Spear Talisman | Elden Ring Wiki

this + rusted anchor = big dmg

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does this stack with curved sword talisman on a spear

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Does this work with Impaling Thrust ash of war?

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Does this work with piercing fang on a katana?

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Does this work with all Pierce damage or JUST thrust attacks? For example, the lucerne does all Pierce damage but would this talisman affect the normal halberd r1 (downward slam), even tho it is not a thrust attack, but does do Pierce damage?

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does the fallingstar beast jaw get affected by this? since that weapon does exclusively pierce damage

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didnt realize how good this was until an R1 did 1700 damage to a haligree soldier

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the only talisman with the "[weapon class] talisman" naming convention that is actually good with the weapon class in question

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Does the 15% add up to 30% counterhit boost or does it get multiplied?

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This Talisman can be very strong. It does only apply on thrusting attacks while an enemy is in an attack animation. Many people think bc of the description calling it "counterattack" they mean the guardcounter but they dont.
Also it applies only on thrust attacks so the weapon is meaningless but the moveset is the important thing.

Tactic 1: Non spear weapons like Claymore and Zweihänder have a chargeable thrust attack and while the boost being procentual you get more value by using stronger weapons like the Zweihänder instead of spears. In combination with the
axe talisman(boosts charge attacks) the bonuses are stacking making the damage incredebly high. Its slow so u have to use big attack windows like if a dragon breahs fire. In humanlike battles u will surely stagger the enemy out of their attack
animation so just make sure to hit first but in their animation.

Tactic 2: Spear+shield combo. U wont stagger the enemy but u will block the arriving attack by the enemy and can still do attacks bc u can do attacks while blocking with the shield. Just wait for the attack and then poke it. Just need a lot of stamina.

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This is a terrible talisman. Most peircing moves don't even count. Peircing weapons ussually have very little poise, so your hits arn't gonna flinch them out of their attack, meaning your just trading damage. 15% just isn't worth getting smacked in the face

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unbelievably useless

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Sadly, the attacks you can make with a rapier or spear while blocking never count as counterattacks, so they don't benefit from this talisman. Same for guard counters even though they technically happen during the recovery phase

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does this work on guardian swordspear?

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This + Shard of Alexander is a must have for my Impaling Thrust Claymore

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This talisman is just too good.

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maybe a weird question but does giants hunt count as a thrust attack, if so... does this talisman affect it?

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I just realised this is just a reskin of Leo ring

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His lugged spear is said to have sliced a boulder in two

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His lugged spear is said to have sliced a boulder in two

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Does this work on zheihander crouch and charge attacks?

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I noticed while puttong this on my character that it was lowering the AR of my weapons by 1-2 points. I'm switching between equipping and unequipping it and it is indeed lowering the AR directly. 242 dropped to 241, 287 dropped to 285. Can anyone else confirm that their AR is getting lowered by this talisman, even if it's a negligible amount?

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It's unfortunate that the actual spear depicted on the talisman isn't available in the game.

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Is it worth using this with a standard clayman's harpoon? Especially when it will only boost the physical portion?

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Does this work with Siluria's woe?

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This is very good against Malenia if you use a heavier thrusting weapon (I used the Commander's Standard).
Beat her without summons on the first attempt after getting wrecked on every other playthrough.

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so exactly how are you supposed to use this talisman in PvE?
the only three ways i can come up with without trading blows and getting hit in the process is
1 using a shield and poke from behind the shield,
2 outrange their attack while yours hit,
3 using quickstep or bloodhound step around their attack and hit them during it.

the shield poke is kinda a crutch and you don't want to do that too much anyways because it lowers your damage.
outranging enemies is not always an option but it does work well for spears most of the time.
being forced to use an AoW just to get some negligible use out of the talisman seems a little much.
and since most thrust weapons don't deal that much poise damage it's not exactly like you can interrupt the enemy from hitting you.

is it something i'm missing here in regards to the PvE usability of this thing?

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Very tight timing in PvE. However, doing 1000 damage with a running R1 is pretty funny.

