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Bosses having second phases where they gain ranged projectiles, huge aoes and the ability to fly around the arena seemed like interesting and cool boss design the first time the game did it. Then Niall does it, then Malenia does it, then Mohg does it, then Maliketh does it, and it starts to feel kids trying to one-up each other on the playground. With the amount of late game bosses who do this exact thing I think it's a grace-given miracle that the Fire Giant doesn't have an extra phase where you break his second leg and he grows wings and starts zooming around the mountaintop like a stunt motorcycle.

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All these smart people who say that using cheese weapon with mimic trivialize X boss make me laugh every time

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Man they really lowered the value of the Boss HP bar in this one. Feels like i could encounter a group of squids on a beach and the bigger one will be granted a boss HP bar.

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Let's just make it clear, "most" of these bosses are not reused common enemies. Can you name any bosses who falls into this category besides Duelists and Watchdogs? And even so, they appear as mobs only in late game, and in very small quantitites. Sure, there are also some exceptions like Demi-Human Chiefs, Cemetery Shade (who occurs as an respawnable enemy only once), Miranda, Omenkiller, Crystalians but that's all iirc. You may also bring up Tree Spirits, but there is a difference between a common enemy and the mini boss. People's tendency for exaggerating things is ludicrous. As if everyone is pointing out that "this boss is not unique" only to bring some attention to their persona, honestly. I may sound like elden ring fanboy with this one, but that's just how things really are

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Fried chicken

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I think whenever someone calls balance "overtuned," you can safely discard their opinion until they provide further elaboration. We aren't talking about violins here, that word is so vague in the context of a video game that it basically means nothing by itself. Just a thought I had reading all the incredible opinion pieces below.

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Battlemage Hugues and Cleanrot Knight duo shouldn't be listed as Dragonbarrow bosses. The part of Dragonbarrow where evergaol and the cave are located is separated from the rest of the region by blazing wall and scaled to Caelid's level.

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There are 165 bosses, but Greyoll is not counted as one of them, even though the wiki says so, right?

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Morgott is my favourite boss, you can fight me on that.

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I don't really know if these bosses are unfair or not, but that doesn't excuse the fact that they're simply not fun.

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most of these are just slightly stronger common enemies

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Elden ring overused of fogwall boss is a great flaw. They could just design the dungeon better with those boss by making them normal enemies and make the dungeon more challenge with more enemies variety and good placement without the need of a boss. The lever is already a good indicator that you finish the dungeons. But instead they made it always a mid enemies being boss, it not fun for over leveled player to went on those dungeons bc they know the boss is a push over, instead of setting expectation on the boss elden ring could just set it good more dungeons like trap fill with more enemies.

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I had more fun with bed of chaos and semon of dong and watchdog of old lords than half of these

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I love how everyone complains about these bosses being bad and not having any openings even though their openings are so obvious and also ds3 was literally R1 Spam Simulator and the rolling was just so op

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My top 10:
1. Radahn
2. Placidusax
3. Godrick (Godrick in front of Godfrey, how could I ?! well he doesnt spam aoes that much and I like the pace of the fight much more)
4. Godfrey
5. Limgrave Tree Sentinel
6. Astel
7. Rykard
8. Elemer of the Briar
9. Rennala (the music, the atmosphere made me lose on purpose on my 1st playthrough)
10. Sir Gideon Ofnir The All- ok just kidding. It's Ancestor Spirit.

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Love this game but bosses are the weakest part of it.

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my favourite boss in the game is elden beast because its a fat whale

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In Capital Outskirts there is a Ulcerated Tree Spirit. It is West of that Minor Erdtree Church.
(https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Ulcerated+Tree+Spirit#capital-outskirts)

In Leyndell, Royal Capital is a Erdtree Avatar right on the main avenue, which i cannot find on the list.
(https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Erdtree+Avatar#leyndell-royal-capital)

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So elden ring decided to be like ds2 and sacrifice boss quality for quantity?

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People would be less complain about reused enemies if tree spirit, tree avatar and their putrid counterpart have no boss hp bar and super weak to fire like the push of man in ds3, it should be stun lock them and deal massive amount of dmg toward tree enemies just like how heal to revenant.

