Ash of War: Thunderbolt

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Affinity Lightning
Skill Thunderbolt
Effect Grants affinities and skills to an armament.

Ash of War: Thunderbolt is an Ash of War and Upgrade Material in Elden RingAsh of War: Thunderbolt provides the Lightning affinity and the Thunderbolt Skill. Ashes of War can be used to modify the Skill of an equipment piece, or to apply affinities that modify scaling values.

 

This Ash of War grants an armament the Lightning affinity and the following skill:

"Thunderbolt: Skill used by the capital's ancient dragon cult. Raise armament aloft to call down a bolt of lightning. Can be fired in rapid succession."

Usable on all melee armaments.

 

Ash of War: Thunderbolt Location in Elden Ring

Where to find Ash of War: Thunderbolt:

 

Ash of War: Thunderbolt Elden Ring Guide

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Thunderbolt Demonstration

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Thundering Sword Spear Written Guide

 

 

Elden Ring Ash of War: Thunderbolt Notes & Tips

  • Thunderbolt damage scales with base Weapon Damage, which is improved via upgrading, and Dexterity scaling only. This means this Skill will do the most damage on a weapon that has high base damage and good Dexterity scaling.
  • Keen affinity will outperform the Lighting affinity in terms of pure Thunderbolt damage on any weapon that has good Dexterity scaling if you have high Dexterity.
  • Thunderbolt deals 100% Lightning damage.

 

Elden Ring Ashes of War
Ash of War: Assassin's Gambit  ♦  Ash of War: Barbaric Roar  ♦  Ash of War: Barrage  ♦  Ash of War: Barricade Shield  ♦  Ash of War: Beast's Roar  ♦  Ash of War: Black Flame Tornado  ♦  Ash of War: Blood Blade  ♦  Ash of War: Blood Tax  ♦  Ash of War: Bloodhound's Step  ♦  Ash of War: Bloody Slash  ♦  Ash of War: Braggart's Roar  ♦  Ash of War: Carian Grandeur  ♦  Ash of War: Carian Greatsword  ♦  Ash of War: Carian Retaliation  ♦  Ash of War: Charge Forth  ♦  Ash of War: Chilling Mist  ♦  Ash of War: Cragblade  ♦  Ash of War: Determination  ♦  Ash of War: Double Slash  ♦  Ash of War: Earthshaker  ♦  Ash of War: Enchanted Shot  ♦  Ash of War: Endure  ♦  Ash of War: Eruption  ♦  Ash of War: Flame of the Redmanes  ♦  Ash of War: Flaming Strike  ♦  Ash of War: Giant Hunt  ♦  Ash of War: Glintblade Phalanx  ♦  Ash of War: Glintstone Pebble  ♦  Ash of War: Golden Land  ♦  Ash of War: Golden Parry  ♦  Ash of War: Golden Slam  ♦  Ash of War: Golden Vow  ♦  Ash of War: Gravitas  ♦  Ash of War: Ground Slam  ♦  Ash of War: Hoarah Loux's Earthshaker  ♦  Ash of War: Hoarfrost Stomp  ♦  Ash of War: Holy Ground  ♦  Ash of War: Ice Spear  ♦  Ash of War: Impaling Thrust  ♦  Ash of War: Kick  ♦  Ash of War: Lifesteal Fist  ♦  Ash of War: Lightning Ram  ♦  Ash of War: Lightning Slash  ♦  Ash of War: Lion's Claw  ♦  Ash of War: Loretta's Slash  ♦  Ash of War: Mighty Shot  ♦  Ash of War: No Skill  ♦  Ash of War: Parry  ♦  Ash of War: Phantom Slash  ♦  Ash of War: Piercing Fang  ♦  Ash of War: Poison Moth Flight  ♦  Ash of War: Poisonous Mist  ♦  Ash of War: Prayerful Strike  ♦  Ash of War: Prelate's Charge  ♦  Ash of War: Quickstep  ♦  Ash of War: Rain of Arrows  ♦  Ash of War: Raptor of the Mists  ♦  Ash of War: Repeating Thrust  ♦  Ash of War: Royal Knight's Resolve  ♦  Ash of War: Sacred Blade  ♦  Ash of War: Sacred Order  ♦  Ash of War: Sacred Ring of Light  ♦  Ash of War: Seppuku  ♦  Ash of War: Shared Order  ♦  Ash of War: Shield Bash  ♦  Ash of War: Shield Crash  ♦  Ash of War: Sky Shot  ♦  Ash of War: Spectral Lance  ♦  Ash of War: Spinning Slash  ♦  Ash of War: Spinning Strikes  ♦  Ash of War: Spinning Weapon  ♦  Ash of War: Square Off  ♦  Ash of War: Stamp (Sweep)  ♦  Ash of War: Stamp (Upward Cut)  ♦  Ash of War: Storm Assault  ♦  Ash of War: Storm Blade  ♦  Ash of War: Storm Stomp  ♦  Ash of War: Storm Wall  ♦  Ash of War: Stormcaller  ♦  Ash of War: Sword Dance  ♦  Ash of War: Thops's Barrier  ♦  Ash of War: Through and Through  ♦  Ash of War: Troll's Roar  ♦  Ash of War: Unsheathe  ♦  Ash of War: Vacuum Slice  ♦  Ash of War: Vow of the Indomitable  ♦  Ash of War: War Cry  ♦  Ash of War: Waves of Darkness  ♦  Ash of War: White Shadow's Lure  ♦  Ash of War: Wild Strikes  ♦  Lost Ashes of War  ♦  Messages



