Wing of Astel is a Curved Sword in Elden Ring. The Wing of Astel scales primarily with Strength, Dexterity and Intelligence. It is a good Weapon for builds that specialize in Intelligence and Dexterity.
Sword fashioned from a delicate wing, suffused with the magic of
the stars.
Strong attack unleashes a wave of enchanted light.
Crafted from a relic of the Naturalborn of the Void who is said to
have assailed the Eternal City.
Where to Find Wing of Astel in Elden Ring
The Wing of Astel weapon can be found at the following location:
- Found in a small chest at the top of the ruins in southern Uhl Palace Ruins. Can only be reached if you have access to the northern section of Ainsel River, by following the river east from northern Uhl Palace Ruins. From the Nokstella, Eternal City Site of Grace, look east at the waterfall and go forward, climbing up the ladder you see on your right. Go through the door and up the watery path, hugging the right wall, you'll encounter an ant enemy along the way and through the tunnel you'll see a T-Posing enemy with a scythe at the cliff. Continue hugging the right wall, and drop down safely down the ledges and up the path where the chest is located on the walkway behind the Malformed Star enemy. Be careful of the spells it fires at you, so you don't get knocked off the walkway. [Elden Ring Map here]
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Elden Ring Wing of Astel Notes & Tips
- Weapon Skill: Nebula
- This weapon cannot be infused with Ashes of War
- Can't be enchanted with Magic or boosted by Consumables
- Wing of Astel can be upgraded by using Somber Smithing Stones
- Deals +20% damage to
Gravity type enemies
- Strong attack creates a magical ranged attack for zero FP
- Charging the strong attack performs the magical ranged attack twice
- The Weapon Art, Nebula, creates an arc of exploding magic in front of the caster.
- If there is insufficient room for the magic arc to spread out, it will bunch up, making this incredibly deadly in tight areas or against walls as even more explosions will hit.
- The weapon art deals exceptionally high damage to poise.
- The damage of the weapon art is boosted by the Spellblade Set.
- NOTE: As of Patch 1.08, poise damage has been reduced, but only for PVP.
- NOTE: As of Patch 1.09, the scaling values of this weapon were changed. Please refer to the Upgrades Table of this weapon below. Additionally, the running attack speed, first attack speed of straight sword has increased. The attack recovery time has also decreased.
Player-related tips (may be subjective):
- The heavy attack on Wing of Astel creates a magic projectile, allowing you to attack many enemies from a slightly safer distance than you may otherwise be able to.
- The heavy attack can be charged, as well as chained for multiple projectiles in quick succession.
- Like other similar attacks, the projectile has a separate hitbox from the actual blade, meaning both can hit the enemy at the same time.
- Sell Value:
200
Moveset & Videos in Elden Ring for Wing of Astel
- As a curved sword, you have access to unique heavy charge cancel dodge move. Simply start charging your heavy attack and while you are still holding the button for heavy attack, press the dodge button, you will do a special dodge available only to curved swords
- Patch 1.07, The damage of Nebula skill is increased on Bastard's Stars, but not Wing of Astel. So you can pick Bastard's Stars for Nebula Knight build.
Wing of Astel Upgrades in Elden Ring
Please see the Upgrades page to understand the weapon bolstering process.
Requires regular reinforcement with Somber Smithing Stones.
This upgrade can be enchanted with Magic or boosted with Consumables.
