Ash of War: Carian Retaliation | Elden Ring Wiki

ANTI MAGE!!!!!!!

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its weird how it only costs fp on a successful spell parry, despite having some of the best frames in the game for a parry

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Make no mistake folks. This is an A/S tier AOW. I grab it on every run. The parry frames on this are the same regardless of the shield you use. Sure buckler parry will win by a small margin. But tbh I put this ON my buckler once I hit Caria manor. The added utility is worth the minor loss in times for melee attacks. After a year I’m finally getting a lot better parrying and it feels really good. I recommend everyone give this a go. Ps the Albinaurics at place ledge approach are great parry practice dummies ;).

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This thing is so goofy (in a good way). They just stand there dumbfounded after their Dark Moon magically disappears out of thin air. The glintblade phalanx effect is just icing on the cake, a lot of people get hit buy it due to it's semi-invisibility.

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Wish you could put this on a parrying dagger.

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This **** it’s broken after the lasted patch I’m taking full damage everytime I parry a spell I still get the swords but I take full damage

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This Ash of War can absolutely TRIVIALIZE the Draconic Tree Sentinel. If you don't really feel like fully fighting him, and don't want to use the Poison Mist cheese (which you might have to spend a Larval Tear to use), just slap this on a shield and go to town. Bait out the fireballs and parry, it's essentially risk free damage.
Keep your distance and alot several flasks for FP replenishment. You can completely avoid engaging up close to be as safe as possible, but if you want the fight to be faster you can learn how to parry the overhead-jump attack he does. It's the easiest attack to parry in my opinion. As soon as the claw passes over his head, hit the parry, then punish. If you can stagger him, punish. If not, then run.

10/10 Ash of War for me.

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My persona lfavorite ash of war. Screw you and your fireballs draconic tree sentinel.

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I noticed about this WA and I'm not sure if its noted. I use it alomf with a Chilling Mist miserocorde. While my weapon is buffed with ice, the blades will also cause frostbite. Not sure if it works with bleed poison rot etc.

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If I use the cold affinity, how do I get it to apply to an enemy? Parrying does not seem to add that status effect.

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Is the damage on this boosted by Shard of Alexander or the spellblade set? It says fixed at 150 so not very clear

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I feel like this should still scale in PvE, but not in PvP

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DO NOT use this against glintblades of any kind even if you parry all projectiles you can still take damage

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If you like parrying but miss your AOW, I recommend War Cry on your main hand. Works 1 handed and turns your R2's into improved Stamps. Great on a dex Swordspear with Roar Medallion and Spear Talisman. Counterhits for 1300+ in PVP uncharged with <800 AR unbuffed. 2H to reapply the buff every 40s is very manageable.

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The damage being limited to static 150 per projectile was WAY too big of a nerf. The damage should still get scaled just like before but just lower that scaling.

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Best frames AND only costs fp when spell parrying (and even then its not much). Why even use anything else?

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Parries Draconic Tree Sentinel's Fireballs 10/10

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Are the Frames the same on a medium shield?

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Unless I’m missing something, this AoW cannot be duplicated using Lost Ashes of War.

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Unless I’m missing something, this AoW cannot be duplicated using Lost Ashes of War.

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Well ****. I did the whole manor as early as possible because I wanted this on my misericorde without realizing it's only for shields. F.

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Invading players will enjoy using this skill. Mages, watch yourselves.

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Say I’m running an Arcane build, and would like to to put this on a small shield, giving it a Bleed Affinity to have it scale with Arcane. Would the damage of the Glintblades spawned by the weapon art scale off of my chosen Bleed Affinity? Or do they purely scale off of weapon upgrade level? Or even Intelligence, given they deal Magic damage?

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At higher level invasions it seems to be more worth it to invest in faith for the Erdtree Greatshield. Only downside is it doesn't parry.

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i wish this had different scaling, it oneshots at low level where mages do no damage, but tickles at high level where mages do 2/3 of your health with a pebble

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Anti-Moovneil parry.

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invaluable on low level invasions. It one-shots most magic spammers.

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Do the blades appear after parring a physical attack or just spells

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Before the patch I've almost oneshotted maliketh with this thing

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Magic Scorpion Charm will increase the damage of the glintblades. Seems to be just about the only thing that will.

