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This spell deserves a bigger hitbox, the visual lies so much about the actual hitbox that you'll often miss entirely when trying to hit multiple enemies like the visual suggest you could, especially when fully charged.

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Giant's seal, Giant's seal, that means new game+ b*tches

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the hitbox for this thing is really weird. it should be much larger if we are going by the size of the flame it creates. i was able to hit enemies twice with a single cast somehow, i think its because they were staggered into a different hitbox of the spell or something? anyways i prefer this over catch flame because it does way more damage and looks more powerful. catch flame is better in pvp, but it doesnt benefit from the pyromancer build, i.e. the giants seal and godfrey talisman

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Underrated, imo. Does huge damage when charged, major poise damage, and is cheap. Pretty good ambush spell in PVE. Pair with godfrey's icon to turn it into a blunderbuss.

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O flame is equivalent to Carian greatsword for faith. Oflame is able to chain stagger knight class to death just like carian greatsword can. It saves from dancing around with catch flame or slicer. Things get more stable with more cast speed.

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just use catch flame it's faster and it costs less FP. unless you want to use more FP and a little more damage.

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Has slow casting time.

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the hitbox is jank but GOD does this thing chunk

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Give this the Fire Monks animation please

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Oneshotting people in pvp with this baby, very underrated

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the hitbox is very wide, but doesn't span very far forward. thats why it looks like it should go further than it does

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Combos into many spells. It should be hard to land cuz if you do the opponent is basically dead so stop whining about this being useless.

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Does this break guard/stance like blackflame/combustion on ds3? I dont wanna use FoTm id like to break guards with a pyromancy spell again. Gonna test in invasions for now

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Radagon + Godfrey icons + fire scorpion charm + flock's canvas = 1shot

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Been enjoying this with invasions, if people are super aggressive. Use endure AOW directly into a charged O, Flame. The endure will prevent you from staggering and vastly increase damage resistance for enough time to cast. In some cases, people get one shot if they haven't levelled vigor

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Either give us the lunge the Fire Monks have or increase the range of the blast significantly. I don't think just increasing the speed is a good buff, because then it would just be a better catch flame, and I don't know about you, but I'm not a big fan of a spell being strictly better than the other. It's nice to have variety and alternatives

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Big owie spell

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I wish this was the flame lunge incantation attack that the Fire Monks sometimes use.

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Still O' Lame even after the buff. You are probably done casting two Catch Flame once you are done charging this spell.
Black Flame Combustion when, From?

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Maybe a bigger hitbox to make up for its casting speed?

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Decent in pve with radagon icon.

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Pretty great when you can find an opening as of 1.04. Still kinda slow, but hits like a bus when it connects.

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The problem with O, Flame! currently is the cast speed, I think they should've made it more expensive and almost as fast as Catch Flame so it would be the burst version of it that could be much more viable on bosses which are the prime targets players would want to use it on.

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The black flame monk in volcano manor casts the black flame version of this spell. I wish we could get it. DLC?

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By the time you use this you could have used Catch Flame 3 times. Its hitbox doesn't linger as long as the animation plays either. It needs another damage buff and also the hitbox needs to linger longer. Otherwise Bloodflame talons is better and cheaper in every way or just go with catch flame.

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It hurts a lot now when it hits, but it is still so slow that I feel like it is impossible to hit on any opponent. I'd be fine with them nerfing the damage back to what it was previously if they gave this better cast speed. You can't even mix up with Catch Flame since this has the fire monk sigil, while Catch Flame has no sigil, so they know it is a different spell from the get go.

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Problem is that speed is everything. Maybe if it lunged forward like the fire monks do. They have good range.

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Damage is buffed as per 1.04
Maybe viable in pve
Surely still not viable in pvp. They should improve the initial cast time of this spell.