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    • Anonymous

      Was the Aow nerfed? Tested on the soldier of godrick with the spear and shield near gatefront grace. Both a fully upgraded keen guardian swordspear and a keen twin blade did 1080 dmg. the sword spear has higher base dmg and A scaling in dex while twin blade has B scaling in dex. It seems to only scale with weapon upgrade.

      • Anonymous

        Quick question, so I know Thunderbolt and other lightning ashes of war scale with dex. But does the Ash Of War scale with the dex scaling of your weapon? Forexample I would deal more damage if my weapon scaled A with Dex than C or is it already a predetermined amount?

        • Anonymous

          I've put this skill on the bloodstained dagger for fashion purposes and noticed that it does more damage than on a parrying dagger, which I found kind of strange, as the dex scaling is lower. Further testing showed that the damage is not at all related to the base damage or dex scaling of the weapon. Here are the damage figures I got with my weapons at 60 dex:

          Keen Vulgar Militia Shotel +25 255AR (A) - 906
          Keen Parrying Dagger +25 158AR (S) - 906
          Keen Club +25 230AR (A) - 944
          Keen Bloodstained Dagger +25 180AR (B) - 944
          Keen Urumi +25 225AR (S) - 944
          Keen Watchdog's Greatsword +25 321AR (B) - 944

          default Urumi +25 247AR (B) - 775
          default Club +25 252AR (no dex scaling!) - 775

          So it looks like there is some arbitrary value attached to each affinity, and that value just happens to be the highest for Keen. Simillarly, there doesn't seem to be any logic behind why some weapons perform better than others, they just do. Thanks From.

          • Anonymous

            I really like this thing in duels. Yeah it's easy to dodge, but for some reason a lot of people refuse to dodge it at all. You can't strafe it... Plus it's extremely good at punishing casters and slow AoW

            • Anonymous

              It’s broken on a pure dex/str build. But it’s disgusting on a sacred paladin. Ancient dragons lightning forces people to roll and then you infinitely roll catch them with this. Practically a one shot if both connect. That’s the most simple but correct application of this ash but It gets even better. Triple rings, elden stars, magic glint blade, carian phalanx and thunder bolt ash all out at the same time. Nobody can even see what’s happening. If anything staggers at all my victim will blow up. This ash and beast roar used to be the bane of my mage, but now I’m gonna use it the right way and make you all suffer cheesing me.

              • Anonymous

                It's kinda weird, but this gets more damage from keen infusion instead of lightning infusion. I'm at 80 dex and I tested with a keen/lightning jawbone axe +18.

                • Anonymous

                  Ok so this actually scales with dex not faith. Does that mean I should be going quality if I want a lightning infused big weapon? Or would big weapons have such terrible dex scaling that lightning infusions are bad on them? Is this ash compatible with sacred then? That I should use sacred infusion on big weapons while channeling lightning incantations and the lightning thunder bolt ash? I need your guidance

                  • Anonymous

                    A lot of misinformation or old info below. ash scales off dex stat not weapon ar/type. For best results go with lightning infusion

                    • Anonymous

                      Bring back Blessed as a B/B STR/FTH "quality" infusion, and have Thunderbolt scale with those.

                      I don't know what was going through the developers' heads making 3/4 of the content DEX/INT, even some **** that doesn't make sense, like most infusions and ashes scaling with DEX.

                      • Anonymous

                        I’m sorry but this one of the most broken spells in pvp.
                        Not only because of damage, range, and speed but because of targeting and bad visual cues.

                        It’s literally invisible sometimes with lag, and it doesn’t miss without a good connection. So it’s basically invisible lag-bolt. Which makes winning very easy as long as you can cast it with a bad connection.

