Ash of War: Carian Retaliation | Elden Ring Wiki

I hate that this stupid thing basically invalidates small shields for parrying except in fringe cases where weight is a concern

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Surprisingly enough, if somebody is spamming storm stomp on you, this Ash makes you hyperarmor invincible (literally), both in terms of the stun lock and the damage. Perhaps it's a design bug, but I successfully tested it so many times with the mimic tear boss (patch 1.16). You can then proceed to punish your clueless opponents with your bonk main weapon while they're still in the stomping animation. You can also use the same trick "being invincible" on the Crucible's Knight stomp and their flying angels lunging, although you'll still lose a fraction of your HP - but you won't be thrown off coz of the lunging attack.

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What happens if you try to use this without FP?

Also, can this be used (minus the magic sword bit) without meeting the INT requirement?

I’m trying to figure out if this or something else would be better on my low-FP, INT-dumped build.

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you remember how often that draconic tree sentinel spams fireball? Like 6-8 times in a row? Yeah, this ash makes his spam actually fun to fight with

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Can you parry Carian Retaliation glintblades with Carian Retaliation? What if glintblade pong duel

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The earlier you get it, the better, as that static damage will only get worse the further into the game you go. But I found the damage pretty useful even into the late midgame.

There's still a good reason to use Golden Parry if you get good at spacing so you can safely parry without risk of taking damage if you miss. And even the Buckler can be very useful if you don't fancy an early visit to Altus or Carian Manor. But if all you want is a medium shield that can parry effectively, then 8 times out of 10, I'd use this. If you don't really parry and instead just want a shield in order to block, use Barricade Shield.

Better yet, have one shield with Retaliation and another with Barricade on and switch between them as needed, if you have the excess carry weight. Got me through the DLC, at least.

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This is the monopoly of parries, it used to be competing with golden parry when it came to duration, but with golden parry nerfed, this became the one and only dominant choice for every parry build, there is literally no point in using anything else

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Very usefull to kill the vanishing zombie sorcerers. Parry the first incoming spell. Let them vanish. The glintblades will spot them immediately after they are teleported.

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is there any benefit to using this on a small shield over a medium shield?

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This works Extremely well for the Wintern Lantern enemies in the Abysal Woods DLC area. They are the "madness" enemies you have to parry to damage. This Ash of War gives you more parry frames.

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Was stealth nerfed in the last patch it's parry frames are now worse then the normal parry.

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It can parry mohgs blood spray attacks as well

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Nobody expects the 10th parry!

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didn't work on the lightning called down by draconic tree sentinel (maybe it does if you back up and use it somehow?), fml lol

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Surprised nobody has made a list of exactly which spells can and can't actually be parried by this.

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Miyazaki's answer to all the "Parry this, you filthy casual" memes.

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3/17/2024 notified bandai/fromsoft this aow is currently bugged. where it should be buffed by 3 things, it is only buffed by 2 and nerfed by the remaining 1.

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Why wouldn’t it scale with int? This is beyond me!

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Parries everything. Giants flame take thee, sacred rings of light aow, pretty much anythings thats a projectile attack.

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Also works on blood blade, sacred blade, black blade (Spell), and the black knife skill.

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It's really fun eating fireballs from that damned Draconic Horse and the GS Duo using this.

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Can confirm that the damage from the glintblades is not "fixed" to 150 damage

The damage isn't affected by the shields upgrade level, affinity or any stat scaling as far as I can tell, but it *is* affected by appropriate buffs. I tested the Spellblade's Set, Magic Scorpion Charm, and Shard of Alexander and each of them increased the damage dealt by the shards, and the effects stacked with each other.

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Does Infusing your shield with a status-inflicting Infusion apply status to your Glintblades? If not, that's a shame.

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JUST BECAUSE IT'S BEEN NERFED, DOESN'T MEAN IT ISN'T GOING TO TRASH SPELL/MOONVEIL SPAMMERS!!! ALSO SLAUGHTERS RIVERS OF BLOOD!!!

