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Gonna try and beat the game using only fart build. I call it, the Elden Stink build.

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making a poison build from the ground up must be hell in this game

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Just reading this forum. Have another look at poison moth flight. It makes poison a hybrid bleed/rot. Some people want all the burst of bleed and all the dot of rot, without valuing the benefit of having both burst and dot. The strength of poison is the ability to add a dot, the pop the dot for hp% burst damage, then quickly re-apply the dot to activate Exultation talisman and mushroom crown. Self-poison+cure is more manegable and less taxing than seppuku. Poison has so many tools that apply poison so very fast, and at every range. One or two 45 Arcane serpent bow, serpent arrow mighty shots seem to poison several bosses immediately at long range. Coiled shield doesn't even require arcane to quickly deliver deadly poison at midrange. Poison moth pops the dot for 5%maxhp burst + 250, while doing damage of a weapon AR heavy with added + 25% with a range close to punish (you can only use it to punish in pvp, but you want to range-close punish the bolus attempt). This is on top of the %HP dot that is running until you pop it. The ability to repeatedly pop and refresh for the 20% damage exultation talisman boost, plus the many ways to apply it, the fact that it applies so quickly and that the ranged options are so strong in their status amounts, and the and the fact that it can nearly keep up with normal rot dot while also doing all of these things makes it much better than some comments suggest. PS - yes, there is strong rot. Ekzykes and Scarlet Aeonia are pretty vulnerable and also often dunked on for this reason.

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For Ash of war poison mist, poison effect lasts much less than 90". Probably 40". Better off poisoning enemies with poison knives or serpent arrows

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Poison may be worse than scarlet rot, but it is more accessable and versatile!

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i love fart

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I think they could have made all instance of poison « deadly poison », and it still wouldn’t have been unfair, when stuffs like bleed and rot exist. The shorter duration would also have synergized better with the rot exultation.

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what they need to do is to allow multiple stacks of poisons...with each 15 in arcane stat the user have, they can add a stack of poison to double/triple/quadruple the effect...all it needs is to be harder to proc...like 35% less status build up and allow you to stack it...it would be more viable to infuse a weapon with poison for mid-late game...since we already know...poison build up is pointless if you can't apply it.........................it's never gonna be busted this way and it'll be certainly be better outside of low level characters..................it would be fun to have actual poison themed spells...i still dream of a poison mage pleague doctor build...let's hope they think about the potential poison could have if they finally make it right..................................just think of all the damage you lose uppon using poison infusion/enchants? all this wasted damage output should be brought back as poison damage............imagine you lose 70dmg on your weapon because it's poison infused...and then remember you can't buff it....take this 50-250dmg wasted into poison damage and there we go! finally fun to use!

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I think the way I'd rework poison would be to lower its damage and shorten the active time but in return make it take less buildup to proc and let it stack with itself (which would reset the active timer). Rot is always going to be the go-to "sit back and watch your enemy die slowly" status so I'd love for poison to be a more proactive status that forces you to keep up the pressure to make full use of its potential

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Are albinaurics immune to poison? I've tried poison mist on the Mohgwyn albinaurics. I've tried serpent bow and arrows on the albinauric archers in Ordina. It doesn't seem to be proccing.

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what if you wanted to make a cool poison build for pvp, but god said neutralizing boluses x99

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You got poison normal stuff lasts a while
Venom/Deadly poison the strong stuff lasts less but twice as deadly usually applied by a jar that venoms/deadly poisons you as well.
Then you got the perfume which is essentially ds2 poison more dangerous than rot.

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this better then bleed and frost in some cases, against light load roll spammers it's the best since you can still damage from the poison as some times the effect still connects.

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If poison had some kind of extra effect that wasn't pure damage it would be much more viable. It's not *useless* but pales in comparison to pure damage or a status effect like bleed and frost which can do all of poison's damage at once. Something like reducing enemy resistance/damage/stamina/stance regen would make it worthwhile. Or if they just gave the player character the damaging clouds that every other NPC gets so it's both direct damage and over time.

