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had a dream that there was a 3rd boss weapon option where there was a dex version of maliketh's black blade that was constantly glowing red like this once you met the requirements and had a different l2 i can't even describe, this adds nothing to the convo about his spell i just needed to relay for some reason

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Does anyone know if Godfrey’s Icon applies to this for +15% on charged attacks?

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Literally the only thing I had that allowed me to do any significant damage to Radagon/Elden Beast. Faith builds really start to flag near the end of the game, but this helped me pull through. Plus, it looks awesome.

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This does insane damage w erdtree seal at 80 faith, stacked with holy scorpion charm and it's even better when using holy cracked tear and golden vow on top of that.

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The destined death health reduction effect on blade of death lasts for like ~40 seconds after the hp sap ends, the Black Blade incantation effect however lasts for only 15 seconds including the sap duration (13 seconds after sap ends).
It also has piss poor damage, testing on the giant out side godricks room with stats of 22 str, 24 dex, and 46 fai, a black knife +9, and godslayers seal +24 with 240 Inc scaling the black knifes ash does ~1297 dmg total while the Black Blade inc only does a measly ~446 dmg (projectile).
On a different character which I tailored (to my best ability) to benefit the Black Blade inc (11 str, 12 dex, 99 fai; Black knife +10, Erdtree seal +10, 367 inc scaling) along with equipping the 2 canvas talismans and sacred scorpion charm only with the Black Blade inc, The Black Knife's ash got a total of 1522 dmg, with the Black blade (projectile) dealing only an astonishing 860 dmg all talismans equipped, with golden vow and howl it still only manages to deal ~1209, 313 dmg less; a fully optimized, buffed, and assisted Black Blade incant (projectile) dealt 313 less damage then a completely plain Blade of death.
Icing on the cake, the ash of war costs 25fp, 1 fp less then the incantation along with having extremely easy requirements to reach that (almost) all players should be able to reach and most likely succeed in order to have the bare minimum faith to use golden vow.
Why is it that this incantation is so bad compared to the black knife especially considering (in my opinion) that the incantations power should dwarf that of the black knifes. This needs a serious buff both in damage and utility; this incantation is literal death, is super cool, you get at the end of the game, and has a absurdly high faith req. Id rather this have a near double increase in fp (which would be cosmic bs considering the cost of Blade of death the ash of black knife (which is only a projectile) )consumption then stay an in-superior, niche, and overall disappointing incantation. - it also takes up 2 slots as opposed to the black knife only costing you 2 weight.
- (I only tested the projectile from the black blade in all of this so real quick the dmg of the Black Blade inc, projectile and blade body, using all the bells and whistles is ~2662 dmg, now you might be think "oh thats not so bad" i want to remind you that it took a fully optimized build (favoring the incant) with buffs and talismans to deal that damage at blank range (1140 more damage then the base black knife ash) mind however that this is when its all leaning in the favor of the incant, with nothing assisting its ~1531 (only 9 more damage!). Another few things to note is that you have to more or less be kissing the toes of your target (which lets be real your not doing ~80% of the time) to get this damage with the inc while on, the other hand you can receive a more powerful debuff (lasting more then twice as long) form a safe distance and (while only by 1) less fp cost with trade off being 9 big ole points of damage, insane.
(also Blade of death, the ash of the knife only scales through faith due to being holy (which I guess the stat spread doesn't really matter that much but still) and at +10 black knife only gets a C scaling in faith, so idk what point really to make here but it means smth, i know it in my bones)
(sorry for the poor format or any errors, a lot of this was going back and forth and adding stuff in-between. I originally decided do this on a whim and only ask why the duration of the hp reduction and sap was so short but while counting I was like wow those numbers seem kind of weird and then i started testing and holy i was astounded and then i started adding in the values and all that. The current strength and utility of this incant is just sad, completely overshadowed, and utterly garbage in comparison. Please michael zaki fix/buff it, I promise we wont complain about your swamps and foot thing in the dlc)