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The nerf was sorely needed but I can’t help but think they over did. 700-900 damage would feel about right and it would be cool if shields that had innate magic damage like the Carian Knight Shield boosted it as well, just because it feels like it should

I’m personally glad they didn’t get rid of the self activation, it’s fun to use and it doesn’t feel cheap now that they nerfed it. Given the delayed 2-step activation, the 7 fp of the Wraith Calling Bell plus the 8 fp of the skill, I don’t feel it would be OP even at the damage range I just suggested. There’s both faster and more damaging spells and ashes you can use for 15 fp.

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so this parry is even better than the buckler one, I'm using it with the two headed bird shield and I found it easier to parry, thought I was getting better but actually it's the ash that's the best parry of all the ones out there

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damage does not go up with shield upgrade levels.

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This is better than Golden Parry (minus range) for physical because it doesnt cost FP.

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Please update this page.
Affinity has no effect on damage output from this skill, and you can no longer parry your own spells.

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Someone answer please!
Parrying normal attacks also takes the same frames as parrying a spell? Meaning the blue emitted light also parries normal attacks or only spells? Thanks.

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I once tried to counter-retaliate an opponent who retaliated my spell.

I was sorely disappointed when I found out I couldn’t do that.

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Does anyone know if this gets the same number of parry frames on a medium shield?
or any of the parry skills for that matter

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Is the damage not influenced by anything? I was testing is on mages in the academy that shoot glintblades, nothing I swapped made a difference. Changing my +18 great turtle shield from standard to magic and equipping +5 int talisman did nothing, it was like 112 per sword and 336 total. Switching to +0 Carian Knight shield and taking off int talisman still did 336 total, and switching it to magic and putting on int talisman still did not change the damage

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What happens if you have no FP- Can you still parry and is the animation the same?

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Is it possible to parry carian retaliation projectiles of someone else?

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I knew they patched it, but didn't know they nerfed it. Not gonna waste my time doing 300 damage to a mage.. ill stick to erdtree greatshield

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Wait... It got patched? Still feels the same when I use it lmao

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I'm glad it got patched, I can finally use it to legitimately parry enemy spells / Moonveil users spamming too much without feeling bad because of the glitch, plus the parry frames are still very good so it's a nice bonus.

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I'm glad it got patched, I can finally use it to legitimately parry enemy spells / Moonveil users spamming too much without feeling bad because of the glitch, plus the parry frames are still very good so it's a nice bonus.

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Went from Carian Retaliation to Carian can you not?

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This Ash Of War Trivialized the Draconic Tree Sentinel fight for me, just stayed back and reflected fireballs! I'm using it in every play-through to easily get passed It!

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Ash of War: Hoe’s Mad

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So, now the damage scales with the weapon in the right hand...? Or does it scale with nothing at all, and just deals a specific amount of flat damage?

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RIP to the best ash ever. Had a blast with this. Sad I didn't discover it until my 4th run through the game. And sad it's gone.

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things been nerfed but still very usable and sadly better than erdtree greatshield with less stat requirements

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Just wanna note: even after the patch, this is still a direct upgrade to your normal parry. It has scary good parry frames, counters spells, and only uses FP if it has too. Unless you have a specific reason to go for a different parry skill, I'd recommend slotting this in as your default.

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Ahahahahahahha stupid glitchers where's that power now not so tough without your one shot glitch now are ya

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Nerfed in 1.04.
It was funny to erase stupid RoB spam gankers around with that but honestly was too far OP. Sadly I have to challenge Godskin Duo without it. It's still reliable too, against mob casters for instance!

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Finally patched!! Right...?

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Should be fixed in 1.04

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Perfect for ganks
Cope
Seethe
Mald

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Bear with me a moment before you get your pitchforks and torches..

Being able to "feed" yourself a retaliation with the bell (or some other items, there's a few) is totally fine IMO since you're exposed for a while and it costs a decent chunk of FP. Kind of a 2-phase spell, if you will.

The ash's glintblades being invisible to other people obviously needs to be fixed, that goes without saying, but otherwise it's the damage that's really over the top. Use it in legit ways either against bosses or people that cast spells and you'll see them melt away in no time.