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Idk what the hell happened to fromsoft in terms of the hitboxes, ds3 had damn near perfect hitboxes, and even though you can't expect that for ALL the bosses in elden ring just cause of the large quantity, even the main bosses have complete garbage hitboxes, damn near stooping to ds2 level at certain points. The hitboxes on the bigger bosses are so small to the point that shorter weapons literally can't hit them, and their attack hitboxes linger for a solid 0.5 second afterwards, which doesn't sound too bad but in a fast paced game where one hit can send you back to a grace it is a very big issue

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Hi there, "Onyx Lord" and "Alabaster Lord" of Liurnia (Caria Manor) are duplicate references to bosses, since both appear to be located in Royal Grave Evergaol?

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all of these bosses are a pale shade to the brutality of Mist Noble in Sekiro, still have nightmares to this day

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stop playing the game like ds4, causes its not, stance breaking is an important thing and mentioned in the tutorial cave, bosses have openings to do charged and jump attacks, like radagons stomp, jump heavy, theres even stuff like crystal tears that support stance breaking. obviously some things are bad but people love acting like the bosses in other games are perfect

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Honestly, ER bosses are better than ds3 bosses. DS3 bosses just hit rest hit rest hit rest hit rest, but in elden ring they literally go hit hit hit hit fly away combo up down left right input read your heals and be a ****ing ******* for 4 hours straight.

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Why cant we rematch the bosses (scaled to Player level)? Imagine we could fight an actually dangerous godrick.

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Misbegotten Warrior and Perfumer Tricia duo in the Unsightly Catacombs is probably the most cancerous and unfair gank fight in the game for me. Misbegotten is a distinctly aggressive opponent with wide range of attacks, while Tricia constantly spams spark and uplifting aromatics, and considering how small their boss room is you just don't have a chance to fight one of them separately without another striking you from the back. Moreover, you can't summon spirit ashes in this particular fight (unlike in any other catacombs and dungeons) and there is no stake of Marika before the fog wall, so you have to run through whole dungeon after losing to them every time. Godskin Duo fight is actually balanced compared to this one.

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There is no boss version of the Lion Guardian

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DLC theory: The DLC will have Miquella as a major character, but probably not a boss. Miquella wanted to bring Godwyn's soul back through Castle Sol and The Eclipse. You know what enemies are related with Castle Sol though? Mausoleum Knights. And where are Mausoleum Knights often found? Protecting the Wandering Mausoleums, which house the bodies of soulless demigods. What if in the DLC Miquella manages to activate The Eclipse, and not only revives Godwyn but the other soulless demigods who will all be the bosses of the DLC.

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Near the bottom of the required bosses list it states the Draconic Tree Sentinel is required to beat the game but not for the achievement. This is not true. To beat the game you can easily use Fia's transporter to get past him and all of Altus Plateau. In my current run through I don't have a single grace unlocked in Altus and I am just delaying starting a new game plus.

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Elden Ring is an unfair disappoinment.

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I've come to the conclusion that boss difficulty in this game is greatly overrated. Not because of any magic or broken weapons, but rather because only in Elden Ring can you send it with a lower body invul jump attack that leads to a crit, or easily force one with charged R2s. No special abilities needed, just understanding system mechanics and how stance-breaking works.

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wwwewpeee

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Half the bosses are copy pastes of other bosses, they could've just given them a bit different weapon or slightly different looks at least but nope, just the exact fight.

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I don't understand why Myazaky still didn't find a better way to block the players from proceeding than the "orange fog"
The same thing for trivial solutions to navigate the map, like the "neverending Snake Eater's stairs" such as the one in Miquella's Heligtree

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What's up with the people who claim that these bosses are designed to be mowed down with huge dps? Like, it's okay if that's what you want to do, but they're clearly not. Otherwise they wouldn't have such intricate movesets. They're designed to be tackled in multiple ways, just like in the Souls games.

It's kind of annoying that people always have to defend the way they play as the "correct" one, but rather than "pure melee," now it's just the most casual one because lots of people are having a skill issue. Which is fine. Not everyone has to be a god gamer or anything like that. But at least be able to admit it, man.

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Seems this comment section is full of followers of Sir Gideon Ofnir, THE ALL-COPING.

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lol the comentarscetion is the best pvp in elden ring and funny to read

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Incredible that this game has, Margit, one of the best video game bosses of all time while also having some of the worst bosses I've ever experienced.

I'd rather fight 50 variations of Margit then some of the god awful fights this game has.

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where is an actual good boss, like champion gundyr?????????

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They need to add a boss rush/rematch mode. I don't want to have to deal with this game's playerbase whenever I want to fight a boss again without playing through the whole game.

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Caelid doesn't have an erdtree avatar, it's a putrid avatar instead

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The Tibia Mariner in mountain tops is not a boss, it doesn't have a boss health bar. The wiki also mentions it, just noticed that during my all bosses run.