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elden beast went down in 5 incantations, also looks sick af. based incantation

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I‘m confused, all of you be talking like: "It does Pathetic Damage, it‘s not worth it bla bla bla", this **** hit‘s for 3k - 2k on a daily basis for me but I can‘t explain why. The 2k on Malenia and the 3k on Night‘s Cavalry (concecrated snowfield) just as a side note, that were the main targets of my Black Blades

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I use it as a special move when surrounded by PvE enemies because of the hyper armor, range and damage. I'm using an erdtree build so I only use the erdtree incants. It really adds a lot to the build and is effective in many situations. I love to use it on a stunned boss. Or flanked mobs in coop. It's quite versatile. Sure, it doesn't deal massive damage and cannot be spammed, but it is effective in many situations when used appropriately.

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It's pathetic honestly. Total damage is soo bad that even discus of light could be a better dps incant with a good build. If you want the percentage damage, use black flame

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Most useless incantation I've ever seen. Does less damage than an uncharged Lightning Spear or Black Flame despite the incredibly long casting animation, and this includes enemies with high fire resistance to the latter.

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Does it have hyper armor during castin?

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Be honest: there’s really no point to the 10% hp debuff, it doesn’t last that long, and bosses that recover HP like Malenia, yeah good luck beating her that fast.

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Ah yes, The Mortal Blade, Elden Ring edition.

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Ah yes, The Mortal Blade, Elden Ring edition.

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Save this in your front pocket for when you meet God.

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The hp debuff seems to be stackable meaning if you hit the enemy with the blade and projectile you’ll get two instances of destined death simultaneously. Occasionally, the projectile hits twice on larger targets resulting in three destined death dots. Malikeths black blade seems to work the same. Probably one of the best options on elden beast

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> purchase Black Blade

> look inside

> red

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After testing on Greyoll with an un upgraded seal I found the hp % drain to be between 3 to 4% on a single hit. Another note is that the blade and projectile have separate hit boxes which mean it can hit twice in a single cast.

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Does the blade also do damage? I noticed I deal around 300 damage if I hit with only the projectile but when someone gets within melee distance it deals like 600. I assumed it was because the blade also hit.

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Does the hp sap on this deal a percentage of damage like black flame does or is it like a static number? (just to clarify I don't mean the 10% max hp reduction but the "saps enemy hp for 2 seconds")

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You spam spells and run away the moment someone gets close. I free aim chain cast combo this while doing 360s to absolutely dunk on people. We are not the same.

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Honestly it should have a cooler moveset, like the way maliketh does it in the fight

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I have an issue with this incantation. Yes, is really cool and the destined death effect is very good. But it seems that due to the max health reduction the first blast (ranged) does 0 damage and all comes from the latter damage ticks and the followup attack. I hope that this is a bug and the end up fixing it because it is a shame

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Someone please explain the math to me. Both this and Blade of Death are supposed to drain 10% of max HP from bosses. You can stack both effects at once, presumably for 20% health lost. The bosses don't regain the health they lost when the effect wears off, yet hitting them with it ten times doesn't kill them, or even come close. This is against Placidusax btw, what's happening?

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Like all black flame incantations, it's great against bosses with huge health bars.

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You can actually get some really high damage if you hit the enemy with the illusory sword. Even though it seems more like a projectile incantation, it does twice as much damage when you use it like a melee attack.

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Is the hp draining part of this spell have it's damage increased over time with the Old Lord talisman?

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Anyone know if it’s buffed by the godslayer seal?

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Interestingly enough, it doesn't seem to produce an Incantation sigil. Not sure if any other incantations are like this. It goes immediately into the blade used to attack with, no sigils appearing either in-hand, along the blade, or on impact.

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does this incantation count as a jump attack? i would think so because of the attack animation

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Pretty much strictly a PvE spell. No way in hell you're landing this on anybody.

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Does someone know the exact amount it drains?

