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It's really good until the boss targets you.

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IMO, instead of the head-scratching derp animation when a spell fails, your toon should do what happens with WA's if you don't have the skill requirements of the weapon: play the animation as-is but without any FP-consuming effects (i.e. just wave the staff / seal without casting the spell) - maybe with just a little stupid magic light that doesn't do anything beyond make it obvious you're wasting your time. If your staff / seal hits an enemy, it counts as a regular R2 and hits for the same damage. Anyone else think this should be a thing?

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200 spells and like 10-15 are actually fun to use/aren't copy and pasted in some capacity? Also, the magic gauge was a mistake, instead of making low tier spells still somewhat useful, since they individually have a lot more uses, they simply made them outdated the second that you get the direct upgrade version, considering that they eat into the same resource, I guess it all boils down to quantity over quality as it always does with games like these, ER was a mess, quite a decent mess mind you, but a mess nonetheless, people are just not willing to accept it for some reason.

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Big ass book as thick as the bible => 2 incantations

A single scroll => 2 Sorceries

Someone is using too many words.

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Sorcery:
Pros:
Fast casting time
Very good at chain casting
Long range
Useful against any armored or stone enemy
Easy access to Frostbite

Cons:
Lacks damage diversity, with the few that exist being scare or situational
Nothing really is weak to Magic unless you count the usefulness against armored foes.
Requires high investment into int, though is still useful

Incantations:
Pros:
Diverse damage variety
Has support, healing, and buffs in one package
Very useful for a hybrid build due to lower requirements compared to sorcerer + buffs/supports
Weakness exploitation
Many flashy and visually appealing animations

Cons:
Slower casting time
smaller range and higher fp cost on average compared to sorcery

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Can someone make a mode that adds the spells that we never got like the ricocheting death sorcery and the crucible tongue/centaur incantation?

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Skills can be used if you have at least 50% of its cost, I wish spells could be used if you have at least ~80% or so of its cost, I hate to refil when I have like 1 or 2 less fp than what the spell requires

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Wow, 213 ways to avoid actually playing the game

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my god spell blade builds are terrible. it's basically just a normal build but with the disadvantage of having to level mind a bit, just to end up never using spells since using a sword is a million times better in basically every circumstance

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More spells!
Please!
More from all types!

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Can someone please explain what the point is in having spells (especially ones clearly designed for crowd control) with a range of maybe 10 feet at best, a 2-second windup, and no hyperarmor? The effective range window on a lot of spells (WA skills too) can literally be a few inches, even for enemies not known for their speed - get it even slightly wrong and either they just step out of range, or they close the distance and bonk you out of it before you can pull it off.

As much as I love the spells in ER for looking cool af and hitting like a truck in the right situation, a good number of them just aren't that practical to regularly use, and the most common reason by a mile is the above to some degree (with the heavy restrictions on replenishing FP coming in second).

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Can we all agree that Sorceries and Incantations both suffer from the "grass is greener" effect when looking over the fence at each other?

Speaking for myself, I kind of wanted a little more variety in Dragon Cult spells than just: Lightning Spear, Knight's Lightning Spear, and 9 different flavors of Lightning Strike that are largely redundant except ADLS which is so strong that it's boring.

There is something to be said about damage type variety among Sorceries. Sure, I would much prefer if several Gravity-based spells & skills dealt lightning damage, but you still have access to frostbite, bleed, standard physical, and fire damage, so things could certainly be worse.

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I have 212 spells. I can’t find which one I’m missing! How tf does this happen? I’ve gone over this list and checked it against my spell inventory 15 times. Are we sure there are 213?!?

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Bro why are the incantations just so much cooler.
Mike Wazoski really did sorcerers dirty

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I went into the dlc the first time as a pure dex thinking what could go wrong? Then I see all these new cool looking sorceries and incantations and look forward to going into the dlc with my int and my fth build. Now I know... yes, now I know indeed...

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How can we not get the bouncing spells the death dudes in the catacombs get?

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While I hesitate to call the new golden arc school a straight upgrade over golden order in practice that's exactly how it works out. Giant Golden Arc > Three Rings Of Light

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I get that incantations have way more implementations than sorcery, since sorcery is mostly space stuff, but they really did sorcery dirty in the DLC with the amount of sorcery vs incantations added. Also the incantations are just way more fun and don't force you to go around with a walking cane inbued with a space marble.

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I need more ice, bubble, thorn, root, poison, thunder, fire spells.

Erdtree spells with damage powers from trees and plants?

What about sleeping spells from songs?

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my post was removed asking about new spell and speaking of its existence? its afinity from dark souls 2, why post removed? im greatly confused, im hoping someone had replied since i've been constantly checking post waiting hours lol why, lets try this again, theres a new spell that hornsent uses that cast black orbs in front of caster and launches at foe when in close proximity, i dont know if its a weapon skill or a spell

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the new spell thats like afinity from dark souls 2 isnt listed here, it summons dark orbs around caster and launches when close in proximity, ive seen people use it, hornsent uses it but nothing discloses how to get it or that it exists at all

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The good news is that I finally got more gravity sorcery and new crucible incantations. The bad news is I still don't have any sleep sorcery. I was hoping for something like poison or frozen mist but for sleep since I only play PvE. Maybe they thought something like that would be annoying in PvP which is probably true. Still kinda sad though considering, well, the whole backstory of Saint Trina in relation to the DLC and the lack of some sleep spells. Would have been a perfect opportunity. I still like what we got, though. Excited to try some of this stuff out!

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It's also worth mentioning that some of the new schools of magic appear to be missing adequate payouts at high level:

1. Mesmer fire
2. Spiral incantations

What is your big F you spell for using these spell categories, well the answer is that they apparently don't exist in elden ring.

Unless your plan is just to use them as a faith splash?

That's probably fine.

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It's also worth mentioning that some of the new schools of magic appear to be missing adequate payouts at high level:

1. Mesmer fire
2. Spiral incantations

What is your big F you spell for using these spell categories, well the answer is that they apparently don't exist in elden ring.

Unless your plan is just to use them as a faith splash?

That's probably fine.

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Just going to mention here that there are something like 3-4 incantations that need spell school adjustments. So the devs can go ahead and do that whenever they get a chance after bug fixs etc. I'll list them here:

1. Divine bird feathers (beast incantation)
2. Multi-layered rings of light (gold order)
3. Beast tornado (beast incantation)

It's pretty normal when releasing new content to miss things like this so I can't wait to see what happens with the 100 new weapons, some stuff will be broken as well.

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Just going to mention here that there are something like 3-4 incantations that need spell school adjustments. So the devs can go ahead and do that whenever they get a chance after bug fixs etc. I'll list them here:

1. Divine bird feathers (beast incantation)
2. Multi-layered rings of light (gold order)
3. Beast tornado (beast incantation)

It's pretty normal when releasing new content to miss things like this so I can't wait to see what happens with the 100 new weapons, some stuff will be broken as well.

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int/arc has once again been cucked. thank you miyakazi, very cool!

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