Carian Greatsword | Elden Ring Wiki

This is fkn cool

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So, Adula costs 22, and this costs 12, but Adula is better, right?

The damage on Adula is Sorcery Scaling x 1.33 for the slash, and Sorcery Scaling x 1.89 on the projectile, so it deals more damage than Carian Greatsword's Sorcery Scaling x 2.68, right?

Well, Adula has to go through resistances twice, but if a boss has high magic resistance, you probably shouldn't use Greatsword either, so it's a non-issue. Plus, it has frostbite, and more range.
But, if you've used Adula enough, you know that you don't always hit with both the slash and the projectile.

So on "smaller" bosses, it can be better to use Greatsword, because despite the lack of frostbite, and lesser range, it deals more damage when only hitting with the sword.

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I will never respect pure casters but players that mix up melee with these sorts of spells, you're good people

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If you cast gavel of haima right after this it comes out quite quickly. I like to bait opponents into rolling towards or behind me with CGS and then trading the punish with a gavel. Also works with Adula's just cost more fp

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This spell is insanely good in pvp if you know how to use it. It punish's TF out of people who like to constantly run away and roll spam.

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Something weird and useless(?) i noticed while playing around with the "swift" spells and Carian Greatsword.

If CG is the last spell i used, i could cast any swift spell jumping attack and follow up with CG and my character will initiate the CG from the second attack: he will start with a left-to-right swing (left-handling staff).

Works the same with staff on either left or right hand.

As far as i tested, i could perform any other action (other than sorceries / incantations) between the initial CG and the jumping-swift-spell > CG and it will not break this follow-up.

I don't think there is any other way to initiate CG from the second attack so that's something.

Not sure if there is any combat advantage in using this but i thought i will share anyway.

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This was bad before in PvP, now with 1.10 it’s unusable. Everything staggers now, good luck getting this spell off without Hyper Armor. All it needs is a bit of speed on the follow-up swing and some Hyper Armor and it would be a good tool for mages.

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Pros:
-goes through walls
-goes around corners
-stun locks enemies
-arc is longer than you think it is, catches back stepping enemies

It's my go to for those knights in leyndell capital that usually kill my squishy mage.
Taken out a couple of abductors by slashing through the walls.
Requires radagon's icon for optimal use.

Oh and did i say it slashes through the walls?

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A possible way to make it more competitive with Adula's Moonblade and other close range AoE spells could be via combining it with Carian Piercer into 1 spell - normal press unleashing Carian Greatsword and charged press unleashing Carian Piercer. They are based on similar magic greatsword already.

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at 70vdex, you can alternate between left and right staff to cast quicker

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gavel is probably more useful, but this costs almost half as much and can be chained into itself forever

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aLtHoUgH nIcHe

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It's decent, I usually use this as a crowd control aoe more than anything. It usually ends up being replaced with zamor ice storm.

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DLC idea, what if there was Red Greatsword varient of this that haves blood loss effect and the spell would be called , "Dynasty Greatsword". Just a little idea I thought of :)

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Eh, I wish this was a swift skill with adjustments to balance that.

Shame you can't sprint into this and it does a spinning GS running attack or something.

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"Can be used in conjunction with Carian Piercer to expand the moveset, by performing a thrust after the horizontal slash."

Just tested this, it doesn't chain together. The sword disappears and the piercer creates it again. It looks like the same speed as well.

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It's crazy how good this is but mages are too stupid to know how to use it properly.

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Who are you? I am Adula's Moonblade but worse

No point of using this spell since Adula's Moonblade exist, unless they buff the damage and add hyperarmor

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similar to gavel in usage, though this can be chained indefinitely

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Honestly it feels like Gavel of Haima makes this spell pointless.

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Far too slow compared to its meele counterpart at max casting speed...

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You can follow up your first attack with Adula's Moonblade, and the animation is the same as the follow up attacks for both greatsword and moonblade. Works great for people that think you're following up with a second greatsword attack and attempt to zone the attack instead of dodging.