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First: why is poison so incredibly weak
And second: why is incantation poison (and rot) stronger? Faith is already OP.

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You also have a weak poison type that doesn't do %MaxHP but fix damage per proc.

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Pls more poison incantations

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tfw your opponent only has a few seconds left, lose hope and give up trying to fight

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I feel like poison is seriously underrated in pvp. People either ignore it, and you get free chip damage, or they try to cure it immediately. If they go for the latter, you can usually get a free hit using a ranged attack or with a weapon that's good at chasing people down.

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Accidental likes by missing the replies link. I want to retract it. My enemies want me to retract the poison mwa ha ha ha.

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Does anyone know if poison and deadly poison stack?

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They knew poison was so bad in this game, for the enemies that use it, they had to give them a strong damage tick while you're in the cloud.

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DS2 was the only one where poison wasn't completely useless.

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Whats the name of those things in the dragonbarrow that spew poison and have a one shot grab attack where they scream in your ear? Those are missing

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This page still states Coil Shield as dealing regular poison, but update 1.07 made it do deadly poison

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Need the butterfly set in this game

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Elden Beast is missing from Poison Immune bosses. Even though that should be obvious to us gamers as it is a god lol

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It’s so cool they made poison from Elden Ring a real thing

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I miss the poison being purple :(

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Does poison help you keep the poise damage up or not ? Would be helpfull on some bosses

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Omen are missing from the list of enemies vulnerable to poison. Even in the shunning grounds and Leyndell catacombs they go down easily from two of the three poison types available to the player and it doesn't take much for it to kick in. I haven't tried poison spraymist on them.
Also," banished knights (late game)" shouldn't be on the immune to poison list, they are not immune to it. I've been using poison arrows on the same knights at Farum Azula every time I reset or die. I don't know how anyone could mistake them for being immune to poison when it's pretty much the opposite. They don't even have a high resistance to it. Serpent and poisonbone arrows work just fine on them.

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I would like to ask if anyone knows a way to apply something like poison without dealing any damage.
For example can you ally the effect with the parry skill on enemys.
I want to know since I'm doing a run with only the soljars of fortune and want a pacifist way of getting them without cheating.

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As a fun extra bit of info: If you use the Pest/Kindred of Rot spirit ash you can buff its damage by poisoning something near it.

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I think that would be great if regular poison could stack up to 2-3 times with timer reset
It would make Kindred of Rot's Exultation be more consistent and also adds up into rogue / warlock fantasy
And also I'd like to see more poison self-inflicting tools

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I've had a quick look at the comments but only as far as August. Someone asks if deadly poison and poison can be inflicted at the same time with one reply saying yes another saying no. I don't have an ARC build I do use serpent and poisonbone arrows also poisonbone darts for additional damage but whenever if tried to proc poison with the poisonbone arrows on an enemy I've already poisoned with serpent arrows it doesn't seem to take, definitely no miasma to show it's worked and no HP bar ticking down. Can anyone who knows for sure say for definite one way or another?

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Poison is easy to proc against big health pool enemies and makes kill them faster like using black fireball in order to decrease their hp. In pvp, it may be a nuisance because it's a slow hp burn but it's still very effective as a pressuring tool. If you're making a status effect build then poison is one of the reliable tools to apply.

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good for pressuring in pvp and then punishing if they try to use a bolus

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Is it possible to trigger deadly poison when target is already poisoned with regular one?
Asking for a friend

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The Elden Ring Reforged mod adds a nice little effect to Poison that I think is really interesting: it reduces your status resistances for the duration. It tweaks other stuff, but just adding the resistance debuff to Poison would be a cool addition for the base game/future FromSoft titles - makes Poison stand out as something more than just a weaker Toxic/Rot.

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average scarlet rot over poison debater vs average just use both fan

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investing arcane for extra poison buildup is mostly pointless, its scaling should be improved to give arcane builds another outlet besides bleed.