Attack Power | Stat Scaling | Passive Effects | Damage Reduction (%) | ||||||||||||||||
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Wing of Astel | Phy | Mag | Fir | Lit | Hol | Sta | Str | Dex | Int | Fai | Arc | Any | Phy | Mag | Fir | Lit | Hol | Bst | Rst |
Standard | 65 | 78 | - | - | - | 42 | E | D | D | - | - | - | 28 | 52 | 23 | 23 | 23 | 23 | 9 |
Standard +1 | 74 | 89 | - | - | - | 46 | E | D | D | - | - | - | 28 | 52 | 23 | 23 | 23 | 23.23 | 9 |
Standard +2 | 83 | 100 | - | - | - | 50 | E | D | C | - | - | - | 28 | 52 | 23 | 23 | 23 | 23.46 | 9 |
Standard +3 | 93 | 111 | - | - | - | 54 | E | D | C | - | - | - | 28 | 52 | 23 | 23 | 23 | 23.69 | 9 |
Standard +4 | 102 | 123 | - | - | - | 58 | E | D | C | - | - | - | 28 | 52 | 23 | 23 | 23 | 23.92 | 9 |
Standard +5 | 112 | 134 | - | - | - | 63 | E | C | C | - | - | - | 28 | 52 | 23 | 23 | 23 | 24.15 | 9 |
Standard +6 | 121 | 145 | - | - | - | 67 | E | C | C | - | - | - | 28 | 52 | 23 | 23 | 23 | 24.38 | 9 |
Standard +7 | 130 | 157 | - | - | - | 71 | E | C | C | - | - | - | 28 | 52 | 23 | 23 | 23 | 24.61 | 9 |
Standard +8 | 140 | 168 | - | - | - | 75 | E | C | B | - | - | - | 28 | 52 | 23 | 23 | 23 | 24.84 | 9 |
Standard +9 | 149 | 179 | - | - | - | 79 | E | C | B | - | - | - | 28 | 52 | 23 | 23 | 23 | 25.07 | 9 |
Standard +10 | 159 | 191 | - | - | - | 84 | E | C | B | - | - | - | 28 | 52 | 23 | 23 | 23 | 25.3 | 9 |
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Basically pre-nerf Flames Of The Redmanes if a lot of the explosions hit
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There is absolutely no better feeling than melting through enemies with a mf bug wing. This sword is my everything
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This is the Lite version of The Moonlight Greatsword from the Dark Souls Games:)
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One might think this wouldn't fare as well against heavy armor, but turns out gravity damage is like strike damage's big bro. It only applies on the weapon itself and not the proyectiles, but it stance-breaks the sht out of any knight.
Nebula goes apesht on gravity damage and poise-breaks EVERYTHING.
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I can't decide if this looks cool or not. Sometimes it looks awesome and sometimes it looks dumb. Maybe if it looked a little more like it was worked into a sword?
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Anyone know is R2 projectiles scale off of only Int like an AoW or if they have the weapons normal scaling?
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Do the R2 projectiles deal additional poise damage, and is the amount of poise damage dealt by the projectiles increased by charging the attack?
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It needs an fp requirement on the projectiles. Projectiles are partially balanced out by having to “reload” and giving melee builds a chance to block that reload. A little tired of 3 minutes of endless backflip kiting by mages because this costs no fp.
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This has to be my favorite weapon in the game, and I didn't expect it from it at all. It's SO versatile. The heavy L1 and L2 cover completely different bases, being a zoning tool and a stance breaker. It weights only 2.5, so you can equip it as secondary sword for a spellblade build.
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Golden Vow Ash of War prevents the Wings of Astel AoW from dealing any damage. Patch 1.08.1
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is it possible to get this without fighting the valiant gargoyles or doing Rannis quest line?
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I think I've encountered a bug with this weapon. I couldn't test damage on the AoW Nebula on the giant outside the Giants' Gravepost site with a Wing of Astel +9 or +10 on ER v. 1.0.8.1. Nebula did 0 damage to the giant, but a fully charged R2 with minimal buffs would do 5500 dmg and instantly stagger. My build wasn't even that good lol. I had to quit the game in order for damage to proc with the AoW again, but still won't work on that giant.
Spamming R2s with this is as annoying as bestial sling spam in pvp.
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This is my Elden Beast slayer. My Int mage could damage Radagon from far away, but not that star dragon. I resorted to rushing at it whenever I'm not dodging and this did really satisfying damage (each use dealt like 10% of EB's hp, was at NG). At maybe 30-40% hp left, this managed to stagger it, and I spread my stars all over its body.
