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I understand why getting invaded can be frustrating, even more if you're noob but Elden Ring is game that everyone should be able to finish alone without "buddy". Play offline and you'll not be invaded or git good and stop crying how bad you are. Invaders or ping, if you have skill non of that matter. Easy

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for the sage of pvp community , please add Ping check option.
no more 300+ ping allow to join , no more get hit now but get pain later.
no more un-animate sliding character , no more teleport backstab.
it's not fun for both side.

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I decided to try my dex character with low poise in the arena and kept getting matched up with hyper aggressive poise players, I got mad then switched to MY poise monster and no longer had any issues.
It felt good, really-really good.

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I wish there was more buffs you could use on pve as an invader that aren't gated behind being a faith build. Making a 3v1 more even by souping up nearby enemies is so awesome when it works

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The best fun you can have in Elden Ring PvP is as followed:
Record yourself dying in hilarious ways.
Record yourself defeating your opponent in hilarious ways.
Take scenic snapshots of your character via Gesture emojis.
Post your footages on to social media platforms.
Share your Character Creation ideas.
Share your Build stats and how to improve it for PvP.

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Ugh invaders. Take a bath or smth

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Invaders aren’t just sht. They are THE sht

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Invaders need to embrace the fact that they are meant to be outnumbered and at a disadvantage instead of crying about how it’s unfair. Just go to the Colosseum for fair duels.

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What's the stupidest example of gatekeeping you've ever encountered?

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Dude imagine how much of a nerd u gotta be to engage in pvp in a souls game lol just read some comments here...seamless bros stay winning

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Some MAIDENLESS NUMBSKULL used a weapon with BLEED when i invaded them, utter VIRGIN behavior. Some FESCES-EATING DINGUS threw something at me and i was poisoned INSTANTLY, they must have been hacking, there's NO other explanation!!!! Also, Some Total DOUCHEWAD used DOUBLE SLASH and i somehow died to it, so I'm going to make an EDUCATESD GUES and say that it's WAY TOO OVERPOWEIRED, and anyone who uses it would rather INSTAKILL all the BOSSES instead of acgtually PLAYING THE GAME!!!!!!!!

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ER PvP is weirdly my favorite Souls pvp despite the multiplayer systems being objectively inferior to the past games (except maybe OG Demon's Souls).

Maybe it's the fact that you can make literally anything work in Elden Ring, maybe it's the first time I actually tried magic in a souls game (and loved it), maybe the time to kill is much faster and less mind-numbingly long, idk why but I love this game

Obviously there are a lot of stuff that needs some tweaking, but it's still been really really fun to me, even two years in

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when im invading am i supposed to fight the other invaders? they start fighting me a lot of the time i thought we were on the same team?

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Can you heal world enemies when you invade? I have seen cleanrot knights can buff you so that wouldn’t surprise me

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This is my favorite comment section. Love how people get salty all over a game

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so apparently u lose runes if u die while invading? just lost over 2 mil to that. i just did not expect that

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Bring gravelording back. Prioritize people that already summoned phantoms and bloat their world with sanguine nobles. It's the only possible solution at this point.

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Anyone who goes to this page to say invasions are "toxic" ... hate to say it, I really do, actually. It pains me inside, knowing how annoying it is to hear. But goddamn you people need to stop being garbage and git gud you ****ing scrubs, I miss when soulsbourne wasn't infested with people who think it's Far Cry for ****'s sake. There isn't solo PVE and Coop PVE, there is solo PVE and multiplayer. You want to play with people through the game, you're gonna play against people through the game. A deliberate design choice that has remained the same for longer than a decade.

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Murky and pkcs seem pleasant compared to ER meta

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I’ve done all invasion level brackets but the variety of opponents you get at 139 max upgrade is my favorite.

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dont invade people. people like pve. there is a colosseum now. do it there.

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Contrary to what folks think, twinking can still be nasty, you just gotta nerf overleveled phantoms by invading at level RL1-5 and not RL20-30. Get yourself a passive health regen build, volcano pots, a thunderbolt dagger for the occasional runners and you won't even need to rely on meme weapons or duped items. Just treat those fights as Spear church invasions and you'll never lose.

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Contrary to what folks think, twinking can still be nasty, you just gotta nerf overleveled phantoms by invading at level RL1-5 and not RL20-30. Get yourself a passive health regen build, volcano pots, a thunderbolt dagger for the occasional runners and you won't even need to rely on meme weapons or duped items. Just treat those fights as Spear church invasions and you'll never lose.