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Although poison does partially scale with the enemy's HP, that flat +7 in the formula makes much stronger on enemies with smaller amounts HP. Or to think of it another way, unfortunately poison becomes less useful as you progress further into the game.

For example, the total poison damage against:
3,000 health: (7 + 0.0007 * 3000) * 90 = 819 (27.3%)
10,000 health: (7 + 0.0007 * 10000) * 90 = 1260 (12.6%)
20,000 health: (7 + 0.0007 * 20000) * 90 = 1890 (9.45%)

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I miss ds2 poison :(

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Right now I'm on a playthrough of a character who is a Status build (so they make use of Poison, Bleed, Scarlet Rot, Frost and Madness), for the most part I've been using Poison now and it's proven to be pretty useful. The DoT isn't much, but it's plenty to eat away at boss health bars while they don't allow you to attack them due to either aspects of certain fights or due to their aggression. Also the Poisonous Mist AoW does a very good job at getting Poison procs.

A good use that I found for it was against bosses with adds, against O'Neil I Poisoned him right away and dealt with the crossbow men he summoned, between the time I got the Poison proc and the last of his first wave of summons was dealt with he had lost almost 1,000 HP. The other big thing that I found was that the synergy with Scarlet Rot is HUGE, if you get both on your target they're taking an alarming amount of DoT.

My primary Poison setup is dual Poison Spears (Cross-Naginata and Spear, both +8), this gives you good reach to hit enemies to Poison them while still getting okay damage. I was able to shred Ghiza at RL52 thanks to that. Plus you get the amazing Spear power-stance moveset with the Cross-Naginata's superior light attacks.

Also there have been times where Poison strait up saved my ass by finishing off an enemy who was chasing me and could have probably killed me otherwise.

Another benefit to Poison is that the Affinity on either Strength/Arcane or Dexterity/Arcane builds that level the two stats evenly the damage reduction isn't that bad, typically about 7% if you're using a weapon that innately favors either Strength or Dexterity, hell some weapons lose very little AR when compared to Keen/Heavy, on a Dex/Arc build the Butchering Knife and Estoc only lose a single point of AR when using Poison/Bleed as opposed to Keen. Then there's weapons like the Iron Greatsword for Str/Arc which is STRONGER than Heavy at 45/18/45 (Str/Dex/Arc), and if two-handed outperforms Occult.

This does mean that Poison won't do much against smaller enemies as they'll likely die before they get Poisoned, however it also does mean that your damage output against bosses isn't crippled as much as it was in previous games (in DS2 it was more like 15% or more less AR).

Yes this also applies to the Bleed Affinity, but Bleed is broken at this point and somewhat cheap.

Overall from my experience so far Poison isn't as bad as it's made out to be, it's no DS2 Poison (the gold standard for Poison), but it's pretty good and doesn't feel ANYWHERE near as cheap as Bleed, I will say that it could use a slight buff. I just wish that there were more Ashes of War that gave weapons the Poison Affinity by default, I know that this becomes a non-issue when I can obtain the Black Whetblade, however I have to get through Radahn to obtain that, meaning that I'm stuck with Poisonous Mist and Poison Moth Flight until then. That is what I'd argue is the biggest thing holding Poison back.

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For those wondering I tested Poison and Deadly Poison today. I asked about getting my results double checked on the discord but… anyway…

Serpentbone + 24 and Poison Shamshir +24 with 25 Arcane on the Volcano Manor troll.

3 hits of either weapon proc’d poison. 10 for Sham, 21 per tick for Serpentbone.

2 hits of Sham + 1 Serpentbone yielded 21 tic poison. My other test was Poison Moth Flight which finalized the damage as 2377 for Poison and 2533 for Deadly Poison.

I’d test more but dealing with this community today has me close to uninstalling. Hope this helps someone looking to play with Poison. Also, fun fact, offhand Serpentbone combos surprisingly well after every second swing of the Shamshir.

