Spirit Ashes in Elden Ring are companions, often mimicking the Lands Between's Enemies, summoned by the the Spirit Calling Bell to aid you in Combat. This page covers how they function, the spirit ashes available, summon costs, and a community-driven list of their relative strength.

 

How to use Spirit Ashes

To use Spirit Ashes, players must first obtain the Spirit Calling Bell from Renna at the Church of Elleh [Map Link].

Similar to Items, Spirit Ashes can be equipped to and used from your Quick Slots or Pouch. However, they can only be used while not in Multiplayer Coop and when near a Rebirth Monument.

Can you Summon Two Ashes in Elden Ring?

After summoning in a given area, you are not allowed to summon again in that area until you rest at any Sites of Grace or Fast Travel.

  • Players may reuse the Spirit Ashes to dismiss a summon.
  • Leaving the boundary of a valid summoning area will dismiss any active spirits.
  • Spirits may only be summoned once per encounter, so you cannot re-summon them after they die during a boss fight.
  • Spirits cannot be summoned while the effects of the Furlcalling Finger Remedy are active. Use the remedy again to cancel its effects.
  • Summoning spirits require either FP or HP depending on the summon.

Monument to Summon Spirits

  • Players must be near a Rebirth Monument, stone obelisks found at many Points of Interest and nearly every boss arena, to use Spirit Ashes.
  • A monument icon, depicted below, will appear on the left side of the screen when conditions are met:

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Unlocking Spirit Ashes Upgrades

Roderika is the only NPC capable of upgrading Spirit Ashes. She offers her services after a short side quest:

  1. Talk to Roderika at the Stormhill Shack. [Map Link]
  2. Head to Stormveil Castle and collect Chrysalids' Memento. [Map Link]
  3. Return to Roderika and return the momento.
  4. Travel to the Roundtable Hold, and talk to her and to Blacksmith Hewg several times until you exhaust their dialogue options.
  5. Reload the area by leaving or other means.
  6. Roderika will now be sat across from Blacksmith Hewg and is able to upgrade your Spirit Ashes

Upgrading Spirit Ashes

Spirit Ash Upgrades universally increase the summons' Attack Power and Defenses.

There are two different types of Spirit Ashes, each with their own Upgrade Materials:

Giant Rat Ashes are unique in that enhancing the spirit ashes will increase their numbers.

 

legendary ashen remainsSpirit Ashes in PVP

With the arrival of Patch 1.08, Spirit Ashes can be used for PVP, but ONLY at matches held at the Caelid Colosseum. Both Limgrave Colosseum and Leyndell Colosseum prohibit the use of Spirit Ashes.

 

Elden Ring Spirit Ashes Guide

 

Spirits Gallery
Spirits Comparison Table
Spirit Ashes Ranked

Spirits Ashes Gallery

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 

 