                        • Anonymous

                          Lmao, not only does this cast faster than the Honed Bolt incant, using this on a max upgraded Keen Dagger does roughly 20% more damage than Honed Bolt using a seal with 300+ incant scaling

                          • Anonymous

                            It hurts my soul they gave the fastest and most damaging spells in the game to pure strength and pure dex builds. This ash (spell? lol) can two shot players who chose to have armor instead of vigor in mid levels all without actually fighting.

                            It gets worse. Lightning ignores armor, the catch of fast spammy weapons is that they do less damage and have a hard time with armor, which will make a fight against slow weapons with armor/poise about even. Knights vs rogues. Except dex builds now ignore armor and channeled high damage to begin with. My great mace will lose trades against dex builds all while still getting cut down for being slower. This ash represents a lot of the core issues with balance in this game. Hopefully strength and endurance both get higher resistance points for lightning, to punish split damage since the armor can’t.

                            • Anonymous

                              The tracking on this spell is way too good. Like predicting where your roll will land good. A lot of people use this as their “bail out” spell in case they start losing or want free hits. Also with lag the bolt is indivisible, so make sure and watch the caster. I’ve been hit multiple times when I was not in range and it was invisible. It’s really useful when someone just roll dodges the whole fight, it’ll catch the roll and catch the others with a continued cast.

                              • Anonymous

                                Why be a mage when you can level dex and mind and shut down all ranged builds. All jokes aside I have removed this from my inventory and regret that this is even in the game let alone dex scaling. Same with beast roar and bestial sling, they have no business being in pvp and certainly not on us dex builds. Downvote the truth.

                                • Anonymous

                                  yeah pretty sure the scaling on this is bugged, on Lightning infusion it doesn't matter what weapon you use, Great Knife will do the exact same damage as a Pest's Glaive or Dismounter, but on Keen infusion the larger weapons not only do more damage than Lightning infused, they also do more damage than the knife, even though it has S scaling on dex and the others are A and B scaling, tested on the grey Albinaurics at Palace Approach Ledge-Road, 10 times with each weapon +0 and at +25

                                  • Anonymous

                                    The Dexterity favouritism in Elden Ring is so blatant. Huge weapons which should be STR only have dex requirements and scaling. Dex improves poise on horseback. Dex improves casting speed. Lightning is now inexplicably Dex scaling. Dex weapons get better magic damage than Faith builds. And of course, let's not forget about the mess that Katanas are.

                                    • Anonymous

                                      Using a +25 Greatsword, infused with KEEN, lightning scorpion charm and with 60 dexterity, 25 faith, 21 strength (2hand it), this spell is doing about 1300+ to end game mobs with minimum mana usage and a somewhat fast cast. In lower level maps it goes about 2k+ damage. It's totally insane. If you use the Flask of Woundrous physic with Lightning Shroud cracked Tear it gets even better.

                                      From my testing, to use this properly, a weapon with a huge base damage and proper scaling in DEX is necessary (using a colossal weapon and putting KEEN on it should do the trick). For example my Greatsword is going for 373+351, from what i understand, the 351 will be what the spell will use for its damage scaling, that, and faith. When i upgrade my faith points, this thing will hit even harder.

                                      • Anonymous

                                        This is the new Meta AOW. This thing hits like a truck, faster than 90% of spells, and it’s tracking is insane and it staggers opponents! Plus you don’t have to be a dedicated caster to use it! Another AOW that makes most other builds pointless. Yay! It would be even more super cool If it was invisible more often and had a one shot red version. Don’t know why anyone wouldn’t have this somewhere in theyre pvp kit for when you start losing.

                                        • Anonymous

                                          I tested it with lance, claymore and zweihander. all have B keen scaling with 20str/80dex but surprisingly dealt the same thunderbolt damage even though they have different base damage.

                                          Tested on the highest base damage/dex scaling ratio weapon, the guardian swordspear, and even tho it has higher base damage and an A dex scaling it surprisingly dealt the same thunderbolt damage as the other 3

                                          Is there a damage cap or something?

                                          Best weapon to use it imo is the claymore since it puts pressure on passive players, something the claymore struggles with

                                          • Anonymous

                                            tested on heavy misericord +20 537dmg and on my heavy greatsword +20 did 587dmg. the damage increases each time I level my weapon up and the base AR definitely has an effect on the Ash of War. Put it on your heaviest hitting weapon with the highest weapon level you can.

                                            • Anonymous

                                              52 str 13 dex +25 greatsword
                                              Heavy AR 808
                                              Keen AR 552
                                              Thunderbolt damage on radahn soldiers
                                              Heavy 601
                                              Keen 661

                                              The attack seems to be weapon base + dex scaling and nothing to do with actual AR

                                              TLDR; Terrible option for ranged attack on heavy weapons

                                              • Anonymous

                                                Put this on a +25 Great Knife or Parrying Dagger with the Keen affinity, level Dex, and bam you're now a better Lightning mage than actual Faith casters.