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If I'm using two weapons, one with regular poison and one with deadly poison, how is it determined which kind will be applied ?
I don't think there are two separate bars so is it the swing that procs poison even even if i filled 99% of the bar with the other type ?

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For those of you complaining that Deadly Poison deals less damage than regular poison and suggesting that it's duration be increased to compensate, you seem to be missing the best part about Deadly poison. Since it only lasts 30 seconds it can proc the Mushroom Crown and Servant of Rot Exultation buffs much more frequently. Procing regular poison on an enemy gives the buffs for 20 seconds and then makes you wait over a minute before you can start applying it again vs deadly poison which only makes you wait 10 seconds.

This kinda makes the Serpentbone Blade a less OP Dex version of ROB that can be found a fair bit earlier in the game.

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There are a lot of subtle things that hurt poison. A number of weapons have inherent bleed and are infusable to get more bleed, but poison is almost never infusable. Bleed has special effects like bloodflame that keeps up the pressure even when you have to time your attacks in addition to dealing damage. The flies deal damage while poison mist only inflicts poison. All of this on top of taking a long time to deal moderate total damage. I would say that the build rate of poison should be higher for all weapons, poison moth flight should deal more damage than a bleed proc when it hits a poisoned enemy, deadly poison should have a longer duration so it deals the same total damage as poison but in less time, and the servant of rot incantations could use arcane scaling on the dragon communion seal

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from soft hates poison builds

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Wouldn’t it be cool if poison reduced flask healing by 50%? Just saying…

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Poison does seem generally weaker than Rot- scarlet rot typically has higher damage, which is just more convenient. But what could be neat is if it had a similar effect to Toxic in Dark Souls, maybe reducing stamina regeneration by 20% so it has PVP value, and making enemies slightly more poise breakable.

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Poison is seriously disappointing as a status in this game, seriously if you can use Scarlet Rot in a situation instead you will almost always use Rot over poison, and maybe use poison if you can stack it on top. The spells for poison are very underwhelming too, and there's barely any weapons with innate Poison, even Deadly poison is meh because it last for so little.
Maybe Poison should have some kind of effect so it isn't just weak Rot, like maybe lowering non-physical defenses, or gives an attack debuff, something to make it worth using, or at the very least give us more variations in ways to apply it. Like Moth Flight is a good start, next could be a weapon that has the exultation effect when inflicting poison, or something!

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is it possible to inflict both regular and deadly poison at the same time?

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I feel like poison should have a different effect to differentiat it from Rot/Toxic, maybe have it be more debilitating like debuffing AR and Defense more effectively than Frost.

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I feel like poison should have a different effect to differentiat it from Rot/Toxic, maybe have it be more debilitating like debuffing AR and Defense more effectively than Frost.

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I feel like poison should have a different effect to differentiat it from Rot/Toxic, maybe have it be more debilitating like debuffing AR and Defense more effectively than Frost.

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Made a debuff/poison assassin character, been having a lot of fun running around and using poison mist to whittle everything down. Once I get the scarlet rot spell its gonna be over for these mfers in the Lands Between

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Does poison do anything for hitting cap? Or does it only do the dot and buildup

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Did some testing on the banished knight outside of the Dragon Communion Church in Caelid

Poisonbone Darts, Poison Pots, Poison Mist (Incantation) and Poisoned infused weapons will deal 8 damage per tick

Poisonous Mist (the ash of war) deals 10 per tick

Poison Spraymist (the perfume) deals 25 per tick, but I have a feeling this one is a shorter duration than the others. (Deadly Poison)

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Does deadly poison take priority over regular poison? IE one weapon that does regular and another that does lethal while powerstancing

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Poison should have a slow debuff, so we add "slow" status to the game and buff poison same time.

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how about serpent arrows? IS it deasly poison as well?

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Is there a list of "deadly poison" Weapons?