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The poise damage is so high, meaning in pve the enemy either staggers or rolls away- enough time to pretty much always prepare a big spell like say Zamur ice storm.. Great synergy, melts big bosses and keeps small fry away. Stacks with Rotten sword insignia! The r2 attack and the storm stack with godgfrey icon...
if you go down the comments to the very first one, you will see a guy say PKCS, this is proof that the PKCS is in elden ring
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Was doing invasions and a blue phantom came up to me and started spamming the Aow, it stunlocked me completely and I sat there trying to dodge in any direction but couldn't, it took a while for it to kill me tho
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Its crazy that even tho rotten breath got nerfed you can still get this in the "early game" by using rotten breath on rahdan
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It has a cool moveset and a pretty strong AOW, (though it's nothing special) but it's attack damage is poor.
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Just got this. I now have a plinking spell for zero fp and a better AoE than I had hoped for from sorcery, at a low for cost. It's basically a second staff with a couple spells permanent on it. Top tier.
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Essentially a one handed MLGS if used correctly and good for most squishy mage builds when they want to save on FP or if they don't want to use Moonveil
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Best thing: the R2 projectiles don't cost FP. If you want to make an INT based melee build without putting points in Mind, this seems like a great option.
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I noticed that near crystal bosses, caves, or other large bosses (Astel natural born of the void), the weapon crackles when doing a charged heavy. Does anyone know why?
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The WA is completely busted in PVE. Literally one of the most OP and fun things I've used in this game.
The delay on the explosions means you can use it to anticipate gap closers that normally can't be punished. A lot of enemy attacks in this game can be predicted but very difficult to punish, since you have to waste time rolling. With this WA, since the explosions are not only delayed but staggered(the explosions go off over ~1 second), you can cast it before they attack, and if you successfully predict the opponent's gap closer they end up charging straight into a field of mini nukes. The quick cast speed and low recovery frames means you can roll away safely while the enemy is getting a face-full of explosions. To add a layer of fun the large AOE means it's pretty easy to aim it unlocked, and you can change the direction you fire the orbs at the very end of the cast animation, combined with the quick cast speed you can quite safely attempt to set up those explosions wherever you anticipate the enemy moving next.
The other thing that makes it completely busted is that an enemy can be hit by multiple explosions. Meaning any larger enemy will eat multiple explosions and take boatloads of poise damage if you pull it off right.
By comparison I found the R2 projectiles incredibly useless. It does little to redeem the crappy curved sword R2.
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Does the feint attack fire off a projectile? You cancel a heavy attack, and the frozen needle fires one off.
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Oddly enough, the charged waves receive no bonuses from Godfrey's Talisman
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This weapon is great once you have 2 especially for a sorceror, with 2 they only have a weight of 5 allows for light rolling and it still does great damage with only 20 strength and dexterity with the main damage coming from int. And it means I dont have to fully rely on spells for fighting.
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Apart from fashion-souls, and lets be honest we all want our red shadows to look stylish and show our sartorial elegance in case another player interacts with our bloodstain, is there any point in powerstancing unique weapons either from friend drops, player trades or from playing through the NG + cycle?
The benefit of two blasphemous blades or two sword of Milos for their respective HP and FP regen is obvious and I can see both making the higher end of the NG+ playthroughs a lot less fraught but the blood-loss from two of Morgott's cursed swords can be outclassed by a single weapon with blood infusion and the same for frost, fire or lightning. So apart from Rykard's or Dung eater's swords are there any unique weapons worth powerstancing for any reason other than looking good?
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I think it says a lot about how good a weapon is if the biggest complaint people have about it is just the aesthetics
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If it had a proper handle and started to taper more to a sharper edge at the end I would main this weapon dual wielded always. But I just can't run into battle with it like this. There's so many pieces of gear in this game are almost perfect (This but the shape is just off, Rogiers Hat but the wrap ruins it, carian Knight sword but you can't change the Ash, waves of darkness but it can only be used on the biggest weapons etc) and the niggles build up and really trigger my ocd lmao
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Currently bugged in v1.06. Nebula deals 0 damage when Golden Vow is in effect.
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See a lot of talk about its appearance, it's a really pretty wing but it does look very daft as a sword. If it went more to a sharp point it might be an improvement instead of a perfectly preserved fairy-looking wing with a handle stuck on. Hey at least its 10x better to look at than the mace.