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Does this effect the counter attack damage of non-thrusting weapons? Like does it directly buff counter attacks, i.e. Pierce Damage weapons. I'm pretty sure things like the Rusted Anchor and Beast Jaw can get the Counterattack bonus, but I'm not sure if this talisman works on them because of how this page is worded.

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Damn you Dark Souls 2 B team for making me think this "ring" would work with elemental damage

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what is considered a counter attack, and why is it used in bow builds?

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does Eochaid's Dancing blade AoW count ?

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Pierce damage in general seem to work well with this talisman. Running the Rusted anchor with wild strikes AoW, Jumping attacks, and good timing everything gets shredded

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Does this work with the Raptor Talons? been trying to test wether or not those claws deal piercing damage with the jumping heavy attacks but I can't figure it out for the life of me.

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Does this boost the stab when you’re powerstancing dual straight swords?

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I Dont understand why they dont nix this or slam it with a item changing nerf, and instead give this kind of all-the-time bonus from a talisman to Weapons that are all around lackin effectiveness. Instead they give the literal damage buff talisman to a weapon that is already having trouble staying within balanced parameters................. Give a talisman like this instead to Regular Axe's, say, or Regular Sized Hammers, Whips even. Weapons that actually need this talisman. It would open up so many more build options.

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Does this effect piercing fang?

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nerf in pvp. boom, fixed your game

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normally crossbows are pretty crap but with this and arrow's sting you can get some ok damage out of them.

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Attack that does Pierce damage counts. Fallingstar beast jaw benefits?

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The Endure meta will ensure we see lots of people using this Talisman. Lances/Thrusting Swords are godly now.

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This is fantastic for a greatshield and spear turtle strategy in PVE. Just don't turtle in PVP. Players are smarter than regular NPC enemies, and there are plenty of ways to get around turtles.

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Addressing the questions on this comments section:
1) Piercing damage is a type of physical damage; it can be dealt by any melee weapon's thrust attack (even the piercing damage type is not stated on the weapon's in-game description) or by arrows, great arrows, and bolts.
2) A counter attack is damage dealt to a target while it is either in the frames of an attack animation or in the recovery frames for said animation; during said window, the target's piercing damage resistances will naturally be reduced by 30%.
3) This talisman reduces a target's resistance to piercing damage during a counterattack window by an additional 15%, stacking multiplicatively with the natural 30%, yielding a total decrease of 49.5% of said target's piercing damage resistance during a counterattack window.
4) This talisman only boosts piercing damage (i.e. physical damage), and therefore any elemental damage dealt by the thrusting attack or projectile will not be affected by the talisman's modifier.

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"does not enhance elemental counterattacks" 1. Why? 2. Does that mean it wont work on a bow shooting fire or lightning arrows?

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If a weapon is magic infused,the magic part of its damage during counter doesnt count?

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might as well be all attacks with how generous thrust bonus is

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Does not boost giant hunt on greatsword

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I tested it on a Troll with a Pickaxe 1H R1 and only attacking the legs.
Regular is 151 damage.
Counterattack (attack during the Trolls attack) is 196 damage, which is 29,8 % more damage.
With the Spear talisman it's 225 damage, which is a 49 % increase. So 19,2 % increase compared to the regular counterattack.

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this talisman depicts the soldier of god, rick. perhaps this is foreshadowing towards his fifth phase, where he summons spectral spears that fly towards you?

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I'm assuming this works with "Piercing Fang" and "Impaling Thrust" ashes? If you are using them with a spear it would be more beneficial to use over "Shard of Alexander"?

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Use this with pickaxe and the jump attack equipment and you can deal 2k or more damage at lvl 80 with no other buffs start on or two shooting bosses up to morgott

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Mixed reports on the merits of this talisman in PvE. On testing I found the vast majority of my activations of this talisman are on trading with an enemy or boss. It's true that humanoid enemies wielding normal weapons are much more susceptible to counterattack damage, but that doesn't discount how useful this can be for the right builds. If you go high Vigor/Endurance and slap on some heavy armor and health/damage negation talismans, your trades even with bosses will be monstrous, especially with great spears and heavy thrusting swords. Except with Malenia, obviously.