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Used against Sir Gideon, it lasted like 3-4 spells countered.

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If its in the game then its intended. Its NOT a "glitch" or an "exploit". This game is all about rewarding players who are smart enough to find clever interactions like parrying your own spells. So ironic how everyone who sends me hatemail for parrying my spells always tell me to "get good". Like maybe use your brain and learn how to counter it instead of crying that everything you don't like is a "glitch".

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It's dead everyone! We can enjoy the game a little bit more now! Just rework Bloodhound's Step and everything will be good.

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Self activation exploit is the worst thing ever. Theres like no defense against it. Kills at full HP and is invisible and totally instant. I'm legitimately shocked by the people here defending it as it currently exists. "Adapt"? "Cope"? lol like, how?

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Forget about the self activation and invisible swords glitch. This ash does absolutely broken amounts of damage for nearly 0 investment. Slap it onto any shield, upgrade it (or don't it still does massive damage) and watch how the glintblades will instantly do 3000 damage without any risk to yourself. Whether your proccing them yourself or parrying it from a player or boss, this is without a doubt the strongest ability in the game by a very wide margin. Fromsoft definitely did not test this ash for even a second, the damage is that unbelievable.

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This made the game casual for me.

Slapped that ash on the magic-infused Carian Knight's Shield and now I "shield-only" any boss that casts spells in about 2 or 3 shots. 1 shots almost anyone in PVP, granted they feed you a Retaliation.

Absolutely wrecked the Godskin Duo in record time.

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it says it costs fp, but, it doesn't

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not sure why people keep saying this is glitched or an exploit, it's intended to parry spells and damage nearby enemies, it does exactly that, the only issue I can see is the damage is way too high for PvP, it should probably be nerfed to around 500dmg rather than 2500+

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Hate to be that guy, but this needs to be nerfed. Obviously, the exploit needs to be fixed but I'm talking about it's damage. I literally just baited the Godskin Duo to throw their fireballs at me so I could Retaliate and one-shot them both. One-shots almost everybody in PVP that would be foolish enough to cast a slow-moving spell.

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willing to bet 9/10 people crying about how broken this in PvP are the same scrubs that just spam Rivers of Blood or Moonveil, it's actually pretty funny deleting them with this

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Does this parry the frenzy incantations too? I can never seem to get them parried

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Ok so I'm using this as intended, just parrying spells, but for some reason, maybe 1/5 people I hit with the daggers after the parry actually take damage from them. They always stagger, but rarely is a single point of damage dealt. Quite frustrating, what gives?

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I like this ash of war as a mean to do a no magic run and good in pvp against magic users as some form of protection

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Do I have to upgrade my shield to get better damage?

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Using Golden Vow prevents your carian retaliation blades ftom dealing damage

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I use the glitch on gank squads! In ds3 since it was still mostly just souls fans playing you would encounter a lot of hosts or summons letting you do 1v1 honorably but since this game has outsold them all, there is so many casuals just ganking with rivers of blood so I use it to kill the summons, or at least try to since you can’t control who they target. I try to get them to lock on the summons and then once they die a fair fight can begin! I can even handle rivers in pvp tho I still think it’s cheap and it also needs a nerf

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Me and a friend decided after we both beat the game we would try coop. We made new characters got the ability to level up, and then we got invaded by a guy using this ability. Obviously we got destroyed and we were only starting level. RIP us.

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Bloodhound step + this are the best ashes of war

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Exploits aside, this is easily one of my favorite ashes in the game. Great parry frames, and the spell counter does a disgusting amount of damage. I'm running a strength character, and this ash was enough to defeat the draconic tree sentinel and godskin noble in volcano manor single handedly. A must have for bosses that do a lot of casting. My +13 banished knight's halberd almost feels like an after thought in the face of casters

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It's nice that non-mages have the option to just delete casters who aren't careful with their spells, but the glitch where you proc it with your own consumables or spells needs to go.

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is there a certain shield that goes with this best?? Right now i'm using a brass shield+24. Perhaps I should use the carian knight's shield instead? Not asking for pvp, just asking because i want to get some bosses (foreskin duo, elden yeast) done faster.