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is there anyone on PC who doesnt just sit in an area with a closed door with their max level summon

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good lord invading on PC is misery. every single person is just getting carried through the game by their stupid level 700 wizard friends but ALSO get a blue within seconds of being invaded. get staggered by a stray spell, instantly take a double colossal jumping L1 and die. those content creators on PS5 have it fkn easy and they know it. no radahns with brass shields and weapons they dont meet the reqs for on PC. nope, for everyone of those on PS5, PC gets someone who has glitched themselves out of bounds to farm runes, two liurnia ganks, and an instant deathblight cheater.

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DS1: dark bead, and chaos infusion/furysword scaling off humanity instead of your actual level, made twinking way too easy and unfair
DS2: soul memory lmao you could invade forest of fallen giants or heide's with a +10 poison weapon
DS3: the tamest twinking has been, but dark hand and prisoner's chain were still completely unfair to new players
ER: go ahead and invade stormveil with endgame armor, maxed flasks, unlimited meat dumplings golem arrows and star shards because it wont matter when the max level phantom takes 53 damage from you, poises through it and hits you with moonveil L2R2, killing you instantly

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Is there a way to guarantee you end up matched with somebody equal to your level? Wouldn't wanna screw over lower level characters

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i guess tumblebuffing is back somehow? two invaders in a row. one made his magma whip candlestick (L2 lava pools included) inflict sleep and another made both his greatbow rain of arrows and his spinning slash twinblade do frost

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Souls PvP boomer here (lol imagine) and I have not touched this game in almost 2 years (I quit a few months after its release as I was pretty letdown with the game) and ngl, I'm kind of disappointed this PvP never really improved. I thought about returning with the announcement of the DLC and kind of coped that the DLC would fix a lot of things or increase the PvP player limit. Doesn't seem like that is the case. Shame! Cannot believe I kinda miss dealing with the sweaty unscaled bow glitching gankers from Dark Souls 3. Any tryhard PvPers reading this tho, just play a different game my man. FromSoft has rolled over for the majority and the casual players. Here on out these games are just going to keep getting easier and more watered down and favored for people not like yourself. Save yourself the trouble my fellow red friend. Just read the comments below of the bad players complaining about invaders.

These people should have seen the Undead Burg twinks in DS1 and the Scraping Spear/Stormruler invaders from Demons Souls if they think they have it hard in this comically easy game...

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Do you get runes for helping someone beat a boss, one time i helped a rando kill the fire giant and i swear i got some runes for it not like a lob but some. Am just crazy?

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Just got invaded in Leyndell by a bull goat tryhard who immediately popped radiant baldachin's blessing and tried to crouch poke me with serpent hunter.

Another red and blue spawned in and ganked him to death, red bro dropped the blue bro something and severed.

That's cool

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There’s really no such thing as a meta PVP in Elden Ring, given the amount of Weapon classes, infusions and Ash of Wars, that you can build from scratch. Whether it be roped greases, perfumes or pots every small detail has a quirk that will outshine any player who rely on low-effort Moonveil or Rivers of Blood.

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are some people actually so bad at the game they have to go on a low level character to kill little kids in storm veil??

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All builds are acceptable and viable and what is done with said builds is a matter of skill

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if a weapon is nerfed in pvp is it also nerfed in co-op?

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for those who say ps5 online is just as bad as pc: on ps5, can invaders turn themselves invincible and then instantly deathblight you on a family share account so that it doesn't matter if they get banned? genuine question idk how common or easy it is for people to cheat and not get banned

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someone tell me wtf is a gank

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Poke or it's unviable. Nice balance there trashsoft.

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Until from makes it so invaders are an optional thing for taunter tongue users only, this game online will stay shitty. In the meantime: block every invader, activate white cypher ring, summon your max level bros and most important use the Seamless mod if you can! These are subhumans, who put their irl frustration into ppl online, losers.

Do this, and have fun! Peace

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Remember when the host can have like 3 summons and 2 blue phantoms, while there is like 3 invaders and 2 area defenders or something like that and if your lucky fight clubs or like have a mini scaled war, or just s giant blood bath. Good times.