                                                • Anonymous

                                                  Even on a strength build, it's a low cost, fast projectile that does decent damage. I use this and Beast's Roar on my Greatsword and does wonders in PvP (Estus punish, Roll punish). Definitely would recommend since it's very easy to use

                                                  • Anonymous

                                                    this thing has the same damage as lighting bolt, faster cast time and is less telegraphed. What is the ****ing point of using incantations if weapon arts do the same thing but better.

                                                    • "This means this Skill will do the most damage on a Weapon that has high base damage and good Dexterity Scaling, which most Halberds have."

                                                      ...Most Halberds scale better with Strength. What the heck is this on about?

                                                      • Anonymous

                                                        not the most common ash to be seen in pvp, so most people can't tell what the animation conveys. since you can also chain it, it's at least 2 hits against unaware opponents (900+ damage)

                                                        • Anonymous

                                                          so basically this thing allows non casters to do nearly as much damage as a pure caster does with honed bolt. can be pretty annoying to go against in a 1v2

                                                          • Anonymous

                                                            For my testing, the ash of war damage is the same regardless of the weapon base damage. For example, a colossal weapon deal the same damage with a dagger at level 1.

                                                            • Anonymous

                                                              Ngl, after seeing this all I’m thinking is “imma put this on my Morning Star and make Tonitrus 2: Electric Boogaloo”.

                                                              • Anonymous

                                                                Man on a dex build you're basically a better caster with this than other pure casters, minus the infinite FP stars of ruin spam cheese. Start up on this is faster than most spells and and does good damage with the right talismans. Also maybe this is just me running into people that don't know the timing to dodge this, but it seems like any amount of latency throws off the dodge timing for this.

                                                                • The skill deals Lightning Damage and it scales with your Dexterity and base weapon attack. I suggest using Lance with this. You can put keen infusion on this weapon and it will scale better than Lightning Infusion.
                                                                  Lance+25 with Keen Infusion only has B Dex scaling, however the base damage is quite big. With 80 dex, the Thunderbolt on Lance outdamage Thunderbolt on Keen Nagakiba +25 with A Dex Scaling and even out damage the Keen Urumi +25 with S Dex Scaling.
                                                                  Other infusions that does not have Dex Scaling don't increase Thunderbolt damage.

                                                                  • On a +25 Guardians swords pear, With 50 dex and 50 faith, this weapon art deals more damage e with a keen infusion rather than lightning or sacred infusion.

                                                                    • So according to a comment a few days ago, lighting ashes of war doesn't seems to scales with faith even if you use sacred infusion. It only scales with dexterity and lighting damage. However, would only using physical infusions and then using Electrify Armament to boost the lighting damage of the ashes of war work? If it does then it would allow for faith builds to benefit from lighting ashes of war instead of just dex builds.

                                                                      • Anonymous

                                                                        The comment about not being able to get this after the erdtree is burning is incorrect. I just got this while exploring parts of the capital that I missed while I was on my way to the giant's mountain. I know for a fact that in my game the tree was on fire way before I got this.

                                                                        • Anonymous

                                                                          Can confirm that after you set the erdtree on fire, you can't get this ash of war and will have to get in new game+, so get this ash of war before this.

                                                                          • Anonymous

                                                                            This skills damage (the bolt from the sky) scales with weapons lightning damage/dexterity, regardless of the infusion you chose. It isn't an incantation, so talismans that increase incantation damage don't work. Damage with +20 partizan on an albinauric sitting in Academy Gate Town:

                                                                            [ 15 dex 50 faith, Sacred infusion: 533 ]

                                                                            [ 15 dex 55 faith, Sacred infusion: 533 ]

                                                                            [ 25 dex, 50 faith, Sacred infusion: 572 ]

                                                                            [ 15 dex, 50 faith, Lightning infusion: 571 ]

                                                                            [ 25 dex, 50 faith, Lightning infusion: 624 ]

                                                                            • Anonymous

                                                                              I’m a Strength build that never played as sorcerer in any from soft game and imo it’s nice having something that can do damage from a distance. I’ve been using it since I got it and now in endgame. There’s obv better skills in terms of damage and buildup but in terms of being able to do like 1500 damage with only 75 FP on a enemy from a distance is clutch

                                                                              • Anonymous

                                                                                Why is this ash of war a reskin of the honed bolt incantation but it scales with dex? there is already enough dex scaling ashes of war.

                                                                                • Previously this had "Can be found on the cliffs on the side path right before Stormveil Castle gate, guarded by Bladed Talon Eagles." Can anyone confirm if that is accurate?

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