I only know serpentbone blade and venomous fang.

But claw range is so **** I have trouble with some bosses, it's like their collision box is bigger than their hit box. It's so annoying.

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Poison is inferior to scarlet rot, but can be stacked alongside it for extra damage. You’ll notice when you see an enemy’s health tick down twice in a second.

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There actually seems to be some kind of motion value going on with poison buildup. Golem's Poison Halberd +25, 60 arcane, buildup: 192
R1 did not instantly proc poison on my friend, he said it brought him to about 75% iirc.
After the buildup was fully drained, I hit him with a fully charged, warcry-augmented R2 that instantly procced poison on him (it also killed him lol).
We did not test any other attacks.
I had Axe Talisman and Roar Talisman, though I doubt they had any effect on the poison buildup I still thought I'd mention it for posterity.

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I feel like poison needs to be modified. Maybe not make it as damaging as scarlet rot. But instead poison could apply a damage debuff to those afflicted by it. That way it is not ignorable. This could buff turtle builds considerably but it would make poison stand out and see more use.

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So I do not understand why poison spray mist is such a ridiculous outlier not only among the other poison weapons but also Scarlett rot.
For reference,
Deadly poison is better than normal poison. This is because even though it has a shorter duration its damage is twice that of normal poison so in the same 90 seconds deadly poison will do twice the damage.
Scarlett rot is better than deadly poison in the same 90 seconds.
Deadly Scarlett rot is better than deadly rot in the same 90 seconds.
Finally and very strangely Poison Spray Mist specifically is the best in the game in the same 90 seconds. It is also far more effective if the bosses are at lower Health values. With the highest base tick damage of any DOT in Elden Ring.
I just don't understand...

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Pretty useless mid to end game as scarlet rot is just better.

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For easy comparison I calculated the damage per tic of each poison with numbers of max hp at 500,1000,2000 and 5000 in that order.
normalpoison: 7.35 - 7.7 - 8.4 - 10.5 (90sec)
Poisonous mist ash of war: 8.5 - 9 - 10 - 13 (40sec)
fetid pot: 12.7 - 13.4 - 14.8 - 19 (30sec)
serpentboneblade/Venomousfang: 14.7 - 15.4 - 16.8 - 21 (30sec)
Poison spraymist: 22.05 - 23.1 - 25.2 - 31.5 (30sec)
Scarlet rot: 15.9 - 16.8 - 18.6 - 24 (90sec)
Deadly Scarlet rot: 14.65 - 16.3 - 19.6 - 29.5 (90sec)

I haven't done player testing but I have a few assumptions.
1)Normal poison and deadly poison can't be stacked.
2)With whatever formula you initiate the poison proc, its duration bar can be contributed by any other poison. If I am right on this then by initiating the proc with either a fetid pot or poison spraymist then maintaining the duration with any normal poison infused weapon you can achieve damage like deadly poison or scarlet rot.

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what weapons/spells apply deadly poison? and does poison stack with rot or even other type of poison? Like can you apply both poison and deadly poison at the same time?

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How does the game manage dual wielding different poison types? Such as offhand Venomous Fang and main hand poison infused sword?

Is the applied poison based on whichever weapon procced it, Or does it default to stronger/weaker poison?

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Needs to either 1) Stack X times or 2) deal 0.25 (up from 0.07) of max health per second to have any meaningful effect in both pve and pvp. Poison thematically and as a game mechanic is actually well implemented, but like always FS fails to balance the damage. It is way low and seriously needs a buff.

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any item that causes self poison?

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if there's a game with poison and you can't stack it, is it even poison???

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I was asked if there also is an simple math for toatal damage so here you go:
normal poison: 630 + 6,3% maxHP over 90sec
Poisonous Mist Ash of War: 320 +4% maxHP over 40sec
Fetid Pot: 360 + 4,2% maxHP over 30sec
Serpentbone Blade/ Venomous Fang: 420 + 4,2% maxHP over 30sec
Venomous Fang with poison infusion: 1260 + 12,6% maxHP over 90sec
Poison Spraymist: 630 + 6,3% maxHP over 30sec
Scarlet Rot: 1170 + 29,7% maxHP over 90sec

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What stat give poison bonus? Is it arcane now or still dex like previous games?