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The Tibia Mariner in mountain tops is not a boss, it doesn't have a boss health bar. Their wiki page also mentions it, just noticed that during my all bosses run.

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the article states that the minimum bosses to enter Leyndell is 3: Radahn; Mohg; and either Draconic Tree Sentinel or Fia's Champions.

While this is true for the Draconic Tree Sentinel route, going through the Deeproot Depths would require more than 3 bosses, as you would need to defeat the Valiant Gargoyle duo in Siofra Aqueduct to gain access to the Deeproot Depths, since the other entrance through the Subterranean Shunning Grounds isn't available until gaining access to Leyndell

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Its good to have an opinion, but at the end of the day, this game is godlike **cking awesome and you should bow in sheer awe, 11/10 !

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There's a typo in the Elden Ring Achievement Bosses section on Placidusax. ;)

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Worst bosses in the game? My top three garbage design choices are: 1. Dual Gargoyles (even the single gargoyles suck) 2. Mohg (terrible, terrible boss fight) 3. Godskin Duo

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I think there are a lot of great bosses in Elden Ring, but they're mostly A-tier fights. In my opinion, there aren't really any S-tier fights like Isshin, Gael or Orphan of Kos. Maybe Malenia, but I feel like Waterfowl Dance dodge timing might be a bit too stringent.

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"...the minimum number of Bosses required to reach Leyndell is 3 (Radahn, Mohg, and the Draconic Tree Sentinel)"
Isnt Mohg located beyond Leyndell?

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They should buff Milenia, make her immune to everything, make her attack atleast 3 times faster and give her OP, fast ranged attacks

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where fortnite boss?

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am I the only one who thought godrick the grafted was harder than every other boss but malenia? I probally am

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I honestly found the god skin one of the easier and more fun bosses in the game, I liked the challenge of them since most eldin ring bosses are so easy. wish margit and other early game bosses were a lot harder.

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In the section with all the bosses, there is a spelling error as Dragonlord Placidusax is spelt incorrectly. (Dragonlord Plasiduax)

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Kinda wild to think only 8 of these bosses are mandatory. 7 if you instakill-cheese the draconic tree sentinel

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no

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Proudly use spirit ashes for all duo/gang boss fights honestly. Most of those fights suck anyway and is just an obstacle to get to the actually fun fights. Most mandatory bosses are 1v1 anyway except Godskin duo and they can go **** themselves anyway

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My favourite boss attack is the one that turns my FPS into a single digit number

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Are these descriptions from an official source? A handful of them make claims not confirmed by in-game text.

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Envoy Long Horn seemed to destroy every dragons out there. Tested and worked

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Putrid Crystalian under Dragonbarrow links to regular crystalian page. This is unacceptable.

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Dark Souls boss design has been amazing since Artorias of the Abyss, when priorities shifted from making mostly unique, solution-based encounters to making fast-paced, challenging fights. This is in and of itself is a GREAT thing, but in their Souls series (which Elden Ring is a part of), FromSoft has continuously made substantial improvements to their systems to account for this. In Dark Souls 3, this lead to i-frames for the dodge roll and ensuing use of it in game play. In Elden Ring, it shows in the abundance of vastly overpowered spells and summons. Luckily enough, FromSoft has shown that they have created mechanics that accommodate their contemporary design priorities, provided they work with someone like Bandai Namco. Both Bloodborne and Sekiro introduced features that were meant to counter aggressive bosses, rallying/crippling/gun parry and deflecting/posture respectively, which is different than the Souls series. It's just that, for an AWESOME reason, they improved their 2009 basis from Demon's Souls when they go back to making this type of game.

Now feel free to upvote me all you like.

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Clearly a lot of people in the comments have been disillusioned by the weaker bosses in the game, (or frustrated by the late game ones.) There's a lot of really good bosses here, guys. If you're seriously suggesting there's only 1-5 good bosses, (or none,) you're straight up delusional.

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Dark Souls boss design has been terrible since Artorias of the Abyss, when priorities shifted from making mostly unique, solution-based encounters to making fast-paced, challenging fights. This is in and of itself isn't a bad thing, but in their Souls series (which Elden Ring is a part of), FromSoft has failed to make substantial improvements to their systems to account for this. In Dark Souls 3, this lead to a ridiculous amount of i-frames for the dodge roll and ensuing abuse of it in gameplay. In Elden Ring, it shows in the abundance of vastly overpowered spells and summons. Funnily enough, FromSoft has shown that they can create mechanics that accomdate their contemporary design priorities, provided they work with someone other than Bandai Namco. Both Bloodborne and Sekiro introduced features that were meant to counter aggressive bosses, rallying/crippling/gun parry and deflecting/posture respectively. It's just that, for some mysterious reason, they never improve their 2009 basis from Demon's Souls when they go back to making this type of game.