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please nerf poke weapons!! Its making people uncreative

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wouldn't be so bad if it didn't favor people with the worst internet known to mankind

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Pure mages are annoying, they often waste your time spamming rancor, comet, moonblade, and star shower(or SoR) and just running away until time runs out since they keep spamming AoE’s when they get close before bloodhound stepping away. Then the time runs out because they keep spamming the same spells but you can never get close to them before pointing down at you because they couldn’t kill you with there one brain cell spamming technique. Mages that use melee are fine though

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Poke simulator. Uber trash pvp, thankfully the pve is mid.

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Hey it’s me the strong red guy that killed you hey kid hey

Hey so

Stabbing people is cool you should try it
Go on stab someone. Go on.
Do it.

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Me on my way to relax after a hard day by playing the one game that will cause unrestricted rage for the next 5 hours

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honestly if you want to start your day off reading something miserable, just read the comments here instead of something like the news. neither side is happy with this garbage online they know will never get fixed instead of just playing something else with the pvp that they like

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Let the toxicity grow and fester. This is where it all begins...

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As a overleved phantom who has butchered some invaders, I’m sorry. I only wanted to play with my friend that just picked up elden ring and I have nothing against invaders. Once again I’m sorry

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If you like to invade you owe no apologies to the crybabies. Once in a great while I'll encounter a host worth sparing. Other than that, beat down, rinse , repeat. Also, I love the over level ganks early game. Farm them and it sets you up with more runes and rune srcs you will ever need to enjoy rest of game . Pvp dies out predominantly anyway after level 30 til 125. So have fun, get ready to lose some , and ignore the rest of the bs or complainers. There are so many great early game weapons to use too.

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I want every ganker and offline-only baby to understand that invasion is a part of these games for a reason. A good reason. Yes it is frustrating sometimes. Yes you will get angry at the BS some (most) invaders do. Twinks and laglords are never fun. I used to only ever go through Farron Swamp offline because I hated getting invaded. But you know what happens when you keep getting invaded? Eventually, once, maybe only by luck, you will win. You will beat the invader. And it will feel really good. You'll be more confident the next time. And with enough time you'll start to win more than you lose and maybe even have fun doing it. It's the same challenge and learning curve as the PvE. Once upon a time, even the trolls in Limgrave were a serious threat to all of us. You keep fighting them, and you learn, and then they aren't scary anymore. Don't hide behind your level 700 buddy(ies). Don't pull the ethernet cord. Don't jump off a cliff. Don't play offline. Just try. Please. You might be surprised.

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As an invader myself at level 450 something, I truly do appreciate those of you who are simply going through the game or messing around. I can fight 3 people and win in most scenarios, but it just isn’t the same when you invade players that have a sense of humor and fun vs those who are clearly rabid. I get that I am the bad guy to you, but the people that wait for invaders in one spot just to spam as many spells as possible and resummon when one dies are the bad guys to me. But the cool guys are cool keep being cool cool guys. Cool. Dislike if you agree.

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skibidi pop bop brrrr

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As a fellow invader, if you can't take a 2v1 and start running away, you deserve a tbag

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If you, the "bad red man", cry about getting ganked and losing or whatnot, don't invade. You were not invited. Go play in the arena, with the other special kids. Or is it 'cause you tried but couldn't beat anyone so you want to stomp on noobs? :'(

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Pvp invaders who can hard swap weapons during fights are simply amazing players. Just wanted to tip my hat. Just try to practice doing it. It is very difficult to do. They are best players in the souls series gaming community.

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Here is why pvp sucks. before level 30 is where action is .Some people like to invade. They invade. 75% of hosts have full twinked gear, gank, and max level twink helpers. Those phantoms get downscaled, but still have way too much advantage. So invaders Twink too. Then they actually invade the other 25% casual host player who hate pvp but summon their friends. They get slaughtered. So basically it's a circle of pain because of the summoned max level phantom scenario. Seems apparent little time is spent by the devs in the pvp area anymore. They got pve figured out and that is where they concentrate. If they change pvp mechanics, some group of players will get pissed off. To fix this, they must fix the max level phantom summoning scenario. But they are probably some of the most dedicated players to the game long term . I just think it is what it is and little adjustments are going to be made. If they turn off pvp. Their most dedicated core players to this game will be lost.

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*laughs in offline mode*
New co-op is going over to a friend’s house and standing behind them à la Titanic helm of ship scene to gently guide them through the game, revealing all the game-breaking secrets in tender whispers and where to get and upgrade the tankiest spirit summons.

