Dragon Communion Incantations | Elden Ring Wiki

Can someone plz explain what it means when the wiki says that "needs X amount of fp but will you use Y amount w/o any extra benefit"

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Might be a hot take but these spells are kinda boring, like yeah the damage nukes everything but the majority of them are just the same thing but with a different element, pretty lame.

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It would be cool if the dlc feature a body transformation to a magma wyrm like dragon transformation in dark souls, since you already can have the eyes of a dragon

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So what items boost or affect dragon incantations now (speed, damage, cost, etc)? For claw and maw i have no idea except for dragon communion seal, for the breathe attacks too and maybe the flocks canvas and the roar medallion plus fitting elemental scorpion charms? Does godfrey icon work for claw or breath attacks? And radagons? I havent gotten too much or too far yet, just wondering if someone could give me an overview of what talismans or items i should look for to get the best out of dragon incants

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“They cost too much FP!11!” Bro how are you not like 2-3 shotting bosses with any of the dragon spells anyways? Fix your build. Faithful’s Canvas Talisman and Roar Medallion are easily accessible at the beginning of the game. Use good positioning to kill as many trash mobs in an area as possible with your breath or claw. Let go of the the casting button so you’re not wasting FP on damage ticks that you don’t need.

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WORORORO!! BORO BREASUUU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Wow. The people who made faith need a RAISE ! They RAISED STANDARDS ! 10 / 10

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Ia dex worth it for casting speed with dragon comuntion or not?

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Do the named ones have a shorter range?

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I'm doing a Messmer cosplay and I want to get to Mohg ASAP but keep my draconic eyes. If I get the dragon eyes and THEN do Varre's quest, can I keep the dragon eyes? Thanks!

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They all cost way too much fp tbh. I think the best spells are the cheap/medium cost ones, like catch flame, black flame, night comet etc.

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They say "Dragon Communion Incantations are my favorite in the game, they are so cool" while using nothing but Rotten/Ekzykes' Breath sometimes mixed with frost ones. Seriously, the amount of people you see in invasions/co-op who spam these spells is f***ing obnoxious.

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Would anyone else love to see a Bloodflame Dragon in the DLC?

It could unlock 2 more Dragon Communion Incants;

- Bloodflame Dragonclaw
- Bloodflame Breath

The Dragonclaw could be a variant of the normal one, but it deals less physical in order to cause fire damage and a bloodflame explosion more akin to Mohg's, as opposed to the smaller Talon spell we already have.

And the breath attack would both be so badass visually, and fill the gap of no hemorrhaging dragonbreath.

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Damn, that’s some bull**** you can’t get dragon eyes if you have blood eyes. Why didn’t they just make it a option which ones you want.

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when you get summoned and the host uses their entire fp bar spewing these spells for 40 seconds straight and you can’t see the boss <<<

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In regards to the Dragon Breath Incantations, the lesser variants (Dragonfire, Glintsone Breath, Rotten Breath, Dragonice) outclass the named variants (Agheel's Flame, Smarag's Glintstone Breath, Ekzyke's Decay, Borealis' Mist)

While the named ones deal +17% more damage, they consume way too much FP and ultimately force you into investing more into Mind (Thus, being more useful at RL 200+)

The lesser ones actually result in more damage overall as you can invest a minimum of 30 Mind and perform TWO FULL CASTS WITH 1 FP LEFT (With Rotten Breath/Dragonice since they're slightly more expensive)

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Can anyone tell me if my dragon breath attacks would benefit more with putting points to faith or arcane while using the Dragon Communion Seal?

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Only use these if you are a noob with no combat skill.

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I discovered while farming lvl 5 stones in the sealed cave that the crucible knight sets' boost to crucible incantations also boosts these dragon incantations. I was using the spells to clear the room and realized it when I switched armor.

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It makes little sense to me that these spells have more faith requirements than arcane. The spells are meant to be used with the ARC scaling Dragon Communion Seal yet require you to spend upwards of 30+ FAI for some of the stronger incantations. It is a waste for those who want a more ARC+ STR/DEX character.

