Imagine this with the Guardian's swordspear moveset I think it'd be pretty badass

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Yeah... i don't buy the whole "holy drops off late game" considering this weapon allowed me to beat Malenia in less than 5 minutes.

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My Beloved

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Sword on a stick. Most sensible and best looking one in its category, no competition.

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Would've been so cool to be able to swap AoW on this one.

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Sukuna and Kratos spear go brrrr

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all this needs is better dex/fth scaling and this thing will be massive

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just use mods

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Any suggestion for fashion to pair with this?Preferably something light. I had a few ideas, but I'm just not particularly happy with them.

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For a twist on a Margitt build: Erdtree Dagger with Parry on left, backup Erdtree Dagger with flame art for mad damage, Treespear with cold grease on right. Now you can Parry, proc Frost, and reset with Fire, all while fighting at different ranges. Replace Parry with Sacred Blade and you get more range/damage options.

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Goes nicely with vyke's dragonbolt

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"Wielded by knights employed as palace guards in the Royal Capital of Leyndell." Yet we don't see a single knight carrying one of these, what gives?

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It's so weird that it cannot equip ashes of war and yet has to be upgraded using regular smithing stones. Are there any other examples of this?

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Want an infusable version? Use the Guardians sword spear.

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Why is this not somber come on

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Actually not that bad, I’m at ng0 with this, jellyfish shield, sacred scorpion, holy tear and order blade and it hits real good, Greatshield talisman, old lord talisman, scorpion and I alternate between erdtree favor +2 and turtle talisman, the shield is disappointing, especially because unlike order blade and golden vow its buff cannot be extended but eh, dex/faith is already spread out as it is.

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If you want to infuse this then go play ds2

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What damage type is the green “Sta“ in the upgrade table?

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This is a ‘sleeper hit’ of a weapon. If it had a B scaling it would be too good. A 3-hit running R2 and a poise-breaking charged R2? Whether you are a Strength, Dexterity, Quality or part-time Faith user, do not sleep on this Great Spear.

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the best part of this weapon is that its not infusable, it gives the weapon personality and turns it into a sacred nuke. Yall can cry about it

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What I would give to infuse this...

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does this weapon's skill also work on non buffable weapons? if you swap it for a non buffable weapon after using the skill, the yellow glow stays

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This with Heavy, and fingerprint/ant shield str+ faith erdtree seal, enough dex to equip and you’re off to be a Roman Crusader.
For some reasons, this spear has a base holy damage, and it can be buffed with Order’s Blade, it’s probably my most liked defensive playstyle in this game, safety and good damage, you can use a heavy thrusting sword with an electric buff if you’re facing someone with a lot of holy resist, or a broadsword, keeping with the theme.

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I'll never understand why some weapons can't get their AoW's changed but still require regular Smithing Stones.

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weapon skill, O weapon skill

I wish you were Shared Order

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This thing is destined to kill Deathbirds.

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For those of you lamenting at the unfavorable weapon skill, lament not. Sacred Order is a global damage buff, not just a buff to a specific weapon's holy damage. Additionally, it persists even after swapping to a different weapon, meaning that you can cast it from the off-hand, re-equip it into your main-hand and cast it again (it stacks with itself and everything else btw).

Goes really REALLY hard with a Sacred Lance or Siluria's Spear

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man if you could change its aow...

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There are 2 way you can go about building around this weapon. A primarily dex build which works quite well having higher physical damage to take advantage of spear talisman and counter hits and does better against the end game bosses with high holy resist. Also the better option if trying to powerstance 2 of them.

The other way to build this is primarily faith. The damage is initially worse but you can use order's blade to buff it. This can actually result in higher ar than the dex focused build. The downside is that its more holy damage which is worse at taking advantage of counter hits and has more trouble against high holy resist bosses. Its also worse at powerstancing since you can only buff one of the weapons.