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Strangely, while the ash-of-war-effect „golden vow“ is active, „nebula“ doesn‘t do any damage, but it still has a hitbox and staggers enemies.
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I don't have the stats for this but I was messing around earlier and I tried it out with the stargazer heirloom and imp cat head. I really like it a lot, the weapon art seems to be on a par with flame of the redmanes for poise damage. This is the first weapon that has INT requirements and scaling that I've liked enough to think it might be worth doing a respec with Rennala so I can use it. What kind of INT investment would I need to see good damage from the sword and weapon art?
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the weapon is beautiful but the colors clash w most armor unless youre an EDM warrior build
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Seems that when you are near an Astel and use this weapon's heavy attack, it makes whooshy lightning SFX, which is very interesting. Tested with the Astel next to the chest where you get this weapon.
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If you hold R2 and B at the same time then you can do a backflip attack. I haven’t found any other weapon that has a similar response.
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Elden ring: has tons of cool looking weapons
Me: hehe I use bug wing to slice yaya
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Great dueling weapon for INT builds. Nebula is great for area denial , obscuring casting animations and punishing jump attack spam.
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Just wanna say that this thing slaps. Landing the heavy attack at melee hand deals bonkers damage and the attack isn't even slow. Landing a fully charged heavy attack hit the pests on the Grand Cloister for 1.4k dmg at 68 int with the magic tear and magic scorpion charm
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Does the axe talisman affect the charged projectile damage?
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Fantastic alternative to moonveil for Int players. Arguably as good because no one ever expects it, and really fun to use with a diverse moveset.
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Incredibly useful weapon art for PvE, you can cast it around corners and change angle mid cast, making it very flexible as an AoE. Enemies also will typically react to the cast, and not the actual detonations, meaning they can be kited through and take 2-3 explosions (e.g., Malenia!).
Got my first kill of Malenia today using Nebula predominantly, no summons or bloodhound or bleed (I’m a noob to FS games so this was a big achievement for me!!!)
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Can anyone give me a good setup for a build around this weapon? I was thinking mixing this with some gravity/meteorite spells but I am open to suggestions
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Saw so many people complain about how bad it looks, found the weapon myself and it literally looks like what you'd expect, the wing of a spaceborn creature. Seriously, it looks cool for a curved sword and actually unique, I can't fathom what all these people are so disappointed about. If you really don't like it, then just use moonveil and stop complaining?
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Also gains its powered up moveset for the crystalians boss fight in the altus tunnel
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Biggest gripe in the game, favourite weapon art, stylish weapon class, light weight and it ****ing looks like this.
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Works really well in PVP, use R2 to poke at range and use Collapsing Stars to pull them into Nebula.
I don't know if anyone mentioned this, but in various locations (Near astels) this weapon changes it's r2 into much more powerful attacks
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not a fan of fit visually but its a very fun mage weapon in pve. more interesting than moonveil thats for sure...so for mage weapons, unless you really love moonveil i would give this a try or darkmoon greatsword if looking for unique entertaining weapons
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In this pic here it looks like a badass cosmic solid sword.
In game it looks like a butterfly wing. It looks like I’m slapping enemies with a dang butterfly wing LOL.
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Why they didn't put this r2 on dark moon greatsword I'll never know
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L2 is purple fume spark from sekiro but better and i love it
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I have much more fun playing with it compared to Moonveil, which except for the awesome WA has a basic katana moveset. I believe the compromise is to use both weapons, as Astels Wing WA absolutely melts bosses. One adventage Moonveil has is bleed damage, but Astels has a ranged R2 that has no cost.
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The WA stopped doing actual damage - just does poise damage now. Any idea what could cause this and how to fix it?
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I found the weapon art very useful against the Elden Beast. My guess is it does physical damage and Elden Beast has pretty low phys defence.
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No one seems to mention how well the charged R2 puts enemies in critical state in melee range. Like, 2 hander or Square Off tier. Better than the weapon art if you can't land all the hits of the art (small enemies).
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Does anyone know if the gravity sorcerers drop their set or weapon?