Lorewise is also makes sense. While the drakeknights revere the power of dragons, which could justify a little bit of faith being required, you are literally killing and consuming dragons in what is akin to a pagan ritual. It does not get more arcane than that.

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Lightning breath and holy breath when...

Oh, right, "just use dragon cult & golden order" i guess

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PvP God: Faith
PvE God: Faith

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According to DS2 the Drakeblood knights, an order that hunt dragons for their blood, "came from a land long forgotten" yet they're absent in DS1, and the Drake knights started their knighthood within their time and their lands (between what?).
Just Sagan.

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I don't understand why they even bothered with the named breaths if they were just going to make 90% of them straight upgrades of the "generic" ones, rather than the actually unique breath attacks most of the dragons they come from actually have. Having Adula's crystal explosion or Borealis' ice roar would have been so much cooler than the ones we got, imo.

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Why do they require high FAI when you don't actually pray to any god? Shouldn't they only require ARC instead since it's you using the power within you with these and ARC is what determines your inner magical powers?

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most of them are pretty weak when at minimum requirement...especially for the cost....being very powerful looking, the dragon breath types should be exclusive to late-game ( 25+ faith/arcane requirements so they can hit as hard as they look like they would and would prevent a lot of players from using them under level 100 ) and the 3 aspects of the crucibles being for early to mid game ( as for dragon style attacks )

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I wanna see a frenzied dragon in the dlc

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So partaking in dragon communion means you’ll eventually become a magma wyrm. Does this mean we still get to be elden lord after we turn?

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Ooooooh, so that's why my character's eyes looks like they did meth

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Missing Placidusax's Ruin

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what if bloodboon one?

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all of these are banned by the geneva convention

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can't wait for ds1 style drake lightning breath in dlc

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After 1.09, how do named compare with unnamed?

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need poison breath...

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In PVP, Borealis's Mist may be the most powerful spell in this category, but the thing is a lot of people these days bring magic and frostbite resistance setup as there are many players go with int build, so Dragonfire and Agheel's Flame can be effective sometimes because there are not many people who bring fire resistance setup, plus you can combo them with pyromancy spells also.

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“Hey Agheel do you know candice”

“YOUR FRIENDS ARE DEAD RAAHH”

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I'm a melee only guy usually, but I'm considering going wayyy beyond "meta level" just for these spells. They're too cool to pass up.

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Do Dragon Comm scale with Arcane or Faith?

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Maybe I'm being stupid, but lore wise, why these require faith? You're not praying to dragons but rather stealing their power which is along the lines of arcane no?

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Dragons kinda got shafted in this compared to other from soft games, none are really needed for the main questline, they are all pretty much the same fight, just with different stats and status build up. the lore is incredibly bare bones, and the power you can get from them is pretty average.

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"Elden ring is too fast-paced, I can't keep up with the endgame bosses" if this is you, may I introduce you to dragon communion spells, specifically dragonmaw.

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Goofy ahh lizards

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I just tested it, its 4, counting 4, dragon hearts you must consume to gain the special eye alteration

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You need a to have learned a minimum of four dragon communion incantations for your eyes to alter. This doesnt translate into new games, you have to learn a minimum of four in one run to keep the eyes

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The amount of incantations needed to get the eyes is 5 or 6.

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As of patch 1.09, Roar Medallion now boosts the breath-based dragon incantations.

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I beat greyoll dragon early game but I can’t see or get Greyolls Roar. Anyone have any ideas?

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May want to edit the roar medallion statement as of patch 1.09

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Are these incantations magic damage or does it depend on the specific incantation? (dragon fire, ice, magic breath etc)

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As of patch 1.09 the Roar Medallion does indeed effect Dragon Breath incantations, it's updated on the Roar Medallion page but not yet here. :)

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Hope they add a bloodflame breath in the dlc

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INSANELY good in low level pvp with pretty minimal errand running. you arcane stat can be boosted very hard by headgear on top of stuff like marikas scarseal from siofra, you can use half of the dragon spells in the game by lvl 30, and they deal LOADS of damage

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As of update, 1.09 the roar medallion does now effect dragon communion incantations.

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Roar medallion now correctly boosts damage.