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make the ash of war changable, it's a cool looking weapon, if i could have saw storm assault i would

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this is bullshit bruh why does it scale with dex but its like 20kg

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Every time Elden Ring gets a really cool bug, people are complaining nonstop to take it out. It happened with crouch poke flails and it'll end up being this.
Enjoy it while you can, I guess.

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Good to pair with Jellyfish shield since this AoW is not great anyway. Use greases to buff.

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Isn't it bugged now? Buff from WA stays when you switch your weapon. It is working even with 'unbuffable' stuff, adding some DMG. It also give some weapons golden aura, which is longer than weapons itself, try it on flails and ss.

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The main thing this weapon has going for itself (beyond being a greatspear of course) is that it scales with Faith, but can still be buffed. Since it deals innate Holy damage, you can infuse it with Order's Blade to double dip in Faith scaling without splitting your damage more than it already is. It's great.

Unfortunately, the Ash on this weapon CANNOT be changed and the Ash also applies an inferior weapon buff that overwrites Order's Blade. I would have preffered a Holy Spectral Lance like Morgott uses (He summons a glowing Treespear to throw) instead of a generic Ash of War that can't be changed. Sad.

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The r2s remind me of spear heavy attacks in demons souls

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THEY CAN’T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS!

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I wish the Ash of War was Sacred Phalanx or a Holy Version of that Occult Spear throw that Morgott uses.

It's lame when Somber weapons have generic Ashes of War that can't be changed.

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Love the moveset of this weapon in PvE

Only drawback is the requirements which makes it a bit awkward to use in very early game, unless you're fine with playing low vigor for a bit

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Stay with me here -- this is some strange combination of the Serpent-Hunter and the Erdsteel Dagger. Like the Serpent-Hunter, the Treespear is an uninfusable great spear with a poor ash of war, and like the Erdsteel Dagger it comes with innate scaling in Faith and the ability to be buffed, something it shares with the Clayman's Harpoon (but scaling with Intelligence) and new to patch 1.09 the Great Club. This makes the Treespear an extremely unusual weapon. Despite having mediocre scaling in Faith, the ability to be buffed means you can both get decent damage from pumping 80 Faith just on its own and also add ~250 holy or lightning damage using weapon buff spells. A Treespear build is probably the best weapon buffs have felt to me since DS2 -- maybe even DS1 with Crystal Magic Weapon.

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The charged R2 on this is horrifying in PvP. I'm pretty sure this is the only greatspear that has it and it's not a super popular weapon regardless, so people will often getup roll with the wrong timing. At worst, you'll probably just hit them with the second part of the attack; at best, you time it right and they roll right into both attacks of a charged R2, which is tons of damage.

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Tree spear should’ve had shared order. Sacred order buffs spell damage 10% for sacred builds, which is its niche use. Tree spear is a dex weapon with requirements too high for most casters. And a caster would be using orders blade. Shared Order is better than sacred order, doing more damage to undead, buffing spell damage the same, buffing allies dmg against undead and is compatible with Orders blade. Even golden vow ash would’ve been better than sacred order, just like golden halberd.

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I know this weapon scales best with Dexterity, but resist the temptation to make a hybrid Dex/Faith build, and instead just go min stats in Str and Dex to weild it, and put 80 points into Faith. Why? Because buffing this with Order's Blade at 80 Faith and using the Erdtree Seal gives you a much higher AR than any combination of Dex or Faith you can come up with if you are using the same stat pool for your character.

The Ash of War on this sucks compared to Order's Blade, I fully agree here. It is nowhere as good. How do you get past that? Easy - Don't use it. Put your Erdtree Seal in your left hand to buff the Treespear in your right. Then put a shield in the second left slot. Now you can use a good shield Ash of War like Holy Ground, Barricade Shield or Golden Parry instead, and not have to worry about trying to use your main hand ash by holding it in both hands to get it to go off, then switching back so you can use your shield ash again.

Enemy is resistant to Holy, and it is causing your damage to fall off a cliff? Just use the entire bank of spells you have available to you to burn/lightning/black flame/poison/rot them down. Put a related seal in your offhand to your Erdtree Seal, and get max damage benefit.