Spirits Comparison Table

Quick Search of All Spirits  

Inventory Order Spirit Name Effect FP / HP
7 Albinauric Ashes Summons two Albinauric spirits 53
30 Ancestral Follower Ashes Summons ancestral follower spirit 63
53 Ancient Dragon Knight Kristoff Ashes Summons spirit of Ancient Dragon Knight Kristoff 108
21 Archer Ashes Summons three archer spirits 57
26 Avionette Soldier Ashes Summon the spirits of two avionette soldiers 67
31 Azula Beastman Ashes Summons two Azula beastman spirits 102
45 Banished Knight Engvall Ashes Summons spirit of Banished Knight Engvall 100
44 Battlemage Hugues Ashes Summons spirit of Battlemage Hugues 122
47 Banished Knight Oleg Ashes Summons spirt of Banished Knight Oleg 100
57 Black Knife Tiche Summons spirit of Black Knife Tiche 132
52 Blackflame Monk Amon Ashes Summons spirit of Blackflame Monk Amon 115
46 Bloodhound Knight Floh Summons spirit of Bloodhound Knight Floh 95
10 Clayman Ashes Summons two clayman spirits 77
56 Cleanrot Knight Finlay Ashes Summons spirit of Cleanrot Knight Finlay 127
33 Crystalian Ashes Summons Crystalian spirit 101
9 Demi-Human Ashes Summons five demi-human spirits 69
50 Depraved Perfumer Carmaan Ashes Summons spirit of Depraved Perfumer Carmaan 124
61 Dolores the Sleeping Arrow Puppet Summons spirit of Solores the Sleeping Arrow 87
63 Dung Eater Puppet Summons spirit of the Dung Eater 118
19 Fanged Imp Ashes Summons two fanged imp spirits. 50
59 Finger Maiden Therolina Puppet Summons spirit of Finger Maiden Therolina 82
29 Fire Monk Ashes Summons Fire Monk spirit 85
14 Giant Rat Ashes Summons three giant rat spirits -
35 Glintstone Sorcerer Ashes Summons glintstone sorcerer spirit 49
37 Godrick Soldier Ashes Summons two Godrick soldier spirits 54
22 Greatshield Soldier Ashes Summons five greatshield soldier spirits 74
41 Haligtree Soldier Ashes Summons four Haligtree soldier spirits 66
60 Jarwight Puppet Summons Jarwight spirit 60
27 Kaiden Sellsword Ashes Summons Kaiden sellsword spirit 88
34 Kindred of Rot Ashes Summons Kindred of Rot spirit 73
16 Land Squirt Ashes Summon three land squirts 240
48 Latenna the Albinauric Summons spirit of Latenna the Albinauric 74
39 Leyndell Soldier Ashes Summons two Leyndell soldier spirits 64
55 Lhutel the Headless Summons spirit of Lhutel the Headless 104
12 Lone Wolf Ashes Summons three lone wolf spirits. 55
28 Mad Pumpkin Head Ashes Summon the spirit of a mad pumpkin head.  110
32 Man-Serpent Ashes Summons man-serpent spirit 62
25 Marionette Soldier Ashes Summons two marionette soldier spirits 67
42 Mausoleum Soldier Ashes Summons five mausoleum soldier spirits 75
58 Mimic Tear Ashes Summons mimic tear spirit 660
18 Miranda Sprout Ashes Summon five miranda sprout spirits. 185
62 Nepheli Loux Puppet Summons spirit of Nepheli Loux 90
64 Nightmaiden & Swordstress Puppets Summons nightmaiden & swordstress spirits 97
2 Noble Sorcerer Ashes Summons noble sorcerer spirit. 11
3 Nomad Ashes Summons nomad spirit 61
51 Omenkiller Rollo Summons the spirit of Omenkiller Rollo. 113
11 Oracle Envoy Ashes Summons four Oracle Envoy spirits 72
23 Page Ashes Summons page spirit 81
49 Perfumer Tricia Summons spirit of Perfumer Tricia 78
4 Putrid Corpse Ashes Summons four putrid corpse spirits 40
40 Radahn Soldier Ashes Summons two Radahn Soldier spirits 71
38 Raya Lucaria Soldier Ashes Summons three Raya Lucaria soldier spirits 59
54 Redmane Knight Ogha Ashes Summons spirit of Redmane Knight Ogha 106
13 Rotten Stray Ashes Summons rotten stray spirit 35
6 Skeletal Bandit Ashes Summons skeletal bandit spirit 22
5 Skeletal Militiaman Ashes Summons two skeletal militiaman spirits 44
20 Soldjars of Fortune Ashes Summons three little living jar spirits 135
17 Spirit Jellyfish Ashes Summons spirit jellyfish. 31
43 Stormhawk Deenh Summons spirit of Stormhawk Deenh 47
36 Twinsage Sorcerer Ashes Summons Twinsage sorcerer spirit 89
24 Vulgar Militia Ashes Summons three vulgar militia spirits 70
1 Wandering Noble Ashes Summons five zombies that engage enemies in melee combat 28
15 Warhawk Ashes Summons warhawk spirit 52
8 Winged Misbegotten Ashes Summons winged misbegotten spirit 37

Ranking of all Spirit Ashes.