Now feel free to downvote me all you like.

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Isn't Onyx Lord under Liurnia of the Lakes just a duplicate of the Alabaster Lord that's already there on the list? They're referring to the same boss.

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Greyoll is not a boss, it should be removed from this list.

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yo

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If there any way to cheese the bosses?
Or its just a matter of reflexes the whole game?

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Elden beast needs to grow a set and fight a "lowly tarnished" instead of running away

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And people say dark souls 2 has bad bosses, yeah right, Elden Ring knocks it out of the park in terms of having awful boss fights

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Bloodborne better

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few thing that can and will one shot you in post capital even with 60 Vigor and 35% damage reduction :

Borealis's Glacial Roar
Godskin Noble's Godskin Wheel
Godskin Apostle's Black Flame Whirlwind
Placidusax' Stationary Thundercloud Form
Astal's Illusionary Teleport Grab
Theodorix, "that bonk attack"
Malenia's Phantom Spirits

Dark Souls I,II&III endgame is walk in a park compared to ER

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Why isn't Patches in the Legends Category?

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Yes, all these broken thrash boss fights are better than Ds3 great line up of bosses that none of don't just run away from you 1/2 the time. ( to the person is under me)

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main bosses are better than ds3 bosses

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Some of these I have not exterminated yet like the Blood priest

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After playing the other games, i can safely say the bosses in this game are a huge mixed bag, some are genuinely fun, well balanced and a joy to fight like Godfrey/Hoarah Loux and Dragonlord Placidusax, others are some of the most awfully designed rage inducing horseshit in any soulsborne game, those goddamn Valiant Gargoyle bastards, the Foreskin Duo and that absolute travesty of a final boss, The Elden Beast. This game did alot of things very well, I personally don't think it's boss design was one of them, or atleast it is very inconsistent in quality, ranging from being so easy that it's boring, or tedious infuriating garbage, to genuinely really cool and enjoyable.

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So is this what Godrick refers to as "Our home bathed in rays of gold" because in the description of the mimics veil it says he was exiled from Leyndell

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be glad the bosses are decent- unlike bed of chaos

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I enjoyed bosses in ds1 and ds3. Some were lame in ds2 but overall they weren't terrible.
In ER they're either a chore or annoying. There aren't any that are fun. Like, in DS3, there are so many fun bosses that I like trying different ways to beat. Not true in ER.

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Wish more bosses had 2 entire HP bars .. it would've made more fight memorable. Though some are ok with 1, they would've been epic with 2, like Melania was... Beast cleargyman, first elden Lord, and radahn are the main ones I think deserved it. Sad really

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can we talk about how despite the fact we have elden ring, our default pfps are still dark souls 1 knight?

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oh nice

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I don't agree with the sentiment that ER's boss reuse is comparable to the earlier FromSoft games. It's just that the earlier Dark Souls games made every enemy placement matter. Like the Six-eyed Channelers weren't reused in the Undead Parish and The Depths cause they were lazy, it was because they were Sceathe's henchmen and created both the Gargoyles and the Gaping Dragon. And yeah there's the dragon lower halves they had to mass copy paste in DS1 cause they ran out of time, but they were a much smaller studio back then and it was still well thought out cause if you look down from where the undead dragon top half is in Valley of the Drakes it goes down to where the lower halves are in Lost Izalith implying there was only going to be 1 down there but they just ran out of time. There's no real excuse for Elden Ring because there's so much unnecessary content and areas in this game much like DS2 they could have just made a smaller game. Like I found the 2 other Red Wolf bosses before the 1 in the Academy cause I didn't find the glintstone key until I had no where else to go, it made no sense why they could use magic but I figured it was just a breed of wolf that could do that. But then you find the one in the Academy which can use magic specifically for a special reason because its master was at the academy and it
studied magic with them, but the lore drops flat because I found 2 other ones that have no reason exist that were identical before I found the on mandatory one. Same with Mohg, I found Mohg in the Sewers and thought it was a cool secret boss, but then there's just a Mohg in the Eternal City that's apparently the real Mohg and other one just literally has no reason to be there or to be called Mohg. It's like they wanted to put a boss in the sewers but couldn't make one so they just threw another Mohg in there, ruins both encounters for me just like with the wolf. I'd rather they didn't put the sewers in at all if they're going to reuse a boss it just makes me hate both the fake and real version of the boss because I fought the filler one thinking it was the real one when only the real one has lore I'm supposed to care about apparently. Like fallingstar beast is the most forgivable one cause they're just like living meteors that fall down but even Astel is kinda stupid, like they're supposed to be these divine beings they shouldn't look literally exactly the same it's like putting ebrietas the daughter of the cosmos in multiple places in bloodborne like it just ruins the whole point I just feel like I'm playing some kind of fangame at that point. I'm ok with them re-using basic mobs and beasts like taurus demon but re-using something like astel or artorius or godrick just breaks the world for me. Like when I saw, "Godefroy" in the evergaol I literally just turned the game off cause I had no interest fighting a lazy reused Godrick. Like it's supposed to be his brother? Bro it literally is a carbon copy of him it has all the grafted arms in the same places with the same weapons and clothes, its just him. I agree re-using things is usually good game design but Elden Ring crosses the line too many times.