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Ugly as hell weapons bruv. Can't have an ideal fashion souls at all. Sad.
Does this weapon actually do extra damage to "void" type enemies? this is the only source i can find on this and its not in the item description.
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Wing of astel in your right hand; another curved sword you like, with a cold ash of war infused, in your left end.
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Just putting this out there - could this be inspired by Serpico's feather sword from Berserk?
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I main this weapon, and I'm saying the R2 projectiles need a nerf, they just hit too damn hard for an attack that takes nothing from you. With the usual mage-buffing Talismans/Physik, they can average like 500-600 damage. Realistically, they should hit for half that.
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Absolutely slept on in pvp. Strong projectile comes out fast uncharged and can be charged for mixups, nebula deters approaches and can create frame-traps if the enemy decides to rush through and attack and you used proper spacing, and the regular attacks are very fast and deal a lot of damage. With my sorcerer I can trade with a lot of katana regular hits and even some heavy weapons.
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Weapon is absolutely amazing and a wonderful alternative to moonveil. Moonveil off the bat is easier to use but this has far better synergies with your spells than Moonveil. The moonveil hate is pretty annoying as one weapon can be cool without hating on another. Maybe people are mad that there are new ways to play pvp idk but this weapon is by far the best light int weapon replacement you can get and hands down an all around sick weapon.
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Hot damn, this weapon's got it all. Fast attacks, powerful attacks, ranged attacks, double ranged attacks, ranged attacks with melee hitboxes (potential 4-hit attack) large aoe attacks, R2-dodgecancel-R1 styling, varied mixups to boot with all that.
I decided to pair it up with Night Maiden Mist, Eternal Darkness and Cannon of Haima for a less orthodox spellsword build and it's so damn fun to play, both PvE and PvP. If all int builds you know are turret-mages, try this weapon and enjoy a new experience.
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As someone who just full cleared, and platinumed the game while trying every weapon and build I could possibly try, this is my favorite weapon in the entire game. It works with 2h, sheilds, and 1h with staff. It has distinct and interesting move sets for all types. Its art direction and feel are exceptional and finally vs anything with any relevant size the weapon art is flat out S+ tier. Killing massive enemies faster than anything else and not having to worry about resistances/immunities which sometimes are the bane of bleed builds. The frequent staggers aren't as OP as with other weapons which can use the time to apply status effects, but its a nice opening to pot or rebuff and it does so much damage you rarely care. Remember EACH explosion from the ability does separate damage.
While I eventually ran 2 of them for aesthetics its not necessary at all and you might be better off running a cold infused scavengers curved sword with something like Seppuku or the blades over your head for infrequent use. Giving you status and the 2h move set.
As someone who has tried EVERYTHING (Greatstars and Long Enboys horn are VASTLY underrated S teir weapons) I think every player should take about 3 hours with this weapon
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Neither Axe Talisman, nor Godfrey Icon boost its R2(Heavy attack) damage, but things like Magic Scorpion Charm does.
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Neither Axe Talisman, nor Godfrey Icon boost its R2(Heavy attack) damage, but things like Magic Scorpion Charm does.
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This weapon is incredibly good, and the WA is very very powerful. It staggers a ton, can destroy groups, gets around shield and corners and does lots of damage with a high int investment. Against Plasidusax I actually skipped phase 2 of the fight. Staggered at the end of phase 1 and then spamming Nebula, the dragon got staggered a second time and then finished it off with Nebula. Excellent to power stance with a second curved sword that's cold infused (I like scavenger for the extra bleed)
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Wish they can increase int scailing(and decrease others if balance is needed)currently this is more like a frost infusion(need a lot of points in both int and dex to make ar good) weapon rather than magic infusion, so ar is a bit low for pure int build. Other than that this weapon is good.
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wa = purple fume spark firecracker (except without the debuff)
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There is a REALLY weird bug with this weapon. If you try and buff it using the Commander's Standard halberd… it's attacks and charged R2 get the buff, but its weapon skill Nebula will completely stop dealing ANY direct damage. It still deals POISE Damage, so you can stagger opponents with it but for 30 seconds it will essentially make this weapon art totally harmless.