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In pve, it's situational, and possibly only if your running giants seal. Vs basic enemies normal combustion is better 90% of the time but where it really shines is poise-y enemies that you'll have decent attack opportunities(enough for the charged version) with. i.e. many bosses, it has very, very good poise dmg, like colossal r2 to charged r2 poise dmg, leading to vastly more staggers and thus potentially higher and safer dps. As for pvp I've yet to try it but I suspect between it and the normal combustion having three possible release timings of the same animation could lead to a great mix with a major limiting factor being it's meager range, so it would be complimented by a good ranged poke i.e decent ranged pressure spells(slow chase-down type spells especially, possible use for flame fell god here if you can manage the fp cost) and/or weapon with good range like spears, g-spears, halberds, scythes, whips(namely the magma whip and giants braid being fire dmg and faith scalding) ect.
-Dh

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This incantation is broken now. Does 99% of the damage as giantsflame

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Does anybody know how well this is at breaking guards for shields?

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Much slower casting than the normal combustion. Kinda pathetic.

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Great Combustion is back, baby!

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Whack as hell we can’t use the black flame variant the black flame monks can. Wtf From..

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I think all this needs is of course more damage, but definitely more stagger damage to move apart from Catch Flame, since they could both exist as viable incantations, one being fast and swift damage and the other being slow, heavy posture breaking damage. I think it would make the choices between these two nearly identical incantations to be more diverse and appeal to a wider set of play styles, which an open world game could always use more of.

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This spell was hits for nearly 2k when charged up for me and Catch flames is only hiting aroubd 800. I think this spell only shines when you have the Fire Scorpian charm, Giants seal, and Godfreys Talisman. Its basically doing x2.1 more damage when not charged compared to my Catch Flames and x2.5 more damage when fully charged with more stagger damage. I had 80 Faith and used Erdtree seal (357 Inc scaling) as my spell casting hand in my right and put Giants seal in my left for the passive buff.

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Kinda wish we got the lunge/dash version like in the flame monk move set

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By the time you charge this you could have done 2 Catch Flames which do way more damage.

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yeah this spell is ****ing awful, less dps than catch flame, less damage per fp than catch flame, this spell either needs to have a way bigger range than catch flame or have the same cast speed as catch flame because right now its pretty useless.

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Why is it so slow? I feel like Incantations were the last thing Fromsoft made and they just wanted it to not be OP. Ekzyke's decay seems like an oversight.

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Cost 10 FP in my game while the wiki says 12 0w0

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It can stun.

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A good mix up if you like to use Catch Flame often in a fight.

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Idk what's with the people in the comments but Catch Flame is 10 FP, 8 Faith.

From the numbers posted it's consistent with the increase in FP cost, and when charged, seems more efficient.

Per cast at least, chaining has value.

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Uses too much FP compared to Catch Flame. Also catch flame can combo. Not really worth it unless a group of enemis and you have plenty of FP to spare.

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If carian slicer can get a FP cost reduction I don't see why this theoretically useless spell can't get one aswell

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Another anon already mentioned below that there is no reason to run this over Catch Flame. But there's no reason to run it PERIOD. Damage and range especially is far too low, even when charged and used together with Giant's Seal. You're much better off investing 15 into Arcane and use Bloodflame Talons, which has better reach and more damage, is faster to execute and also gives you access to bleed.

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Flame, O Flame, all the more Flame, O flame

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Pretty much worse than catch flame. 60% more FP to cast for 20% more damage, or 40% more if charged up, so it's less efficient per FP used. However, it's so slow to cast, that catch flame could have been cast multiple times in the same time, making catch flame better efficiency and DPS.

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Seen somebody one shot Tree Sentinel with this. But I personally prefer Catch Flame for the dps.

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So this spell has x2 the faith requirement and costs %60 more fp than catch flame but has almost double the cast time, can't be chained and only does marginally more damage? there seems to be a lot of oversights related to spell balance in this game.

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too weak

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Fire Monks' Prayer Book link is dead

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118% the damage of Catch flame with a longer cast time. Charged version deals 144% the damage of Catch Flamce

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catch flame is better in dps i think. Catch flame is so fast that it out damages this. i tested it on tree sentinel and o flame only did 20 more dmg. Also fire is busted early

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