Great Spears are a type of Weapon in Elden Ring. Using Great Spears allow players to deliver devastating blows from remarkable distances at the expense of attack speed and weight, as Great Spears are exceptionally heavy. Great Spears allow for attacking with a shield raised, letting users block and attack at the same time. They are also decent on horseback when compared to other weapons because of their extraordinarily long reach.
Great Spears deal Standard/Pierce Damage, though the base game weapon descriptions do not reflect this.
Only the Lance and Messmer Soldier's Spear can be modified with many different Ashes of War, allowing you to change their Skills and Damage Type. The rest have fixed Skills that cannot be changed.
Great Spears all share the same light attacks. Heavy attacks have a lot more variance, with the Lance, Mohgwyn's Sacred Spear, and Bloodfiend's Sacred Spear having a thrust, Vyke's War Spear, Serpent-Hunter, Siluria's Tree, and Barbed Staff-Spear having a horizontal sweep, Treespear and Messmer Soldier's Spear having a double poke, and Spear of the Impaler having a thrown attack.
Note: Patch 1.14 Increased the attack speed of the uncharged version of the first heavy attack (except Serpent-Hunter).
Shadow of the Erdtree added 4 new weapons for this category: Barbed Staff-Spear, Bloodfiend's Sacred Spear, Messmer Soldier's Spear and Spear of the Impaler.
Elden Ring Shadow of the Erdtree Great Spear Range Comparison
Weapon Range Data for Great Spears in Elden Ring. Credits to user Kaj.
Elden Ring Shadow of the Erdtree Great Spears
Elden Ring Shadow of the Erdtree Great Spears Base Values
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Name |
Phy | Mag | Fire | Ligh | Holy | Crit Boost |
Str | Dex | Int | Fai | Arc | Wgt | Skill |
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Bloodfiend's Sacred Spear |
115 40 |
- 25 |
- 25 |
- 25 |
- 25 |
100 30 |
22 E |
12 E |
- - |
- - |
13 C |
8 | 20 |
Messmer Soldier's Spear |
122 56 |
- 35 |
- 35 |
- 35 |
- 35 |
100 43 |
19 D |
16 D |
- - |
- - |
- - |
8.5 | 9 |
Spear of the Impaler |
85 48 |
- 32 |
102 32 |
- 64 |
- 32 |
100 45 |
14 E |
35 C |
- - |
18 D |
- - |
9.5 | 15 |
Barbed Staff-Spear |
86 42 |
- 31 |
- 31 |
- 31 |
86 45 |
100 37 |
14 E |
18 E |
- - |
22 C |
- - |
7.5 | 4 |
Lance |
123 57 |
- 36 |
- 36 |
- 36 |
- 36 |
100 44 |
20 D |
14 D |
- - |
- - |
- - |
9 | 13 |
Treespear |
122 55 |
- 35 |
- 35 |
- 35 |
79 48 |
100 45 |
15 D |
22 D |
- - |
18 D |
- - |
9.5 | 18 |
Serpent-Hunter |
111 72 |
- 42 |
- 42 |
- 42 |
- 42 |
100 50 |
- B |
- E |
- - |
- - |
- - |
12 | 15 |
Siluria's Tree |
90 51 |
- 36 |
- 36 |
- 36 |
90 55 |
100 46 |
27 D |
13 E |
- - |
20 D |
- - |
10 | 25 |
Vyke's War Spear |
103 52 |
- 33 |
66 45 |
- 33 |
- 33 |
100 42 |
16 E |
20 C |
- - |
18 D |
- - |
8 | 22 |
Mohgwyn's Sacred Spear |
96 57 |
- 38 |
62 38 |
- 38 |
- 38 |
100 46 |
24 D |
14 E |
- - |
- - |
27 D |
10 | 20 (-20) |
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Name | Phy | Mag | Fir | Lit | Hol | Cri | Sta | Str | Dex | Int | Fai | Arc | Any | Phy | Mag | Fir | Lit | Hol | Bst | Rst | Wgt |
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Messmer Soldier's Spear |
298 | - | - | - | - | 100 | 124 | C | C | - | - | - | - | 56 | 35 | 35 | 35 | 35 | 51.6 | 20 | 8.5 |
Bloodfiend's Sacred Spear |
281 | - | - | - | - | 100 | 80 | D | E | - | - | B | (60) | 40 | 25 | 25 | 25 | 25 | 33 | 15 | 8 |
Spear of the Impaler |
208 | - | 249 | - | - | 100 | 122 | E | B | - | C | - | - | 48 | 32 | 32 | 64 | 32 | 49.5 | 21 | 9.5 |
Barbed Staff-Spear |
210 | - | - | - | 210 | 100 | 96 | D | D | - | A | - | (55) | 42 | 31 | 31 | 31 | 45 | 40.7 | 18 | 7.5 |
