Ashes of War | Elden Ring Wiki

basically took the place of pyromancy as a form of low stat commitment magic. every standard weapon is like a catalyst with an attunement slot on it

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I want an ash of war where the tarnished picks someone up by their running them through and then slams them into the ground. That would be so cool.

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I really appreciate the 'Buff Weapon' Ashes of War (flame strike, sacred blade, lightning slash etc) is because they are a proactive process where the tarnished is using them as an attack while simultaneously buffing their weapon. So much more engaging than stand still and slowly apply a bit of paper over the weapon while you can't do anything.

Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk.

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I'm a little confused. Lightning ashes can be used to grant a weapon the sacred affinity, but their l2s still scale exclusively with dex making it a poor choice for faith builds? The fire affinity scales with strength and the flame art affinity scales with faith, but fire ashes can grant the flame art affinity and flame art ashes can grant the fire affinity? So if I have something like Flame of the Redmanes but I'm using it on the flame art affinity, is the l2 going to scale with strength of faith?

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There are so many ashes of war and I only use like 4.

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I want a dragon punch/shoryuken ash of war for fists. And I mean the actual thing, where it comes out extremely quick and absolutely messes up people who like to spam jump attacks ON REACTION.

Even if it had absolutely no hitbox in front of you, just give it an abnormally giant hitbox that extends well above the player's fist. I want to let those jump attack spammers know that they are not safe, and that I can invade their safe space both in-game and irl with ease.

Alternatively, give me Anti-Air Deathblow from Sekiro.

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Am I daft or are we missing at least one shield ash of war here? (Golden land, I believe)

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I need The Kaiden Sellsword 2h Curved sword parry / strike!! Even if its a block / strike like Carian Knight sword charged R2, the look of it is really a beautiful animation... Since the very first one I fought I was like ooo that looks mint I need thier sword so I can do that - then after getting one as a summon I became jealous and eventually started making him solo Royal Revenants, but he just smokes them like a cheap cigar :( I love you My Sellsword bastard.

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I doubt it will happen, but I hope we get some Fai/int affinities in the DLC as those builds could really use it.

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My goto ash of war nowadays seems to be Packet Loss

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I would give away half of the catacombs/caverns and the entire Snowfield + Haligtree area in exchange for more unique movesets and ashes of war instead of the 10y old r1, r2 from Demon Souls. Not to mention the entire mess the smithing stones system is compared to Somber, which goes against the ashes of war variety. Also, Sekiro is a game that exists, but Miyazaki seems to have forgotten that.

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Kinda sucks we have 0
Dragon communion AoW’s banished knights in caelid have one and I need it

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micheal zaki i want the bone fist hadouken and drop kick back please

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getting crap load of players spamming spinning slash now after patch 1.10

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On the location for Sword Dance all it says is, "near the minor erdtree in southwest Liurnia. This is a little vague and not entirely accurate as you cant actually see the minor erdtree from the location of the scarab. A more accurate description would be that it was found, "on the path leading down to Roads-End Catacombs."

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It's basically choose your color of aoe

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I hope we get more blood ashes, there is nothing for bonk weapons.

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I want a mikiri counter ash of war. Would be fitting considering how powerful thrusting and pokey attacks are in pvp.

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Enable the Magic spell AoWs (Maybe Gravitas and WoD too) to be put on staffs. Right now, there is literally 1 staff AoW, and it's completely useless when actually put onto staffs - bizarrely, putting Spinning Weapon on swords / spears / etc. makes for a fairly good L2 on most of them, but put it on a staff? lolnope: damage is beyond pathetic.

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Wow, can't believe this game features upwards of 50 unsatisfying gimmicks. Truly one of the systems of all time.

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Does the size of your weapon effect the reach of your ash of war? I.e if i put something like piercing fang on a short spear vs on a pike

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More weapon types need unique ashes of war. It's insane how much love certain weapon types get, whereas the whips have zero ashes of war that use the whips to attack. It's crazy because they already have decent whip animations with things like the fire giant whip or the lava whip, but for whatever reason there is no ash of war variant of either that can be applied to standard whips.

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WHERE ARE THE DLC ASHES

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Here's an idea. People do miss hybrid weapon catalysts. But instead of making those, i think it would be nice to implement a talisman that converts equipped spells into ashes of war, and the weapon's affinity would change with the last weapon art chosen. So catalysts, seals, etc couldn't be used and stat requirements would still be in effect, but as ashes of war at the cost of a talisman slot.

It would take quite the headache to balance, but just imagine a great spear chaining charge forth + gelmir's fury.

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There needs to be more purple magic ones like PLEASE it looks epic

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we need more Lightning type AoW

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Is it wring that I feel like Ashs are stronger then spells a lot of the time?

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There needs to be more ashes for Staves and bows.