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Remember when going from one bonfire to another one was a challange in souls games and when invaders were really a threat because you wanted to make it to the next bonfire.That was what was fun about invasions for both sides.ER feels like a participation trophy dumbed down easy version of souls. Pvp is the same way, an easy version of it for a wider audience.

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You should try RL 1-10 invasions. Not for the easy victories on low level hosts but for the most shameless overleveled phantoms you'll ever meet. It's something.

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Bad, lousy, substandart, not good, inferior, unsatisfactory, inadequate, uncacceptable, subpar, junky, raunchy, icky, cruddy, lame, lacking, wack, terrible, awful, trashy, poor

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Boss-threshold invaders are funny like, yeah you caught the Host off-guard. Congratulations? Host will probably go back, pick up their runes and summon again. A co-op player like me used to get annoyed until I stopped to think about it, especially when more than once the Host ends up summoning me again and we pick up like nothing had happened. I’ve met some nice, honorable invaders; I met invaders who were formerly a Host or fellow summon; I even had a couple of times when prior-invaders summoned me. Sadly enough, these encounters are only memorable because they’re few and far between. Pokey powerstancers? Big AOE enjoyers? Copper pennies in a jar.
Yeah, you invaded us before we could go through Rykard’s gate or while we were fighting DTS. We’re equipped for PVE and you’re equipped for PVP. So you spammed a spell or weapon skill with mega AOE. Glad you finally saw some action that made your brain light up like a Christmas tree. Meanwhile, I put down my summon sign and now and then discard a few rune arcs because my storage is full and a pesky message reminds me that I can’t store anymore. Life goes on, and when PVP dies out as it eventually will because the system is flawed or because a good slice of the multiplayer community is dysfunctional, PVE enjoyers will continue to derive joy from this and other titles. Some might recall an unforgettable encounter with an invader (a good experience and a hostile invasion are not mutually exclusive), but I doubt anyone will be able to tell a dingusbingus from a bussybuster because they mostly wore the same armor, used the same weapon art, and celebrated in the same spastic way.

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I’m gonna switch to friendly invasions, dropping items and spreading general good vibes. I’m going in with pockets empty of runes and a goofy-looking character, just to make a random Host’s day. Am I going to get ganked? Probably. Do I care? Nope.

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The arena duels are either: You get matched up with some toxic sluglord who thinks they are funnny.
Or it's some person who has like 2000+ hours, and play like they have parkinsons or are only passive (sometimes both, and occasionally, all of the above).
Then theres the ever increasingly rare enjoyable duel, where neither of you are running from one another and you just start trying to style on the other.

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After reading a couple comments here I'm so glad I've been playing co-op on that mod from the start lol

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If you invade at low level and use rot or some cheap bs you bet I'll use all the tools I have at my disposal. There's some (very few) honest invaders, when I find em I usually don't fight if the host isn't a noob. Love you guys

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if you ****ing invade someone do run like a little b that just makes you look bad, because seeing someone with big beefy armour and running means you need help fighing the person and if you invade fight them dont run

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This. System. Is . Broken. Beyond. Repair. Either they bring back gravelording or they let it die entirely, and at this point i'd bet for the latter.

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This is for players who enjoy pvp. Other pvp problems aside, wonder how much pure blood knights medal kills mid level pvp as far as invasion frequency. It really dies mid level for me. My assumption is players use this when obtained about lvl 30. They go to moghs area, farm runes very easily and just add attributes to get to high level. Which will range them out of any mid level invader. I experience huge dropoff in invasions from about lvl 35 til 100+.

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I think radahn's battlezone, agheel lake, leyndell's outer walls, caria manor, mt gelmir's seethewater terminus, mountaintops's frozen lake, ordina town, etc. could be an opportunity to bring a 20-25 player free-for-all pvp zone, either deathmatch or king of the hill. It would be messy, it would be chaotic, but i WOULD come back for that, instead of this hot mess very few bothers with.

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Even people who are really good at souls pvp make ER pvp look so boring. Lure them around a corner and kill them all with stormhawk/black flame tornado for the 800th time. Golem arrow spam to knock them off a ledge. I miss when fights were actual FIGHTS.

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The best levels for PvP beginners is between Rune Level 1-20. Enemy attacks don’t really matter as much due your Flat Defense and damage negation. Just don’t upgrade your acquired weapons pass +2
If you have all of your gear maxed out and you’re ready for prime time, climb to Rune Level 150-200 with +25 weapons.