Lance | 301 | - | - | - | - | 100 | 122 | C | C | - | - | - | - | 57 | 36 | 36 | 36 | 36 | 52.8 | 21 | 9 |
Mohgwyn's Sacred Spear | 235 | - | 151 | - | - | 100 | 128 | C | D | - | - | C | (55) | 57 | 36 | 49 | 36 | 36 | 50.6 | 22 | 10 |
Serpent-Hunter | 271 | - | - | - | - | 100 | 146 | A | E | - | - | - | - | 72 | 42 | 42 | 42 | 42 | 55 | 24 | 12 |
Siluria's Tree | 220 | - | - | - | 220 | 100 | 128 | B | D | - | C | - | - | 51 | 36 | 36 | 36 | 55 | 50.6 | 22 | 10 |
Treespear | 298 | - | - | - | 193 | 100 | 122 | D | C | - | D | - | - | 55 | 35 | 35 | 35 | 48 | 54 | 21 | 9.5 |
Vyke's War Spear | 252 | - | 161 | - | - | 100 | 122 | D | B | - | C | - | (65) | 52 | 33 | 45 | 33 | 33 | 46.2 | 20 | 8 |
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Name | Phy | Mag | Fir | Lit | Hol | Cri | Sta | Str | Dex | Int | Fai | Arc | Any | Phy | Mag | Fir | Lit | Hol | Bst | Rst | Wgt |
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Messmer Soldier's Spear |
274 | - | - | - | - | 100 | 124 | A | - | - | - | - | - | 56 | 35 | 35 | 35 | 35 | 47.3 | 20 | 8.5 |
Lance | 277 | - | - | - | - | 100 | 122 | A | - | - | - | - | - | 57 | 36 | 36 | 36 | 36 | 48.4 | 21 | 9 |
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Name | Phy | Mag | Fir | Lit | Hol | Cri | Sta | Str | Dex | Int | Fai | Arc | Any | Phy | Mag | Fir | Lit | Hol | Bst | Rst | Wgt |
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Messmer Soldier's Spear |
274 | - | - | - | - | 100 | 124 | E | B | - | - | - | - | 56 | 35 | 35 | 35 | 35 | 47.3 | 20 | 8.5 |
Lance | 277 | - | - | - | - | 100 | 122 | E | B | - | - | - | - | 57 | 36 | 36 | 36 | 36 | 48.4 | 21 | 9 |
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Name | Phy | Mag | Fir | Lit | Hol | Cri | Sta | Str | Dex | Int | Fai | Arc | Any | Phy | Mag | Fir | Lit | Hol | Bst | Rst | Wgt |
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Messmer Soldier's Spear |
239 | - | - | - | - | 100 | 124 | B | B | - | - | - | - | 56 | 35 | 35 | 35 | 35 | 47.3 | 20 | 8.5 |
Lance | 241 | - | - | - | - | 100 | 122 | B | B | - | - | - | - | 57 | 36 | 36 | 36 | 36 | 48.4 | 21 | 9 |
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Name | Phy | Mag | Fir | Lit | Hol | Cri | Sta | Str | Dex | Int | Fai | Arc | Any | Phy | Mag | Fir | Lit | Hol | Bst | Rst | Wgt |
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Messmer Soldier's Spear |
198 | - | 198 | - | - | 100 | 124 | C | E | - | - | - | - | 53.2 | 33.25 | 43.75 | 40.25 | 33.25 | 43 | 19 | 8.5 |
Lance | 200 | - | 200 | - | - | 100 | 122 | C | E | - | - | - | - | 54.15 | 34.2 | 45 | 41.4 | 34.2 | 44 | 19.95 | 9 |
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Name | Phy | Mag | Fir | Lit | Hol | Cri | Sta | Str | Dex | Int | Fai | Arc | Any | Phy | Mag | Fir | Lit | Hol | Bst | Rst | Wgt |
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Messmer Soldier's Spear |
234 | - | 234 | - | - | 100 | 124 | E | E | - | B | - | - | 53.2 | 33.25 | 43.75 | 40.25 | 33.25 | 43 | 19 | 8.5 |
Lance | 236 | - | 236 | - | - | 100 | 122 | E | E | - | B | - | - | 54.15 | 34.2 | 45 | 41.4 | 34.2 | 44 | 19.95 | 9 |
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Name | Phy | Mag | Fir | Lit | Hol | Cri | Sta | Str | Dex | Int | Fai | Arc | Any | Phy | Mag | Fir | Lit | Hol | Bst | Rst | Wgt |
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Messmer Soldier's Spear |
203 | - | - | 203 | - | 100 | 124 | E | C | - | - | - | - | 53.2 | 33.25 | 40.25 | 43.75 | 33.25 | 43 | 19 | 8.5 |
Lance | 205 | - | - | 205 | - | 100 | 122 | E | C | - | - | - | - | 54.15 | 34.2 | 41.4 | 45 | 34.2 | 44 | 19.95 | 9 |
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Name | Phy | Mag | Fir | Lit | Hol | Cri | Sta | Str | Dex | Int | Fai | Arc | Any | Phy | Mag | Fir | Lit | Hol | Bst | Rst | Wgt |