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It would be great if there existed legendary war ashes similar to legendary armaments and talismans, but having them would only create another achievement that would obstruct obtaining the platinum.

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Wish weapons arts were equipped in spell slots. Not sure if it would make the game more busted or less busted, but it would make it more interesting, I think.

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Does anyone know if there is a way to get arcane scaling on a hammer?

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Does anyone know if there is a way to get arcane scaling on a hammer?

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Here’s hoping we get Frenzied and Rot Ashes

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For anyone wondering, Twinblades can accept the most Ashes of War (56), followed by Greatswords (53) and Straight Swords/Katana (52).

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Really hope the DLC adds some anime style skills like what ds3 had.

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This wiki is always super helpful I've used it to get all the sorceries/incantations , talismans but going for the ashes of war using this wiki is a pain because it's not organized to look the same as the game whereas the talismans and spells were only problem I have with the wiki cause it makes confirming which ashes of war I have a egg hunt

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a whopping 2 flame art ashes, both are found very late game, both limited to certain weapon types, one of them is a blackflame so if youre cosplaying / trying to match, that narrows things down even more depending on what you want.

are you kidding me.
im hoping the dlc adds more flame art ashes

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There's no frenzy, sleep or death ash of war... yet.

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Would love to see a bloodflame Ash of War. Maybe it riffs off of Bloodflame Talons, and is exclusive to fists and claws?

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They couldn't have added like one special skill for whips?

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Kinda don’t like the ashes of war balance, when I actually use them I just find myself out trading enemies. At times it feels like the rest of the move set is irrelevant and I should just hit l2.

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Need more storm ashes

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really missing an int/faith and a raw infusion. Also missing dark damage.

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Storm Blade isn't dropped by the Grave Warden in Murkwater Catacombes. That's a mistake.

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I wish we had an ability to switch between multiple ashes of war mid fight, at least 2, but ideally 3. This would make ashes of war focused builds so fun and diverse

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Society if lifesteal fist had a stronger forward lunge

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it's dissapointing that we didn't get any black flame ash of war's .

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When will we get a dropkick ash of war for fist weapons, From

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Been playing through the game again and realized this system is actually sick wtf

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no fp data? awww.

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When will we get the option to disable these in colosseum duels

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There is no such thing as 'spell-based' or hybrid. It's bullet and enhanced.

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INT users got F'ed over with 0 magic armament buff ashes of war. Even faith users on sacred have sacred blade. Every non physical damage type except for magic gets one. Flame strike, sacred blade, chilling mist, poison moth flight, lightning slash. "But INT users can buff with magic weapon, and frozen armament!" And faith users can too with electrify armament, blackflame blade, bloodflame blade, orders blade.

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Would love to see a version of square of or unsheathe for great swords.

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Change "excepted" to "exempted"

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two flame art ashes lmao

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1.08 players wsg

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two lightning. ho hum

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There's a lot of info on this page for which I'm grateful. But as a relative newcomer what I want to know is which of these is best for certain situations. I'm now standing before Sorcerer Rogier and he has 3 ashes of war to sell, but I haven't the foggiest if any of them are useful to me. It's all a bit amorphous. I need damage numbers. Makes me think - "Why bother changing up? Stick with Bloody Slash." That's one of the first ones I got.

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Do weapon skills that have a circular area of effect when they are triggered, specifically spinning strikes, black-flame tornado and stormcaller have a larger AoE on a pike than a short-spear or does each of them have a consistent circumference regardless of the length of the weapon the AoW is put on?

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Do weapons do their damage type when an ash is used? As in; does a spear with spinning weapon do thrust damage per hit? Does a katana do slash damage if you use stormcaller? Does a hammer use strike if you use Stamp (upward cut)?

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Hear me out. What if instead of applying ashes onto weapons, you could slot them in the spell slots and applicable weapons used them akin to traditional spells? It would certainly feel better than having multiple copies of a weapon with different ashes in the inventory.

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"Patch 1.07: "Added a process to remove the Ash of War from weapons that cannot normally be combined with certain Ashes of War." Do we know what precisely that is?"

I can't post this as a reply for some reason, but there was an exploit that allowed people to put any ash onto any infuseable weapon regardless of weapon class and use them in online play, for example you could have Square Off on greatswords or Unsheathe on halberds, the "process" added in the patch flags those glitched weapons as invalid and reverts them to the default ash when equipped

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Patch 1.07: "Added a process to remove the Ash of War from weapons that cannot notmally be combined with certain Ashes of War." Do we know what precisely that is? I thought it might allow us to remove Ash of War locked to unique Weapons, so it has none. This would be useful for the purple Torch perhaps, as offhanding it forces you to use it's unique Skill instead. But I haven't found this "process" yet- did I misunderstand it or is this something yet to be discovered? And if it's my lack of understanding, then what specifically got affected by this? I would appreciate if someone could ellaborate on this!

