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70 sorceries and 100 incantations so far... how many do I still need to find?

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70 sorceries and 100 incantations so far... how many do I still need to find?

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They should've kept a third alternative to staffs and talismans. I miss you pyromancy...

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So many incantations to boost fire damage, fire defense, cleanse statuses, but nothing to just buff the weapon with fire, we have to use a grease or an Ash of War that can't be applied to all weapons. Thank you Fromsoft, very cool.

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Night shard and meteorite of astel are peak souls spells

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So, let's break this down:
Strength & Faith go hand in hand for Incantation(s) since Strength improves your character's Physical Defense while Faith provides plenty of versatile spells and improves Fire Defense on top of it.
Dexterity & Intelligence go hand in hand for Sorceries since Dexterity improves the casting speed of your spells that you need to fast and hard, not to mention the Magic Defense.
It is possible to make a hybrid INT/FAITH build, if you don't mind wearing a Burger King mask and using Azur's Glintstone Staff in one hand and the Erdtree Seal in another.

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"Golden Lightning Fortification" and "Protection of the Erdtree" have the same icon. For anyone wondering, they have both the "Protection of the Erdtree" image

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Is there a sorcery equivalent of frenzied burst in that it is a semi sniper spell?

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Hey so I dont usually play with magic in souls games and I wanna give it a try on a more melee focused character. What should I use?

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The GOLDEN LIGHTNING FORTIFICATION has the wrong icon in this list, it has the same icon of the protection of the erdtree.

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Reject virgin Comet Azure. Embrace chad Carian Sword Spells.

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it would be awesome if they add Sleep spells in the DLC

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Entire game is centered around trees and nature = zero druid styled spells

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Srs question how do I do a playthrough focused on magic without dying of boredom? I want to try something new, but the most fun I had was clearing out Gatefront with the Lordsworn's Greatsword, and now I just want to do melee again.

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The fact we don't get a spell commanding scarlet rot butterflies ala Swarm of Flies, dealing some physical and some scarlet rot build up alongside pretty orange butterflies is m i s e r a b l e

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They really didn't have to remove pyromancy. It was a cool additional playstyle that allowed true int-faith builds to exist. Int-faith that we have in Elden Ring is so underwhelming and disappointing.

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Add poison magic to either intelligence builds or incantations builds. Add a poison staff like the ones mushroom worshippers use and allow us to use poison magic. Also there's barely any poison bosses in the game that has any interesting lore and unless we count rot as poison.

Anyways, my point is add mushroom poison magic attacks since they are already utilised in the game and therefore should be able to be learned by the player, lore wise.

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Erdtree spells with plants attack. Please!
And more bubble, thorn, fire, ice, thunder, stone, stars spells.
What about chants to buff the players?

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great

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I miss chain-casting. Yeah, it was an exploit, but so were wavedashing in Melee and even combos in Street Fighter II. But of course the scrubby Souls community would cry about something that makes the game objectively more interesting until it gets removed.

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would like more frost spells for a lich king build

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Currently running giants pyro incants with the Blasphemous Blade and Giants beard hair whip thingie... Trying to steal / Regen as much HP / FP as possible .. any suggestions welcomed

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there should be a dragon ending called the age of old where you follow greyoll quest line

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Would like death sorcery and some more black flame incantations

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I wish there were more Frozen Lightning spells. Actually, just more Frozen Lightning things in general.

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There should be just a regular fire buff like carthus flame arc from ds3

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idk if its just me but I personally just think incantations have a lot more variety, even though magic is way more op.

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Spell Boost. What is it, how is calculated, etc. No explanation whatsoever. Well done.