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Just now realizing that this is an updated gravelord sword dance from ds1. Also nito is the lord of death. Maliketh holds the rune of death. These games are so good at improving their ideas and making them feel new. It's not just a re-used spell from an old game. Its completly re-imagined.

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You can currently do the follow-up attack from the left hand.

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LORD FAITH GET COOLER AND STRONGER SWORD LIKE ATTACKS. Plus they can hold lightning bolts in their hands. makes Intelligence look like trash

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I also really liked this spell because of its range and strength (and I would have made the wave stronger then against small enemies, and not weakened it, as they did now). The only weakening of the wave was needed for big enemies and that's it. But it would be cooler if we did this spell with charging. The wave flew out only after charging and with good damage, and without charging, a melee strike and with faster cast animation and also with good damage. Now, as a melee spell, the black blade has been cast for too long. Now the spell can be used twice and the second animation is a little faster. I would have the charged blade use the first animation and start a wave, and the melee use the second animation, the one that is faster

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I also really liked this spell because of its range and strength (and I would have made the wave stronger then against small enemies, and not weakened it, as they did now). The only weakening of the wave was needed for big enemies and that's it. But it would be cooler if we did this spell with charging. The wave flew out only after charging and with good damage, and without charging, a melee strike and with faster cast animation and also with good damage. Now, as a melee spell, the black blade has been cast for too long

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I wish they had just added a hitbox to the blade without lowering the projectioe damage. The damage is great when both the blade and wave hit but as someone who used it more as a ranged attack, like a longer ranged Black Knife, the changes feel dissapointing. You already have great Incantations for closer range where the damage on this is optimal, but what about long range? You have Frenzied Burst and free aimed Stones of Gurranq. Feels like a nice ranged tool in the kit was severely diminished to make yet another close range incant but with a ranged flourish added on. Totally don't have multiple lightning attacks that do that already.

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Can't decide which remembrances to duplicate. Do you need this one if you can wield the actual Black Blade sword?
Is there a popular consensus for Faith/Dex ?

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you can use it in left hand now thankfully

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>simply named Black Blade
>red

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i hit 8000 dmg with this
with golden order seal 419 Inc power :3

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It has a left hand glitch so you can't use the full combo, and it doesn't even hit as hard as the black knife weapon art at 60fth and 282 incant scaling

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Left-handed casting bugged, yup.

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the sword part itself finally has a hitbox right?

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This spell is bugged. For some reason putting in an additional input no longer allows the second animation and simply restarts the original spell animation

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This Incantation is currently glitched if you decide to use it with your left hand seal.

It makes you unable to do the follow up attack and has you reset to the first attack.

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rips dragons apart

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Literally have other spells that manifest swords that have a melee hitbox but this doesn’t. Silly and non-intuitive.

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I have found that while it doesn’t stack with blade of death and dagger of death. It will stack with black blade summon.

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Does this get any boost from the Erdtree sacred seal?

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After using it for a bit I like this incantation a lot more than I thought I was going to after reading some of the comments here. The range might not match frenzied burst but it comes out a lot quicker and just like frenzied burst it will pass through at least one enemy to hit one target-locked behind it. I have 80 FTH and this hits hard for me, even without the two fingers heirloom or sacred scorpion. It also looks pretty spectacular every time it's cast. There is a lot to like here and I'm happy I duplicated Maliketh's remembrance to get this and the sword.
The only let down was using it on the Omen in the shunning grounds, I don't know what their holy damage negation is, but seeing it wreck T-Rex dogs then doing negligible damage to late game Omen makes it perfectly clear holy damage on it's own for a pure faith build isn't as viable as a faith/pyromancer build.

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I don't know which I want to cash in from the remembrance. This needing two slots makes me wary of how much use I'll get out of it and a comment saying the actual blade does no damage only the projectile is another thing against it. So should I just take the sword? but I took the sacred blade from the Elden Beast remembrance so I'm not sure I need another holy damage sword. Opinions on this are most welcome.