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ANTI MAGE!!!!!!!

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its weird how it only costs fp on a successful spell parry, despite having some of the best frames in the game for a parry

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Make no mistake folks. This is an A/S tier AOW. I grab it on every run. The parry frames on this are the same regardless of the shield you use. Sure buckler parry will win by a small margin. But tbh I put this ON my buckler once I hit Caria manor. The added utility is worth the minor loss in times for melee attacks. After a year I’m finally getting a lot better parrying and it feels really good. I recommend everyone give this a go. Ps the Albinaurics at place ledge approach are great parry practice dummies ;).

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This thing is so goofy (in a good way). They just stand there dumbfounded after their Dark Moon magically disappears out of thin air. The glintblade phalanx effect is just icing on the cake, a lot of people get hit buy it due to it's semi-invisibility.

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Wish you could put this on a parrying dagger.

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This **** it’s broken after the lasted patch I’m taking full damage everytime I parry a spell I still get the swords but I take full damage

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This Ash of War can absolutely TRIVIALIZE the Draconic Tree Sentinel. If you don't really feel like fully fighting him, and don't want to use the Poison Mist cheese (which you might have to spend a Larval Tear to use), just slap this on a shield and go to town. Bait out the fireballs and parry, it's essentially risk free damage.
Keep your distance and alot several flasks for FP replenishment. You can completely avoid engaging up close to be as safe as possible, but if you want the fight to be faster you can learn how to parry the overhead-jump attack he does. It's the easiest attack to parry in my opinion. As soon as the claw passes over his head, hit the parry, then punish. If you can stagger him, punish. If not, then run.

10/10 Ash of War for me.

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My persona lfavorite ash of war. Screw you and your fireballs draconic tree sentinel.

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I noticed about this WA and I'm not sure if its noted. I use it alomf with a Chilling Mist miserocorde. While my weapon is buffed with ice, the blades will also cause frostbite. Not sure if it works with bleed poison rot etc.

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If I use the cold affinity, how do I get it to apply to an enemy? Parrying does not seem to add that status effect.

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Is the damage on this boosted by Shard of Alexander or the spellblade set? It says fixed at 150 so not very clear

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I feel like this should still scale in PvE, but not in PvP

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DO NOT use this against glintblades of any kind even if you parry all projectiles you can still take damage

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If you like parrying but miss your AOW, I recommend War Cry on your main hand. Works 1 handed and turns your R2's into improved Stamps. Great on a dex Swordspear with Roar Medallion and Spear Talisman. Counterhits for 1300+ in PVP uncharged with <800 AR unbuffed. 2H to reapply the buff every 40s is very manageable.

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The damage being limited to static 150 per projectile was WAY too big of a nerf. The damage should still get scaled just like before but just lower that scaling.

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Best frames AND only costs fp when spell parrying (and even then its not much). Why even use anything else?

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Parries Draconic Tree Sentinel's Fireballs 10/10

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Are the Frames the same on a medium shield?

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Unless I’m missing something, this AoW cannot be duplicated using Lost Ashes of War.

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Unless I’m missing something, this AoW cannot be duplicated using Lost Ashes of War.

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Well ****. I did the whole manor as early as possible because I wanted this on my misericorde without realizing it's only for shields. F.

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Invading players will enjoy using this skill. Mages, watch yourselves.

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Say I’m running an Arcane build, and would like to to put this on a small shield, giving it a Bleed Affinity to have it scale with Arcane. Would the damage of the Glintblades spawned by the weapon art scale off of my chosen Bleed Affinity? Or do they purely scale off of weapon upgrade level? Or even Intelligence, given they deal Magic damage?

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At higher level invasions it seems to be more worth it to invest in faith for the Erdtree Greatshield. Only downside is it doesn't parry.

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i wish this had different scaling, it oneshots at low level where mages do no damage, but tickles at high level where mages do 2/3 of your health with a pebble

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Anti-Moovneil parry.