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why update the icons they look worse

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I just bought the 4 basic breath attacks. It only takes 4 for your characters eyes to change

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What I don’t get is that there is this whole thing made about dragon communion eventually transforming the user into a magma worm, yet this game lacks a draconic transformation like it’s DS cousins

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I need more dragon.
I wanna eat more dragon. lots of dragon

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What would you say would be the maximum amount of faith you need to wield all of the spells?

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Does any of the breath incantations gain extra damage with the Godfrey Icon?

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To the poster below me I would like to say "To the poster below me"

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to the poster below me i agree

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to the poster below me that would probably be mean

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To the poster below me and if I do?

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To the poster below me don't ruin it!

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To the poster below me you can’t make me

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To the poster below me lets keep this chain going

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To the poster below me because we don’t feel like it

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To the posters below me why aren't we using the comment option?

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My personal review of the incantations (general spell)

Flame breath
It slaps good and looks good. Great on animal.

Glintstone breath
It slaps good and looks good.
Great on player.

Rot breath
Bro eat a mint.
Good against big health bois.

Ice breath
It slaps real good and the sound tickles my eardrums.
Very nICE

Magma spew
Weighty. Good for area control. Getting around walls. Blocking doorways. It’s a wyrm. Very cool.

Placidusax Ruin
I don’t care if this doesn’t count. It might as well.
Knock back and damage on cast. Great for keeping players away. And anything else. Coolest looking spell in the game. Anyone who disagrees died to the boss too many times.

Greyroll roar
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Very good at giving caster some space. Missing this will make you vulnerable. Damage and defense reduction worth it.

Dragonclaw
It is a slappy slam. Big hurt, big poise, big hand. What more do you need?

Dragonmaw
Oh. I guess this is what you need.
Tarnished! What does your HUD say about this spell’s damage level!?

IT’S OVER NINE THOUSAAAAND!!!

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To the poster below me: Because I like them. What other reason would I have to use something in this game? I don't need to "destroy" bosses, I've beaten everything with just a longsword.

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to the poster below me: bro just pump faith the dragon breaths are all nukes you absolutely do not need to go above 20 arcane to see mileage out of the breaths. applying frost and then rot will destroy anything in the game that can be afflicted by it. it's maybe not worth relying on the raw damage of the other ones unless you build specifically for it but as you found out, why the **** would you lol

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To the poster below me: In order to get the most out of Dragon Communion incantations, your stats will have to become a bit of a mess. This is because the seal you'll want to use, the Dragon Communion Seal, scales with Faith and Arcane. Coincidentally, this is also the best seal for blood incantations as the Arcane scaling affects their status build-up.

The issue here is that not a single weapon in this game scales with both Faith and Arcane. So if you want to hit the softcaps for your seal (30 Faith/45 Arcane), you'll have to pump a bunch of points into a stat that you won't get to use elsewhere.

On top of that, Dragon Communion incantations devour stamina and FP, which you'll also want to have a good amount of. That's why I recommend sticking to an Arcane weapon that inflicts hemorrhage. For example, Mohg's spear, Morgott's curved sword, Eleonora's poleblade and Rivers of Blood, which is what I use. The blood loss they inflict can make up for what you lack in AR, and enemies that aren't susceptible to them, you can simply smash or chomp on with Dragonclaw/Dragonmaw.

Personally, my character's stat spread at RL 150 is 50/27/21/12/35(+5)/9/30/45. Pretty messy, right? And as if that weren't enough, I wear four damage-boosting talismans (Kindred of Rot's Exultation, Lord of Blod's Exultation, Rotten Winged Sword Insignia and Millicent's Prosthesis). So yeah, if you want to be dwegon, you have to get quite creative about doing decent damage.

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Do Dragon Incantations scale better with faith or with Arcane? Is a (mostly) Arcane build viable with these? As in, get the minimum faith to use the Dragon incant you want to use and dump rest into arcane and combine with occult weapon and blood incantations as well?????

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Your eyes change by consuming 8 dragon hearts... Though I'd like confirmation

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How to remove effect dragon head during the cast dragons breath? Is there any mod that removes this effect?! Help me please!!! :'(

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How to remove effect dragon head during the cast dragons breath? Is there any mod that removes this effect?! Help me please!!! :'(

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Dragonform wen?