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I don’t quite understand people’s dislike of reused bosses in ER. From the perspective of the game by itself, it helps to flesh out certain aspects of the world, such as there being multiple astel and fallingstar beasts because they’re a race of beings. When looking at the game relative to others, it still has more unique bosses than most games have enemies. Take, for example, another popular open world game like Ghost of Tsushima; it’s praised for so much and yet I can only recall there being around 4 or 5 enemies which then have slight texture and armor variations across the map along with every quest being a repetitive laundry list of chores (practically the same can be said for Breath of the Wild in terms of copy pasted enemies and especially dungeons). To me it seems like fromsoft went above and beyond with their diversity of design and quantity of bosses/enemies and yet people are still upset because they can’t be bothered to fight something twice in one game. This is compounded with the fact that the only people I’ve seen complain about this are returning fromsoft fans. New players seem perfectly content with the game’s layout (though I can’t speak for the whole). When looking at the big picture, it seems like returning players are hellbent on getting the same experience out out of every game made by From Software so much so that they’re now mad at getting, somehow, too much of more of the same.

Also on the note of bosses dealing too much damage: I invite you to the joys of exploring the world, gathering resources, and not just rushing the main story because there are so many lighweight, high defense armors and rune sources to be found if you walk three feet to the left.

If you actually ate my whole word salad: thank you (whether you liked it or not)

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Not really good at this game but still brilliant boss designs

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Bosses have been reused since Demon's Souls and Dark Souls 1 (Vanguard Demon, Asylum/Stray Demon) a boss doesn't mean it's necessarily unique. The lore explains this as well, I don't get all the crying over bosses, I have seen quite a bit of diversity in bosses and each presents a challenge to a different build/play style

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There are 150+ bosses in this game and yet less than 5 of them are good bosses.

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Fun fact: Bosses dont input read, if they did they would react to stuff like night sorceries. Godskin apostles are programmed to fireball your fingers for sipping wine instead of sunny D

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Most explicitly female bosses/mini bosses in a souls game yet. Sekiro comes in second.
-Malenia
-Loretta
-Renalla
-Black knife assassins (x5)
-Crucible knight Siluria
-Nox Swordstress
-Perfumer Tricia

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Elden ring bosses are incredibly poorly balanced . Most bosses are underpowered and overpowered at the same time . Playing solo is just pain unless your weapon does ridiculous damage or has status effects . Fighting with a slow weapon without status effects like you are literally playing the game wrong .

Delayed attacks , AOE attacks , long combos all of these are fine but the problem is it does n't stop there . The game input reads and reacts within one frame and fastest know human reaction is 0.15 s , So the game is literally reacting 10 faster than it is even possible for a human . This is not just for healing or spells ,bosses combos change based sometime they follow up their combos with a attack which they never do unless you attack them " after combos are finished " or even cancel out their recovery frames and go into another combo . Duo bosses are just **** , Not one duo boss in this game is well designed . Camera is a issue for every large bosses why can't the camera pan out for these like DS2 . Combine most these with waterfowl dance , heal on hit , inconsistent hyper armour and ignoring poise break you get Malenia , I am convinced this a sekiro boss they did n't complete on time for release and throwed it into elden ring with minimal changes and of course zero testing , There is probably a good boss behind all of this bs .