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I'm kinda torn on the spell list in this game. On one hand, I love variety. The sheer breadth of effects and flavor for spells unmached for games of this type, if not games in general.
But the flip side is that some of the magic types feel same-y or cramped. Having only two spells works for something like Full Moon Sorceries, since they're supposed to be the ultimate in big f**k-you blasting sorceries, but the Claymen Sorceries, for example, feel like they were just tossed in to fill the gap of sorceries with an arcane requirement. On the other hand, some spells feel like they got grouped in with each other to pad out the sub-school size and not because they actually have a strong thematic tie to each other.
Then there's the Dragon Communion Incantations + Placidusax's Ruin, which are certainly numerous and clearly connected, but they dilute the inherent "cool factor" of harnessing the power of dragon's breath over ELEVEN different spells when there's maybe three really distinctive effects between the lot of them. In contrast, simpler, less high concept ideas you might expect a few iterations of just don't have them. Outside of basic glintstone projectile sorceries and basic healing incantations, you're lucky to get a couple tiers of a spell. Weapon enhancements don't even get that much, and even Demon's Souls had two weapon damage buff spells.
All in all, I think I'd rather things were pared down a bit if it meant each school of magic could feel complete, but not overcrowded and still retain its own identity. Even dark spells from DS3 managed this better than some ER magic subtypes, despite being split and assimilated into the three main spell types.

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You know how Dragons Dogma had a light attack and heavy attack for archistaves which deal ranged magic damage so you could handle weaker enemies without needing to cast spells. I'd have thought by now they'd have done something similar with staffs, not super long range or high damage or anything, but something which means you can actually function as a staff user if you do run out of FP. Something cheap and cheerful that scales somewhat with INT and weapon level, means you'd have to actually find and learn your first spell and can 'finish off that group of mobs to get flasks back' because if you are a staff-and-robes purist and don't want subweapons or big bonks, you're stuck with a firm wack on the head until the next grace. The fact arrows and spells are still a finite resource is a shame.

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ho ho ho it's magic! you know!

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if anyone sees this tell me what is a staff that can carry to elden beast

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Fantasy rpg centred around a giant tree and there's no proper nature magic like roots, tendrils, vines and flowers. Not counting the thorn sorceries because they're made of blood, Scarlet aeonia is the closest we get - and melinas healing tree which we don't even have access to.

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Is there any point at all in having more than one copy of a spell per character? Does equipping 2 of the same spell do anything (if it's even possible; haven't tried yet) or am I better off just selling any extra copies I get in NG+?

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i dont care about efficiency or how much fp something saves in the long run. give me something grown up man. i wanna use spells that are legendary or was a ***** to get, i dont care how bad founding rain of stars is, or comet, or meteorite of astel is. theyre super badass and i like them.

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"Gallery (Inventory Sorted)" is the only way everything in this Wiki should be sorted. Im comparing my Inventory ingame with the Wiki to check what Items Ive missed, and because you can't sort Items by Alphabetical order in game, it becomes a nightmare.

By the way, the Gallery for Magic Inventory Sorted only has Incantations and is missing the Spells.

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I love how the fire incantations are named, I wish more games would experiment with unorthodox ability names like that.

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My ideas for a few more Death Sorceries: “Ominous Whispers” Unseen malevolent spirits whisper conspiracy in the victims ear, driving them into a violent paranoia and attacking friend and foe alike. (Makes target attack all nearby targets) “Death Bird Rite of Burial” An ancient rite known only to the Death Birds in setting bodies alight with ghost flame and setting the spirit free. As the body burns the soul is freed and the lingering essence of life is given to the rite caster. (Sets nearby bodies alight with ghost flame, destroying them and returning a % of health and FP to the player) “Living Death” A sorcery of unknown origin that temporary gives the user an experience in being dead. The user is immune to all poison and status ailments but is weak to holy and cannot heal. (Become immune to all status ailments but cannot use any healing spells or items and receives 20% extra damage from holy damage). Yeah I know, it will never happen but nevertheless it just shows there’s room for creativity in the game.

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Can you please sort spells and incantations in the same order as they are listed in-game? It' s harder to look after which ones I missed.

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ER spells >>>>> all other DS/BB spells

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Someone please add a 'Magic Gallery (Inventory Sorted)' section like the Spirit Ashes page. I know the 'Magic by Type' section exists but that's as useful as the 'Magic Gallery' when you're trying to find which spells you're missing. I'd do it myself but I have no idea how to use the editor, skill issue.

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Imagine a game where you had to press a button to change your weapon, and press another button to cycle a separate list of weapon skills (in order) until you hit the correct skill to match the weapon. If you do not match them correctly and attempt to use the skill, you are penalized with a three year long animation of you scratching your head and are not allowed to do basically anything until the animation finishes.
Imagine a game where you could only select weapons from your inventory while resting.
Imagine a game where you have to pay attention to a resource pool and if you try to swing a weapon without enough resource you are penalized with a three year long animation of you scratching your head and are not allowed to do basically anything until the animation finishes (swords still swing just not as hard).
Imagine playing Elden Ring as a pure caster.