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Messmer Soldier's Spear |
234 | - | - | - | 234 | 100 | 124 | E | E | - | B | - | - | 53.2 | 40.25 | 33.25 | 33.25 | 43.75 | 43 | 19 | 8.5 |
Lance | 236 | - | - | - | 236 | 100 | 122 | E | E | - | B | - | - | 54.15 | 41.4 | 34.2 | 34.2 | 45 | 44 | 19.95 | 9 |
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Name | Phy | Mag | Fir | Lit | Hol | Cri | Sta | Str | Dex | Int | Fai | Arc | Any | Phy | Mag | Fir | Lit | Hol | Bst | Rst | Wgt |
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Messmer Soldier's Spear |
234 | 234 | - | - | - | 100 | 124 | E | E | B | - | - | - | 53.2 | 43.75 | 33.25 | 33.25 | 40.25 | 43 | 19 | 8.5 |
Lance | 236 | 236 | - | - | - | 100 | 122 | E | E | B | - | - | - | 54.15 | 45 | 34.2 | 34.2 | 41.4 | 44 | 19.95 | 9 |
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Name | Phy | Mag | Fir | Lit | Hol | Cri | Sta | Str | Dex | Int | Fai | Arc | Any | Phy | Mag | Fir | Lit | Hol | Bst | Rst | Wgt |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Messmer Soldier's Spear |
210 | 178 | - | - | - | 100 | 124 | C | C | B | - | - | (127) | 53.2 | 40.25 | 33.25 | 33.25 | 33.25 | 43 | 19 | 8.5 |
Lance | 212 | 169 | - | - | - | 100 | 122 | C | C | B | - | - | (127) | 54.15 | 41.4 | 34.2 | 34.2 | 34.2 | 44 | 19.95 | 9 |
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Name | Phy | Mag | Fir | Lit | Hol | Cri | Sta | Str | Dex | Int | Fai | Arc | Any | Phy | Mag | Fir | Lit | Hol | Bst | Rst | Wgt |
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Messmer Soldier's Spear |
251 | - | - | - | - | 100 | 124 | C | C | - | - | D | (115) | 53.2 | 33.25 | 33.25 | 33.25 | 33.25 | 43 | 20 | 8.5 |
Lance | 253 | - | - | - | - | 100 | 122 | C | C | - | - | D | (115) | 54.15 | 34.2 | 34.2 | 34.2 | 34.2 | 44 | 21 | 9 |
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Name | Phy | Mag | Fir | Lit | Hol | Cri | Sta | Str | Dex | Int | Fai | Arc | Any | Phy | Mag | Fir | Lit | Hol | Bst | Rst | Wgt |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Messmer Soldier's Spear |
251 | - | - | - | - | 100 | 124 | C | C | - | - | D | (100) | 53.2 | 33.25 | 33.25 | 33.25 | 33.25 | 43 | 19 | 8.5 |
Lance | 253 | - | - | - | - | 100 | 122 | C | C | - | - | D | (100) | 54.15 | 34.2 | 34.2 | 34.2 | 34.2 | 44 | 19.95 | 9 |
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Name | Phy | Mag | Fir | Lit | Hol | Cri | Sta | Str | Dex | Int | Fai | Arc | Any | Phy | Mag | Fir | Lit | Hol | Bst | Rst | Wgt |
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Messmer Soldier's Spear |
263 | - | - | - | - | 100 | 124 | D | D | - | - | A | - | 56 | 35 | 35 | 35 | 35 | 47.3 | 20 | 8.5 |
Lance | 265 | - | - | - | - | 100 | 122 | D | E | - | - | B | - | 57 | 36 | 36 | 36 | 36 | 48.4 | 21 | 9 |
- Anonymous
this weapon category is MADE for the awl pike, and yet, it isn't in elden ring.
truly a shame
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5 faith spears & not a single int spear. Not even a giant, slender hunk of glintstone shaped into a greatspear? Or a slim shard of meteoric ore?
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I really wish the serpent hunter wasnt somber. It would be so rad to swing that bad boy around with a storm like the nameless king
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To use dual great spears with pre-nerf tracking you need to have serpent hunter in your right hand
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Barbed spear weapon art also causes bleed build up, definitely worth mentioning
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bloodfiend sacred spear says 13 dex here but 12 in page, fixy timey!