At 15 Str, 22 Dex and 80 Faith, your AR at +25 for this weapon will be 674. A +10 Erdtree Seal has an incantation scaling of 353.7 at 80 faith. Multiplied by 0.75 for the Order's Blade buff gives an AR boost of 265.275. Add this to your base AR and by buffing with Order's Blade alone you get a total AR of 939.275. And that's before Golden Vow and Flame Grant Me Strength. That is monstrous for a melee build by itself, but combine that with the fact that this spear does great poise damage, has great double-hit combo's on the charged heavy, a great reach and can be used to do shield pokes, and then all the benefits from having 80 faith to cast incantations with, and there should be no reason why you can't completely dominate the game from very early on.

The only drawback to this build is that an infuseable shield, treespear and seal (use Godslayer, it's better than Finger before 69 faith) all draw on regular smithing stones to level up, which can lead to a bit of a pinch, especially when you hit the need for smithing stone 6's. I'd upgrade Godslayer Seal highest as it gives more back via Incantation Scaling for both buffs and direct attacks, then Treespear and finally your shield. Once you hit 69 Faith you should have all 9 if not 10 Somber Smithing Stones ready to go and can get your Erdtree Seal up to max pretty much immediately.

This weapon is slept on because its Ash of War kind of sucks (it will boost your incantations though, which is great if you want to use 2 seals at once) compared to Order's Blade. But with all the bonuses it gives, who cares? Shield ashes when you need it, incantations otherwise, all while keeping your main hand weapon out if you aren't dual running seals. A brilliant weapon, so easy to get, and the stat requirements aren't too harsh. All-round excellent.

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This is always going to be my favorite weapon in the game. I love the moveset, reach, poise damage; how it looks; the fact that it was in the reveal trailer and that Morgott throws spectral versions of it at you; God its been fun using this thing

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It feels good hunting Deathbirds with this... feels appropriate almost.

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I’ve paired this with Vyke’s War Spear. Dex+Fth knot physick, Electrify armament+Flame Grant Me Strength; everything has been turning to dust. Undead evaporate just by looking at them. It’s great.

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Is this the longest great spear in the game?

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If you combo r2 two times you can stun just about anyone with a full charge attack then a quick r2 and finish with a r1 critical hit

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Assuming I was using orders blade with pure fth and minimum stats for tree spear... what are some keen weapons also good with Orders blade that aren’t out performed by sacred affinity?

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Best looking spear

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Ok so i can buff myself with the ash of war, and buff this weapon to make 3 kinds of damage? Cool

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I wonder, are there any equivalents for the other elemental damage types? E.g. a weapon with inate fire damage that can be buffed with bloodflame blade, or magic with magic sword or lightning with electric armament?

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This weapons Ash really needs a buff as in it's current form its completely outperformed by buffs like Order's blade, perhaps something like braggarts roar where a body buff and a weapon buff come from the AoW. Like if this gave 15 flat or a 25% poise buff as well as its weapon buff it could be viable and due to it having split damage that focuses on the holy side it doesn't synergize too heavily with counter attacks for the poise to be overpowered.

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i WISH this thing could have its ash changed, i love the move set, but since the weapon skill is a simple buff, the move set becomes limited, unless you dont care much for versatility like i do, then its fine, plus the heavy attacks are super duper fun anyway.

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Does anyone know why this spear is upgraded using smithing stones NOT somber, can be buffed by poison / electrify armament or blood / black flame blade AND buffed with grease but has a skill locked onto it ? Which also happens to be a skill no f**ker would ever choose for this spear outside of players that might want to RP as a golden order zealot / hunter.
But it's highly effective against "those who live in death" you say ? So what ? numerically undead are a very small enemy type compared to guards, foot soldiers there are even more wandering idiots and marionettes than skeletons and deathbirds. If you take the fanboy hat off and think about it objectively this spear is just one in a pretty long list of bad / really bad design decisions and f**k ups that Elden ring is riddled with. It highlights From Software was in over its head on an open world game of this complexity.