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I just noticed that this is interchangeable with Adula's Moonblade when doing successive casts. It won't do the initial cast animation again despite changing what spell is being cast. I don't know if there is any practical use to this, though; maybe if you're casting Adula's Moonblade and don't have enough FP for another cast, you could use Carian Greatsword instead?

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FP / Damage ratio is really good on this

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slicer but BIG

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JC, this is needlessly confusing! Why would they name the AoW the exact same thing as this spell, and then have dissimilar effects? A downward strike and a horizontal slash are very different! It's bad enough having a AoW with the same name as a spell, but then there's an another form of the AoW, which potentially adds more confusion. It took me way longer than necessary to figure out that I couldn't use the AoWs for my build at all.

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AoE minor stagger decent DMG.. grandeur better DMG better stagger single target... Slicer fast in and out... I know I'll get smoke for this but slicer is actually the least useful.. being matched in DMG and speed by a sword. With the sword(or katana) having more moves and AoW... This spell works well when adulas is unnecessary. For anything you can abuse the frost and more DMG, adulas wins no brainer

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Great AOW. Easily obtainable from rogier, has good damage, range and knockdown, complementing a lot of the shortcomings of straight swords. Especially useful for bonking dragon's heads to quick stun them and deal tons of damage. Can be used to stun lock nearly all mid-size humanoid enemy that can be knocked down. A bit cheesy, but sometimes you really just don't want to deal with the same BS this game throw at you for the hundredth time.

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My only wish is that it had a dash attack as well as more forward momentum when swinging like Carian Slicer. It staggers most enemies, but the lack of forward momentum makes it had to determine whether if you're within range of an enemy or not.

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The stilted attack speed of repeated castings makes this good at stunlocking certain foes of moderate aggressiveness and bad poise, such as Knights.
— Courh the Explorer

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what do you mean

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This has the potential to be so cool, but it's so terrible because of Fromsoft's bad habit of never given sorcery any poise

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Needs some hyper armor. After all, it simulates a great sword

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Feels like this is the sorcery equivalent of jump+R2 spam as a strength user. You can basically just combo this and stun lock almost any mob. Only limit is FP and Stamina.

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Seems to be comparable to Adula's Moonblade now that Moonblade was nerfed, and it uses far less FP

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So Is Adula's Moonblade just better than this in every way? Or is there some nuance?

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Decent spell that stagggers early to mid game (late game depending on the build)

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Lmao don't bother using this.

One attack = 668 dmg on my char. 14 fp. Takes like one second to peform (with talisman for faster spell)

Carian slicer: 3 attacks dealt 800+ damage (tested on those giant head dogs in caelid)
Faster casting spell, the time you use preparing one swing, you can swing this one twice, maybe thrice
Also, -2 fp wich is considerable.

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Even with the recent reduction in FP cost there is no reason to take this over Adula’s

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Extremely satisfying to cast while on Torrent more reliable than Carian Slicer but at the cost of more fp.

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Very strong spell for crowds in tight quarters and great for mixing in PVP but gets completely outclassed by adula's moonblade later. Carian Piercer is much better than this one since you can use glintstone arc for crowd clearing early without needing to be so close. Still a solid spell to have in the early-mid game.

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Npc use this in a thrusting maneuver sometimes. Is that possible as player??

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It looks cool, but it is too weak imo

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strong, but slow and not efficient with your FP. great from horseback and against groups of enemies, though, and it passes through walls still

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Works extremely well against Walking Mausoleum, can clear a leg in one hit

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Anyone knows where to find or get the version of this that points into the air then swings downwards?
It was used by a tarnished in the first trailer and by the knight mage guy in the Academy.
I know its in the damn game but even this wiki won't show it off in its sorceries list.

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This spell is very suitable in confined areas. Goes through walls and can stun lock many small or medium sized bosses, such as black knife assassin or alabaster lord.

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Decent range with great horizontal AOE, however the damage itself is very FP inefficient relative to the Carian Slicer. This is a tool for killing mobs or for horseback casting, don't use it against bosses unless you need the reach or don't have any openings to use Carian Slicer.

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looks very cool, but its pretty garbage (common traits for 90% of sorceries)

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