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I've played many magic users in games going back for decades and the BIG THING I notice about the spells/incants in this game is that ALL the good AoE spell/incants are weapon arts. Quite simply, there are no spells that can compare to Waves of Gold, or even Taker's Flame. I really only realized this when I watched a streamer playing in Farem Azula and saw him clear a hallway that had been difficulty for me with spells with one use of the Blasphemous Blade weapon art.

Most of the spell/incant AoE magics have strong RNG components. For example, Ancient Dragon Lightning Strike is random. Rain spells have small area and are random. Explosive Ghostflame has limiting pattern. It's pretty telling that to farm experience on the ledge, people use weapon arts. The best casting AoE's are the dragon breaths, but they have less range and seem a lot less effective. Sorcery casters are left out entirely when it comes to good AoEs. I think Taker's Flame is as good as any of the breaths and it costs a lot less FP if using the Carian Filagreed Crest. For me it hits for around 2700 damage and one-shots most end-game trash mobs. The same can't be said of any of the AoE spells/incants. There's no similar way to decrease FP on sorcs/incants w/o taking a HP hit.

I basically feel like anyone trying to play a pure caster gets shafted on AoEs because they have to rely on weapon arts to fill gaps.

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Fromsoft need to stop giving so much attention to multiplayer...a Lot of cool concepts were clearly wasted or abandoned for the sake of "balance " of course It needs balance, but come on, some salty nerd whines about a spell,weapon and Fromsoftware chickens out. The game is great, but It could haver been the game off the decade, no exageration, but they focused too much on balance and left out the Fun factor at the side, giving a monotomous feeling to most of the spells,weapons.

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I was looking for a list of all sorceries and incantations but there's no one telling me to level Vigor so I guess I'm in the wrong place.

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Could you put them in order lol

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Any idea why you keep your feet planted with sorceries, and step forward with many incantations? To the point of walking off whatever high ground you have maneuvered to?

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Hoping the dlc adds more conjured weapon type spells, especially for incantations. All we get in ER is two bows (just another blue projectile), and gavel is just a worse aoe explosion than cannon that looks cooler, all the carian sword spells except piercer are reskins of ds3's sword spells. Iconic spells of ds3 such as lifehunt scythe, flame fan, dark edge, old moonlight were fun to get creative with in pvp but in ER all you can really do is abuse chain casting for melee spells to combo and now that's gone. One carian slicer does more damage than any of the ds3 magic I listed anyway, so you don't even have an incentive to try to experiment.

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I bought Elden Ring, having played all the previous games... Except Sekiro... but I've pretty much abandoned it by this point... Maybe I'll come back again at a later time, but I've found myself incredibly bored with the entire thing because I feel like both builds I was most interested in attempting are almost crippled for a variety of utterly atrocious design decisions... I guess I think that being open world has multiplied and exacerbated the few issues that the previous games had, and nothing they've added has acted as any sort of counterbalance... I started a game, got all the way to Farum Azula, and then realized that I think I... I think I don't like this game... It's not a bad game, it's actually fairly good, but I was expecting a fantastic game, and the disappointment is overwhelming.

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Why is there a weapon buff for every damage type but simple fire?

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typo for noble presence, it says unelash, instead of unleash.

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Catch Flame + Magma was such a cool combo, hopefully From will reintroduce a proper consistent cast combo system in future DLCs. Without it being too quirky in PvE or too broken in PvP. After 1.05 even Bestial Sling stopped benefitting from cast time reduction, what the hell.

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Catch Flame + Magma was such a cool combo, hopefully From will reintroduce a proper consistent cast combo system in future DLCs. Without it being too quirky in PvE or too broken in PvP. After 1.05 even Bestial Sling stopped benefitting from cast time reduction, what the hell.

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Chain-Casting has been removed from the game!

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Thank god chain-casting is completely removed so I don’t have to think of cool combos or mixups. Finally I can just spam the same spell as it has always been intended.

