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Pretty funny when he keeps casting this and you're a lightning faith user.

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It needs to be reworked or the equip load buff needs a buff. Like instead of 15 percent it needs to be raised to at least 20. I don’t understand how Fromsoft can put a tear in the game where you can light roll with almost any weight, but gave this incant such a mediocre equip load buff it’s ridiculously niche and almost completely pointless to use other than for an aesthetic.

Like the tear requires you to sacrifice a physick slot. And for Vyke, if you’re trying to buff up from a medium roll to a light with medium weighted armor using weapons that are weighted like straight swords to greatswords.

(This isn’t gonna be precise but I’ve done the math with different armor and weapons and have a good idea of what is required, this is basically an estimate of what you need)

If you’re weight is 25-35, you have to sacrifice a talisman slot(for great jar or Erdtree’s favor) and have 22-35 endurance.

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Only thing this incant has going for it is that it looks damn cool, but that’s about it. If you’re ok with having to rely on this without fat-rolling then I guess it does save you some points in endurance and/or a talisman slot but I mean is it really worth the burden?

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Instead of an equip load buff, it would be better if it reflected some damage taken back to the enemy. You get damaged and possibly staggered, but the other gets a shock in response.

As for the weapon buff... a little disappointing for the point at wich this can be obtained. If you ain't driven into fashion, you ain't using this spell at all.

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This does not act the same as dragonbolt blessing in regards to the body enhancement(weapon enhancement is correct):

Dragonbolt Blessing-

+30 to status resistences
Tier 2 hardness
-35% to lightning resist

Vyke's Dragonbolt-
+15% to max weight
-35% to lightning resist

If you're looking for pure body enhancement than go with dragonbolt. If you're wanting increased carry weight + electrify armament in one package then go with Vyke.

One thing I am unsure of though is if the red lightning of vyke's dragonbolt does extra damage to ancient dragons/dragons in general. That could be a point in its favor.

Otherwise dragon bolt blessing is the way to go.

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- buff lightning weapon part's incant scaling
- buff equip load increase
- add the effect of regular dragonbolt blessing

The possibilities of buffing this spell are limitless.

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useless...
at least it looks cool
why does from have to cripple faith builds

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Actually nice to use with a Heavy infused Giant-Crusher in NG+/endgame. With 80 faith on the Erdtree Seal it's +265 Lightning Damage on an S scaling strength weapon and the damn thing is 26.5 units of weight so the 15% equip load buff is actually useful here. I'm outside reasonable build territory (level 244), but 60 strength and 80 faith is quite achieveable in NG+ and my attack power is at 1160 while two-handing it. With the Earthshaker Ash of War you're doing colossal damage and stance damage and looking like a malignant thunder god while doing so. If you like Maliketh's Black Blade but the Holy Damage isn't working for you - this isn't optimal either but you'll probably enjoy it.

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Okay theory crafting time

Dragon knight build

Lightning strike

Fortissax's lightning spear

Glaive

Ice lightning

Vyke's dragonbolt

Any infusable weapon on keen

Radagon icon

Lightning scorpion

Flex option

Flex Option

Stats in the usual suspects, health, stamina, FP, dex, and faith.

Aim for your stamina level to be at 15% away from light equip load.

Now before anyone critises this for being unnessacary, remember that frost builds will literally throw in random fire effects just to make it a worse bleed build.

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This should be an ashe of war.

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Bro it would dope af if it gives you more running speed.

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Worth it if it gave you level 2 hardness like dragon bolt blessing or better dmg than electrify armament. The gimmick could have also been ok if casting it was also a red honed bolt attack that allowed you to buff and attack in one move... so much wasted potential.

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RED LIGHTNING POWER RAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH

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Everybody in the comments here completely missing the point of this spell. It looks cool!

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Actually insulting game design:

Harder to get, requires more stats, costs more fp and stamina and gives the same damage bonus as electrify armament and has a downside. The only thing that stops this from being strictly worse than ElecArm is the equip load buff. The only way to benefit AT ALL form that is to minmanx your equipment so that this buff puts you under 30% or 60% eqp load...
And then your build will either fat roll without the buff or you'll midroll but without defenses. Pretty much the most inconvenient non-permanent stat boost in the game.

They could have just given it more damage than ElecArm or at least make the entire spell a body buff that boosts lightning damage so that it stacks with weapon buffs. They could have made this turn midrolls into light rolls while decreasing defenses. That way I don't have to choose between fast rolls and good looking armor.