This is a community-editable rank of Spirit Ashes, the objective is to help the community identify the best performing and worst performing Ashes based on their FP consumption and overall viability.

  • The initial rank on the page is calculated based on how much damage a fully upgraded Spirit does alone against a Draconic Tree Sentinel.
  • There are 6 Tiers and it goes as follows: D (<20), C (>= 20 <40), B (>= 40 <60), A (>=60 <80), +S (>=80), -S (Does something special)
  • If 2 Spirits have roughly the same amount of Damage, Summoning cost will be compared. Currently (February 2022) there are 64 Spirit Ashes.
  • Depending on Playstyle of the Player and Enemy values can change.
  • Spirit Ashes are situational. It is best to try out different ashes that you have and see which works when.
Tier Name Damage in % Quantity Notes FP Cost
S+ Mimic Tear 79 1 Mimics the summoner's loadout (inc. spells + consumables), unlimited FP, Elite.  660 HP
S+ Dung Eater Puppet 71 1 Bleed Melee, AoE Enemy Defense and Status Resistance Debuff, Shoot Wraiths at Range and Tanky, Elite 118
S+ Black Knife Tiche 71 1 Highly mobile and survivable, Range applies DOT; Melee, Elite 132
S Lhutel the Headless 95 1 Shield, Teleports, Range (Spectral Lance) and Deathblight Melee, Elite. Tanky with great damage.  104
S Latenna the Albinauric 12 1 Magic Range, Elite. Extremely high DPS but immobile. 74
S- Finger Maiden Therolina Puppet 2 1 AoE Heal, Range, Elite. Low damage. Sustain type summon.  82
S- Stormhawk Deenh 40 1 Buff Summoner at start temporarily, Flying, Elite. Highly mobile and great distraction. 47
S Greatshield Soldier 74 5 Shield. 5 extremely tanky summons, can stack Frostbite with Ghostflame attacks.  74
A+ Banished Knight Oleg 52 1 Elite. Good mobility, ranged attacks, tanky.  100
A+ Dolores the Sleeping Arrow Puppet 17 1 Inflicts Sleep, Range, Elite. Fantastic crowd control. 87
A Nightmaiden & Swordstress Puppets 79 2 Elite, Decent AoE. Good mobility, great crowd control. 97
A Azula Beastman 71 2 Melee. Lightning. Extremely high damage, not much survivability. Glass cannon types.  102
A Nepheli Loux Puppet 67 1 Lightning Melee, Elite. High poise damage. 90
A Ancient Dragon Knight Kristoff 64 1 Lightning Range and Lightning Melee, Elite 108
B- Oracle Envoy 62 4 Range and Melee. Holy damage. 4 summons. 72
A Blackflame Monk Amon 48 1 Fire Melee, Elite. Great crowd control with Scouring Black Flame and high overall damage output. 115
A- Mausoleum Soldier 55 5 Shield. Extreme survivability, teleportation, summons 5 soldiers. Not very aggressive. 75
A- Banished Knight Engvall 50 1 Elite. Fairly aggressive, tanky, melee range AoE crowd control, and can interrupt/pin small single target. 100
A- Perfumer Tricia 1 1 Shield and Buff for Summoner, Fire Range and Melee, Elite. Inconsistent damage but high sustain/buff potential. 78
S Omenkiller Rollo 57 1 Fire AoE and Melee, Proc Bleed, Elite. High damage, some CC, survivable. 113