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My favorite weapon in the game used it on my first playthrough and I still use it today. Favorite weapon in these games are spears and favorite build is dex/faith, and this is absolutely perfect.

And for those who are not big fans of the ash of war, just remember it's a flat 10% boost to ALL your damage not just the Treespear itself. Plus it stacks with most buffs besides weapons buffs (obviously lmao) and lasts a minute now. Pretty insane weapon tbh

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I love this thing, used it on my first playthrough, using it as my regular weapon even now. Would be nice if it's AOW could be changed but honestly the moveset is so much fun even without that. Easily the coolest great spear and my favorite weapon of the game fr

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This just might be my new favorite weapon.
1,520 AR at RL125.
Doing 4k damaged with a single charged attack.

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it really sucks that you can't change the ash of war on this. if you could slap on a lightning ash, it'd be a perfect Great Value Ornsteins Spear

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takes about treefiddy to wield this spear

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If you have two of these using the weapon art on one applies an equal damage buff to the other so Take Two of these cast golden vow two hand the left one use the ash of war one hand use main hand ash of war and with 60 dex sacred scorpion charm and base faith gets a little over 1000 ar on each it's still split damage so take the number with a grain of salt but it is still so good.

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my new ornstein build weapon

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With the right investment, Order Blade + Holy Scorpion Charm + Holy Crystal Tear will give this so much holy damage that it reaches the breakpoint where instead of split damage being a detriment, it is a linear upgrade in damage. That makes this weapon perform way better than other split damage weapons. Also with order blade on you should smack a skeleton just to see how insane the damage gets.

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The fact that you cant infuse this but can infuse the claymans harpoon, which is another split damage weapon with a generic ash of war upgraded with normal smithing stones is a travesty.

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honestly so mad you can't use this together with the Erdtree Greatshield without sacrificing a lot of damage or being way too high level.

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Lore-wise, would this be considered an Erdtree Worship (Pure Faith) weapon or a Fundamentalist (supposed to be Int/Faith) weapon?

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This thing buffed with Order’s Blade is just NASTY

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This weapon could really use a scaling buff or being changed into infusable.
It's scaling at max is comparable to standard weapons at +25

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This seems to be the perfect pairing for Vyke's spear? Strongish dexterity scaling (looks like a high C at max level), along with a little faith scaling. The faith scaling must be really low, though, to never reach even lower C level scaling.
I think choosing between this and Lance for a Vyke's combo, I would go with Lance. I could put the Lance as a dexterity scaling weapon with the item in Stormveil early. You would get no faith scaling, until you get that whetblade later.

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How Maureen manages to use Charge Forth on this spear and constantly stunlock Millicent is beyond me.

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Kinda wish you could yeet this like Morgott does.

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this weapon actually facilitates like 700 damage per swing if you infuse it with ash of war + keen damage. it makes it much more tolerable in pvp and allows it to backstab combo. no matter how you use the weapon, orders blade is a absolute win since it increases the elemental damage ever further and gets the AR above 800.

Also, if you dual wield two of these (in ng+) you could use powerstance and make even more runes that way. But you have to be careful when the buff runs out to replenish it or else your a sitting duck. overall i've relied on this weapon countless times in boss fights and especially against the grafted scion its good because its weak against fire and you can combo with catch flame.

The moveset is unique as well and reminds me a lot of the guardian swordspear moveset with sweeping swings and nosedives. easy to rollcatch in pvp or to give piercing damage +bleeding which can counter rivers of blood if you time it right.

scholars armanent is compatible and buffs it even more depending on you intelligence level and if you have a sacred seal. my only gripe with the weapon is the fact that it scales best with dexterity, but i think most people who want to use this are primary faith builds

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>Fullmetal Alchemist
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>Fullmetal Alchemist

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Isnt this the weapon the cleanrot knight in the very first announcement trailer uses?

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