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Wariina, kurae na! Dragon Install!

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I wouldn't mind a poise damage reduction strictly for pvp, getting staggered repeatedly is pretty brutal on top of the high damage

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Why no lightning dragon incantation ? Bolt of Gransax and the red lightning incantations link to a powerful ancient dragon and also the capital's dragon cult. A bona fide lightning breath dragon communion incantation would have been preferable to that waste of three memory slots, and uncontrollable s**t-show that is placidusax's ruin. I'll put my money where my mouth is though, I think there will be when the DLC turns up.

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I can'teven tell that the damage was nerfed in pvp. can still oneshot peeps pretty effortlessly

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when are you gonna update the Roar medallon thing? it works as for 1.7

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Fingers crossed for a death blight communion spell in the DLCs...

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What about my boy placidudisax? His spell is amazing and I just want to know if its "dragon communion" or Dragon cult".

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No

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we really need a bloodflame breath

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Is there an NPC or Boss who uses Dragon incantation besides Dragons ?

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nerfed almost all of these in 1.07. From really hates dragon spells, huh?

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dragon jumpscare

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damage probably needs to be tweaked. at 50 arc with two +10 dragon seals i can consistently oneshot entire coop groups

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Please add, named breaths do more damage, less range horizontal range, used midair and longer vertical range (activated after a jump) do no ask how this works out but my main is dragon based incantations, and this is how it’s been each and every time

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I hope in the dlc we got more of these i find the concept of them wery intresting

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It appears that holding the sacred seal on the offhand only allows one cast of the named breath attacks when casting while jumping.

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There's something I'm missing about the damage done by the dragon communion incantations and I'm hoping someone here will be able to clarify.
I got caught out by a revenant I wasn't aware of in some ruins, exzykes's decay shredded it but that's what got me thinking because it didn't die slowly as the scarlet rot ate away at its HP but from being hit by the rot breath, it was dead before the first cast had finished and didn't need to be hit with a second.
I use borealis's mist to speed up the rune farm around blood-filled lake, a day or two ago I tried smarag's glintstone just to see and I think smarag's is killing the red albinaurics faster than borealis's had been.
So is this because the albinaurics have a higher resistance to cold than magic? If that is the case I still don't understand because just like the revenant I used ekzykes's on, the albinaurics hit by borealis's were not dying from DoT they were dying from being hit by the breath. Can anyone explain this please?

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can't wait for bleed and death blight breath in the dlc

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I just met the requirements to get the dragoneyes. So, thought I may as well note what I did. I killed Greyoll and used her hearts to get Dragonclaw, Glintstone Breath, and Greyoll's Roar (I do not have the stats for Greyoll's, but I do for the others). No eyes. Killed Agheel and used his heart to get Rotten Breath. Got eyes. In other words, one of these seem to be the conditions:
-Purchase four incantations.
-Purchase three Cathedral incantations (Dragonclaw, Dragonmaw, and Dragonfire are available at the church, the rest require the cathedral)
-Purchase five memory slots worth of incantations (Greyoll's requires 2)
-Purchase six hearts worth of incantations
-Purchase five hearts worth of Cathedral incantations

Potentially could require multiple of the above. Also, if it does have multiple requirements, then it is also possible that one of the incantations must be named.

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I hate to say this because I want these incantations to be good but it seems like they just aren’t up to par ( outside of the scarlet rot inflicting one’s). The bite and claw come out too slow and getting used to their tracking is tough. Roar is nice but again if you’re trying to cast bite or claw or roar in a boss fight you’re most likely trading hits

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>> As you obtain more Incantations your eyes will change to resemble a dragon's. It is unknown as of now exactly how many are required. The whites of your eyes turn black and your irises gold. Your pupils also become slits.

I've bought only GREYOLL'S ROAR for the achievement, and when I later used the mirror to change appearance a bit, I noticed that my eyes were red, although I didn't create them this way. But the mirror allowed to revert the change, so I'm not sure what caused it.

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