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invaluable on low level invasions. It one-shots most magic spammers.

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Do the blades appear after parring a physical attack or just spells

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Before the patch I've almost oneshotted maliketh with this thing

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Magic Scorpion Charm will increase the damage of the glintblades. Seems to be just about the only thing that will.

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The nerf was sorely needed but I can’t help but think they over did. 700-900 damage would feel about right and it would be cool if shields that had innate magic damage like the Carian Knight Shield boosted it as well, just because it feels like it should

I’m personally glad they didn’t get rid of the self activation, it’s fun to use and it doesn’t feel cheap now that they nerfed it. Given the delayed 2-step activation, the 7 fp of the Wraith Calling Bell plus the 8 fp of the skill, I don’t feel it would be OP even at the damage range I just suggested. There’s both faster and more damaging spells and ashes you can use for 15 fp.

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so this parry is even better than the buckler one, I'm using it with the two headed bird shield and I found it easier to parry, thought I was getting better but actually it's the ash that's the best parry of all the ones out there

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damage does not go up with shield upgrade levels.

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This is better than Golden Parry (minus range) for physical because it doesnt cost FP.

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Please update this page.
Affinity has no effect on damage output from this skill, and you can no longer parry your own spells.

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Someone answer please!
Parrying normal attacks also takes the same frames as parrying a spell? Meaning the blue emitted light also parries normal attacks or only spells? Thanks.

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I once tried to counter-retaliate an opponent who retaliated my spell.

I was sorely disappointed when I found out I couldn’t do that.

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Does anyone know if this gets the same number of parry frames on a medium shield?
or any of the parry skills for that matter

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Is the damage not influenced by anything? I was testing is on mages in the academy that shoot glintblades, nothing I swapped made a difference. Changing my +18 great turtle shield from standard to magic and equipping +5 int talisman did nothing, it was like 112 per sword and 336 total. Switching to +0 Carian Knight shield and taking off int talisman still did 336 total, and switching it to magic and putting on int talisman still did not change the damage

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What happens if you have no FP- Can you still parry and is the animation the same?

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Is it possible to parry carian retaliation projectiles of someone else?

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I knew they patched it, but didn't know they nerfed it. Not gonna waste my time doing 300 damage to a mage.. ill stick to erdtree greatshield

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Wait... It got patched? Still feels the same when I use it lmao

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I'm glad it got patched, I can finally use it to legitimately parry enemy spells / Moonveil users spamming too much without feeling bad because of the glitch, plus the parry frames are still very good so it's a nice bonus.

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I'm glad it got patched, I can finally use it to legitimately parry enemy spells / Moonveil users spamming too much without feeling bad because of the glitch, plus the parry frames are still very good so it's a nice bonus.

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Went from Carian Retaliation to Carian can you not?

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This Ash Of War Trivialized the Draconic Tree Sentinel fight for me, just stayed back and reflected fireballs! I'm using it in every play-through to easily get passed It!

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Ash of War: Hoe’s Mad

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So, now the damage scales with the weapon in the right hand...? Or does it scale with nothing at all, and just deals a specific amount of flat damage?

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RIP to the best ash ever. Had a blast with this. Sad I didn't discover it until my 4th run through the game. And sad it's gone.

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things been nerfed but still very usable and sadly better than erdtree greatshield with less stat requirements

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Just wanna note: even after the patch, this is still a direct upgrade to your normal parry. It has scary good parry frames, counters spells, and only uses FP if it has too. Unless you have a specific reason to go for a different parry skill, I'd recommend slotting this in as your default.

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Ahahahahahahha stupid glitchers where's that power now not so tough without your one shot glitch now are ya

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Nerfed in 1.04.
It was funny to erase stupid RoB spam gankers around with that but honestly was too far OP. Sadly I have to challenge Godskin Duo without it. It's still reliable too, against mob casters for instance!

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Finally patched!! Right...?

