Hand of Malenia | Elden Ring Wiki

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Original user : show that she will use waterflow dance and make you scream with fear.
Cringe user : mimic , hiding , waiting behind wall or below lift to use waterflow dance and still fail.
Chad user : one hand this with seal only for use scarlet aeonia.

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For Ashina!!!!

- some guy who managed to infuse this with lightning

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why does this has higher dex scaling than keen nagakiba in the game files but have B on scaling while nagakiba has A

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I made a Katana only playthrough recently as I never liked the weapon class really much. While I still don't get what's so special about ROB and Moonveil, the hand of Malenia and the Uchigatana have won a special place in my heart, especially after the WFD one shot sir Gideon Ofnir the all spamming ! It's probably also good against rennala but I didn't get to test that theory yet, since I obviously did not safe rennala for after Malenia.

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"Adeino!"

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Wait can you stack blood flame blade with this?

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Nice I've gotten spiral cloud passage finally!

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I used this against Malenia and pretty much stunlocked her with her own waterfowl dance, then she got all close to me and threw me in the air and stabbed me. So romantic <3

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Requires that much DEX while also not even having at least A in DEX. Mega cringe.

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They Should Remove that Bleed Buildup and Increase the Scale of Dex to A or S

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Pros:

- Good reach
- Bleed
- WOOSH WOOSH WOOSH.... WOOSH WOOSH.... WOOSH..... WOOSH

Cons:

- Steep requirements make it unideal for most builds without planning around it
- Only obtainable very late game after tackling a number of hoops and tough bosses
- Requires you to fight the single most powerful enemy in the entire game while simultaneously avoiding dying of super-aids

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My Beloved! Great against mobile bosses with fast attacks when powerstanced, good reach, good against stationary bosses with the waterfowl dance, melts NPC invaders with a single waterfowl and is light enough to light roll even when powertanced if you wear very light armour and put a lot into endurance , which you should because waterfowl also melts your Stamina bar lol! I'm just happy that my favourite boss in the game has an amazing weapon! (Probably a biased opinion since I just LOVE Malenia as a boss...or maybe that's just the Stockholm syndrome kicking in)

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haha waterfowl go woosh

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weapon of a demigoddess empyrean that requires 48 dex can't even manage s scaling, what a joke

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>48 Dexterity requirement
>B scaling in Dexterity

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It is a Legal obligation to wear Malenia's armour and say "I am Malenia, Blade of Miquella" when using the waterfowl dance, breaking this law results in being punished by being smacked out of the first flurry, learned it the hard way!

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honestly one of the best pvp weapons after the 1.10 patch. I see everyone use it

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the timing for the follow ups on the ash of war are really weird

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Good for powerstanced katana until you have 2 Nagakiba, for now just use this inferior version of it

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This weapon’s skill has insane tracking. It can lunge forward on a target and then move backwards in the air if the target moves behind the user.

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THE FAQ DO YOU MEAN IT CAN BE BOOSTED WITH GREASE!?!

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"I'm L2, blade of ganker hosts and i've never known defeat".

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Im torn apart here...

I just want pure physical damage katana, no bleed, poison, magic none of that.

I get it, its a bonus and its me problem.

Hopefully the dlc would have katana similar to Blacksteel from DS2 with S scaling.

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One is good, two powerstanced is op like in "you are become death in pve and pvp alike" op, love it.

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insanely good for easily staggered enemies and bosses, absolute ass against those with high poise

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This weapon doesn't seem as powerful in the PC's hands....but then again, the PC isn't Malenia. So I guess that makes sense!

Malenia might be OP skilled....but the PC has immortality!

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I swear this and nagakiba have a 2 hit r1 true combo if you free aim sideways at people's toes and then swap 180 to the other side

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I am Hand, Blade of Malenia

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My collection of katanas are finally complete

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Giving rot woulda made sense but it's already good

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Goofiest-looking sword in the game so far. Ain't nobody telling me that this looks badass with that long-ass blade and comically small handle

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Just killed malenia and was wonder whether I should use her remembrance to get this weapon? I’m currently wielding a +10 Bolt of Gransax with 57 faith

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Most overpowered weapon in history when Malenia is using it. But when my tarnished wielding it?? It's just a glorified art-piece

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I AM MALENIA, BLADE OF MIQUELLA!

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Just got this and I'm not sure if I should swap out my Bloodhounds Fang for it? BHF rules, but this looks fun too?