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Killed the godskin duo without summoning thanks to this, dealt 2k damage if the three swords hit, idk why it did so much damage, it was affected by Golden vow also

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While it’s still bugged there’s only two good reasons to use this ash of war: rivers of blood and moonveil

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I hot summoned for malenia and the host was using the glitch so I started letting her it me intentionally to heal her. He did not win.

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I hope they fix this this ash of war soon so people can shut the hell up about not being able see it or dodge it or parry it with thops barrier , or just dont use magic mitigation.

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Placidusax would look at this and say: “**** this, im outta here”

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The self-activate glitch is currently the most broken thing in this game. It is cheating and gives you the hollowest, most meaningless win possible. I feel sorry for anyone using the self-proc glitch (not the ash as intended) and thinks they are actually playing Elden Ring. Sad.

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Does it do more damage depending on what spell you deflect? Asking because I want to wrap up my final game faster for my 100%

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y'all talking about "the exploit..." what exploit? playing the game? y'all love bs one shots until it happens to you. toughen up and use crimsonwhorl

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Insanely broken, dont believe me? Put this on a 1lb. Small shield and unequipped all your weapons leaving only the shield, then fight the 4skin duo. I had the hardest time my first time w them, this time it was parrying black fireballs and shooting glint blades doing 3000ish for a 6fp cost, not bad

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I got one shotted in PVP at level 200 and I never saw the swords move. Needs major nerf.

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Filthy glitch user's best toy

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learned about this skill's ability to self-proc with the wraith bell and tried on my 80 INT build today (applied to carian knight's shield at +24 in order to maximize INT scaling, as an experiment in cheesing); immediately defeated malenia, godfrey, and elden beast within a few hours, all on the third or fourth try (it took me like 10x as long to get past maliketh, for example, before i learned about this skill). i'm getting myself hyped to do an NG+ run now, but tbh i'm a little bummed out that all i had to do was run away long enough to get these swords up to defeat the hardest (?) bosses in the game over a few hours without even much sleep. it does comparable or more damage than comet azur, but with essentially zero setup time since you can set up away from danger and then let the swords fly away themselves once you get back into the fray.

i'm new to souls games and i've really only evaluated this in the pve context, but it seems like a mistake to be able to parry your own attacks, especially since the hitboxes from your own attacks don't ever (?) harm yourself or other people on your team like spirit ashes. right now, i can absolutely recommend this skill with the carian knight shield if you're doing an INT build and really want a cheese strategy; you still need to know how to dodge their attacks somewhat, but with black knife tiche attracting attacks i've been able to set up and repeatedly smack bosses with this move and knock them out in a few hits.

outside of being able to self-induce this, it seems like a really useful skill for doing legitimate parries, and i hope that part can stick around.

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I use this ash of war on mages who love to spam there spells redirect their magic right back at them love it

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absolutely destroying people with this in pvp. It's super dope how you can proc the blades with your own spells or a glintstone scrap. does a devastating amount of damage. this plus my magic claymore with glintstone pebble has to be one of the most powerful setups in the game right now.

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Everybody talking about how much damage the swords do... I just use it for the party frames

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Let it know that this has the start time and active parry frames as the buckler and you only use fp if you parry a magic spell. So putting this on a medium shield is a straight upgrade besides the weight from a buckler.

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Does this ash of war do poise damage similar to the Glintblade Phalanx Ash of War?

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I want to use this for the amazing parrying capabilities, but the fact that the glitch still exists completely turns me off from using this. On a separate note, nothing feels better than using finger severer on somebody using the glitch, whether I summon them for duels or as cooperators on bosses. You wanna be a b*tch, I'll treat you like a b*tch.

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I want to use this for the amazing parrying capabilities, but the fact that the glitch still exists completely turns me off from using this. On a separate note, nothing feels better than using finger severer on somebody using the glitch, whether I summon them for duels or as cooperators on bosses. You wanna be a b*tch, I'll treat you like a b*tch.

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It's DS Pursuers all over again, randomly dying to extremely strong invisible projectiles is always a favorite of mine

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On the Ashes of War page, it also says that it can be found NW of the Temple Quarter Grace site on a beetle. Can anyone confirm or deny this and add it to this page?

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