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Should be fixed in 1.04

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Perfect for ganks
Cope
Seethe
Mald

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Bear with me a moment before you get your pitchforks and torches..

Being able to "feed" yourself a retaliation with the bell (or some other items, there's a few) is totally fine IMO since you're exposed for a while and it costs a decent chunk of FP. Kind of a 2-phase spell, if you will.

The ash's glintblades being invisible to other people obviously needs to be fixed, that goes without saying, but otherwise it's the damage that's really over the top. Use it in legit ways either against bosses or people that cast spells and you'll see them melt away in no time.

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Used against Sir Gideon, it lasted like 3-4 spells countered.

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If its in the game then its intended. Its NOT a "glitch" or an "exploit". This game is all about rewarding players who are smart enough to find clever interactions like parrying your own spells. So ironic how everyone who sends me hatemail for parrying my spells always tell me to "get good". Like maybe use your brain and learn how to counter it instead of crying that everything you don't like is a "glitch".

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It's dead everyone! We can enjoy the game a little bit more now! Just rework Bloodhound's Step and everything will be good.

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Self activation exploit is the worst thing ever. Theres like no defense against it. Kills at full HP and is invisible and totally instant. I'm legitimately shocked by the people here defending it as it currently exists. "Adapt"? "Cope"? lol like, how?

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Forget about the self activation and invisible swords glitch. This ash does absolutely broken amounts of damage for nearly 0 investment. Slap it onto any shield, upgrade it (or don't it still does massive damage) and watch how the glintblades will instantly do 3000 damage without any risk to yourself. Whether your proccing them yourself or parrying it from a player or boss, this is without a doubt the strongest ability in the game by a very wide margin. Fromsoft definitely did not test this ash for even a second, the damage is that unbelievable.

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This made the game casual for me.

Slapped that ash on the magic-infused Carian Knight's Shield and now I "shield-only" any boss that casts spells in about 2 or 3 shots. 1 shots almost anyone in PVP, granted they feed you a Retaliation.

Absolutely wrecked the Godskin Duo in record time.

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it says it costs fp, but, it doesn't

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not sure why people keep saying this is glitched or an exploit, it's intended to parry spells and damage nearby enemies, it does exactly that, the only issue I can see is the damage is way too high for PvP, it should probably be nerfed to around 500dmg rather than 2500+

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Hate to be that guy, but this needs to be nerfed. Obviously, the exploit needs to be fixed but I'm talking about it's damage. I literally just baited the Godskin Duo to throw their fireballs at me so I could Retaliate and one-shot them both. One-shots almost everybody in PVP that would be foolish enough to cast a slow-moving spell.

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willing to bet 9/10 people crying about how broken this in PvP are the same scrubs that just spam Rivers of Blood or Moonveil, it's actually pretty funny deleting them with this

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Does this parry the frenzy incantations too? I can never seem to get them parried

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Ok so I'm using this as intended, just parrying spells, but for some reason, maybe 1/5 people I hit with the daggers after the parry actually take damage from them. They always stagger, but rarely is a single point of damage dealt. Quite frustrating, what gives?

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I like this ash of war as a mean to do a no magic run and good in pvp against magic users as some form of protection

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Do I have to upgrade my shield to get better damage?

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Using Golden Vow prevents your carian retaliation blades ftom dealing damage

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I use the glitch on gank squads! In ds3 since it was still mostly just souls fans playing you would encounter a lot of hosts or summons letting you do 1v1 honorably but since this game has outsold them all, there is so many casuals just ganking with rivers of blood so I use it to kill the summons, or at least try to since you can’t control who they target. I try to get them to lock on the summons and then once they die a fair fight can begin! I can even handle rivers in pvp tho I still think it’s cheap and it also needs a nerf

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Me and a friend decided after we both beat the game we would try coop. We made new characters got the ability to level up, and then we got invaded by a guy using this ability. Obviously we got destroyed and we were only starting level. RIP us.

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Bloodhound step + this are the best ashes of war

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