The same issue doesn't seem to happen with the Bastard's Stars version of that ability, but it's a bit harder to multi-hit since that starts with a physical attack. Just a little precaution if you're trying to buff and pour damage into an enemy that you'll do the opposite with this particular combo.
I'm not sure what buff precisely is triggering that issue, but it's never happened to any other weapon skill or other sorcery I've used thus far.
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Interestingly enough, if you use this weapon r2 or weapon art near a malformed star it makes a loud sparking sound effect, and the sparking sound effect disappear when you killed the malformed star. Tested in altus tunnel.
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Any recs on what other Curved Sword to dual weild with this? its the only one that scales with INT unfortunately
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This weapon is just insane
Fantastic base moveset, the weapon skill deals ridiculous poise damage to small enemies and large enemies will get absolutely chunked by it multiple times for massive damage. You can basically use it as a trap where you cast it and the casting animation baits the enemy to run at you and attack, then they get ****ed lol. Not only that, you get a heavy attack that enchants the sword and does extra magic damage AND fires a projectile for NO FP COST.
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interesting facts, the r2 projectile can proc winged sword insignia dmg boost
I'll echo the pretty exhaustive praise for this weapon; personally, this took the place of Moonveil and Clayman's Harpoon for my preferred melee-INT weapon. It feels very flexible, like for most combat scenarios I can make some use of the sword without having to resort to sorceries if I don't want to. It inherits many advantages of curved swords - fast light attacks and guard counters (if you're running with a shield) along with a sweeping attack motion does well chopping up groups of weaker enemies. Its ranged R2s let you space against tougher enemies, and because it's partially magic damage, it'll still chip through shields. Its weapon art serves double duty of either obliterating big packs of smaller enemies, or devastating larger enemies (e.g., runebears) who get hit by several of the explosions at once. It's also very light for all of these advantages, which can either save you a couple points on endurance or let you wear heavier armor elsewhere. Great weapon in my experience.
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As a int caster, using moonveil I was constantly out of stamina. Wing of astel only requires chugging FP drinks, which I have a lot. So wing of astel wins.
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I skip parse 2 of Mogott and Mogh with this +10 (and mimic) with 60 int, almost 1shot them
This weapon is so broken
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Fun fact : the WA goes through walls/corners ...
I use it a lot to punish ambushes, and the poise damage is absolutely insane against non-boss enemies (except maybe the ones with insane poise). Against 99% of the enemies in the game, you can lock them into interruption by spamming it, even those holy knights in Haligtree.
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does anyone feel the amount of explosions from nebula increased as they leveled up or am i just trippin?
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Fabulous weapon. Pair with another strong curved sword with an Int affinity and strong ability and you’re quite the versatile magic duelist. Nebula and fully charged R2’s are a great trap combination.
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Just finished a playthrough with this weapon, it's actually amazing. Especially the weapon art, pretty much demolishes every boss. Even worked very well against Malenia despite her mobility
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This has to be my favorite weapon in the game. The WA is just so strong. Every time I help a friend with bosses, they can't believe the damage I can put out in such a short time. This thing absolutely shreds, and Shard of Alexander pushes it even further. Can't wait to pick up a second one on NG+, not because I think powerstancing them would be the best combo (it would probably be stronger to have an offhand weapon with bleed/cold like the Scavenger's Curved Sword) but just for the sheer joy of having two because they just look so ridiculous.
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This has to be my favorite weapon in the game. The WA is just so strong. Every time I help a friend with bosses, they can't believe the damage I can put out in such a short time. This thing absolutely shreds, and Shard of Alexander pushes it even further. Can't wait to pick up a second one on NG+, not because I think powerstancing them would be the best combo (it would probably be stronger to have an offhand weapon with bleed/cold like the Scavenger's Curved Sword) but just for the sheer joy of having two because they just look so ridiculous.
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If this weapon is infused with cold affinity.. will the weapon arts inflict frostbite?
Ash of War is very powerful against large enemies. It is also good against Runebears, since it is favorable to stay beneath them anyway and when they get stance broken by it they don't apply their fast pressure to you.
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