Ash of War: Thunderbolt |
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| Affinity | Lightning |
| Skill | Thunderbolt |
| Effect | Grants affinities and skills to an armament. |
Ash of War: Thunderbolt is an Ash of War and Upgrade Material in Elden Ring. Ash of War: Thunderbolt provides the Lightning affinity and the Thunderbolt Skill. Ashes of War can be used to modify the Skill of an equipment piece, or to apply affinities that modify scaling values.
This Ash of War grants an armament the Lightning affinity and the following skill:
"Thunderbolt: Skill used by the capital's ancient dragon cult. Raise armament aloft to call down a bolt of lightning. Can be fired in rapid succession."
Usable on all melee armaments.
Ash of War: Thunderbolt Location in Elden Ring
Where to find Ash of War: Thunderbolt:
- Dropped by a Teardrop Scarab in Leyndell, Royal Capital. From the Avenue Balcony site of Grace, head down the stairs and pass through the gate, follow the railings on the left side up to the sleeping Commoner, from which the Teardrop Scarab should be visible down below.
- This can not be obtained in Leyndell, Ashen Capital.
Ash of War: Thunderbolt Elden Ring Guide
- Grants Thunderbolt all Melee weapons.
- Provides the Lightning affinity, which adds Lightning Damage, but decreases Base Damage and Strength Scaling.
- Can be used with the following affinity Upgrades: Standard, Heavy, Keen, Quality, Lightning, Sacred
- Can be applied to the following weapon categories, so long as the weapon allows skill replacement: Daggers, Straight Swords, Greatswords, Colossal Swords, Curved Swords, Curved Greatswords, Katanas, Twinblades, Thrusting Swords, Heavy Thrusting Swords, Hammers, Great Hammers, Axes, Greataxes, Flails, Spears, Great Spears, Halberds, Reapers, Fists, Claws, Whips, Colossal Weapons
Elden Ring Ash of War: Thunderbolt Notes & Tips
- Thunderbolt damage scales with base Weapon Damage, which is improved via upgrading, and Dexterity scaling only. This means this Skill will do the most damage on a weapon that has high base damage and good Dexterity scaling.
- Keen affinity will outperform the Lighting affinity in terms of pure Thunderbolt damage on any weapon that has good Dexterity scaling if you have high Dexterity.
- Thunderbolt deals 100% Lightning damage.
Anonymous52 str 13 dex +25 greatsword
Heavy AR 808
Keen AR 552
Thunderbolt damage on radahn soldiers
Heavy 601
Keen 661
The attack seems to be weapon base + dex scaling and nothing to do with actual AR
TLDR; Terrible option for ranged attack on heavy weapons
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AnonymousI've been seeing this every third PvP match or so at level 125. It is quite something.

AnonymousPut this on a +25 Great Knife or Parrying Dagger with the Keen affinity, level Dex, and bam you're now a better Lightning mage than actual Faith casters.

AnonymousEven on a strength build, it's a low cost, fast projectile that does decent damage. I use this and Beast's Roar on my Greatsword and does wonders in PvP (Estus punish, Roll punish). Definitely would recommend since it's very easy to use

Anonymousthis thing has the same damage as lighting bolt, faster cast time and is less telegraphed. What is the ****ing point of using incantations if weapon arts do the same thing but better.

"This means this Skill will do the most damage on a Weapon that has high base damage and good Dexterity Scaling, which most Halberds have."
...Most Halberds scale better with Strength. What the heck is this on about?
Anonymousnot the most common ash to be seen in pvp, so most people can't tell what the animation conveys. since you can also chain it, it's at least 2 hits against unaware opponents (900+ damage)

Anonymousso basically this thing allows non casters to do nearly as much damage as a pure caster does with honed bolt. can be pretty annoying to go against in a 1v2

AnonymousFor my testing, the ash of war damage is the same regardless of the weapon base damage. For example, a colossal weapon deal the same damage with a dagger at level 1.

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AnonymousNgl, after seeing this all I’m thinking is “imma put this on my Morning Star and make Tonitrus 2: Electric Boogaloo”.

AnonymousMan on a dex build you're basically a better caster with this than other pure casters, minus the infinite FP stars of ruin spam cheese. Start up on this is faster than most spells and and does good damage with the right talismans. Also maybe this is just me running into people that don't know the timing to dodge this, but it seems like any amount of latency throws off the dodge timing for this.

The skill deals Lightning Damage and it scales with your Dexterity and base weapon attack. I suggest using Lance with this. You can put keen infusion on this weapon and it will scale better than Lightning Infusion.
Lance+25 with Keen Infusion only has B Dex scaling, however the base damage is quite big. With 80 dex, the Thunderbolt on Lance outdamage Thunderbolt on Keen Nagakiba +25 with A Dex Scaling and even out damage the Keen Urumi +25 with S Dex Scaling.
Other infusions that does not have Dex Scaling don't increase Thunderbolt damage.
On a +25 Guardians swords pear, With 50 dex and 50 faith, this weapon art deals more damage e with a keen infusion rather than lightning or sacred infusion.

So according to a comment a few days ago, lighting ashes of war doesn't seems to scales with faith even if you use sacred infusion. It only scales with dexterity and lighting damage. However, would only using physical infusions and then using Electrify Armament to boost the lighting damage of the ashes of war work? If it does then it would allow for faith builds to benefit from lighting ashes of war instead of just dex builds.

AnonymousThe comment about not being able to get this after the erdtree is burning is incorrect. I just got this while exploring parts of the capital that I missed while I was on my way to the giant's mountain. I know for a fact that in my game the tree was on fire way before I got this.

AnonymousCan confirm that after you set the erdtree on fire, you can't get this ash of war and will have to get in new game+, so get this ash of war before this.

Anonymousif i scale my weapon with heavy does it affect the lightning dmg?

AnonymousThis skills damage (the bolt from the sky) scales with weapons lightning damage/dexterity, regardless of the infusion you chose. It isn't an incantation, so talismans that increase incantation damage don't work. Damage with +20 partizan on an albinauric sitting in Academy Gate Town:
[ 15 dex 50 faith, Sacred infusion: 533 ]
[ 15 dex 55 faith, Sacred infusion: 533 ]
[ 25 dex, 50 faith, Sacred infusion: 572 ]
[ 15 dex, 50 faith, Lightning infusion: 571 ]
[ 25 dex, 50 faith, Lightning infusion: 624 ]
AnonymousEquipped this Ash to the Giant-Crusher so I feel like Thor wielding Mjolner. Good times.

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AnonymousI’m a Strength build that never played as sorcerer in any from soft game and imo it’s nice having something that can do damage from a distance. I’ve been using it since I got it and now in endgame. There’s obv better skills in terms of damage and buildup but in terms of being able to do like 1500 damage with only 75 FP on a enemy from a distance is clutch

AnonymousAre you screwed if you miss this before the city is destroyed?

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AnonymousWhy is this ash of war a reskin of the honed bolt incantation but it scales with dex? there is already enough dex scaling ashes of war.

Previously this had "Can be found on the cliffs on the side path right before Stormveil Castle gate, guarded by Bladed Talon Eagles." Can anyone confirm if that is accurate?

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