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una basura de katana, la acabo de probar, ya subida a nivel maximo, y no tiene nada de especial, y su ceniza especial para mi es una castaña, hay muchas armas mejores y mas divertidas que no esta, y la verdad, lo que lleva a costar conseguirla como para que su recompensa sea mediocre, muy mal, una decepcion

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Over-bashed, honestly. Is it as versatile as Nagakiba? No. Is it shorter than Nagakiba? Yes. Do you really wish you could apply buffs to it? Yes.

But this is still the highest physical AR katana in the game and it still has excellent reach. If you don't want to depend on consumables or FP to keep up your damage, this is a compelling option. And Waterfowl Dance, while slow, can pour on damage on low-poise enemies.

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sekiro vibes

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wtf is this another trash weapon declared war on

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Malenia has lifesteal, could she be using godskin swadding cloth?

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This sword looks so goofy at least when Malenia wields it

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Has the highest guard ability so you can actually make a guard counter build with it. Not as good as using a bigger weapon though.

Use the transmog mod so you can look like malenia too and have poise to use the mechanic. Otherwise just slap on some good looking heavy armor.

Greatshield+curved sword is a must and shard of Alexander for dmg. Dragoncrest shield talisman for more dmg reduction, especially on higher ng+ levels.

Oh yeah and lots of endurance.

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I've heard that the excuse for the poor scaling of these weapons are the raw damage that they give out so you can have more weapons despite not having the appropiate build. But I don't understand this one. This is 100% a pure dex weapon, so why doesn't it have lower raw damage and better scaling?

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Imagine combining this, milicents prosthesis, 2 winged sword talismans and godskin cloth

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Its not absolute cancer but I can say as someone who used the weapon in prev patches I'm pleased either. I think the issue is, more than anything else, its a bit hard to know what will and what wont stagger someone out of it. There's also, at least I think, a difference in the hyper armor when someone winds up the attack in the air vs when someone actually gets started. The windup isn't so bad, I think the hyper armor changes are fairly good there. You're slightly more durable and won't get knocked out by someone just coughing on you, but it can sometimes feel just kinda random whether or not they get knocked out in the follow up. I also feel like people are lying when they say the wind up is slow. I wouldn't call it instantaneous, you don't need to frame perfect dodge on start up, but it is pretty quick. I will grant it is funny to knock people out of it, esp ppl who spam it, but also you are one missed timed attack away from getting blended for trying to punish it after someone tries it for the fourth or fifth time (I say this as someone who doesnt skimp on vig, either, usually having 55-60 by endgame).

I liked it more before when you had to put more thought into when to start up the aow as opposed to now where people treat it the same way they do the Stormhawk axe or the blackflame tornado aow, no thought except run up next to them and spam the aow. At least the huge dex requirement mostly limits the shenanigans to higher levels though I feel bad for anyone having to deal with it in any narrow hallways.

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Its not absolute cancer but I can say as someone who used the weapon in prev patches I'm pleased either. I think the issue is, more than anything else, its a bit hard to know what will and what wont stagger someone out of it. There's also, at least I think, a difference in the hyper armor when someone winds up the attack in the air vs when someone actually gets started. The windup isn't so bad, I think the hyper armor changes are fairly good there. You're slightly more durable and won't get knocked out by someone just coughing on you, but it can sometimes feel just kinda random whether or not they get knocked out in the follow up. I also feel like people are lying when they say the wind up is slow. I wouldn't call it instantaneous, you don't need to frame perfect dodge on start up, but it is pretty quick. I will grant it is funny to knock people out of it, esp ppl who spam it, but also you are one missed timed attack away from getting blended for trying to punish it after someone tries it for the fourth or fifth time (I say this as someone who doesnt skimp on vig, either, usually having 55-60 by endgame).

I liked it more before when you had to put more thought into when to start up the aow as opposed to now where people treat it the same way they do the Stormhawk axe or the blackflame tornado aow, no thought except run up next to them and spam the aow. At least the huge dex requirement mostly limits the shenanigans to higher levels though I feel bad for anyone having to deal with it in any narrow hallways.

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ash of war is a monster in pvp

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ash of war is a monster in pvp

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How well does Ironjar work with this? Wondering if the added poise works with waterfowl.

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good weapon

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Slightly stronger than a keen uchigatana, both maxed. But the uchi is much more flexible, so i simply carry them both.

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Recently used this against Hoarah Loux and somehow 1st impact of his earth shaker didn't knock me out from WFD startup animation...I did it twice to win against him felt really satisfying.