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With a Serpent Bow +10 & 50 Arcane, it seems that poison is applied faster than with other bow-types according to my own tests. It also gives a small poison build-up to all other types of arrows.

It takes 2 shots to apply a 9dps for 90secs poison with either Poisonbone or Serpent arrows. The difference in damage between them is marginal at best, also. (305 vs 314, surprise hit) 1 Mighty Shot to apply poison with both types of arrows.
It takes 8-11 shots with Bone, Magicbone, Bloodbone and Rotbone Arrows to apply the same poison (Bleed and Scarlet Rot were applied before the Poison procced). 5-6 shots using Mighty Shot.

The increased build-up only applies to the Serpent Bow with Poison-inducing arrows, it takes the same amount of shots as any other bows to apply other status effects. (Tested with Sleep, Frost, Bleed, Rot ...)

It takes 4 (serpent)/5 (poisonbone) shots to also apply a 9dps for 90secs poison using a Horn Bow +23 and a Harp Bow +0. 5(serpent) & 6(poisonbone) shots with the Barrage skill.

With this information, we can conclude that the Serpent Bow's description means that it adds a small poison build-up to any arrow types you shoot with it, and a larger build-up for poison-infused arrows. The Serpent Arrows are wrongfully labelled as dealing Heavy Poison while actually only applying regular poison.

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After testing all ways i could poison enemys here are now my final results:
normal poison: 7 + 7* for 90 sec
Poisonous Mist Ash of War: 8 + 10* for 40 sec
Fetid Pot: 12 + 14* for 30 sec
Serpentbone Blade/ Venomous Fang: 14 + 14* for 30 sec
Venomous Fang with poison infusion: 14 + 14* for 90 sec
Poison Spraymist: 21 + 21* for 30 sec
Scarlet Rot: 13 + 33* for 90 sec
*The second number is the damage bonus per 10000 Max health of an enemy. It will only scale to full numbers starting with 0 at low max hp.
All this Dots tick once per second but sometimes an tick is missed.
In the following i will list the total damage against an boss with 2000 and 10000 health and at last the theoretical maximum hp an enemy can have to die in one go.
normal poison: 756 / 1260 / 672
Poisonous Mist Ash of War: 400 / 720 / 333
Fetid Pot: 444 / 780 / 375
Serpentbone Blade/ Venomous Fang: 504 / 840 / 438
Venomous Fang with poison infusion: 1512 / 2520 / 1441
Poison Spraymist: 756 / 1260 / 672
Scarlet Rot: 1764 / 4140 / 1664
Those values should give you an better overview on how usefull those poisons are for ambushes or bossfights.
if not listed in any other category asume you will only do normal poison (I tested consumables, weapons, shields, bow and arrows, spells, the other poison ash of wars, and spirit ashes). If anyone finds another exception feel free to add.

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Does coil shield do regular poison or deadly poison?

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Serpent arrows don't get the deadly poison as per the description. Bug?

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Is it me, or do enemies develop an immunity to poison if you try to cheese them too much with it? I just tried to kill the huge bear in Uld, north of the Church of Vows, and I managed to poison it two times in a row (with crafted poison bone arrows), but I couldn't poison it a third time.

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Here are the test results on Godrick soldier and Altus carriage trolls in ng+
standart poison (pot/arrow/incantations etc.): 7/11 for 90 sec
fetid pot: 12/20 for 30 sec
perfume: 22/34 for 30 sec
serpent (Katana and claws but not bow): 14/22 for 30 sec
poison mist ash of war: 8/14 for 40 sec
scarlet rot: 16/33 for 90 sec
Notes:
- All poison scales with enemy max hp
- scarlet rot scales the best with enemy hp and will surpass perfume at high hp enemies
- poison mist ash of war apllies its stronger poison on both weapon attacks and fog cloud
- if you infuse poison mist weapons with poison and then aplly the skill you will only proc the normal weaker poison on attacks
- I tried to test the base damage on goats(low max hp) those are 7/12/21/14/8/13
May the rot goddess be with you.