A Bloodhound Knight Floh 19 1 Elite. Highly mobile, instantly aggressive, high DPS.  95
B Radahn Soldier 71 2 Fire Melee. Great damage. Immediately aggressive. 71
B Fanged Imp 64 2 Magic Range and Melee, Melee attacks inflict Bleed. 50
C Lone Wolf 55 3 Unarmed Melee. Highly mobile, great distractions. 55
B Avionette Soldier 47 2 Melee, Fire AoE with pots. Malfunction when damaged. 67
B+ Demi-Human 45 5 5 summons. Versatile, great distractions.  69
B Albinauric 40 2 Frost and Melee.  53
A Redmane Knight Ogha 33 1 Shield, Elite. Uses Greatbow attacks from afar which cause knockdown. Immediately aggressive when summoned. 106
B Warhawk 29 1 Flying, Melee. Highly survivable, Fire AoE ability. Good damage.  52
B Kaiden Sellsword 24 1 High DPS output, rather tanky. Self-buffs, similar to the enemy variant.  88
B Cleanrot Knight Finlay 19 1 Holy Range and Melee, proc Rot, Elite. Somewhat mobile with high DPS. 127
C+ Rotten Stray 36 1 Unarmed Melee, inflicts Scarlet Rot 35
B Crystalian 36 1 Range and Melee. Extremely high poise, similar to the enemy variant.  101
B- Man-Serpent 31 1 Fire AoE and melee. Good range, great damage with Sea of Magma ability.  85
B- Nomad 7 1 Fire AoE. Uses Frenzied Flame attacks that inflict Madness on other Tarnished.  61
B- Depraved Perfumer Carmaan 5 1 Fire Range and Melee, Elite 124
B Mad Pumpkin Head 43 1 Melee, Great survivability. 110
C+ Giant Rat 29 3 3-5 Summons. Unarmed Melee. Costs no HP or FP, well rounded. Number of Rats increases as upgraded. 0
C+ Haligtree Soldier 26 4 Poison? Range and Melee. Explode when close to death for big AoE damage. 66
C+ Jarwight Puppet 7 1 Range, Elite. Uses various jars to attack and inflict status.  60
C Godrick Soldier 60 2 Shield, Range and Melee. Two summons, one crossbowman one with hammer. High stance damage.  54
C Raya Lucaria Soldier 55 3 Range and Melee. 59 and 1 HP
C Leyndell Soldier 55 2 Shield + Spear. Good survivability, decent damage. 64
C Vulgar Militia 38 3 Bleed Melee 70
C Kindred of Rot 38 1 Range and Melee 73
C Twinsage Sorcerer 34 1 Magic Range 89
C Marionette Soldier 33 2 Range 67
C Skeletal Militiaman 31 2 Self-Revive 44
C Fire Monk 31 1 Fire Range and Melee 85
C Archer 24 3 Frost Range 57
C Ancestral Follower 24 1 Range and Melee 63
C Battlemage Hugues 21 1 Magic Range and Magic Melee, Elite 122
C- Winged Misbegotten 5 1 Range, Flying 37
D Wandering Noble 33 5 5 Summons, Melee, Slow.  28
D Land Squirt 29 3 Poison, Stationary 240 HP
D Glintstone Sorcerer 17 1 Magic Range 49
D Clayman 17 2 Magic Range 77
D Page 14 1 Fire Range 81
D Spirit Jellyfish 7 1 Poison Range, Flying 31
D Noble Sorcerer 5 1 Range, Slow 11
D Soldjars of Fortune 5 3 3 Summons, Melee, Instantly die upon receiving any Fire Damage. 135 HP
D Skeletal Bandit 2 1 Self-Revive 22
D Miranda Sprout 0 5 Poison, Stationary 185 HP
D- Putrid Corpse 0 4 Grappler, Slow 40