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Yay now chaincasting is completely removed (kind of) several spell have become more or less useless

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Sorcerers got shafted in 1v1 pvp, you're 100% in need of a maxed Bleed/frostbite weapon to keep up with the tryhards on poise steroids.

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I miss the hexes from ds2, arguably the most unique and fun spells in the series

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Fromsoft basically wanted to make int/faith builds as bad as possible
-Death/Magma sorceries and Holy Order incantations need int AND faith, cool, just like hexes and pyromancies from the other games right?
-a dedicated int/faith build is the most stat hungry build in the game, needing 50/50 int/faith to do good damage since the Prince of Death's staff has trash scaling, plus the added stats for mind and vigor
-You get a grand total of about 8 dedicated sorceries and 2 dedicated incantations, with all but 3 or 4 being good enough to warrant the massive stat dump (Triple Rings, Ancient Death Rancor, and Rancorcall) <-- 2 of these are basically the same spell btw and you can only get 1 early game
-The best of these spells are still only decent compared to the top tier incantations/sorceries with some of the genuinely being the worst in the game (Tibia Summons sadface)
and now for the worst part of all

-The Death/Ghostflame/Magma/Holy Order weapons DON'T EVEN SCALE WITH BOTH STATS, Helphen's Steeple, Death's Poker, etc only scale with int and the Magma weapons/Golden Order Greatsword only scale with faith
-You get TWO weapons that scale with int/faith and one of them is the ****ing Clayman's Harpoon
It's like they just forgot to actually add hexers/pyromancers

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I hope they soon patch the casting glitches so we can chain cast without having to be careful not to do exploits

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I kinda wish arcane counted as like 0.5 fth and 0.5 int for the purposes of meeting requirements. So you could go arcane caster and be able to use the lower requirement incantations and sorceries but not being able to use the big bad versions without investing in int/fth. It kinda fits the idea of arcane being a more raw form of magic. Like wizard/cleric vs sorcerer in DnD. You kinda blend the lines between sorcery and incantation but don't have the knowledge or focus to be able to draw out the most power from either. It wouldnt have to be a weird behind the scenes calculation either it would just be like you can cast "X" if you have "Y" amount of int/fth OR "2•Y" arcane. I know it probably won't happen but I thought it was a cool idea.

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gez so many spells

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Okay, I got bored and decided to test out some stuff.

Ended up making a character with 99 Int + 99 Fth and a +25 Prince of Death Staff and +10 Golden Order Seal for 448 Sorcery Scaling and 418 Incant Scaling and then tested out the damage of all spells. [Note: I didn't use talismans or flasks to boost damage]

For targets, I used the Trolls around the Stormgate area as they have few resistances. The exceptions were Litany of Proper Death which only does decent damage against skeletons (Not including Tibia Mariners) and Unescapable Frenzy which only works on Tarnished. So I used skeletons in Deathtouched Catacombs and Flame Guardians in Guardian's Garrison respectively.

I put the results in a google document found here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WgZM9p0mAfP0Nh2TtoLx8O3hFyyOO7BVixjQOC__3FM/edit?usp=sharing

I also compared the FP costs while I was at it. It's worth noting that there are some things you should consider with these numbers, such as how PoDS and GOS give bonuses to Death and Golden Order spells respectively.

In addition, some spells (Like Gelmir's Fury, Death Lightning, Burn, O Flame!, Rykard's Rancor etc) are random in how often they can hit sometimes they hit 0 times against a giant troll in your face, other times they might hit 5+ times. For the most part, I used the average number of hits I landed against the Trolls (With exception of Rykard's because enemies like Elden Beast, Plasidusax, Ulcerated Tree Spirits, Erdtree Avatars etc. are all possible to land the full 12 hits against consistently due to their large size and periods of immobility)

Also, Black Flame spells and Black Blade do extra percent health damage to targets that is not reflected in the spreadsheet as it will vary based on target (With bosses being ideal for melting with such damage)

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#BRINGBACKPYROMANCIES

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Im trying to do some low level invasions using the dragon spells. I'm limiting myself by not using the rotten breath since scarlet rot is very hard to cure at low levels and that would be really mean. So I'm currently only using dragonfire and dragonclaw. But I've been wondering whether dragon spells are too strong at low levels and I shouldn't use them at all? What do you think? Is it too mean to use any of them on low level players?