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The formula for a full cycle of Standard Poison is (7 + ((Max HP * 7) / 100)) * 90. Which means it deals 0,7% Max HP + 7 flat per second and last 90 seconds.
The formula for a full cycle of Deadly Poison is (14 + ((Max HP * 14) / 100)) * 30. Basically twice the standard damage but lasting only 30 sec.
There a very few items with a different formula and duration. Like the Poison Spraymist, which have three times the Standard Poison damage and last 30 sec.
If somebody wants to edit the info above.

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This is what I found in my own tests regarding the 3 poison levels mentioned below:

Level 1
This is the normal poison damage that is applied by most of all the sources of poison application in game. While the damage is variable, the only consistent thing is the duration which is always 90 seconds.

Level 2
This is the lethal poison that is applied by venomous fang, serpentbone blade and fetid pot. The damage for this again varies but I noticed that it seems to be roughly double the damage of the normal level 1 poison per tick. This poison however only lasts for 30 seconds. So while the duration is smaller the DPS should be way higher if you can consistently reapply it. This has more synergy with the kindred of rots exultation talisman as well since you are able to reapply the poison to refresh the buff faster.

Level 3
It has no special description to indicate it and the only source of this that I have found so far is the poison spraymist perfume. The damage per tick seems to be roughly 3 times that of a level 1 poison tick. The duration is also 30 seconds.


Special Interactions:
While the venomous fang usually deals 30s of level 2 lethal poison, infusing it with a poison ash of war causes it to retain the level 2 lethal poison damage per tick but also get the 90 second duration of a level 1 normal poison. I dont know if this is a bug or it is intended.

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some findings i found (character have 30 arcane, tested on blackflame monk on caelid divine tower):


Using serpentbone blade +16,
-took 7 hits to proc ( weapon damage is 299 consistently (1st light attack only) )
-7th hit (the hit that starts the poison DoT) becomes 318
- attacks during the poison DoT becomes 318.


so it increased my damage by additional 19 damage?


I also tested on enemies with shield: poison procs when the enemy is blocking seems to decrease damage per tick (from 9 to 7 using poison infused weapon)

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Update on my three levels of poison comment, the Venomous Fang actually always ticks at 17, but when I infused it poison, it ticks for MUCH longer. Doing about 600 total damage without infusion and closer to 1500 with infusion.

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After some quick testing, poison seems to do roughly 600 damage + 5% Max HP over its full duration.

The 3 different levels of poison seem to all do similar damage, they just do their damage over a shorter period of time.

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The damage from the poison is stacked. Tested on the fire giant. With 1 stack, 32 damage, then about 100

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So there seem to be at least 3 "levels" of poison that I've found

Standard, 7 points per tick
- poison throwing knives. Poison mist, etc

Heavy Poison Damage, 14 points per tick
- venomous fang, serpent arrows

Best Poison?, 24 points per tick
- poison Spraymist Perfume

I infused the Venomous Fang with poison and saw 17 points per tick. So possible multiple "levels" of poison can coexist, at least when triggered at the same time?

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so i noticed that a weapon i have that has "heavy poison buildup" does more poison damage per tick over a shorter period of time VS just normal poison from like poisonbone darts. I Wonder if this is like a hidden "toxic" i odnt see anywhere mentioning this, but there is a difference between Poison and Heavy/Deadly Poison

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Does anyone know if poison damage will prevent bosses/enemies from regaining posture? Or slow it down in any way? Could be great for strength builds if after poisoning a boss you could back off for longer periods and focus on heavy attacks

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encountered a bug when I died from poison in stillwater cave. My death spot is not showing.