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This is a really cool looking incantation, but isn't it castrated by doing holy damage? Maybe not for the Albinaurics down hill from the palace approach ledge road in the video here but don't a lot of end game enemies and bosses have high holy damage negation? or am I missing something?

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Its raw damage is not anything crazy, but the fact that it temporarily lowers enemies' max health aswell as causing dot makes it excellent against tanky enemies and especially bosses, it's range isn't anything to scoff at not to mention it's just absolutely awesome looking.

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"O Death, become my blade once more!"

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Why fromsoft... why doesn't the blade have an actual hitbox.
Adulas moonblade is faster, can be chaincasted and has both blade and projectile hitbox.
It just doesn't make any sense that this spell cant hit with the blade.

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"The damage type is Holy Damage and scales with Faith. The sapping damage can be increased by Holy-Shrouding Cracked Tear and Sacred Scorpion Charm, as well as other generic attack buffs like Golden Vow, Flame Grant Me Strength, etc."

doesnt flame grant me strength only increase physical and flame damage? so this wouldnt be affected since this deals entirely holy damage, right? i dont know how to edit the wiki so someone else do it pls.

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Does it scale with Arcane via dragon communion seal?

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"Black Blade"
It's clearly red.

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Pretty fun in PVE, and is useful as a first move or a finisher against a bunch of bosses.

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Cast this, then Elden Stars, watch the weeee!

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Please give me dark damage back Daddy-zaki :(

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For all faith incantation users here’s a little tip for using this weapon. Against bosses with large health pools immediately use this weapon for the first projectile to cause the boss to lose about 10% of their health pool with the tick damage. This is very good because you maximize the damage the sword deals by immediately using it! Unless you are fighting a boss like Malenia who can heal back to full, this will put a big dent into a boss’s health bar with the simple press of a button. Outside of this utility, it’s an alright/ pretty good incantation for PvE despite the 2 slots taken away. 8/10 if you ask me.

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Absolutely baffled as to how the current state of this, Maliketh's Black Blade, and the Black Knife made it to the final release. God-slaying weapons, imbued with the power of death, all totally worthless against the final bosses all of whom are gods and demigods. It would be so easy to just add another damage type (death? dark? occult???) that only these sources deal. Hell, join it with occult weapons, which as an "elemental" upgrade feel seriously undercooked.

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So I've been playing around with the black blade incantation, and I've noticed something. When I hit the troll outside the secluded cell site of grace, it takes the first hit and the sapping damage. On the second input, it takes the hit damage, the sapping damage, but also takes a third chunk of damage. Idk what NG+ I'm in (enough to platinum the game), and this seems to happen to SOME of the enemies with higher HP. Has anyone seen this? If so, how did you get it to proc more consistently?

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Ghetsugah Tensho move

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I would like delete this thing and make it to the Malikeths Black Balde skill instead of what we have right now. With the same stats as the original weapon skill. Just imagine, it could be one of the broken weapons after Rivers Of Blood.

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cast animation is bugged after honed bolt or lightning strike combo

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Its amazing against mage cause you can hyperarmor their spell, the wave does a hefty 70 poise, wich the stun true combo into a chain casted honed bolt, and than a roll catch honed bolt. If someone roll into you to dodge it, you can cast catch flame instantly to hit the end if their roll. Really nice spell for pvp

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Try sprinting Catch Flame or Bestial Sling into Black Blade combo. Makes you hit with an invisible Black Blade in front of yourself.

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cast honed bolt twice then black blade please

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Try this combo. Bestial Sling into Honed bolt into Black Blade. Snaps your character's spine

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It melts the fire giant. Try to make the attack go through the giant

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I really wish it dealt more damage or cost a little bit less FP maybe like 20 because as it stands outside of an opening act on a meaty enemies ie mostly bosses it's quite inefficient to incorporate it as an incantation I would use frequently even as burst damage it can't quality so I'm hoping for a buff honestly.

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Best opening attack to use on tanky bosses in the game. Super fun to help people with Radagon/Elden Beast and immediately chunk their health the moment each fight starts.