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I finally managed to do the full waterfowl dance combo in real life. I feel motivated

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I finally managed to do the full waterfowl dance combo in real life. I feel motivated

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I hate trying to look for actual comments ABOUT the weapon and only getting stuff about the aow THE AOW HAS A SEPERATE PAGE FOR A REASON

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I'm a mage and used the Black knife tiche and spent the past 2 days fighting Malenia, just for the cool dress, and I saw that this sword was something I could pick up, from everything I've read it's very dex heavy and seems situational. Should I pick it up or the pretty flower explosion even if the both of them are very situational. And I'm new with a 100 hours in the game, just want some tips.

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People before 1.10: "This Ash of War doesn't have enough hyper-armor, I get staggered out of it too easily."

People after 1.10: "This Ash of War has too much hyper-armor, I keep getting one-shotted."

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should have S scaling on dex

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Fun to use now, but the whiners have no standing. Super easy to counter (run away during the long wind up, parry) or knock a player out of (r1s on great thrusting swords and spears knocked me out of the animation with about 72 poise). The damage with the buffs is insane, but this is also a slow ash.

I've been saying 60 vigor is meta for like 18 months. Do that and this won't one shot you.

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FROMSOFTWARE FIX YOUR GAME FFS!

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One time someone used the ash of war for this and I squashed him with the war cry heavy its not too hard to counter in this patch, and if you are a guy who uses big weapons or heavy weapons you aren't gonna have a problem with this ash of war in PVP.

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LOL, the people who cry here after being deleted by WFD. It has a freaking slow startup, and can be easily interrupted/parried because of that slow startup. It can be evaded easier than Malenia's because it lacks the reach. My Ice Claymore Spinning Slash can stagger tf out this AOW.

Yes, it's dangerous, but totally managable and highly risky for the user to spam it.

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It's not OP, It's lore accurate

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Guys it's not op, it's lore accurate

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Mike wazowski dreams of a game where no other weapon class but Katanas is viable, where all gamers from all the lands of cringe can do nothing but L2 waterfowl dance into eachother and hope to out trade the 2 OLPs before their bubble tear pops.
And then you will fight the ultimate end game boss, Latency.
goty 2024

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This will be nerfed next patch for sure which is kinda sad, sometimes i cant understand this community, if u get hit by the slow ash of war than it is your own fault, if you are talking about the damage waves of darkness on a CGS does do the same dmg with HA that cant be broken
But yeah im 100% sure that this weapon will get nerfed because many players will cry about this and CGS will get even more buffs (it starts to get meta)

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This is gonna be the new Stormhawk axe, I can see it.

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A decent weapon even if you ignore the "I win" button that is waterfowl dance.

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After patch 1.10 the waterfowl can't be interrupted anymore and it stunlocks you for -80% HP.

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I wish that waterfowl dance wasn’t parriable like spinning slash as it’s so slow you’ll almost never land it on someone and it has basically no hyperarmor so it’s really easy to be hit out of. Right now it’s very easy to parry this if you’re even just ok at parrying. The only thing that kind of negates this is a weird interaction where when mashing L2 you just walk out of the parried animation sometimes but it doesn’t seem too consistent and is clearly unintended. Right now you’re better off using the Nagakiba in PvP and PvE and I wish this was at least good enough to compete as I love this weapon.

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waterfowl dance + godskin swaddling cloth is probably insane

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Just did justice to Gideon and horalux in ng+ 14 with it horaxs second Phase was 3 seconds.

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I would personally trade the bleed build-up for 1% HP on hit like the Butchering Knife and Great Stars, up the Dex scaling to at least an A, and add some poise onto Waterfowl Dance. It would be a much better reward for beating the hardest boss in Soulsborne history. Other than that, very fun weapon, it was the one I used to beat Elden Beast.

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I use this when I’m a hunter to teach invaders to dodge waterfowl dance for later (nobody has dodged it yet)

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So many Elden Ring weapons need a boost for PvE. There's no reason that you go through one of the most difficult bosses in history for this piddly little stick. This should ANNIHILATE multiple enemies at the same time but it doesn't.

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idk if it's not a meta katana. It looks cool, cool weapon art, has good range, and does enough damage ng+7

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I really wanna use this since it looks awesome especially with Malenia armor, but my Uchi is probably better especially due to unsheathe.