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This spell has one use and one use only, and that is to tip your build out of "heavy" or "medium" loads and down into medium/light. It goes a long way when used alongside Great-Jar's Arsenal and/or Erdtree's Favor +2. For example, you can make a build with around 55 endurance, 60+ poise, a soft-capped damage stat, 15 weight available for weapon slot(s), AND still light roll. That is strong.

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Wait, this doesn't even make one handed weapons bounce off like "Dragonbolt Blessing"??? What even is the point of this. It costs more FP for buffing your weapon (same scaling as "Electrify Armament") and making you weaker to lightning damage. The least they could have done was adding in the good part of "Dragonbolt Blessing".

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for a little more FP, and for 20 seconds less, you get a cooler looking effect on your weapon, just use any body buff, like Flame Grant Me Strength AFTER casting Vykes and enjoy.

at 35 endurance, if you wanna go from med to light rolls with this spell, you get a big fat FIVE points of weight to work with before going over 30%, have fun.

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as much as it sucks that the equip load buff is so low, it still feels cool for a calculated gimmick build to have a mega power-up spell (unless fighting against lightning damage)

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to comment on the 18th literally just use it in game, your lightning defense stat plummets after using it.

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Isn’t everyone getting this all wrong? It’s a BODY BUFF as stated in the details. You won’t be hurt by lightning 35% more, but you’ll negate lightning 35% better . As I’m reading some of the comments, I think people have it backwards

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I don't think this warrants a memory slot. The dragonbolt blessing found in stormcaller church was moderately useful for a little while but that made one handed light attacks bounce and prevented combos this doesn't do that, it buffs the weapon and equip load, by the time you get this both of those are of questionable, if any worth at all.

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I wish the equip load buff was a lot higher (like 80-90%). This way you could use this to go from slightly overloaded to mid rolls and from slightly under max mid roll weight to light rolls at the cost of 35% lower lightning negation.

Would be a lot more useable then, instead of trying to keep yourself at 34.5% equip load for light rolls when buffed (so you're wasting 35.5% of your weight limit that will keep you in mid rolls), or trying to keep yourself at 80.5% equip load for medium rolls when buffed (instead of just using Great Jar's Arsenal and mid rolling anyway).

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It’s worse than electrified armament but it looks so freaking cool. Same scaling, higher fp cost, shorter duration, and a practically pointless equip load buff given that you get this late game. All that and I still use it for it’s cool visuals lol. If you’re looking for viability this isn’t it chief, just go with electrified armament. If you want to look good and feel good then screw it. Just use it. Do what the comment below suggested

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Here’s a tip: you can eat a boiled crab, or any body buff, to get rid of the debuff and equip load buff and still keep the weapon buff. Granted it’s more viable and cost less fp to just use the electrify armament and use a body buff, but you can do this if you want to keep the cool red lightning on your weapon.

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why this spell couldn't just be Electrify Armament + Dragonbolt Blessing is beyond me

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Fromsoft legit created a visually cooler but worse version of Electrified armament, smh. Same damage but higher cost of fp. Also sine the spell is late game the equip load buff is pointless for most builds at that point. Players usually have their endurance at a comfortable number late game. I’m sure for some heavy armored and colossal weapon wielding unga bunga warriors can find this useful. But really wish it was a stamina buff instead, or maybe nerf the equip buff and include a stamina buff along with it.

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Im nothing like the flash, some would call me the reverse

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They should increase the buff and lower the lightning resistance to 5%. HP costs in certain strong attacks are considerable but a 35% debuff is suicide.

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I just noticed, I used this spell instead of 'Flame, heal me' on accident but it kept my rot bar from raising any further. It actually took my rot down very slowly. Helpful for slowly trudging through lake of rot, which is when I used it

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i made a build that uses this to activate light equip load. really feels like im powering up

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This spell is so disappointing. Despite being red lightning it doesn't do any more damage than Electrify Armament and it has a shorter duration. The body aura is more of a debuff than a buff, 15% increase to equip load for 70 seconds is useless unless you base you equipment around it whish isn't at all worth it over adjusting your build to mid/light roll without buffing. So far more often than not you'd just be using an inferior version of Electrify Armament at the cost of more FP and -35% lightning negation.