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its nice that we finally got another great spear that can have infusions and ashes of war, it removes the need to get it NG+. felt like the base game didnt have enough great spears the extra four are a great addition
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kind of wish at least one of these had the colossal sword pierce R2. alas only ds2 was cool enough to mix other weapon movesets w/ eachother
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Rest in no intelligence great spears. It would be "Poketh Poketh Poketh"
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The PvP sh*tters wet dream.
Works with roll talisman.
Has vortex and anti air while powerstanced on the crouch L1.
Pick your poison, treespears for dex, messmers for best infusable.
This sh*t will be nerfed soon.
One super fun and also genuinely useful perk of this weapon class:
All weapons have hit-detection during the wind-up phase of charged R2s on horseback, but with Great Spears (and possibly all thrusting polearms; haven’t tested them all) it actually drags the enemy along with you the whole time and keeps them completely stun-locked and unable to do anything until the final big swing, which by then almost always finishes them off.
Really helps fulfill the “horseback knight with a lance” role-play fantasy. It’s like you’re impaling them with the pointy tip and taking them along for a little ride. Combine with Lance and Spear talismans for maximum enjoyment (and carnage).
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probably my least favorite moveset in the game, feels awful to use
They are so many Great Spears now, meanwhile Scythes: *skull emoji*
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the regular 2H and 1H crouch/rolling attack of all spears except serpent-hunter doesn't do pierce damage despite the damage type description only mentioning pierce, I belive it does strike but it could be standard
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DLC Please give us one more BIIG lance to put ashes of war (namely giant hunt) so I can stab a dragon without looking like I should always be mounted on torrent.
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Only the tip of the spear should actually have a hitbox, not the whole shaft.
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ngl, its kinda hard to be mad at people using this in the colosseum even if they are broken. Technically, we are wrong by not using whats best, since we intentionally give up advantages, on the other hand, games are about fun, so sacrificing the meta for more fun is also a valid way to play
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I thought it was easy to play the powerstance, accidentally use running L1 and sometimes normal L1 and look like a complete idiot, i'll just stick with halberd LMAO i succ so much
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When I'm in a maidenless competition and my opponent is powerstancing
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i wish there was a least one more regular great spear that could take ashes of war
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I don't know if this is noted elsewhere or if maybe it affects more weapon types, but AFAIK, Great Spears have an unique feature while fighting on horseback / Torrent: the first part of the charged heavy attack can hit the same enemy several times. You can move next to an enemy, hold R2 to charge the heave attack, and it will keep hitting him four or five times before the finishing hit. This will also keep staggering smaller enemies, making them unable to fight back or dodge the last hit.