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One of my favorite incantations. While it may not be the most efficient, the original hit plus the follow up does solid damage to bosses, as well as the DOT effect and the health bar reduction. Bosses like placidusax that are resistant to both fire and lightning get shredded by this spell. Looks badass too.

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From personal experience with the incantation;

PVE: Great for bosses. Will apply a 20% reduction to the bosses max health allowing you to drop a boss 20% in your first hit. The draining effect from hitting the incantation is nice but for the FP cost is not worth in my opinion as I would rather use blackflame fireball for its HP drain effect at a much more efficient FP cost. I use this as a way to quickly remove 20% of a bosses health and then continue the fight as normal.

PVP: Pretty poor. It has a long wind-up which is really obvious making the actual projectile pretty easy to dodge. The damage for the wind-up is not particularly impressive either. Fortunately it does have the benefit of having high hyper armour meaning its really hard to break you out the spell. If you are invading it might be useful if it hits someone as a surprise but in a duel you will find very few opportunities to actually hit someone with the projectile.

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Unfortunately, obsolete and useless even after the 1.04 patch. Doesn't do enough for the FP cost and windup when lightning spear/giant's flame take thee exist. Also the actual black blade AoW and black knife AoW are strictly better.

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"drill" attack....?

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Can you parry it with blasphemous claw?

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Seems like the Fire Giant is immune to the max HP reduction

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The hilarious thing about this Incant is that if you cast two spells as part of a combo, using this as your third cast will yield some...interesting results...

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debuff seems to stack with black knife skill

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debuff seems to stack with black knife skill

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This can hit the Troll by Secluded Cell from just outside the Grace door.

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I'm noticing damage buffs from both flame shrouded and holy shrouded cracked tears; separately and together. I've also noticed this with other black flame incantations. Holy flames cook many bosses.

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It would be nice if you could spin a bit more while casting, something similar to stone or qurranq.

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To whoever put the gif of what the spell actually does, thank you, that's an awesome addition that i think should happen to more pages on here.

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So this doesn't stack and phantom hit applies the max hp debuff
So for pvp this is really easy to just debuff someone without even hitting and swap to something else

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Is the blade supposed to hit or deal damage?
I feel the only damage stems from the projectile.

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Slow and short range. More show than impact. Stay away . If you are faith build use swarm of flied wherever you are considering to use this

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If you wanna cheese elden beast use this incantation

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Great projectile speed and tracking. Hits hard, casting has decent hyper armor. Late game you should have enough fp to not worry about efficiency as much. Great incantation for the toolbox.

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absolutely obliterated dragonlord placidusax on my third try with this, and i thought rotten breath was cheddar

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It’s a good spell, its just that faith users have access to two phenomenal weapons: Blasphemous Blade and Envoys Long Horn. These weapons skills (Takers Flames & Bubble Shower) absolutely destroy everything and are much more worthy of your FP usage.
Another thing is by the time you get this spell, the only bosses left in the game are holy resistant, which makes it seem less useful.

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I shouldn't need to look up a wikipedia article to know this does holy damage. They really did need to update the game to not need so much third party involvement to be able to make decisions in game.

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We need a page dedicated to the destined death flame effect. I've seen some really strange behaviors from this such as low health enemies dying after the HP reduction wears off or enemies being incapable of dying until it wears off.

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So fun fact. Based on the data shown, the 10% max health debuff does stack! But Few rules apply.

1, You can only stack Black Blade incantation's 10% max health debuff with either Maliketh's Black Blade or Black Knife's 10% max health debuff
2, You cannot stack Maliketh's Black Blade's 10% max health debuff with Black Knife's.
3, Under any circumstance the buff will not stack with itself, must be Black Blade incantation and one of your choices from above mentioned.
4, Boss which is already under 80% health, the debuff stacking will do pretty much nothing.

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I guess I dont understand the reduce max hp ability all that much - like I assume a mob/boss doesnt receive that hp back similar to us vs maliketh?

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