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ah, you are using black flame buff? wow, i'll have 160 damage against you, oh you also using bull-goat armor, well, my rp build is nothing against you. Thanks for fun gameplay.

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Whenever I see the word tryhard in this thread I know it's a fool's post. The idea anyone would invade and not try hard is one of the most idiotic waste of time notions playing a game. I guess invading and just letting the other TEAM win would be fun for maybe the village idiot. Winning=fun. Hence why most invasions are gank situations against a 3 vs 1 with max level helpers. The host wants to win. The tryhard term was created by players who hate pvp mainly because they can't win a fight against red guy in spite of having every in-game advantage in the book. Fromsodt Please put an option for these people to not allow invasions when summoning friends. Please let them just go away and play with themselves. I purely invade because I am at a disadvantage and its
the biggest challenge the game has to offer

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I am sorry to break it to you, invaders, but you were not invited by the host when they summoned a cooperator. You hijacked the furled finger link.

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This game's online is so bad lol. Tryhards everywhere, invaders who complain despite being the first invading at low level with endgame gear, etc.
If you're not a loser, but just a player who has a life, that wants to play with friends, do yourself a favor and get on seamless co-op mod.

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Hunting strangers trying to defend themselves is so relatable and true

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@Anonymous 03 Jan 2024
You must make a well-thought-out Build for PVP.
Then, understand how and what your Build needs to function properly for PVP.
The Build must have a main focus that's centered around Strength, Dexterity, Quality, Intelligence, Faith or Arcane.
Once you've decided on what Build you're trying to make, collect and max-out a ton of Weapons or Spell(s).
(Even weapons that might not immediately interest you.)
Having a wide variety of weapons is important for the different scenarios you may run into, during invasions.
Don't forget about Infusions, Ash of War, weapon skills and Talismans.
You only need 54 to 60 Vigor.
Finally equip Flask(s) to Pouch and use the quick bar for consumable items.
I hope this helps you and anyone who didn't what to do.

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Attempting to invade....Attempting to invade.... Then beat in 2 seconds by max level helpers at every level of the game in 3 vs 1 scenario. This game has effectively destroyed pvp with terrible design and pvp gameplay. Play for pve then move on. Do not waste time with it. Seriously. Just read through these threads . Aside from people who don't invade anyway , they are all valid complaints. They might as well get rid of it as they obviously are not going to fix or change anything now or in dlc.

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After level 30. Do not bother invading. This is a terrible broken mess. It's a little fun very early. Laser beams , magic bombs, and max level phantom l2 after that. You do not have a chance. Very boring to boot.

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Invasion takes forever... Im at lv 60. Does my country play a role? Im in Germany

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Never not funny to clap an invader with their same bs. Ah love my sh!tter build

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Hot take: we don't need solo invasions, 6 player limit, taunter's tongue rework, and any pvp exclusive balance or glitch fixes. I always wonder, why tf fromsoftware should ever listen to constantly complaining, hyper optimal pvp players that always make their setups through duping or evil engine, thereby violating the game rules? They always be suffering, they're always crying how trash the pvp is, and they will do it after dlc comes out.

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Doing co-op @lvl30 in stormveil, and I see lots if sweaty neckbeard throw rot pots or some bs. I pull out the trusty ol blicky and sleep em to death. Never not funny to bleed a sweatlord to death and teabag on em. Yellow gang

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Anyone know what the yellow glowing circular emblem on center of some players chest armor is?

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Never not funny all these heroic Elden Lords just running with their tail between their legs when their bodyguards die.

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I always laugh when I see the sweaty tryhards invade with an antspur rapier with poison & bleed, rot & sleep pots and constantly switch weapons lol. I'm just there with my big bonk like, u ever see the sunlight bru?

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Quest wants me to invade? Ok, ill try it. >gank squad with no pve left, twinked items, get overwhelmed by password phantoms, blue resummons, and magic/L2 spam

Ok, well, clearly we need a bit more of a numbers advantage here. I'll upgrade my flask some more and get some new spells and tools to use. >same thing happens.