Here's a far better way to justify the increased FP cost and late game location. It should do more damage than Electrify Armament, I'm thinking between +25% and +50%, and the aura should be reworked. Forget the equip load bonus and give it the defection bonus of Dragon's Bolt Blessing just without the status resistance. Giving it the same duration a Electrify Armament would also be nice.

If that's too much than the FP cost could be higher or something. But I'd say it would be way better than it's current state of all but useless given Electrify Armament and Dragon's Bolt Blessing exist while being better, having less drawbacks and are found far earlier in the game.

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I can't figure out why changing your equipload temporarily instead of putting more points in vit or changing gear would be useful at all. And weakness to electricity with it. FROM wth... Even just the combo of Electrify Armament and Dragonbolt Blessing in one slot and cast would be nice. It's like most spells and weapons are either very good or very bad with little overlap. Some are good given specific situation but crappy otherwise. After making these games for so long you'd think they'd get better at balancing stuff.

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nice

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Only slighty more useful now with the recent BHS nerf. Can help you get the maximum distance/i-frames and fast roll if you don't want to spend the physick slot for the winged crystal tear.

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This gives increased equip load because vyke couldnt handle that lansseax booty without it

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I always prefered the Red Lightning Buff for my weapon , to Off-set this Horrible Incantation firstly you need a Considerable Combo of Settings. ( Use Vyke's Dragonbolt , then immediately use Dragonbolt Blessing afterwards , this'll Override the Body Aura giving you the Dragonbolt Blessing's better Body Aura while still Maintaining the Red Lightning Buff towards your Armament ). This along with the Lord's Talisman will make the Yellow Lightning Body buff and the Red Lightning weapon buff be just like Electrify Armament's buff.... This Combo also saves you a Slot from Electrify Armament slot even tho both are Body Buffs altho Vyke's Dragonbolt blessing works as both Body & Weapon Buff , which is why this is the only Outuse i see for it while your weapon looks pretty cool and better with Red Lightning. ( You can also Golden Vow to negate and restore most of your Lost Lightning Resist , definitely equip Golden Vow as it also buffs the overall Damage of your weapon ontop of the Red Lightning Armament ). Now because you Buffed yourself with Dragonbolt Blessing after Vyke's Blessing , you should have the New better Body Buff of this Incantation and with extra cool animations equipping the Lightning Crystal Tear Physique mixture will surge up your Body with more Yellow Lightning animation combined with the Dragonbolt Blessing yet retaining the beautiful Red Lightning on your prefered Weapon.... Now i only figured this later when i wanted to Test out but sadly you can't put Flame , Grant me Strength with it. But Golden Vow is still accessible and worth the 3rd Slot. Not to even mention this Combo will make all of your Red Lightning Incantations look waay cooler aswell like Lansseax & Frotissax red lightning incantations. ;)

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will get you to fastroll if your regular equipload is 34.3 without it, but at that point, just put the points in endurance, don't even bother.

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To be fair there might be some usage for this spell now with 1.06 out. The equip load bonus is only useless because as long as you hit Medium Roll it doesn't really make much difference. However, 1.06 gives enhanced roll distance and iirc slight i-frame increase when at low equip load. So for example, against Malenia, you can use this to stay just barely in Low Equip Load to dodge her waterfowl dance easier via the long rolls (You can dodge it with 1-2 rolls vs 2-3 mid rolls) and you can wear more armor than you would otherwise have to hit low equip load, so can tank more hits.

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This spell is essentialy ****. The max weight bonus is useless, also applies electrify armament and the extra lightning damage received is just... Ugh. You better off just cast electrify armament and dragonbolt. I wish this spell as buffed so it could apply both DB and EA while still looking cool with the red lightning.

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This spell is essentialy ****. The max weight bonus is useless, also applies electrify armament and the extra lightning damage received is just... Ugh. You better off just cast electrify armament and dragonbolt. I wish this spell as buffed so it could apply both DB and EA while still looking cool with the red lightning.

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has anyone tested if red lightning does more damage to dragons than standard lightning? since the dragon blades work that way, seems like it could be possible?

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So is the dragonbolt blessing worth giving a spell slot then? I know one handed attacks bounce off, but I'm at mountaintop of the giants and I can't remember the last time I saw an enemy's combo interrupted by it.

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Add deflection to this like the dragonbolt blessing and it would be a great quick buff.

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It looks cool, and that's all that matters.