On the other hand using spirit summons even very weak ones removes most of these complaints but they make the game a cakewalk . On my first playthrough the only boss whose moveset I learned was Godrick every other boss I had no clue what they were doing most of time and I was using imp ashes for most of the game not mimic tear or tiche.

Honestly I am concerned about future of souls games considering success of ER Formsoft will very likely double down on this kind of design . ER inevitable DLC will confirm if this is case

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Out of all of the bosses i'd have to say Godfrey,Placidusax and Maliketh are proly my faves.

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Gravity is the final boss of every souls game.

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Is Mohgwyn's palace part of siofra river? I thought it was a separate area in its own right.

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Honestly, the reused boss no.4 is not even a problem with me. Its the god awful ganks and horribly balanced post lyndell bosses which are a slog. Went from liking bosses to dreading fighting one because of things like having to lvl vgr to 60 to not get one shot(even after having about 35% damage reduction in average)

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The dirty secret of FromSoftware games is that the boss battles, for all their exterior diversity, can pretty much all be summarised with: "find / bait + punish exploitable attack". Elden Ring is no different, from what I've seen so far (which is most of the bosses at this point). ER is better than previous games for having a lot more ways in which you can punish the exploitable attacks, and it opens up more attacks / moves to punishments than before, but it's all still built on the same underlying mechanic.

Also, Dark Souls 2 - the least liked game of all the Soulsborne-type FromSoft games - had a camera that zooms itself out during some boss fights, for exactly the reasons Elden Ring players are complaining so much about how a lot of the "difficulty" in some boss battles is more to do with the camera + environment than the boss itself. Why, oh why, did they not keep the sole feature of DS2 that wasn't massively disliked here?

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idk how to explain this, but when I stopped fighting these bosses like a typical Dark Souls player, I had a lot more fun fighting the bosses. Of course, it doesn't excuse some of the more questionable design choices, but I simply just make do with what is present at the moment.

We have: The abundance of input-based attacks, delayed attacks for days, AoEs that you are encouraged to jump over, regular attacks you can also jump over, as well as everyone's favorite: Duo bosses.

For input-based attacks, I honestly just waited for an opening to drink my flask and if there wasn't one, I just got to a safe spot and then did it. It's definitely obvious though and I kinda wish it was more subtle than just "yeets black fireball at Tarnished as soon as the press of the heal button"

Delayed attacks prey on your fear, and also allows you to get some extra attacks in before they execute the attack. Watch carefully for when they'll strike, or count how many seconds it takes for the attack to come out. As a certain Sword-Saint said: "Hesitation is Defeat"

The game doesn't really tell you this, but jumping also allows you to dodge certain attacks, especially some AoEs like Godrick's shockwaves and Godfrey's thunderous stomps. You can also dodge regular attacks too, as long as they aren't vertical attacks like uppercuts or slams. Thrusts are weird because I think you can jump over thrusts that come under, but not the thrusts that come over.

My rule for Duo Bosses: If the boss has a buddy, then you can have at least 1 buddy too. Unless for some forsaken reason you want to fight them solo, it is okay to use a mechanic intended by the devs to even out the fight. I personally don't really summon nor use spirit ashes to fight them not because I hate them (I actually like the mechanic), but because I've been too used to soloing the bosses in previous games.

For some reason, I also used my hearing a lot to figure out what attack the enemy will do, like correctly timing my dodge for Astel's laser as well as other things, though in some cases it could also be me compensating for the classic Fromsoft camera lol

We've also got just outright bad attacks that should've been playtested more, but it's whatever. Those kinds of attacks also existed in earlier games so we'll unfortunately have to acknowledge they exist. When in doubt, go online.

Basically, Elden Ring combat to me is basically just subtley different from Dark Souls + we get a bit of Sekiro combat as a treat, though I do wish some more Sekiro combat was involved other than just posture-breaking, guard countering, and jumping. I'd argue that Elden Ring is simultaneously the most skill-based and the least skill based Fromsoft game because on one hand, positioning is even more important than it was in earlier games, but on the other, you could just launch moons at Malenia, Blade of Miquella while Tiche runs around inflicting Destined Death on her (which is valid btw, because it's using the tools given by the devs)

At the end of the day, I'm just some guy giving my opinion about Elden Ring boss design, and I probably might be ranting a ton, but changing my mindset really helped me appreciate some bosses for what they are.

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Hopefully they'll make DLC and the bosses in there won't be as much as an chore like the ones in the main game (Surely)

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I need to stop thinking about this game from a dark souls perspective and start thinking in an elden ring perspective

the gank bosses still suck tho

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