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    • Anonymous

      The bit about the Caelid Colosseum being the only colosseum to allow spirit ashes is misleading. Unlocking the one in Caelid unlocks the use of spirit ashes in all other colosseums.

      • Anonymous

        So many times, I enter the fog, summon my spirit ash, and then have to solo the boss because the ash insists on fighting whatever scrub enemy is on the other side of the fog. Just dumb.

        • Anonymous

          i love spending half an hour in grey skeleton dungeon 9 so i can fight watchdog 5 that drops 3,100 runes and the worst spirit ash you've ever seen

          • Anonymous

            In all honesty, I think this game would be 10x better if these things just never existed in the first place. I get this was supposed to help newer players to get into the game, but early game is easy enough to where it probably wouldn't be an issue anyway. They would have also had an easier time designing bosses when they don't have to worry about ashes. As compensation, the damage from endgame bosses could be reduced by, like, 20%. I know this wouldn't automatically solve every issue with this game, but I feel like that an Elden Ring without spirits would have been a better game.

            • Anonymous

              Enemies that should have been Spirit Ashes:
              Crucible Knights
              Omens
              Red Wolves
              Fire Prelates
              Zamor Knights
              Leonine Misbegotten
              Demi-Human Queen
              Duelists and Rotten Duelists
              Alabaster and Onyx Lords
              Blaidd?
              Alexander?

              • I don't have my game open, there needs to be a table to tell me what's a "special" and a "Regular" ash so I can prepare for upgrades when I'm away from my game.

                • Anonymous

                  I feel like we've looped back around to where people get upset at you if you don't use Spirit Ashes because they think you consider yourself superior to them

                  • Anonymous

                    Land squirts should definitely NOT be ranked as low as D. They are actually really strong in many situations against melee-only enemies. Their poison clouds don't just stack up poison, but also deal damage really fast, and they're pretty darn tanky. Just take cover behind them and keep them buffed and alive with healing incantations and they quickly melt anything that comes near. Ainrun used them to great effect in his "trash summons only run" to get past some of the trickiest roadblocks, including draconic tree sentinel.

                    • Anonymous

                      Would be a cool QOL Update for the page to list everything with 5 in a row instead of 4, so that it compares to the game's listing of items.
                      You'd see if you are missing something on first glance.

                      • Anonymous

                        Kinda sucks that there are so many "Renowned" ashes, but only 6 count as "Legendary" for the achievement. Makes you wonder what even the point of a lot of them is, if there isn't even a reason to collect them for collection's sake. Every time I kill an optional dungeon boss and get another renowned (but not Legendary) ashes, I say "well that's cute, but I'm not going to use it instead of the +10 Engvall I've already got, so..."

                        • Anonymous

                          I wish there were basilisk ashes. Unleashing minions to douse enemies with death gas would be satisfying.

                          • Anonymous

                            Playing a necromancer and having a couple of skeletons I can summon that get back up if they don't get hit again when they Regen really completes the vibe.

                            • Anonymous

                              If I use healing incantations, warming stones, or other sorts of healing items, can I give more health to my summons? I’d love to do a play through where I become Elden Lord by being the best healer in the Lands Between.

                              • Anonymous

                                Either the damage threshold has changed or the ranking have been changed, but either way the description of what rank means what above the list doesn't match what's in the list at all now.
                                Either additional columns should be added for both subjective ranks (current) and the ranks based on the test fight, or you should just delete the explanation of the ranks.

                                • Anonymous

                                  I think summoning in this game would be more interesting if Spirit Summons were allowed in all areas/dungeons, except in the boss rooms.

                                  I don't understand the reasoning behind not being able to summon everywhere but only in some restricted areas?

                                  If the argument is that it would make the game too easy, I would argue it's the fact that you can summon them in boss rooms that makes the game too easy with summons, not open world areas or dungeons. In the open world, it just makes the game more fun, because you're fighting many ennemies at once anyways.

                                  • Anonymous

                                    Heyyyy when you try to sort the list by tier, it puts A at the top and S at the bottom. This is probably a bug?

                                    • Anonymous

                                      If someone from From SoftWare ever see that comment... HOW the HELL ther is no revenant or fingers spirit summons commonnn you guys

                                      • Anonymous

                                        "We've got you surrounded, do coop and use the bell Ranni gave you"

                                        "I HATE SPIRIT SUMMONS I HATE SPIRIT SUMMONS"

                                        • Anonymous

                                          Where’s the blaidd summon? Is there one? I just killed dairwil and say something about a summon for blaidd.

                                          • Anonymous

                                            So let me get this straight, Luthel does the most damage by a considerable margin and has good mobility with a teleport and has attacks to work at any range and is one of, if not the best for drawing attention and you have her at the lower end of S tier and have other summons that in your own descriptions acknowledge to be worse than luthel placed higher than her. What happened on this page?