All other weapons I tested (including normal spears and halberds) can hit different enemies during the charge phase, but will only damage the same enemy once before the finishing hit.
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Finally did a playthrough with Mogh's spear. I didn't build very optimised, forgot White mask and stuff. But omg how on earth did they nerf RoB back in the day ( rightly so ), and leave this one as it is? If it ( the skill ) got nerfed to about half its current power, it would STILL be very good XD . It also kills everything above you , like imps in catacombs if there's a floor above you, it can even kill Patches before he jumps down ( don't do that obviously but I was trying out exactly how high up the skill hitbox went and it's ridiculous lol )
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using this for an rl1 run to combat the amount of people who invade powerstancing these mfs
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Ya I immediately block anyone I see power stancing these annoying things they're pure cancer in the arena and its the perfect indication that the person wielding them will automatically be an insufferable toxic tryhard sweat.
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jeenine ruined build variety in this game more than tiktok ruined gen alpha kids
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Unlike spears these only really have op powerstanced crouch pokes, but two handing a great spear is also very fun and the running r2 is soo sexy
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From the moment I understood the weakness of normal moveset, it disgusted me. I craved the strength and certainty of powerstance. I aspired to the purity of the blessed L1. Your kind cling to your "honor" as if it will not...decaaay and fail you. One day, your "skill" will prove useless, and you will beg the PSGS to save you.
But I, am already saved. For the PSGS user is immortal.
Even in death, I crouch poke.
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It seems that ant skull plate shield has the potential to counter power stanced greatspears.
But first of all if you want to employ it you must understand that shields have a stat called “hardness” which is detailed in this website, but what you have to know is that weapons bounce off a shield when their hardness is inferior (not equal) except when attacking two handed and any running, jumping attacks and charged R2s.
Ant skull shield has a hardness superior to greatspears. Weapons do bounce off when you attack with powerstance, so those attacks from crouching L1s will stun them and you’ll be able to strike back.
Same situation happens with spears, though these have an annoying running attack so you’ll have to watch out for those. Tbh most dual spear users are brainless so you’ll be fine.
If you want some extra perks to the shield you can equip shield talisman and/or use scholar greatshield with demihuman queen staff to avoid using a talisman slot. For that you’ll need 12 int which can be easily obtained with vagabond starting class and using rennala crown.
Now I don’t know which attacks can be used to punish that bounce off, whether a guard counter or a TS poke. Besides it can be easily countered by antspur rapier with rot grease swap or pretty much any of the attacks mentioned.
But what’s certain is that it helps against spear users and that you can’t fully rely on the guard
Lukewarm take: powerstancing these is just as if not sometimes more annoying than RoB and spoonveil spammers.
Still nowhere close to those two pre-nerfs though
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if u use 2 of these in pvp you might as well uninstall the game and go on a spiritual journey to grow as a person, hopefully by the time you're back the rest of us would have died of old age and will not meet you in the arena
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As a powerstanced great spear user (mostly invasion experience) here is some tips to deal with them.
1. Long reach weapons like halberts can punish PSGS if you have better spacing than opponent. If you are quite good at spacing powerstance straight swords can melt a PSGS user if latency isn’t super bad.
2. Watch out for jumping r1 as it has a lot of reach and is a common follow up after a crouch poke to mix up their attacks.
3. Endure on high pressure weapons like star fist forces them to lessen pressure against you.
4. If you’re at edge of their attack range run instead of roll away as it’s harder to punish due to being faster and having a less predictable direction. (Doesn’t work close up!)
5. If they are trying to vortex you with crouch pokes by waiting for a roll, instead attack them. Ideally with a hyperarmor or very fast weapon.
6. Best advice I can give is try out this setup and see how people avoid your attacks. Will feel a awkward to use PSSG until you get more experienced with it.