Maybe I'll just use malenia armor with my Uchi and switch to the Hand when I want fun

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80 dex + rotten winged sword insignia + millicent's prosthesis if you are on ng plus + thorny cracked tear + blue dancer charm(useless if you are wearing heavy stuff) + bull goat talisman(if you are wearing heavy stuff) + shard of alexander + golden vow + flame, grant me strength. after all this, whether you wipe out the bosses in one or two salvos is entirely up to your timing.

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I used this for my ng+ malenia build. For as fun as it was, I do agree with some of the criticisms. I'd trade the bleed build-up for 1hp per hit in a heartbeat, and its a little silly that the boss's unparryable move is suddenly parryable in pvp, though I do understand that From may have wanted to avoid having players spam it maybe? but at the same time I don't know how much forethought goes into stuff like that given the other things left in the game pvp wise. That also being said I am curious as to what the timing is like because I have been in a situation where another play attempted to parry me fowling and just got blended, so if nothing else its a punishing aow to miss a parry on. Though it does suck that anything that hits harder than a light breeze can knock you down. Otherwise though, while I know people grumble about the dex scaling, I will say malenia's sword does have an chunky edge over both a keen infused uchi or nagakiba (~40 more AR at 99 dex). B scaling isn't bad esp in a game when it doesn't crop up very often (esp if you were to have the astounding 48 dex to use it). Overall, fun to use for the 5 mins you have it in ng, maybe better suited to a ng+ run (or just be very dedicated to fighting malenia 1/2 through the game and underleveled, god speed.)

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its good simply because its the length of two uchigatanas taped together

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I'd trade out that random blood loss for the 1% hp back from the cleaver/great stars

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gotta love the logic in this game:
doesn't have bleed in the fight, has bleed when we use it.
and vice versa for the mantis blade

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Turns out that rotten sword insignia, godskin swaddling cloth, and Melania's great rune make you very dangerous.

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Underrated weapon in PvP. Catch some poor ****er spamming dragon communion spells and use the AoW to give them a free ticket to the Greater Will

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A lot of these unique weapons aren't that fitting for a lot of players. I've been playing specialized builds from the start and always got bored. Since I've gone Quality a whole store of weapons have opened up for me and the only thing I have to do is make sure I upgrade them till (near) max and carry them with me. Now what I love about Quality (absurd that I haven't figured this out with 500 hours of gameplay), is that you switch weapons based on the situation. No more being stuck with your specialized set that this one player can counter. No more immune bosses, you just prepare differently. And this weapon has one of the most unique weapon arts in the game, just like a dragons breath, you gotta find a moment to use it. So a very proper off-hand for both PvP and PvE, but very situational.

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Seppuku with this weapon should cure scarlet rot

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Who would win:

The literal end game katana of the most powerful demigod of the Shattering

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The Katana you can literally start with

(hint, the winner's name starts with U and ends with chigatana)

I have never understood Fromsoftware's logic when it comes to this, though it has been consistent since Dark Souls 1. Why make the weapon you start with more powerful in every single conceivable way than the weapon you have to play 150 hours for?

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its so weird to me that you can parry this skill but not spinning slash, some consistency please fromsoft

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You literally have to kill the hardest boss in the game to get this and it's only B scaling in dex? A weapon of the most powerful anime swordwoman of the shattering is only B scaling in dex? That should have been A scaling +0 and S at +10, it's just common logic

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Mid weapon, you'll never get the chance to use the full weapon art seriously and often you'll get knocked out of it. Doesn't even have any unique animations either. Frayed blade clears.

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The reason this thing doesn't build up bleed is because the sword doesn't hit as much as you think. If you use it without proper requirements, you can see that it only hits a few times, the AOE slashes don't build up status effects.

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i liek fun wepon

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Disappointing. Don't believe the hype.

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The FP cost written here is wrong. 9-7 is what’s written but that’s only if you have the Carian Filigreed Crest on. The normal FP cost is 12-9.

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Shame you cant enhance or infuse it.

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Am I the only one who wanted it to have the prosthetic built into the arm instead of holding it?

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I like it :) the boss fight may or may not be a fun one but I like it. Was testing it out on that big dude that drops down on the occasion at the haligtree town and it was just doing a bunch of staggering and damn good dps yes ik there’s better but this is still a really fun weapon

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Il più grande vantaggio pvp di sta arma è quello di suscitare i più grandi trami che hai avuto di sto gioco

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this weapon shouldnt have any bleed buildup but instead have better dex scaling, that would honestly make it way better

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