                                            • Anonymous

                                              I just beat the game with my crucible knight build and then grabbed all ten great glovewort and all the glovewort ball bearings. Now I'm going through NG+ trying out a bunch of different spirit ashes.

                                              I never really liked NG+ cause it's just the same as the first time round but now I have all the items I want and all the bosses are incredibly easy. But now that I'm digging in a bit more into the spirit ashes - especially really good spirit ashes you only get late in the game like the Beastmen - I'm still getting to see a lot of items I want to find and use, so it's keeping my attention a lot better.

                                              All in all, they're an interesting thing to add to your build and I'm certainly enjoying playing around with them.

                                              • Anonymous

                                                An excellent way of reusing assets. The game has enough padding, might as well add some flavor to it. Word of warning, many spirit ashes are massively overhyped by the community. If anyone is reading this, try different ashes and see what works best for you, don't go wasting upgrade materials because some chump just happened to find the perfect summon for HIS build.

                                                • Anonymous

                                                  Love how their AI is totally random, meaning they can start attacking something 2km away from you making them totally useless.

                                                  • Anonymous

                                                    I wish one of those ashes could make us able to change their costume,spells,weapons and even name. With some trade off to avoid it beign broken but i think it would be nice.

                                                    • Anonymous

                                                      Putrid corpse is decent C+ it attracts enemy aggro which is quite good for early game spellcasters and tanks like a champ at higher levels.

                                                      • Anonymous

                                                        I'd like to see in the future more spirit ashes, a blood soaked albinauric, sprinhares (for emotional support at least I guess), the venom spitting snake (or the Cristal one), a flock of vampires, a single old woman vampire (that sings when she's not agro), all these wouldn't break the game and would be good companions.

                                                        • Anonymous

                                                          Can someone please edit the rank table to be in order of rank again, please? I have no clue how to edit and don't want to mess anything up. Thanks.

                                                          • Anonymous

                                                            Does the level of your spirit ash affect the matchmaking in Caelid colosseum? Or is it still just based on your rune level and weapon level and your spirit ash summon level doesn't matter?

                                                            • I used Deenh for one of my runs. Midgame it's still viable. Then it just becomes a one-time buff and dies quite soon...forgive me, then again, my major comparison point for summons is fighting Malenia. If a summon is good against Malenia then it's one of the best.

                                                              • Anonymous

                                                                Some summons are great.
                                                                Some summons are good.
                                                                Some summons are decent.
                                                                Some summons might seem awful at first glance of use.

                                                                But they all have a job for a certain situation and suited build to assist, there's one for everybody, don't sleep on any of these whatsoever people, just use them properly and join the fray alongside instead of leaving them to it.

                                                                • Anonymous

                                                                  Better if you had a 'recommended summons against a boss' page instead of the relatively useless tier list. Dung man may well be S+ but there are still better options than him for some fights.

                                                                  • Anonymous

                                                                    Make an easy strategy section for summons in your strategies for boss fights... I'm not insulting anyone who uses them. Just saying if the strategy for say a caster is to use a summons to distract then it's a useless strategy for a caster not trying to get carried.

                                                                    • Anonymous

                                                                      you're telling me i can have a black knife, a bloodhound, and a pumpkin head spirit, but not a crucible knight?

                                                                      • Anonymous

                                                                        Did my first run of the game with ash summons on just about every boss and am now near the end of my first run not using any ash summons and gotta say it really makes the boss fights a different challenge but pushed me to get allot better at dodging and actually learning the movesets of bosses more carefully, for anyone looking level up their own playing skill level i strongly recommend doing a no ash summons run

                                                                        • Anonymous

                                                                          Would have been interesting to me if ash summons had various level of stat requirements to use (ie certain int faith arc ect.) so that specific summons would be part of the strategy of a certain build but just giving something this strong to every character for basically nothing seems like too much imo

                                                                          • Anonymous

                                                                            does anyone know how much the actual stat increase is Ive been searching for it for a while but i cant find anything on it

                                                                            • Anonymous

                                                                              If you talk to Roderika and immediately after that travel outside limgrave and sit at a site of grace to unlock the round table she will be there and you can skip the step of her quest that requires finding the chrysalid. This is useful on a summon heavy/only play through or to set yourself up at the start of a new character

                                                                              • Anonymous

                                                                                I noticed the tuning price tags on spirit ashes are varied. Is the rune cost difference based on quality? Or just From's opinion on the ashes worth?