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Just saw someone interrupting malenia waterfowl with bloodboon ritual and it was gorgeous
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A part of me wants the DLC to include a great spear that's just a big f*** you tree trunk. Not even sharpened on one end to make it function like a spear -- make it exclusively deal strike damage.
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Use Endure against crouch poke spam
Trade with something fast and damaging like star fists
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Powerstancing these requires way more skill than powerstancing normal spears
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Those are way better than normal spears or, atleast, to me it seems like they have a bigger hitboxes(obv, otherwise they wouldn't be GREAT spears). I stubbornly decided to do the bossfight against Fortissax with Granssax spear without using it's weapon art, the amount of times I missed was painful.
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Wish we could get an infusible version of vykes warspear. Things sexy af
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I just wish there was 1 infusable great spear that wasn't a lance
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I find psgs quite fun to use in pvp. Vykes paired with treespear is a fun combo. I find myself rarely using crouch attacks anyway so idk why everyone hates it so much. The recovery time for attacks and stamina consumption leaves room for error too so it's a little more balanced. I think it's just a good pick, not utterly broken like other builds.
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hts with hyperarmor. Just throw out a random standing r1 and it'll probably rollcatch somehow lmfao
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I met a guy today who put spinning slash on the great lance. We had a great duel, but like... did anyone knew it was possible? And also why is it? Putting an ash with the word "slash" in it onto a weapon that has no slashing edge feels a bit counterproductive.
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great dev choice making 4 of the 6 gs require fath/arcane and an even greater dev choice for gluing special l2s onto them leaving the lance as the only one that can be infused, making it slightly less terrible than ds3 but still
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The big war banner the pumpkin soldiers carry around would have been a cool add, what a shame
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tfw almost all heavy spear have designated ash of war. fromsoft be really trollin spear users. ig no dragoon cosplay. hopefully the DLC will add some
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it is a CRIME that only 1! (1) greatspear exists that you can INFUSE with an ash of war. tragedy.
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Yknow besides the fact the great spear class feels really redundant (a poking weapon, but slow with more stagger? by god! give that man a promotion) there were a few things that could have saved it by maybe having more than 1 in the whole game that can be infused ?? besides that it really sucks that this and their normal sized cousins have gotten turned into an instant red flag in pvp. I usually disconnect from hosts that t-bag but if I see you rolling up with a lance i do not feel bad you got ganked.
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Would it really have been so hard to make some regular spears bigger and move them to this class?
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greatspears are really fun outside of pvp. i really enjoy serpent-hunter and vyke's for thematics and the crazy stance-breaking, but boy are they the biggest pain to go against *in* pvp. i never really use them in pvp because it's basically cheating
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pls miyazaki just tell me this was all just a social experiment and these weapons can be removed from the game pls tell me i won't get mad i promise
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psgs users get the pointdown emote from me every time. Yes, it's petty. But god, I am tired of duel lance users
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Only solace is that the average psgs player is completely brain rotted and will fall for any amount of mixups
The only weapon class that has a moveset that is actually viable to receive the benefits of the Twinblade Talisman
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Sees that all of my opponents have dual Great Spears. "Thats OK. I didn't want to have fun anyways."
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So someone removed every button from my controller except for L3, L1, and X. Now I originally thought I wasn't going to be able to play the game anymore but fortunately the Great Spear weapon class exists to prove me wrong.
Now I can easily kill those evil red bastards in a totally fair 3v1 and call it skill. Thanks, Elden Ring.
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Its funny watching a psgs player just standing there humping the ground when you refuse to roll so they can reaction rollcatch you
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About to get downvoted but in my opinion powerstanced greatspears are the most fun setup to use in the game. Every single move they have serves a purpose depending on the situation.
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if the average ping between players wasn't 300 these would be literally impossible to play against
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Ah, the martial art teabagging your opponent to death before you teabag them.
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I did it! i found out how to dodge the stupid crouch attack! (most of the time) Start running away from the dual-spear guy, and then dodge when you're about to leave the range of the spears. Most of them will try to make you panic roll, so instead force them to attack and dodge accordingly.