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Really wish it lasted longer and gave some resistance to other damage types but it could be way more expensive, it's not a very good buff compared to others

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ive tried shuffling my build and loadout around to make use of the extra equip load and its virtually never worth it and you're better off optimizing a light load entirely in the first place if that's what you want to do. it needs to be 20% to even be in the ballpark of usable or have a different buff entirely lmao

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can anyone tell me why I can't use this with any of my seals

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Best used for looking cool/cosplay otherwise there are much better options for both the effects this provides that doesn't include the debuff.

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This debuff would be worth it if scales more than electricfy

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Oh geeze more equip load just what I wanted definitely not a powerful weapon buff in exchange for shorter duration and lightning weakness

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just my opinion but If i got an idea to buff this incantation. I would increase the dmg of every other lightning incantations.

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too bad there are so many restrictions on what weapons can be buffed, makes a lot of these cool glowy weapon spells and all the grease kind of low value

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Dude had a dragon waifu

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I don't get this at all.

How does conducting lightning through your body make you WEAKER to lightning?

Why is the actual buff on this spell so... Useless? You get to equip a free Arsenal Talisman +0...

You'd think something like +20% Lightning damage or something, basically a longer lasting but more specific Flames, Grant Me Strength. Something that makes sense when you're super charging your entire body with lightning.

"Of all the knights, Vyke the Dragonspear was the one Lansseax loved the most." Shame Lansseax didn't love Vyke enough to give him a not garbage spell...

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There's a reason Vyke's preferred element is fire these days.

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If you want the lightning damage buff, just get electrify armament. It does the same lightning damage buff, it lasts longer, and even if the equip load gets boosted a bit the lightning damage decrease is bad. Even if your not fighting someone who does lightning damage, electrify armament lasts longer so just use that.

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I guess if his incantation was better he wouldn't be in a magic jail?

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This **** be suckin fr fr

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Maybe if used when you are already medium rolling with the Blue Dancer talisman as a stronger buff? (so when used you can have a damage buff from the talisman + the buff itself)

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I can't figure out the equip load portion of this. Are you intended to be a heavy-roller who buffs to be able to medium-roll, or a medium-roller who buffs to be able to light roll? One fat rolls whenever this expires, the other just has no poise all the time.

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Incant could use a buff. Theres a Physick Tear (winged?) that allows you to light roll in heavy armor, but it lasts for 3 minutes. Vyke is also to buff his spear War Spear with it, however the player cannot.

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so it's exactly the same as Electrify Armament, only you take 35% more lightning damage.
oooh, more equip load for 70 seconds, then it's back to fat rolling

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Idk they could replace the quip load buff with something like "when the buff is active all charged attacks send a lightning projectile"
And obviously make it last longer

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i wonder if casting another body buff after this removes the negative effect on lightning negation, while mantaining the other effects on weapon + equip load.
there's a strange behaviour with the Uplifting Aromatic's damage negation shield, since it persists even after using another Aura Buff.
maybe Vyke's buff works in the same manner? has anyone tested this before? if it works, it could be an interesting find.
otherwise, it's probably better to go for Electrify armament + Dragonbolt Blessing for thunder-based melee builds.

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Why is this incant so terrible

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Why is this incant so terrible

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Does this also deflect attacks like dragon bolt blessing?

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Sonehow Vyke can buff his unbuffable spear with this, but players cannot. Thx From

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Lightningproof Dried Liver can remove the jank body buff while maintaining the weapon incantation. It can be a cool option for fashion but still seriously needs a buff to something like + .9x spell buff for ar.

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Pro: In niche builds you can maintain have a med roll with heavy armor that grants poise. High poise allows you to trade blows with someone letting you get a combo off which could mean a win in pvp. And of course, with practice, Med rolling dodges any and all damage in the game.

Con: It is extremely high-risk, however, since we're all naturally already weakest to lightning, someone running some thunder incants or affinity would brutalize our hp bar from a missed roll. Better to just run Electrify Armament with equip load talisman imo

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What is the sense of getting an additional 15% equip load? So you can turn fat roll into mid roll or what?
Seriously this buff should be the combined effect of Dragonbolt Blessing + Electrify Armament. Otherwise this is just garbage.