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Poison was buffed? I tried the claws-serpent weapon. 17 damage per tick, 30s, total for 510 damage. And did the same 17 damage per tick both for troll and soldier, so not % based but flat value. Just 5 arcane points increased a bit noticeable the number of hits needed to poison (from 6-8 to 4-5 hits maybe? Didn't test in detail), but poison damage remains the same.
Second try: 8 dps with poison arrows, same enemy. They are different poisons? Also normal arrows did not poison troll, or was nearly impossible, with poison bow that supposedly "grants free poison to normal arrows", but poison arrow procced with only 2-3 hits.

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Admittedly, this is essentially a rework of a post of mine from the DS3 poison entry:
They should change poison so that it procs faster, and changed it from a single DoT to a stacking effect where you can apply poison multiple times (each proc doing 4 HP/s, stacking up to 5 times or something of that sort) so that way a single Neutralizing Bolus out of 99x stack doesn't completely ruin one build's viability. Also reduce the # of Boluses you can carry to 5 or so, like the Dried Livers. Dried Livers are a great source of comparison because they are great at reducing caster damage, but don't completely negate their impact and they come in limited quantity. On top of that, making it a stacking effect could give it some differentiation from a Scarlet Rot build, where Scarlet Rot could be applied once (I mean once you’re infected, can you really get more infected?), does big DoT damage, but can be removed by 1 Preserving Bolus, whereas poison could be applied multiple times (higher the dosage of a poison, the more lethal), does low damage per application but stacks to do serious damage, and would need several Boluses to completely remove all stacks (maybe each Bolus could remove 1-2 applications or so). That could make Scarlet Rot sort of an all-in build, and make poison the slow, creeping death build. Lastly, make critical hits with poison/rot weapons automatically apply a DoT!!!!! It’s absolutely crazy that I could drive a poisoned dagger directly into someone’s chest and it doesn’t also poison them. The tools to make Poison builds good and fun are there!

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Poison damage is definitely scalable. The wiki liss 5, and ive done 25+ per tick with 30 arcane against bosses. It cant be reapplied while active but there is no cooldown on applying it, so poison melee for bosses could be a thing especially in coop

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Not sure if it's based on arcane or the poison value on gear, but poison now does variable damage. I've done as low as 8 per tick and as high as 24 per tick, with the % differences seemingly separate from rot

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There are summon spirits that do poison damage, at least one for sure. Used them on Godrick and just cheesed him. They literally took away 90 percent of his health with the one status effect.

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Thought I'd share some findings here.
My testing setup: Trainer to modify stats, Bandit starting gear, Poison Arrows.
Method: Augment stats, rest at Grace, walk into Margit's boss fight

Base Dex/Arcane: 7 shots to proc poison, 9 damage per tick
Base Dex/99 Arcane: 7 shots to proc poison, 9 damage per tick
99 Dex/Base Arcane: 6 shots to proc poison, 9 damage per tick
99 Dex/99 Arcane: 6 shots to proc poison, 9 damage per tick

it would appear that base stats do not affect poison buildup (to a worthwhile degree) nor the tick damage. FWIW, the shot damage + poison damage seemed to hover around 1100 every time.

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I hope they would rework poison in this game. Ds3 poison was a slight inconvenience at best, sure it has its uses but it seemed very underpowered. Maybe with the addition of the posture system being poisoned will make stamina/posture recover slower if at all in pve for more reposts on enemies with higher health pools.

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I was hoping they would’ve buffed poison in this one, but it seems like the same thing from Ds3. Sure it had its uses, but it just seemed like more of an inconvenience than anything to be poisoned. You could just counter it with a blessed weapon in your offhand. I’m hoping that if they’re gonna keep it this way that it’ll also affect your stamina and posture recovery or something. Maybe in PvE it’ll allow more ripostes on bosses and enemies with higher health pools.

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