                                                                                • Anonymous

                                                                                  Ghost glovewort is for anything that has an actual name, like Latenna and Tiche, and puppets. Everything else just uses grave glovewort.

                                                                                  • Anonymous

                                                                                    Why isn't this page sorted by normal spirits and renowned spirits? Gotta say, it's getting pretty tedious having to click on EACH page to make sure they need Grave Glovewort instead of Ghost when it's all sorted in-game...

                                                                                    • Anonymous

                                                                                      64 spirit ashes. Pretty sure that's close to, if not more than, the number of places / situations in which you can summon them. For all the times I've thought to myself "This would be nice if we had just this one extra thing" when looking at all the rest of the equipment / spells / items etc., this actually looks like From put too much attention into something for once.

                                                                                      • Anonymous

                                                                                        So anybody know if upgrading your Spirit Ashes affects matchmaking like PvP and Co-op? Like how upgrading your weapons does.

                                                                                        • Anonymous

                                                                                          Now think about this, most of legendary spirit ashes are women. Why? Didn't they like die in a miserable death? Why does fromsoft hate women? That's some lore to miyazaki's real soul and heart.

                                                                                          • Anonymous

                                                                                            I'm getting towards late game but there are a couple of things relating to spirit ashes I should have worked out much sooner, hopefully new players reading this long arsed comment will find something useful and not make the same mistakes I did and waste runes as well as both types of glovewart upgrading spirit ashes they end up not using based on what they read online, the spirit ash rankings in their respective Elden Ring wiki pages and comments only to work out too late that apart from two, they don't deserve their ranking places or live up to the hype around them. I should have seen through the utter bollocks being spouted by certain spirit ash summon's groupies in comment sections much sooner than I eventually did.

                                                                                            The lone wolves ashes can be safely upgraded and relied on to take you a surprising distance into later game areas. Both so-called elite summons Lhutel the headless and banished knight Oleg are available as early as Limgrave, one drops from the boss in Tombsward catacombs the other from the boss in Fringefolk hero's grave. Neither of them should be upgraded until they have been summoned and thoroughly tested against bosses and enemies to be sure you like what they do and they suit how you play, but even then I wouldn't recommend taking them past +6 depending how many ghost glovewart [7] you have and how much you like them. There are two spirits that do live up to the hype and will give much more back after being upgraded than any of the others.

                                                                                            Apart from not believing all the bollocks I was reading, the most important thing I should have been doing was testing out new spirit ashes as I was finding them in the same area and at the same level. I think that is the best way to get a feel for what new summons are about and if you like them enough to think they are worth upgrading, that isn't what I did. I was putting upgrades into summons I had found much earlier blindly based on what I was reading thinking they would make some of the harder bosses more manageable, they didn't and I never used those ashes again. My best example is the albinauric ashes found behind caria manor, I upgraded them to +5 as soon as I found them after reading comments on their wiki page, after summoning them once I think those were troll comments because they got wiped out faster than any summons I've used and it was by not overly powerful enemies.

                                                                                            The two summons I think definitely live up to the hype around them are Omen killer Rollo and the dung eater puppet they have both been outstanding for me and I'd have no hesitation recommending them to anyone. In fairness though I don't have black knife Tiche and I don't use black flame monk Amon, both have stellar reputaions but so does Oleg and I found him okay at best. The mimic tear is a monster summons if you have an optimised monster build, if not it's just another you in the boss room and there are definitely a handful of bosses where that isn't enough.