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If this was a boss ability, it would have rendered that boss neigh immune to lightning, physical damage resistance and maybe you take damage from hitting them with a conductive, or just a melee weapon because of cognitive dissonance. you'd think since you can handle being surrounded by lightning, you would be resistant in some unironic magical way to its effects. i'll still use this cause it's ****ing cool and i don't give a damn about taking extra damage until i notice the guy i'm fighting has a lightning weapon to which i will run away forever until i can change the body buff. :)

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is this a mix between electrify armament and dragon bolt blessing incantations with some extra equip load?

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This incantation is so cool, it's a shame it's so bad, it could be buffed to at least increase the weapon's damage to be stronger than the Electrify Armament , or just increase the duration for us to use even if it's only for the look

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Maybe with the right equip load using this could get you into the "light" category which might be useful. If you'e not expecting to get hit with any lightning attacks.

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In case you need to be told: do not use this, ever.

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Tis he who skrewd the dragon ;)

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Electrify armament costs less FP, lasts 20 seconds longer, and doesn't reduce my lightning absorption. Why the **** would I use this instead.

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Isn’t red lightning supposed to be, y’know, better than regular?

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Vyke got a giant lightning dragon to simp for him and teach him magic. The man was on the grindset.

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man the dragon lightning and mostly frost lightning are such missed oppourtunities. i hope they buff them and add more cool stuff. ice magic in general seems pretty limited compared to fire. With fire you could go either int or faith but with ice the only attack you got for faith is ice dragon spear. lightning is so weird cause it scales to faith but has its own damage unlike magic and ice which are just magic damaage

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they should have made this buff both your weapons if you are dual weilding. that would pretty much offset the debuff.

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Is it good? Not really
Is it badass? Hell yeah

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Pointless ahead, in short try Electrify Armament

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it sounds and looks cool... that's about all it has going for it

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What purpose would this spell actually serve? The negative outweighs the benefits way too hard.

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It doesn't make any sense to me that an element buff that you apply on your weapon decreases your damage negation to this element.

How does that make any sense that by using lightning to be stronger you are more vulnerable to lightning ?

I'm just imagining Toph from Avatar using the Earthbending and suddenly being more sensitive to attacks from her own element lol

Anyway that's just my opinion.

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My man had the love of a dragon, straight up Donkey from Shrek status.

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I would suggest using the Electrify armament instead of Vyke's Dragonbolt just because of the amount of lightning defence it takes away I was testing out had 13.312 negation on lightning and then when I used Vykes took it all the way down to -17 but with Electrify armament it has no draw backs.

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Honestly, really odd how you can't use this on Vyke's Spear, despite the fact he can use it in his boss fight. It's not a great incantation by any means, but it would've a cool detail that only this incant and Vyke's Spear were the only things that could be combined, compared to other unbuffable unique weapons.

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Can it only be applied to physical weapons like Electrify Armament?

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Aside from cool red lightning, I think it might be fun to develop a build that can leverage the 15% equip weight buff to give you fast rolls for 70 seconds on top of the lightning buff. Maybe something in tandem with Great-Jar's Arsenal talisman could help get you there without dumping too much into Endurance. It's a shame you have to compete with the weird lightning debuff element too, you'd think the extra FP you're paying and lower buff clock would be enough without having to also eat a debuff.

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I swear for some reason, the first dragon mini boss you encounter on crumbling Farum dropped me this incant and I haven't fought Vyke at that time

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If you run a pure incantation build, this is a nice buff to have. It’s not the greatest (especially against some of the dragon bosses), but if you’re just running around, this with old lords talisman will be very helpful for getting through areas, or even pvp.

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This feels like a direct downgrade when compared to Electrify Armament... I mean, come on. It lasts 20 seconds LESS than EA and REDUCES your lightning negation by a lot. Sure it also increases your equip load but it erases any body buff that you have. It could probably be used in niche builds where you are fat-rolling, but other than that- you are better off sticking with Electrify Armament.

Vyke got screwed over pretty bad by Shabriri.

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For some reason Vyke can use this on his spear inside his Evergaol encounter, despite his actual spear drop is unbuffable

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Reading many responses comparing it with Dragonbolt Blessing, which is wrong imo. This incantation should be compared to Electrify Armament instead, and is a replacement if you have the higher Faith requirement and can afford the extra 8 FP. With the right set up you can turn a fat rolling build into medium roll, or medium roll to light roll with Vyke's Dragonbolt.

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shouldve been the weapon art for the dragon greatclaw

this + A / S str scaling would've made it goated

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Sad, i got excited I thought it was basically a madness imbue

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