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Quality infusion may as well not even exist. You don't see significant gains over heavy or keen until close to 99/99 and they never become so significant, it's more like a "oh I get 12 more AR on quality than keen now that I've invested 40 more levels in str, guess I'll go quality" situation. But even then! Some weapons get +10% poise damage when using their "intended" affinity, like Heavy on most great hammers or Keen on most curved swords. Nothing gets bonus poise damage with quality. The only reason to level both Str and Dex so much is if you're going for max level or you really like Bloodhound's Fang. You can meet base Dex requirements for every weapon you want to use, put the difference in Str, infuse everything Heavy and hit harder than a quality build otherwise.

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In the age of the ancient the world was unformed, shrouded by fog. A land of gray R1 spammers, straight swords and everlasting stamina. But then came Elden Ring and with Elden ring came new mechanics. Horse-riding and walking, bonfires and graces and of course, L2 spam and R1 spam. Then, from the R1 they came and founded the souls of the noobs. Irithyll Straight Sword User, first of the R1...Dark Sword Fallen Knight and their children of edginess... Pontiff Knight Curved Sword Guy, the Lord of Whiff Punishes and his faithful Meta Slaves... And the Furtive GUTS Cosplayers, so easily forgotten.... With the strength of R1 they challenged the L2. PKCS Man's mighty roll catches peeled the L2 Spammer's 10 vigor. The Edgelords edge-walked so hard the L2 Spammers slit themselves and died of cringe. Irithyll Straight Sword User unleashed a miasma of R1s and Frostbite. And Rivers of Blood user the nerfed betrayed his own and the L2 spammers were no more...

And thus began the age of R1. But soon, the R1 will fade and only L2 will remain. Even now, noobs see not R1 but only endless L2 spam. And amongst the living are seen the Accursed Ashes of war spam. Yes, indeed. The Ash of War spam brands the noobs. And in this land, L2 spammers are corralled and sent to the north to await the death of Elden Ring pvp.

This.....Is your fate...

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Why does the Quality infusion even exist when it has less damage than pure strength/dex in most levels?

Strength = Fire, Physical
Dexterity = Lightning, Physical
Intelligence = Magic,Cold
Faith = Holy, Flame, Black Flame
Arcane = Poison, Occult, Blood
Quality = Physical, ???

Quality is only good at using many different weapons and while that's fun, I don't feel it's okay to give all others these powers and yet give quality nothing in terms of infusions choices. Maybe a DLC will give us a new element to the table, but it's highly unlikely. But it sure would make the quality a much better choice.

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I wish there was a ash of war for katanas only or just all sword type weapons like this move from the game nioh called flowing shadow its a move that dose 3 rapid hits while moving behind the enemy.

So basically as the character move from front of the enemy to behind you do 3 quick hits ending up behind the enemy would love a move like that loved using it in nioh.

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Do some spell AoWs have different damage based on weapon class despite neing the same upgrade level?
I've tested Thunderbolt, the results were:
- +24 Heavy thrusting swords, Twinblades, & Katanas = 916 damage
- +24 Other weapon class = 878 damage

so any explanations?
I didn't use boosting gears like Spear Talisman of physick flask

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Am I the only thinking that it would be fun if we could be able to upgrade these AoW.... And also be able to change the AoW on most unique weapons except boss weaponry

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Are there any blood based ash or wars that are compatible with colossal weapons?

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dont use barbaric roar on twinblades, it just looks so, so wrong

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>Dark souls 3
>Lightning is tied to faith
>Meh damage type, outclassed by magic and especially dark
>Elden ring
>Lightning is tied to dex
>Literally the best damage type in the game
>Faith lightning is still mediocre somehow, best spells have better versions in dex AoW
>jesuswept.png

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Can we get a version of transient moonlight in the DLC or maybe one akin to the farron flashsword spell in DS3?

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This list show wrong information. War cry, barbaric roar and braggarts roar can not be used on whips.

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This page is wrong in saying all weapons are two handed when using an AoW it just isn't true. I used sword dance on a greatsword for a decent chunk of the early game with a brass shield and the shield wasn't on my back when I'd cast it. Bolt of gransax weapon art is one handed, spinning chain on flails, bloodhound step does not require a dagger to be in both hands to work, there's quit a long list of AoW that do not need the weapon to be in both hands to work.

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I like it when da number big

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I miss R1 spam.

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Just get rid of skills and ashes of war they mess up all the balance

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pls nerf redmanes they're too strong.

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Does duel welding the same ash of war do more damage when we press L2 then weapons with different ash of war when?