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I wonder if this talisman work w/ Frozen Needle’s R2 feint projectile.

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We can't even get the Lordsworn's Spear(speculative name) and yet it features on this talisman along with the soldier who wields it.

With this and stuff like the Troll Knight's Sword not casting Carian Phalanx as a skill, among countless other examples, Fromsoft is really rubbing it in with enemy-only equipment.

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With 2 naginatas I catch poke people and it does very good damage. Just make sure they don't have buttloads of poise, vigor, and something that can one shot you. So what I'm saying is when I'm doing this I have plenty of poise and vigor myself. All it takes is catch em normally once sometimes twice.

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Does this even work vs bosses?

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In PvE this is really good with royal knights resolve for crouch poke trading using a greatsword. Outside of trading it's nearly impossible to make use of this as PvE enemies are not vulnerable during recovery frames. Fantastic for little enemies that charge.

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Katana r2's count?

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It has very picky timing from my tests it requires you to deal damage during the exact time an enemy's attack is 'hot' or meaning dealing damage. Some weapons such as daggers or whips have very small opportunity windows and thus are very chancy and rare to counterattack against meanwhile a colossal sword has a wide attack window.

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Anybody able to test if this actually works on the Square Off R2?
It is a poke after all and chances are you actually poke someone (at least in PvE) while they are doing stuff, considering it puts most enemies into a soft stagger.

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Does this work with the Giant Hunt ash of war on the Guts Greatsword?

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Does it stack with claw talisman for thrust jump attacks?
or which one takes precedence in that case?

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I’ve tested this with multiple weapons using the description provided and it doesn’t work at all. Same damage with an attack during an enemy attack animation.

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Does it work with the poke of the Guts GS?

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It does seem to increase the damage when using the poking attack of the Greatsword despite not being showed as pierc ein the weapon information

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doesnt work for me some how

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The Counterattack bonus is applied when an enemy is hit during his attack frames.
Attack frames are created by:
- Light Attacks
- Heavy Attacks
- Jump Attacks
- Running Attacks
- Backstep Attacks
- Crouching Attacks
- Bow / Crossbow Attacks
- Casting Sorceries and Incantations
- Using Ashes of Wars
- Throwing Pots
- Throwing Knifes
- Throwing Stone

Counterattacks are only applied when using a Thrust type weapon (e.g. Rapier) or weapons capable of Thrust type attacks (e.g. Claymore poke, Greatsword crouching poking attack). Obviously having a lot of poise helps in trading damage or using a shield with a weapon that can attack while your guard is up.

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I haven't seen this being posted enough anywhere, this affects all piece weapons (spears, halberds, thrursting swords, straight swords, any weapon with a poke/stab) and this only affects PHYSICAL DAMAGE. Elemental dmg (magic, fire, lightning, holy) isn't affect by the talisman at all so only use on physical builds only.

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I wonder if it works with the zweihander or the claymore now...

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Appears to work well in PVP only

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i think it works with other weapons which are not spears. my night rider haldebard is definately doing more dmg on running r1's in pvp

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This works with the rusted anchor as it does pierce damage even though it’s a greataxe!

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This no longer affects guard counters.

Tested using pike on the first enemy you see in gatefront ruins, looking from the gatefront grace.

The damage is from guard counters using the pike.

Without spear talisman and curved sword talisman: 443

With spear talisman, but without curved sword talisman: 443

With curved sword talisman, but without the spear talisman: 531

Using both the spear talisman and curved sword talisman: 531

From these results it is clear that spear talisman has no effect on guard counters.

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Optimal for pure Physical builds, since Elemental counter-attacks are not enhanced.

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Does this work with bows like it did in DS3?

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Does this works with lightning spells

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Does anyone know if this works with spells like ice spear?

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This with impaling thrust, and a frost halberd is nutty.