Ok, well, if invading is this unfair I have to be unfair back. I will play through leveling and upgrading as little as possible so I can have more talismans, better flasks, and better physick tears than the host. Ill have ashes of war, affinities, and special weapons they shouldn't have access to. Maybe thats twinking but at least I'm not having someone drop them for me or using cheat engine.
>my Godfrey Icon + millicent's prosthesis Marais Executioner Sword L2 does 150 damage on a full contact hit, phantom moonveils me back for over half my hp

This game's pvp is a joke. As an invader you can only win with instant kills like ledge knocks, high level magic or L2 cheese and even then only against very unskilled players.

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Hot take: invasions should be removed, it's so unfair to invaders it compounds EVERY. SINGLE. PERSON. to use the most OP weapons and setups.

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99% of invasions: harrowing, ballbusting, worst the game has to offer
1% of invasions: genuine, fun, lifeblood of the souls series

never give up

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The only invader I respect is 'Artemis' on pc. That individual invades stormveil with a white torch and guides host to all that this castle has to offer. Encountered 2 times as a furled finger and it was fun

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Don't be a caster in arena apparently.

People will play passive, some to a fault so bad they keep running away from the caster cause they can't be passive close to you without risking dmg and when they finally pull out some annoying or downright broken weapon/attack/ash (or just straight up cast heal... in a duel...) and win and they then point down cause they couldn't handle actually being in harms way for once and being spell spammed cause they keep running instead of engaging.

It's crazy how delusional people can be, that being said I myself am included.
Just keep running, and running, and running, and running, and get mad at others for running, everybody else does it!
Elden ring PVP in a nutshell.

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I play on PS5, I'm level 80 weapons 15/6 my name is "RUN Tarnished", I played the souls saga a lot and I believe I'm well above average in PvP. I'm the Tarnished who needs to run around Elden Ring with an AoW that does a lot of damage, pray to kill one in 3x1.. then face a 2x1.. and then 1x1 finally.. apart from the fact that most invasions are high levels with spam spells/skills.. I'M HAVING SO MUCH FUN! stop this mimimimimimi! you're just another cursed Tarnished! Brazil says hello.

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Go to 1v1 arena, confront a lightroll mage who instantly casts Terra Magica and Renalla's/Ranni's Dark Moon, successfully parry it will Carian Retaliation but still get 70% of your health deleted because of lag. Accept your fate

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Hello brothers, wish everyone a nice day, stay motivated

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The PvP-specific defense bonus nerfs honestly make sense, since any defense bonus is going to benefit gankers 3x as much as invaders. Insane burst damage is kinda the only real tool an invader has against a group of 3 in a vacuum. As much as I dislike the non-viability of tank characters for pvp, it makes total sense.

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Gamers who say that using cheat engine/other hacking tools for pvp is justified because of numerous ganks and twinked hosts with their OL phantoms must understand that these abominations also use cheat engine and wouldn't exist in the first place if not for it. But that's doesn't matter anyways, we've crossed the point of no return long ago and devs can't do anything about offline save manipulation.

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In the dlc Fromsoft will try to reestablish itself as a company who makes hard,tough but fair games not easy mmo for fortnite players so they will implement these changes:
-All the bosses are 200% magic resistant
-Password summons are turned off, can only summon people your level range
-No items can be dropped
-Taunters tongue cannot be turned off, only at the bonfire
Source: Redman's dream

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Hello, everyone. This is ANON Aug 28 dropping by. Don't get discourage.
Building a good pvp character is just like building a trading card deck. Your choice in weapons, Ash of War, spells and talismans must be built around a certain theme to make truly effective. But be careful, some equipment work well together but others may detract or be counterintuitive.
Two or more weapons can be of the exact same class but have different R2 attacks (standing/running/jumping). Utilize them all, not just L2.
It doesn't hurt to find and collect every Sorcery/ Incantation/ Consumable you need, since some can even be used in combos or setups.
Remember to only play to the strengths of your Build (Strength/Dexterity/Quality/Intelligence/Faith/Arcane).
Reverse backstep attack(s) can give you an edge.

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invading on pc is so goddamn awful i cant even believe it. level 30 with a +2 somber and every single host has a full kit of twinked equipment, and two or more obscenely overleveled phantoms. always a ranni cosplay with MLGS and at least one person with dual katana which may or may not be moonveil and RoB. its impossible to have the one-shot kill potential you need to overcome a 3+ man squad at so low level, but meta level is no better, all jeenine wannabe gankers and lake duelists with great runes and lightning weapons. i see content creators who play on ps5 and they make it look so fun. getting this game on pc was such a mistake

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