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There is a lack of downward strikes, I was hoping I would find one for my build, gonna have to be lightning slash

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very upset about how little ashes of war there are, and so many missed abilities as well. fr, if AoW was supposed to be what makes Elden rings combat dif from the rest of the soulsborne games. Why did they add a bunch of lame ones, not many of them, and not put certain boss attacks on them. and the somber weapons that use ashes of war despite being able to put the exact same thing on a better weapon, just, why, also take for example nebula, why tf isnt that a AoW. I just feel like they skimped on the system and it shows.

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Please add FP cost to this table, would be very helpful.

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Crackpot idea: What if we were allowed to put multiple ashes of war on our weapons instead of only a single one?

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Fire is rarely a downgrade from heavy, especially since it can be buffed easily. Im pretty torn on aow, variety is good, but most of it is useless. I have 32/32 str/dex and quality is still outclassed by heavy, and im using a claymore, so Its most probably not because of a bad weapon

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Ashes themselves are not the problem. The whetstones are the REAL problem. Too many combinations that make others redundant or that should have only been on certain builds.

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Ashes of war were a mistake it has only led to people using the strongest weapon they can find with the best ash of war so we get nothing but robs bhs and seppeku awesome job ruining the pvp experience

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Strangely, you can't use the alternative whetstone knives before you obtain the normal one from Hewg.

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You know, with how fire damage is so gimped in this game with many enemies resistant to it and having it's performance depend on the weather, you'd expect flame art would be to faith builds what cold is to intelligence builds, having a bit more physical scaling to make up the elemental difference between it and sacred/magic.

But nope! Flame art has identical scalings to sacred, just with a worse damage type. Which is saying a lot considering how bad holy damage is, very disappointing.

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this cant be all of the ashes of war, whats the best aow for straight sword then??

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Could someone order this page by inventory please. It is rather annoying not to see what you are still missing

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I really hate how the Ash of War pages are different than the actual corresponding skill pages; having to view two pages to see where to find the thing and also what it does is really annoying but at this point it'd be a nightmare to undo...

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would be nice if the table included FP costs

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Ashes of War are little more than a novelty, without a mod to unlock their use on any weapon -- especially for staves. The limitations placed on what can be equipped to what, is only surpassed in inexplicable FromSoft stupidity by the dated co-op mechanics restrictions (again, circumventable via mods). I really hope they bring the game up to open-world speed, and remove all these unnecessary, fun-killing restrictions...

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I'm seeing something rather awkward right now. Equipping any AoW on any weapon shows Magic and Sacred dealing the same amount of damage, but my faith is 80 and my int is 24. What's the deal with that?

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The first Fromsoft game where trying different builds feels like I'm nerfing myself to a challenge run.
In DS2 I loved the Partizan, same in DS3 until I found the Bloodlust katana, in ER I can could have both and then found out the secret sauce that is Seppuku on War Saw, and now doing a basic STR or DEX build feels so dumb to use when I know I could be shaving off minutes from boss fights with bleed.

Like seriously using a one handed axe feels like I'm using a damn ladle for a meme run.

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They really should reduce the base damage and increase the stat scaling of the elemental ashes, right now they are far too strong with no stat investment, the difference is only 12-15% between 10 and 60 in the related stat for most of them

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Broken skills all over the shop…you’ll use one of them…sooner or later

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TLDR: Elemental ashes of war will always scale with one stat regardless of a basic affinity being used. Sacred ashes' Holy damage will always scale with Faith, even without any Faith scaling. Fire damage from Fire affinities will always scale with Strength, Flame Art fire damage will always scale with Faith, magic damage will always scale with Int. The one exception I haven't tested is blood projectiles, like Bloody Slash which normally scale with Arc but deal physical damage.

To test this I used the Flame of the Redmanes, which is a Fire affinity by default, meaning it has only Strength and a little bit of Dex scaling, and no faith scaling. So, I tested the damage for the flame on one of the soldiers by the gatefront site of grace, with a default Fire, Heavy, and Flame Art affinity. What I found was that it always scales with strength. Whenever I used the Heavy affinity, which has no fire damage on the weapon but higher Strength scaling, the fire damage of the weapon art increased because of the higher Strength Scaling. Then, I switched it to Flame Art, which also adds fire damage to a weapon but makes it so that said damage scales with Faith. I used the weapon art, and it did less damage than the Fire and Heavy affinities because of Flame Art's lower Strength scaling, and I tested boosting my Faith with some talismans and the damage remained unchanged.

I also tried a similar thing with the Sacred Blade, which deals pure holy damage with a base Sacred affinity. When I switched to a purely Heavy affinity, the damage increased bc the Faith Scaling was removed, but the damage was still quite high, less than a 10% decrease. Then, I tested Keen which has higher Dex scaling and lower Strenght, because my character has lower Dex so I wanted to see if they affected the damage, and if they did it would have decreased, but it remained the same. Then, I equipped the Faith boosting talismans with the Keen affinity, so there was no Faith scaling, but damage STILL increased.

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