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fingerprint stone shield+greatshield talisman+any trusting weapon and you can stab away and really profit from that talisman

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Arbalest+9 with normal bolts against Godrick's footsoldiers between Warmaster's Shack and Saintsbridge
Normal hit = 166
Counter hit without Spear Talisman = 216 (~130% damage)
Counter hit with Spear Talisman = 248 (~150% damage)

Just to confirm:
1. It does work on bows/crossbows
2. It seems to do closer to an extra ~20%, not ~13%

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Works on arrows!

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Works on arrows!

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Does this work with "ancient lightning spear" for the bolt spear curious

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this talisman is useless like the hundreds of items in this game

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Doesnt work on wind ups or recovery animations outside of pvp. I have no idea how ppl are utilizing this in pve, the counter window seems ridiculously specific. Whereas in pvp you take counter damage throughout your entire animation

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This seems to work with thrusting attacks even if the weapon doesn't say it does "pierce" damage. I tested to see if it works with the zweihander roll poke (zweihander is only "standard" damage type, not "standard/pierce" like the claymore). I used a +17 zwei on the Godrick knights before Margit.

No counter attack: 454 dmg.
Counter attack without spear talisman: 590 dmg.
Counter attack WITH spear talisman: 679.

Doing the math, it seems that regular counter-attacks do +30% damage, and the ring adds exactly +15% on top of the 30%.

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This seems to work with thrusting attacks even if the weapon doesn't say it does "pierce" damage. I tested to see if it works with the zweihander roll poke (zweihander is only "standard" damage type, not "standard/pierce" like the claymore). I used a +17 zwei on the Godrick knights before Margit.

No counter attack: 454 dmg.
Counter attack without spear talisman: 590 dmg.
Counter attack WITH spear talisman: 679.

Doing the math, it seems that regular counter-attacks do +30% damage, and the ring adds exactly +15% on top of the 30%.

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This seems more like a pvp talisman. If you swing at check your stats, your pierce resistance is lowered throughout the animation. But for enemies/bosses the window is so small it seems useless

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I'm confused about this one. I tried it with Dragon King's Cragblade and Vyke's War Spear and it did nothing to the guard counters (blocking with shield and hitting heavy attack immediately after). In fact, the damage was lower with the talisman compared to without it. Curved Sword Talisman on the other hand did increase the damage for all weapons. So is the Spear Talisman bugged atm? Does anyone know?

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Bonus seems to be 20% instead of 13. Tested with Halberd R1 pokes, without the talisman you get a 30% bonus, bumps up to 50% with it.

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PSA: THIS WORKS ON ALL "PIERCE" WEAPONS
Look under the weapon class in the menu(i.e. greataxe) underneath it, if it says "pierce", this talisman works with it, great examples outside of spears is the pickaxe or rusty anchor

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Does anyone know if this works after parrying a boss when they are not able to be riposted?

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This, spear dualwield and Endure skill on right hand spear. The buff lasts for 2 twin pokes, allowing multiple counter hits to land.

Trading has never been this efficient with spears. Love this Talisman.

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If anyone's curious like I was, this DOES affect damage from an attack after successfully using the Raptor of the Mists weapon art!

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So many confused people here, If a weapon has a trust attack it will apply buff. It has nothing to do with the weapon type. If a weapon says damage type thrusting/ it will have certain attack that do thrusting damage. All those attacks will benefit. (sometimes it might be tricky to tell which attack count as thrust based on my knowledge of previous games but if it looks like a "trust" type attack, it usually is).

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Does this work only with physical damage types? Will split elemental infusion decrease the potential of this talisman?

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Does this talisman increase counter damage against bosses by any means? I’m using the rusted anchor on a strength build and want to know if it works against more than just minor enemies/pvp situations

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Does this work with the any of the move a whips moveset?

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Counter attacking is when you strike an enemy when they are in an attack animation. This is usually hard to pull off without taking damage, but since you can poke your enemies behind a shield with spears and thrusting swords, you'll find a lot of opportunity to sneak some hits in.

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Ya'll wanna know something evil? Use this with the Anchor, the Anchor does piercing damage.

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