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I wish there was a great spear besides the lance that you could use AoW's on ... hoping we get on in the DLC
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PSGS can be very tough to fight however there are ways to beat it. For those PSGS players that tend to wave dash at you to psych you out into panic rolling instead attack them and keep up intense hyper aggression. Don’t give them a second to breathe and force them to back off. I’ve had the most success with the knights greatsword by free aiming my hits. Play very close attention to how they react to certain actions and try to mix up what you do. If they are running from you watch out for a quick pivot jump attack. You can force them to roll or jump by using the gravity stone fan and punish accordingly with either a roll catch or by backstabbing after their jump attack. In order to effectively counter PSGS you need to stay calm and keep up as much pressure as you can. If they are using BHS or quickstep delay your attacks slightly to catch them or use ashes of war that cover a wide area around you with a lingering hitbox such as flaming strike or storm stomp. Having an offhand dagger or thrusting sword can be used to get some chip damage on them over the course of the fight and can be used to quickly finish them off when they get to low health. Overall it will be a tough fight unless they aren’t very good but they can be beat and it just takes some practice.
- Anonymous
The most underwhelming class out of all the heavy weapon classes for pve. Like every aspect of them feels mediocre in comparison with the other heavy classes. From its individual hit damage, dps, stance damage, moveset, etc. liek only two are above average simply because of their ashes.
- Anonymous
These got the exact opposite problem that claws have, this weapon class doesnt have enough infusable weapons, and claws have no somber weapons.
- Anonymous
- Anonymous
I wish we will have more infusable Great Spears in the DLC I wanna slap some cool Ashes on them
- Anonymous
Out of 6 great spears only 1 is infuseable/ can have its Aow changed. A waste, such a cool weapon class...
- Anonymous
It's a big problem that most of these deal split damage as the spear talisman only boost physical AR on counter.
- Anonymous
If I had a nickel for every Dex/Faith Great Spear, I'd have two nickels. Which is a lot, considering that there are a total of six Great Spears.
- Anonymous
The 1.09 nerfed a few overpowered things, but these didn't even get touched. Expect to see even more people dual wielding these in your invasions/duels.
If I'm reading the game data right, the dual-wielded running attack with Great Spears hit 10 times. What's the interaction with things like Rotten Winged Sword Insignia, Millicent's Prosthesis, and Godskin Swaddling Cloth? Do the multiple hits trigger them as often as the numbers suggest or is there a penalty?
- Anonymous
Why is the dual wielded crouch attack so fast? If i try to reaction dodge it, BOOM half my healthbar gone.
If i dodge before they attack they can reaction hit me.
The hell im i supposed to do?
- Anonymous
Weird to me they only have one great spear that you can change the ash of war on
- Anonymous
No great spears for INT, but two for FAITH or DEX + FAITH, "nice" I hope in DLC they add good great spear for INT or DEX + INT
- Anonymous
Lance: chilly mist + BHS power stance ooo how creative. Serpent Hunter: crouch r1 moment. Vyke's: ok so my arc build host will spam sleep grease ripple halberd running r1s while i phantom hit to apply frenzy, and when they fall asleep i press l2!!! xd!!! Mohgwyn: invader who tries to win with powerstance moveset and then gets frustrated, presses l2 until victorious, and teabags. Siluria's and Treespear are cool.
- Anonymous
I miss the murky hand scythe. It wasn't as cancerous as these weaons.
- Anonymous
but why does the powerstance crouching attack have 180 degrees of tracking
- Anonymous
I’m just saying that I use the tree spear everywhere I sometimes have to use a dagger on a faster target but still my main weapon is the tree spear
- Anonymous
- Anonymous
I'm not sure why people gas up the power stance jump attack so much, its only really good against high recovery moves. Switch to a thrusting sword and then it's no longer useful.
- Anonymous
i wanna powerstance Treespear and Lance without feeling like a filthy casul plz nerf
- Anonymous
hmm today i will give the longest weapons in the game the best tracking attack in the entire game, surely this will have no repercussions on the balanced of pvp
Almost the inverse of katanas in terms of int/faith, although greatspears have more non physical options than katanas. Five faith great spears, and three int katanas, no int greatspears, no faith katanas, two arcane greatspears, one arcane katana.
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