                                                                                            • Anonymous

                                                                                              I have a question, I've got Omen killer Rollo at +9 and he's never needed support from me against any boss I've used him for, but the red albinaurics at the blood-filled lake hit hard and attack as a group they can really f**k your s**t up if you aren't paying attention. I thought the lords heal incantation would keep him in the fight longer, I've never used it before but the description for it says something like heals a great deal for the player and nearby allies, but this isn't how many casts it took to heal Rollo with half his health bar left, its how many flasks. I had to cast it over and over, with nearly 200 FP it took five or six flasks worth of casts to fully heal him I was only seeing a very small increase in his health bar each time it was cast. I can't see how this would be even remotely viable unless you dedicated six flasks worth of FP just to keep him alive and assuming whatever boss you were in the middle of fighting let you do it in the first place. The second tier erdtree blessing incantation isn't much better, it took significantly less casts to heal him but it was very slow. I was just standing there waiting for not far off ten minutes or at least it felt that long to heal his HP from half empty. Can anyone confirm this is normal and what I should expect to see if I try to keep my spirit summons alive with support incantations?

                                                                                              • Anonymous

                                                                                                I have no clue what spirit tuning is doing without some stats to compare it to - it's hard to know what to upgrade when all you see is +1, +2 etc. Yeah it's "better" in a source: dude trust me way, but it sucks that there's no in-game data or external guide on what changes when you start sinking resources into these

                                                                                                • Anonymous

                                                                                                  Dung Eater puppet is so good for casters it's not even funny. He seems to almost always immediately draw aggro from a boss unless I'm up against a very mobile enemy like an ulcerated tree spirit since he starts with his "I EAT ****" battle cry, he's tanky enough that you really don't have to worry about him and cast spells at a distance. The few times the boss decides to look at me, he immediately redraws aggro on himself by just giant dad greatsword swinging his way through the boss, if he's too far away to hit the boss and redraw aggro he goes for the wraiths which will divert the boss's attention to him.

                                                                                                  I seriously got him just because I thought it would be funny to have the poo poo man as a summon only to be blown away at how useful he is. Even Malenia got ganked by him greatsword spamming and me casting spells. Legit had her stuck in a corner and in a near constant stun lock for phase 1.

                                                                                                  • Anonymous

                                                                                                    Has anyone noticed a reduction in the damage their go-to spirit summons are doing after the latest update? I'm especially interested in Lhutel and Oleg. There's nothing about spirit ashes getting nerfed on the wiki page for the patch notes, and I can't say for sure myself because I didn't get Oleg from the fringefolk grave dungeon until after 1.05. But if you read the comments on Oleg's wiki page you get the impression that he is a monster summons with some claiming he carried them through this or that boss fight, but when I summoned him at blood-filled lake near Mohgwyn's palace he was upgraded to +6 and his damage for a single hit was between 70 to 90 first time I summoned him and never went over 110 the second time.

                                                                                                    I only started to think they had been nerfed to some extent when I summoned Lhutel also +6 in the same place. She did more damage than Oleg but not by very much and it was exactly the same when I summoned one after the other at impassable greatbridge and saw the same sort of damage from them there as well, neither hit for more than 130 and it doesn't seem right. I was using Lhutel to speed up the rune farm much earlier upgraded to +2 and +3 she wasn't having any trouble killing the Radahn soldiers or the mounted knight. Can anyone confirm this or is it my imagination and damage in the low hundreds is what those two elite summons have always done? I'm asking because I can do much more damage myself with incantations for the FP cost of summoning those two.

                                                                                                    • Anonymous

                                                                                                      Greatshield Soldiers are my instant squad. They think I'm super funny, and they all like my music recommendations. They ask me for dating advice and never talk behind my back. Greatshield Soldiers are always there to hype me up, and support me at any contest or competitions I enter. I credit Greatshield Soldiers, at least in part, for making me the person I am.

                                                                                                      • Anonymous

                                                                                                        Taking the idea from finger maiden Therolina, I tested this out: You can heal your summons, at least with Lord's Heal. I tried it on banished knight Engvall, the greatshielder ashes, and the demi humans. Not that it would be a huge fight priority most of the time, but it's good to know.

                                                                                                        • Anonymous

                                                                                                          Which ashes deal primarily lightning damage? I know Kristoff and the Farum Azula beasts do some. Are there any others?

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